July 24th, 2003

Bug with PK Healing?

Cheap says, 'its about healing and pk'

Kaige says, 'haven't seen any commits on it yet'

Kaige says, 'but I'll remind Huginn it's rather a priority issue.'

Cheap says, 'why cant a person who is accept all heal people who may have a slightly different accept list then theres'

Kaige says, 'bug'

Cheap says, 'ohh, its a known problem'

Cheap nods solemnly.

Cheap says, 'all I needed to know'

Cheap smiles happily.

Kaige says, 'yeah, I haven't had time to do any code stuff lately, so I haven't had a chance to look further into that.. but I suspect it's something with pke and PKOK both running just like the walls thing'

Cheap nods solemnly.

Cheap says, 'thats cool, I had no idea it was a known and worked on issue'

Bug with Commands Going Wonky?

Cheap says, 'I had another thing, ohh, are there any problems with commands going in wrong, ie I typed rescue varnel tonight and it ungrouped him'

Kaige is completely boggled.

Sandra says, 'that's a weird one'

Wiz witnessed it!

Cheap says, 'yeah'

Sandra says, 'funny too'

Sandra giggles.

Cheap says, 'and I double checked and everything to make sure I did type rescue varnel and I did'

Sandra says, 'odd. New one to me'

Kaige says, 'haven't heard anything like that... check your aliases?'

Cheap says, 'but it ungrouped him and we lost xp on pirate, no biggie but I thought i'd bring it up'

Cheap says, 'it was free type'

Sandra says, 'might just be a fluke, but let us know if it happens again'

Soloing & Charm Killing Mobs?

Wiz says, 'I know you dont want people soloing everything everywhere, but how come all the areas have charm killing mobs?'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'you wanna take that one?'

Chocorua says, 'he answered it himself'

Kaige would probably just say, "guess the builders didn't want those "solo'd"

Wiz glares at nothing in particular.

Sandra says, 'it's a lesser 'cheat' for the ones that we don't want solo'd'

Wiz nods solemnly.

Cheap says, 'well, I can still take em solo, but its just harder and almost not worth it'

Kaige says, 'it's not as bad as some of them out there that just out of hand slay any charmies they see fighting them'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Sandra nods her agreement with Cheap.

Wiz nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'riskier, you say?'

Wiz says, 'like mr. english'

Wiz glares icily at Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'you should try metacomat ;)'

Cheap says, 'but your mobs still don't scare me like that group in paris'

Wiz says, 'but I was just frustrated when I tried to kill some mobs today'

Cheap shudders.

Sandra giggles.

Kaige says, 'well I think paris is supposed to be more insane'

Cheap says, 'that musician, poet and bunch'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Cheap shudders.

Sandra says, 'Bart's mobs are definately that'

Wiz chuckles politely.

Why Similar Mobs Different?

Cheap says, 'id like to know why I find certain mobs easier then others of the same level really'

Cheap says, 'should they all not be pretty much the same difficulty?'

Kaige says, 'theoretically, yes.'

Sandra says, 'yea'

Wiz says, 'well, I wouldnt want a mob with no eq being as hard as metacomat'

Cheap says, 'I find a lot of places harder for same xp'

Kaige says, 'however, not all builders are gonna give the same attention to every mob.'

Sandra says, 'but think of the 50s as 50s and 50+s'

Kaige says, 'do you note them on the bug channel so we can look at them?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Kaige says, 'yeah.. there's that too'

Cheap says, 'I was thinking of horses'

Kaige says, 'any ones in particular?'

Wiz says, 'those battle horses pack quite the kick in the crusades.'

Kaige says, 'well, they are trained for battle where a regular old riding horse wouldn't necessarily be'

Cheap says, 'the horses from tudor compared to the horses in the roman garrison in orkney'

Cheap says, 'thats just one example'

Kaige says, 'yeah. I think the ones in britain are generics and the ones in tudor aren't. Not sure off the top of my head'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Cheap says, 'barts horses in paris are insane'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Cheap says, 'horses in san fran are different also, but around same exp'

Sandra says, 'if they appear the same level and xp, toss it up on bug so that we can take a look'

Kaige says, 'but that's also one reason why we did the generic project in the first place... so one thing here in this area would give players the same expectations when they =ran across it in another area.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Cheap nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says, 'so all the builders didn't have to keep reinventing the basic critters to populate their areas'

How Many Pke Currently?

Wiz says, 'how many PKE currently? still 45 ?'

Kaige says, 'haven't checked since last saturday...'

Kaige says, 'gimme a sec'

Wiz nods solemnly.

Wiz thanks Kaige heartily.

Wiz says, 'oh, and let me see the list :)'

Wiz ducks to the ground.

Sandra giggles.

Cheap nods his agreement with Wiz.

Nelson nods his agreement with Wiz.

Sandra pats Wiz on the head.

Cheap throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Wiz gives Kaige some gold.

Wiz winks suggestively at Kaige.

Myrthorn raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Cheap says, 'im just going to make my clan sit in inns soon and kick/headbutt or warcry people as they log on'

Cheap nods to himself.

Kaige says, 'nope.. add 7 more to that... 52'

Wiz says, 'I do that'

Wiz says, 'nice'

Wiz says, '52 players'

Wiz says, 'thast a lot of players'

Kaige says, 'and 52 characters'

Cheap says, 'that is'

Wiz says, 'well, I mean 52 different people'

Wiz says, 'that's a lot of players :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with Wiz.

Kaige says, 'and tomorrow's the last day for anyone over level 35 to get pke enabled before we update...'

Nelson says, 'nooooo!'

Wiz says, 'yeah, I wont make it :)'

Wiz chuckles politely.

Cheap nods his agreement with Wiz.

How About Asst GMs?

Cheap says, 'well, I just wanted to get your thoughts on something I saw on the board upstairs, the co or assistant gm to clan thing'

Cheap says, 'giving the power to someone to induct and a couple other things'

Cheap says, 'but not full gm powers'

Nelson says, 'oh I must say I think it is a wonderful idea, the person who wrote that must be some sort of god'

Nelson nods to himself.

Kaige says, 'it's been tossed around a lot... mostly what it needs is someone with the time and ability to code it'

Cheap laughs.

Cheap pats Nelson on the head.

Wiz says to Nelson, 'or a weenie'

Nelson stomps on Wiz's toes.

Wiz sinks his teeth into Nelson's flesh.

Cheap says, 'I just thought it was a good idea myself'

Kaige says, 'it's another useful tool for clans, yup.'

Wiz says, 'induct outcast, that's pretty much it :P'

Cheap says, 'nah, outcast should be left to gm only'

Cheap says, 'induct, very useful'

Kaige says, 'we've had a few other suggestions for things like that also, but they're still on a wishlist'

Tourney with Someone Else's Char?

Nelson says, 'I have a question for sandra since I think she is the one who does most of the pk tourney stuff ummm, what does sandra think about the idea of a tourney using someone elses characters? I didnt see any imm feedback on the board..'

Sandra says, 'yea, I saw the post but I'm not too sure how i feel about it. It'd be an awful lot of work to copy th0e chars to a neutral char, etc.'

Kaige says, 'I wouldn't mind seeing it done with people who say their chars can be used,... but instead of BEING that character, you only got their stats and equipment.'

Nelson nods solemnly.

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Cheap says, 'that sounds cool'

Kaige says, 'cause I can see some REAL problems with people just being plain rude and idiotic with another char's name instead of theirs'

Cheap says, 'I like kaiges view on it better'

Wiz says, 'its all about the name'

Wiz snickers quietly to himself.

Wiz says, 'how about'

Wiz says, 'wizclone'

Vanion says, 'then would they be able to both log on simultaneously?'

Wiz says, 'cheapclone'

Wiz chuckles politely.

Kaige says to Wiz, 'and as far as having something like Wizclone or even Wiz23 that's better than just flat out logging in someone else's char'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Wiz nods his agreement with Kaige.

Nelson says, 'kaige and wiz both have good points I think...maybe run it with an overwhelming threat of gluing and slaying for people who act like dorks? :p'

Sandra says, 'isn't that how I usually run my tournies? ;)'

Wiz chuckles politely at Nelson's feeble witticism.

Nelson says, 'hehehe'

Kaige grins evilly at Sandra.. wonder what she's thinking...

Nelson just wants to be Payne.

Sandra says, 'yea it'd have to be a neutral char'

Kaige says, 'would make it really funny to have Wiz12 vs Wiz23 and see who messed up with healing using abbreviations'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Sandra giggles.

Wiz chuckles politely.

When is Next Tourney?

Cheap says, 'when is next tourney? the 5 person team one?'

Sandra sets the rules. Don't like it, she'll kill you until you do.

Cheap says, 'or is the big tourney next'

Wiz says, 'next month'

Nelson says, 'wow, are you sure you aint a grendel sandra?'

Vanion chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'hm, I think LA has some sort of tourney for august'

Wiz says, 'gangwars'

Sandra says to Nelson, 'I used to say I was the Grendel Khan'

Wiz cheers wildly!

Cheap says, 'LA's tourneys are cool, but its time to see who the champ is'

Nelson chortles with amusement.

Sandra says, 'that'll be in sept'

Cheap nods solemnly.

Cheap grins evilly.

Huginn laughs at Cheap.

Wiz chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'and I have a bag full of prizes for it'

Wiz says, 'can we see some'

Sandra shakes her head.

Wiz grumbles.

Wiz says, 'are they his strings?'

Sandra says, 'Yes'

Nelson says, 'late septemer I hope, for all the chumps who have to get settled into schools again'

Cheap laughs.

Wiz nods solemnly.

Wiz says, 'cool then'

Cheap says, 'I hit harder then he ever did my friend, trust me on that'

Cheap says, 'I fought him enough to know :p'

Huginn says to Cheap, 'actually no, you only think you do.. you hit harder than he did in the end'

Craven pokes the welcome board.

Huginn says to Cheap, 'trust me on that my friend'

Sandra says, 'Barabas used to have a ton of hit/damroll at the start. Til he kept changing eq around =P'

Vanion tips his hat gallantly.

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Cheap snickers at Huginn nastily.

Dress Wound Progress?

Wiz says, 'dont get angry, but when is this new mana drain or whatever going in, whatever you ere working on sandra'

Wiz says, 'not sure what it was called'

Sandra says, 'er I'm working on dress wound currently'

Wiz nods solemnly.

Wiz says, 'ok'

Sandra says, 'but Huginn and I have both been pretty busy so it'll be a little while until we get time to code it all'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'hopefully next week will be sane again'

Bug With Burning Roof Quest?

Nelson says, 'that burning roof quest ummm nobody ive talked to has been able to figure it out and while ill gladly presume im an idiot I wouldnt do the same for 8 other people...so is it busted or are we all just idiots?'

Kaige says, 'yeah. I've got another fix for it going in tomorrow.. and the legionaries too'

Nelson says, 'you go up and try to douse it and its like it aint on fire err'

Nelson says, 'cool'

Kaige says, 'neither of those want to clean themselves up correctly'

Kaige says, 'yeah, it's turning out to be trickier on that one in particular than it seems like it should have been'

Kaige says, 'if the roof didn't burn out on its own, my life would be easier'

Nelson says, 'heheh'

Kaige says, 'but generally it should all of those new ones I added like that should be fairly strait forward'

Kaige says, 'it's frustrating me as much, if not more than, you guys'

Nelson nods solemnly.

Dealing with Crossplay and PKOK?

Temujin says, 'my question is how do we seperate cross playing with all these pkok going on?'

Temujin says, 'back in the old days it was all clear with only one pk char'

Kaige says, 'very carefully?'

X'z chuckles politely.

X'z says, 'I remember all my pkok alts vs all of ruby's pkok alts, that was fun'

Temujin says, 'ok thats a good answer'

X'z throws her head back and cackles gleefully!

Cheap says, 'I think I can answer that question from my experience, if you susspect cross playing, sit down in the same room with a group of pkers who you consider knowledgable and discuss it'

Kaige says, 'seriously, it is more challenging... but if you find yourself taking something across characters like what was just on chat... someone's taking something way too seriously'

Kaige nods her agreement with Cheap.

Cheap says, 'I guarentee someone can tell you weather that person is doing it or not'

Sandra nods her agreement with Cheap.

Cheap says, 'pkers are notorious for knowing alts for some reason'

X'z says, 'or kill everyone'

X'z says, 'man that's all I used to do'

X'z chuckles politely.

X'z says, 'im out of touch'

Mierin says, 'I never know most peoples alts, but I do know most pkers''

Nelson nods his agreement with Cheap.

Mierin nods her agreement with Cheap.

Nelson says, 'I only know pk alts tho, so I can be alert for them alting to finish me off after I beat on them :p'

Sandra giggles.

Cheap says, 'its true, I had the same problem once, sat down with like 3 other pkers and figured it out real quick and dealt with it'

Nelson chortles with amusement.

Nelson says, 'swift deaths all around!'

Nelson says, 'followed by the comandeering of weapons'

Cheap says, 'no, at the time I rejected him and his alts'

Sandra says, 'every time I see a group of pkillers in the same room I wanna firestorm :/'

Cheap shrugs helplessly.

X'z says, 'I havent shot anyones weapon from their hand in a long time'

Temujin tickles Sandra.

Sandra can't help it!

Kaige says to X'z, 'still possible... must be your hidden karma stat'

Kaige giggles.

Cheap says, 'now Id hunt down every one of his alts and kick their heads in'

X'z nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'I set it to 0, sorry'

X'z goes ACK TTTHHHHHPPPPPTTTTT! all over Sandra - what a mess!

X'z sniffles quietly.

Sandra says, 'nobody should have more karma than me'

Cheap says, 'its funny how a couple years of experience changes your outlook on pk'

Dolor says, 'My Karma was -10000000000 until I sold my soul...'

Sandra nods her agreement with Cheap.

X'z says, 'I remember my first pk char'

Sandra says, 'mine's a mob'

Sandra giggles.

X'z says, 'those were the days'

Cheap laughs.

X'z smirks at Sandra.

Sandra says, 'i see her every day and go 'hey! Oh that's a mob''

Nelson says, 'I wanna be a mob some day...but I don't do anything worthy of mobdom cept make sick jokes'

Applying for LotP Status?

Cheap says, 'how many years do you have to be active in pk before you would even consider that person for lotp status?'

Sandra says, 'you don't have to be pk. You just have to be historical to legend'

Kaige says, 'it's not quantity, but quality of play'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says, 'she said it better'

Sandra giggles.

X'z says, 'No quality here - merely quantity :)'

X'z ducks to the ground.

Cheap nods his agreement with X'z.

Nelson nods his agreement with X'z.

X'z says, 'i've played for awhile, and I asure you nobody thinks im legendary.'

X'z says, 'just a run of the mill player'

Cheap says, 'im just curious if there was a length of time involved'

Sandra shakes her head.

Cheap says, 'but theres not, so coo'

X'z says, 'maybe if you're an instant legend :'

X'z says, ':P'

X'z says, 'that'd be cool'

Cheap laughs.

Sandra giggles.

Cheap says, 'not this cat'

Temujin nods his agreement with X'z.

X'z chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'not particularly... tho the longer you play a character the more chances you have to leave impressions on other people. =)'

X'z says, 'I play too many characters'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

X'z grumbles.

Cheap says, 'ohh, what are the chances of including some actual players in the committee on legend of the past application?'

Sandra says, 'slim, they get to do the polls'

Sandra says, 'it's ultimately up to the players'

Cheap says, 'not really'

Cheap says, 'as you have to pass an imm group first'

Sandra says, 'yea but the imm group is easy compared to the players ;)'

X'z says, 'I feel bad, Krynn played a lot when I wasnt really playing so I didnt know anything about the poll'

X'z chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'I was actually surprised he didn't make it. See? Players are tough!'

Cheap says, 'I can think of at least 3 people who have applied who got either turned down by the imms or the people who really deserved it'

Cheap says, 'but thats just personal opinion'

Mierin says, 'Krynn probably would have made ith with one of his alts'

X'z says, 'proably.'

Sandra says, 'usually, we'll turn them down if their app is poor, they've had bad history, or are too new to be legendary'

Temujin says, 'its the karma thing again, if you are below 9999999 you got rejected automatically'

Cheap nods his agreement with Temujin.

Cheap laughs.

X'z says, 'thats a high karma'

Sandra says, 'hint: I was around alot is not a good reason to apply. Nor is a code change'

X'z chuckles politely.

Temujin says, 'a code change?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'yup.'

X'z says, 'sick of playing the characer try to lop it?'

X'z nods to herself.

Temujin says, 'whats those have to do with lotp?'

Sandra says, 'if we change a spell in the cause school and see a rash of cause mages applying, guess what'll happen? ;)'

Kaige says, '"This char isn't really worth playing so thought I'd see what my chances are of getting it in lop"'

Kaige says, 'nope.. next?'

X'z says, 'I should start campaigning'

X'z nods to herself.

Sandra giggles.

Temujin says, 'hmm, i suck in pk can you lop me please?'

X'z says, 'imagine a mob named X'z'

X'z chortles with amusement.

X'z says, 'that would be the day!'

Kaige says to Temujin, 'don't you get lopped enough in pk?'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

X'z says, 'bada bing'

Temujin says, 'well the way i see it, you either gotta be a pk badass'

Sandra says, 'when I decided to apply to HoL with Lori, that was a damn tough decision =P It should be a tough choice to make. That's when you know the character is good enough'

Temujin says, 'or you heal people 247'

X'z says, 'someone who heals people 247 wont get into LOTP just cause of that'

X'z says, 'There has to be something about the character.'

Temujin nods his agreement with Kaige.

X'z says, 'something that makes t hem special'

Sandra nods her agreement with X'z.

X'z says, 'I only knew a few of the LOTP as characters and they all had something great'

Kaige says, 'pk badass that everyone respects helps... healing people 24/7 not particularly... may help with player popularity, but that's not the same thing'

X'z says, 'morphine bad ass pk, aginor awesome rper - not so great at pk *duck*, barabas, obvious'

X'z says, 'I think there's another one'

Sandra giggles.

Temujin says, 'barabas tell me about this dude, i was away the whole time'

Sandra says, 'he was just a name'

Sandra stares off into space.

Kaige says, 'I'd say "presence" is also part of it...'

Temujin says, 'how did he ever make to lotp?'

X'z says, 'nothing was a master of everything :P'

Sandra giggles.

X'z says, 'I miss nothing'

X'z frowns.

Temujin says, 'there prensence.'

Sandra says, 'Barabas was a very good pkiller. He rp'd, and won quite a few pk championships'

X'z says, 'and was a good guild master'

Kaige says, 'was a strong Gm too'

X'z nods her agreement with Kaine.

Cheap says, 'yeah, and he hit like a girly girl'

Cheap snickers softly.

Sandra giggles.

X'z chuckles politely.

Kaine smiles at X'z.

Temujin says, 'oh yeah, how bout i be a wimpy running pker 24/7, will that help?'

Huginn says to Cheap, 'I don't want to see the girls you date in that case'

Sandra giggles.

Cheap laughs at Huginn.

Cheap says, 'im married, but its all good'

Kaige says to Temujin, 'if you do it with flair and panache... could happen'

Kaige smiles at Temujin.

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says, 'look at Killer ;) He was a wimp!'

X'z says to Temujin, 'really, what I said before, that's what it is'

Huginn tickles Cheap.

X'z says, 'all of them have "something"'

Kaige nods her agreement with X'z.

Temujin says, 'hmm i should make a char named something!'

X'z says, 'every character in LOTP has something special about them'

Sandra says, 'there already is one'

X'z says, 'something never logs on'

Sandra says, 'she was Nothing's girlfriend'

Sandra nods her agreement with X'z.

Temujin is completely boggled.

Temujin says, 'well there goes nothing'

Temujin says, 'or something'

X'z says, 'I just wish i started playing a little earlier'

X'z says, 'stuffed seemed more legendary back then'

Sandra says, 'it was a different type of playerbase back then'

X'z says, 'older ?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

X'z nods solemnly.

X'z grumbles.

X'z says, 'miss so much'

Sandra says, 'there were still the jerks of the bunch though ;)'

X'z says, 'Makes it fun'

Sandra says, 'but they were still fun'

X'z chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

X'z yells, '*fondle dusk*'

X'z says to Temujin, 'as of right now, I dont think you're legendary :) If you were thinking of applying'

X'z says, 'that's my honest opinion'

X'z chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'well, if no one has any other questions, shall we call it a night?'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'ok, poof I go!'

Sandra waves happily.

X'z waves happily.

Kaige says, 'ok. see y'all next week if not sooner'

Kaige waves happily.

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