July 10th, 2003

Bug with Too Many Hyenas?

Myrella says, 'Umm did the hyenas in the forest in the savanah under go some strange breeding program? I ran inot three sperate packs of them last night with 7+ in each'

Myrella says, 'and after killing them I got 61 more on census'

Myrella smirks.

LadyAce says, 'Hey, you never know :) if something's awry with the area tho, send a report in on bug'

Sandra says, 'wowie'

Chocorua says, 'cheyla sys shes looking into it'

Myrella nods solemnly.

Myrella chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'yay'

Myrella says, 'it was a bit umm extreme'

Chocorua says, 'i'd see it as a nice thing but that just me because my morts like to kill em'

Myrella nods solemnly.

Sandra giggles.

Myrella chuckles politely.

Doreen chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'yea, enjoy it while it lasts :)'

Doreen watches people flow into africa.

Myrella says, 'but I dont want kill them :P 6xp each isnt much :p'

Chocorua says, 'well its a level thing'

Myrella nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Geber lies down on an inflatable pool lounger.

Bug with Too Many Guards?

Doreen says, 'last night, a group was killing the guards south of Transylvania, and the guards kept "leaping" over the fence..until there was a ton in the room'

Kaige says, 'yup, I think that Kheldar's marked that one nobug before.'

Chocorua nods his agreement with Kaige.

Masha thinks that sounds a lot like all the invisible jannisaries.

Doreen says, 'we had like 10 in the room at one point'

Doreen says, 'everytime you kill 1, 2 jump into the room'

Doreen says, 'sorry, my mind is slow remembering, I've slept since then'

Myrella says, 'maybe the turkish army was on the other side of the fence?'

Doreen snickers softly.

Kurgan chuckles politely at Myrella's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'it does sound a little spammy -- we'll take that as feedback :) thanks!'

Doreen giggles at Myrella.

LadyAce smiles at Doreen.

Doreen smiles at LadyAce.

Kaige nods her agreement with Doreen.

No Fun Furniture at Q&As?

Morgoth says, 'some time ago i asked about the skillag on greater summonings'

Morgoth says, 'i got told that it was under revieuw and if not being a good change reversed'

Morgoth says, 'i must say i HATE it'

Doreen says, 'I can understand needing lag, but it is way too long'

LadyAce says, 'it's the same sort of status as all other code changes -- always up for discussion after they're in'

Morgoth says, 'yeah that ya have to wait for 5 minutes or so'

Doreen says, 'that is understandable, but why so long?'

Sandra says, '10 ticks was better than what we had originally wanted to go with'

Sandra says, 'be good to your charmie!'

Chocorua says, 'i think it's a good idea actually'

LadyAce says, 'well, the idea is to give you an incentive to heal them up and such'

Masha thinks mages should only be allowed one greater summon every 24 real-time hours..

Morgoth says, 'i always try, but as i said before..'

Chocorua says, 'cuts down on the ability to chain them'

Morgoth says, 'sometimes in the heat of battle...'

LadyAce says, 'instead of treating them like pure fodder to be thrown en masse at any mob no matter how huge...'

Doreen says, 'I agree, the lag time is a good idea but not such a long one'

Sandra says, 'I don't think that there's any chance we'll be changing it any time soon'

LadyAce says, 'we try to look at things from the results we see on the ground -- does it make them unplayable, or is it just an adjustment'

Sandra thinks that creates are still doing fine with the lag time.

Myrella says, 'just get rid of lag when they get unsummoned :P'

Myrella says, 'its not fair we have to suffer after being careful to keep em alive'

CZARS thinks so too, thanks to our little friend, the poison spell

Sandra says, 'um, I hardly think that creates are suffering.'

Masha says to Sandra, 'I have to agree with you'

Sandra says, 'it's 10 minutes. And you have a rainbow of other charmies to use'

Myrella says, 'lag is annoying but hardly a big deal'

CZARS says, 'that and you got homos'

Myrella shrugs helplessly.

Morgoth says, 'hmmm well it makes them much harder to play'

Sandra says, 'because of 10 minutes of lag? ;)'

Sandra says, 'i could see someone saying that if we took away half their charmies. But because you have to wait 10 min to make ONE, doesn't seem to be difficult'

Masha says, 'It's the skill (or lack thereof) of the player that makes a create mage hard to play, not the lag.'

Morgoth says, 'the lag is just anoying thats all basicly'

Myrella says to Morgoth, 'its not a huge deal so....'

Sandra says, 'yea, it's supposed to be, sorry to say.'

Myrella shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'I think that you'll be less annoyed if you make some adaptations to avoid them dying.'

LadyAce says, 'play a bit more carefully with their hp, kinda like you do your own.'

LadyAce says, 'it does sound like folks are able to adapt to it out there.'

Kaige says, 'or have a plan for when they do die'

Morgoth says, 'hmm'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says, 'one thing to remember'

Myrella says, 'yeah sit and regen when they die :P'

Sandra says, 'if you depend on one single thing that your character does, eventually you're setting your character up for failure'

Kaige says, 'that's one option'

Kaige smiles at Myrella.

Myrella says, 'by the time lags worn off your mana is full again'

Morgoth says, 'okay i will try more'

Morgoth bows deeply.

Sandra smiles happily.

Morgoth waves happily.

LadyAce smiles at Morgoth.

Weirdness with XP Split?

Myrella says, 'Umm how exactly is xp split in groups done? I killed two mobs that give exactly the same xp with a group and we got two different amounts'

Myrella says, 'there was 2 lvl 50's and angel and a doppel'

Sandra says, 'got me there'

Myrella says, 'first kill we both got 102k as a share of 142k'

Chocorua says, 'it's a mystery'

LadyAce says, 'there's a random factor involved, I think, in the grouping bonus you get.'

Kaige says, 'each one is also random +/- some as well'

Myrella says, 'second kill we both get 53k as a share of 142k'

CZARS says, 'who landed the killing blow? :P'

LadyAce says, 'oh. well, that's something else...a few xp points is what I was thinkin'

Sandra says, 'it sounds like the charmies were included in the 2nd one and not in the first split'

Myrella says, 'in the first case I killed it , in the seocnd the other char killed it'

CZARS says, 'killing blow is the only thing that'll make that kinda difference :p'

Sandra says, 'happen sometimes, but I dunno why'

LadyAce says, 'oh, that's a good point. Did the other person have charms following?'

Myrella says, 'i want my 50k back!'

Myrella laughs.

Kurgan says, 'dont let the other person fight :P'

Kurgan ducks to the ground.

Sandra giggles.

Myrella says, 'they were the other persons charmies'

LadyAce says, 'well, that might well be the factor involved...maybe not a GOOD reason mind you -- report it on bug?'

Myrella nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says to Myrella, 'you always have such excellent questions!'

Myrella says, 'I shall'

Myrella says to LadyAce, 'yes well when i remeber to write them down :P'

Chocorua says to Myrella, 'keep track of who and when, maybe log the fights'

Myrella nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Chocorua says, 'those are soemtimes hard to reproduce'

Repeating Crashing Bugs?

CZARS says, 'well if I stumble innocently accross a bug that happens to crash the mud, whats a good time period to wait before retrying that quest/thing that crashed the mud?'

CZARS says, 'assuming I report it'

Sandra says, 'when you see that it's been fixed on the welcome board'

Chocorua nods his agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'if it's not clear from that, ASK.'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'if no one's around to ask, WAIT.'

CZARS says, 'oh in that case are the maize and cursing quests in mexica still bugged?'

CZARS wants his darn whoiseseseseseses

Kaige says, 'not that I know of... but I don't recall seeing any reports on them being broken?'

CZARS shrugs helplessly.

CZARS says, 'I crashed the mud twice doing it like 3 weeks ago and reported it, time to try again I guess'

Sandra says, 'I would advise waiting ;)'

CZARS bursts into tears.

Sandra says, 'let Kaige look into it. Especially if this is the first she's hearing of it'

Kaige says, 'oh! wait..'

CZARS scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

CZARS says, 'was my bug report sketchy or something?'

Kaige says, 'what you reported is NOT what you just said you were doing'

Kaige giggles.

Kaige says, 'but yeah.. tht should be fixed now'

CZARS cheers wildly!

Kaige says, 'as of 6/23 it was fixed'

CZARS says, 'I'm gonna try that quest in the middle of KZ saturday'

Myrella says to CZARS, 'corn thief!'

CZARS says, 'ultimate bug test!'

CZARS snickers softly.

CZARS bows before Myrella.

CZARS says, 'myrella can go before me'

Slay Rooms without All Caps?

Masha says, 'I wanted to know why some slay rooms don't have their names in all caps?'

Sandra says, 'it's not really required that they do. Some have warnings in the previous rooms. And those that aren't dt-like will have a way to get your stuff back'

Chocorua says, 'and all the slay rooms i know of without all caps are avoidable in some way'

Sandra says, 'er lemme rephrase'

Kaige says, 'pretty much only the unavoidable ones are in uncaps... if it wasn't in caps,.... you're doing something wrong'

Sandra says, 'those that are dt-like WILL have them in caps :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Masha says, 'Just wanted to know. Managed somehow to wander into the one in Lima during the murdered girl quest, and freaked out because I thought I dt'd'

Masha scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Myrella chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

CZARS says, 'the falling one?'

Masha nods her agreement with CZARS.

Sandra says, 'sometimes we put them in all caps just to scare people ;)'

CZARS likes simulated gravity

CZARS drools contentedly.

Myrella says, 'narrow rock bridge'

Kaige says, 'I even added better detail and descriptions to that one after it was brought up here last week.'

Masha says, 'I was about ready to cry on channels about losing all my coupons and gear'

Easier To Trans With Charmies?

CZARS says, 'ok in reference to your newfound respect for the durability of charmies'

CZARS says, 'will this mean that transing charmies will become easier in the future?'

Chocorua looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'I think that Kaige fixed the problem with the indust trans problem. I don't know of any others?'

CZARS says, 'assume I dont like typing a bazillion lines of text to trans one extra charmy'

CZARS says, 'couldnt it just be automatic, since they're now harder to get for creates'

Sandra says, 'nah they still gotta go through the same thing you do to get where they need to go'

CZARS says, 'just a suggestion, I mean a create army is expensive and dragging 3-4 charmies through a trans can be hair-pulling'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra nods her agreement with CZARS.

Myrella says, 'try and use Egil to trans charmies :P'

Myrella rolls her eyes heavenward.

Sandra giggles.

Kaige says, 'maybe you need to explore the era you're in more fully?'

Kaige ducks to the ground.

CZARS says, 'it doesnt make it easier in most cases'

CZARS says, 'generally it just makes it more expensive'

CZARS says, 'or even more aggravating'

Chocorua says, 'having charmies really should be more expensive'

Myrella says, 'why do you need to trans charmies anyway?'

Myrella shrugs helplessly.

Chocorua says, 'yer keeping an army around'

Kaige says, 'oh I didn't say it'd make transing easier by exploring.. but if you're there and don't wanna type all that in to trans... might as well go kill something, right?'

CZARS says, 'killing something is one line, two at best'

CZARS attempts to prod Sandra but Sandra isn't about to go anywhere.

Bug with Doppelgangers?

Myrella says, 'why when doppels die do they flip between names and descrips?'

Kaige says, 'no clue? hadn't noticed that they did.'

Sandra says, 'yea I never noticed. Hehe'

LadyAce says, 'I thought it was based on what you were -- when you create them, they match you'

Myrella says, 'well I make a doppel with my name and when it dies the corpse has my descrip not my name'

LadyAce says, 'you can order them to toggle it and they will'

Myrella looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says to Myrella, 'have you bugged that? I don't recall seeing it go by'

LadyAce says, 'oh, you mean after death. Thought you meant the next one after a death.'

Myrella says, 'I'll bug it then'

Kaige thanks Myrella heartily.

How is Steal Broken?

CZARS says, 'heh I got a question about steal, related to fixing it but not about fixing it'

CZARS says, 'so if steal isnt fixed yet, how did drakkon successfully steal from me?'

LadyAce says, '"fixed" is meaning "making it work cooler than it does"'

LadyAce says, 'it's an ongoing topic, where people say they wish it was better and we say yea, we know, we'll work on it for sure.'

CZARS shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'because that's not how "broken" is meant... mostly what Ruby and them were referring to was they could no longer steal poultices from a druid to use on themselves.'

CZARS says, 'I'm still ticked I cant drop poults :P'

Masha nods her agreement with CZARS.

Quaffing Easier than Casting?

CZARS says, 'why are people who cant brew allowed to use vials with no skill lag or less skill lag for the same effects that mages waste up to 5 practices for?'

CZARS says, 'I mean it bugs me because inherently mages have tons of free rent, and it's cheaper for most mages to carry clear vials rather than cast a cure blind spell'

CZARS blinks.

CZARS says, 'did I just ask a stupid question?'

LadyAce says, 'no, I think that's the sound of 100 minds churning.'

LadyAce says, 'stop making sense!'

CZARS says, 'so sarcasm aside is that a good point or a bad point?'

LadyAce says, 'I wasn't really being sarcastic....'

Chocorua says, 'i am not sure i understand the problem'

Kaige says, 'not really... on one hand how long does it really take to upend a vial and swallow... on the other... the free rent vs skill lag to have instant access to a spell....'

CZARS laughs.

CZARS says, 'my mage has 9k free rent with nothing on him'

CZARS says, 'a vial is 500'

CZARS says, 'just cleear and bubbly vials bug me that way'

Kaige says, 'i dunno.. I don't have a clear cut answer off the top of my head for that one...'

CZARS says, 'its by far easier to carry those vials than cast those spells'

CZARS says, 'just a thought, you can go ask masha now :P'

Chocorua says, 'easier to carry so it should cost'

CZARS blinks.

Sandra says, 'potions used to rent for double that. We dropped the rent due to complaints by a number of people that weren't able to rent them'

CZARS says, 'rent isnt the issue as much as the skill lag'

LadyAce says, 'maybe they should just cost mages extra! *kidding*'

Kaige says, 'and when affects save over rent.. more people are gonna want them handy'

Sandra says, 'I think there's a 1 round lag isn't there?'

Sandra says, 'I forget to pay attention'

CZARS says, 'better than the two rounds a 2c or 3c mage pays for the spell'

CZARS says, 'and a 3c mage has how much free rent to blow on vials?'

CZARS says, 'thats the gist of my arguement'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says, 'it depends on the mage really. I have some with tons, and others with like 2k free'

Sandra says, 'it's no different than a fighter lugging a bunch of them'

CZARS says, 'assuming you're not some rainbow strat dex mage with a ton of +stat eq :P'

Sandra says, 'rainbow strat?'

Masha peers around intently.

CZARS says, 'just look at sarevoks pfile'

CZARS says, 'that build still makes me laugh'

Sandra says, 'I don't wanna look at his pfile :)'

Sandra says, 'I've got a mage of every flavour. I just don't get the rainbow thing'

CZARS says, 'think of a 90 strength 3c mage with like 60 dex 75 mind and straggling 40 con, thats a rainbow strat mage'

CZARS says, 'bah I'm getting off topic'

Sandra says, 'ah'

CZARS says, 'anyway you said you have mages with 2k free rent? bottom line is most 2c and 3c mages have free rent for at least a few vials, and them having less/no skill lag and the same effects as 2 round skill lag spells is annoying :P'

Sandra says, 'is it annoying when fighters do it?'

LadyAce says, 'it sounds like a good topic for us to think about some more, thank you.'

LadyAce smiles at CZARS.

Sandra says, 'nah I was just asking a question :) But I'm sure we'll toss the topic around some'

Turnaround Time on Item Ideas?

Masha says, 'I just wanted to know if there was going to be a heavy (17kg), 2-handed, no backstab dex weapon (i.e. a spear, lance, etc) was going to be added to crusades yet?'

Masha remembered IDEA'ing it, never heard anything on it.

LadyAce says, 'Hm...I think it's a cool idea. But I'm all out of space for new stuff in Crusades, and I don't want to crack open a new allotment until I have a bit more to put in it'

Masha nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'and for having enough to make it worth a whole new file ... well... Klein is my priority right now'

LadyAce says, 'but I agree it's a waycool idea'

Masha says to LadyAce, 'Well, I can always come up with more ideas...'

Sandra says, 'ideas rule. Toss 'em in'

LadyAce says, 'ideas never hurt. For anything. <subliminal>prize machine prize machine prize machine</subliminal>'

Sandra giggles at LadyAce.

Why Small Limit on Charmies?

Nexela says, 'why the itty bitty tiny limit on charmies'

Sandra says, 'we hate mages and want you all to suffer'

LadyAce says, 'oh, I think you missed a topic :)'

Nexela hasnt played a create in a while

Nexela nods his agreement with Sandra.

Memories claps for Sandra approvingly.

Sandra giggles.

Nexela says to Sandra, 'Truthfully I think it was your idea'

Sandra says, 'um, it was ;)'

Sandra giggles.

Nexela throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Nexela says, 'same thing with no shoot charms :P'

Sandra says, 'well, partially'

Nexela says, 'I just wish I could have like 25 max :P'

Sandra says, 'yea the noshoot thing was mine, and the lag. woo'

Nexela says, 'then I would be happy'

Sandra doesn't really hate mages. But rumours are rumours.

Nexela says to Sandra, 'you hate em!'

Memories says to Sandra, 'some people think all your ideas suck'

Memories ducks to the ground.

Sandra giggles.

How Much Harassment Before Imms?

Masha says, 'What is the level of how much harrassment a player can take before the Imms get involved, outside of gagchannel and gagging people?'

Sandra says, 'if you've told them to stop, gagged them, and they persist, it's imm time'

Masha nods her agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'I think if it's a pattern, if you ask them to stop and don't provoke the person, and use the tools that are available to you to stop them without imm help, it's time to talk to the imms'

Masha says to Sandra, 'wanted to ask before it seemed like just whining on my part, since I know you guys don't particularly care to deal with me.'

LadyAce says, 'I think if you have a complaint, you should definitely make it. Everyone has access to justice here.'

Sandra says, 'oh it doesn't matter to me :) I don't like harrassment, none of us do. If you'v exhausted your options, definately go to an imm'

Masha nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'we're pretty mean when it comes to that stuff.'

Masha says, 'Unfortunately, the last time I made a complaint, I ended up with a warning for making a false complaint involving a player. Just thought I'd ask first.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Masha.

Bug with Redeem List?

CZARS says, 'I cant see the redeem list on this char, but if its still missing what was option 1a and why was it removed?'

Nexela has his help redeem

Kaige says, 'it's redeeming out of pke'

Kaige says, 'it only shows up for pke chars'

Sandra says, 'yea if you aren't pk you don't see it'

CZARS says, 'ooohhhh'

Kaige thinks it should probably be at the BOTTOM of the list, so things stay nice and neat and in order

Kaige says, 'but that's cosmetic'

New Area Progress?

Memories says, 'when will the hell be installed again?'

Memories ducks to the ground.

Kaige says, 'when it's done'

Memories cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

LadyAce says, 'ooh, I was going to say that'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'but that's just a rough estimate'

Memories says, 'good enough for me'

Memories beams delightedly.

Kaige says, 'yeah.. it'll probably be closer to "after it's done"'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'we try to keep folks up to date on where progress is being committed to the central repository.'

Memories nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'there's generally not a status bar on people's brains that fills up % by % :)'

LadyAce says, 'Time remaining: indeterminate :)'

Memories nods solemnly.

What's My Chance of Imming?

Masha says, 'Just a silly question: what are my odds of becoming an Imm?'

Masha cowers in fear!

LadyAce says, 'we look at a lot of different factors -- proposal, reputation, whether or not we think we can work with the person....'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'best to ask that in private of the head of the department you want to get into'

Masha thinks the odds must be very, very abyssmal for her.

LadyAce says, 'it's hard to give odds particularly, because the proposal plays a big part'

LadyAce says, 'yea, anything personal you want answered there is going to be a dept head type thing'

Masha says, 'I was just asking it in general. If anything, I'd ask to be an admin imm'

Masha grins evilly at Chocorua.. wonder what she's thinking...

Chocorua says to Masha, 'i'd ask me in private .. i don't really like to discuss that stuff in public'

Masha facepalms.

Masha says to Chocorua, 'I was joking. I think I know the odds already'

Memories is completely boggled.

Chocorua says to Masha, 'yeah i'd guess you'd be right too'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'I think that I'd have better luck being elected interim, christian ayatollah for Iraq than being an admin imm, right?'

Chocorua nods his agreement with Masha.

Masha gets ready to buy a plane-ticket to Iraq.

Chocorua says to Masha, 'slightly better odds than that'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'Um.. me going an entire month without making a scene. That's better odds, right?'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'not worth discussing here .. heh'

Masha sticks her tongue out at Chocorua. =P

Shooting through Walls?

CZARS says, 'regarding create mage walls'

CZARS says, 'is it possible to shoot through them in PK?'

CZARS says, 'I cant find any conclusive answers, but i was just kinda thinking, how can you shoot through a wall if you can get over the wall?'

Sandra says, 'I don't know about the wall thing'

Kaige says, 'there's some bug with create walls currently because we have both pke and PKOK running.. but I haven't had time to untangle it and figur out just where the problem is'

CZARS says, 'its' pkok too?'

CZARS says, 'testing time!'

CZARS throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Huginn says, 'what's the issue?'

Sandra says, 'shooting thru walls in pk'

Kaige says, 'I dunno.. that's the first I've heard about shoot and walls, I just know there's one around the PKE/PKOK issue.'

CZARS says, 'create walls and shooting'

CZARS says, 'its not a bug Ive seen its just a thought I had that I dont think has been covered'

CZARS says, 'I'll go harass a create mage on the mud to try it with me sometime'

Sandra says, 'we're gonna look into the wall thing'

Do Imms Hate Anti-Voiders?

CZARS says, 'hes anti-voiding, kill kurgan!'

CZARS says, 'do imms hate anti-voiders?'

CZARS pets Kurgan lovingly.

Sandra says, 'only spammy ones'

LadyAce says, 'didn't we talk about this like, on chat the other day?'

CZARS says, 'kurgans spamming q en eh, hurt him?'

CZARS says, 'glue! glue! glue!'

Memories nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'it's a waste of bandwidth we can't afford right now.'

CZARS suddenly is hurled to the ground in a puddle of glue by Chocorua.

Masha rolls around on the ground with laughter.

LadyAce says, 'the problem's with people who are afk, takin up bandwidth, spamming people when they wake up, etc etc. Newbies walking past hordes of afk players and feeling ignored is never nice either.'

Removing Posttitles?

CZARS says, 'undoing posttitles--is it doable?'

LadyAce says, 'yes.'

Sandra says, 'some, yes'

Sandra says, 'most, actually'

CZARS says, 'good'

Memories says, 'undo or get another one?'

Kaige says, 'some will naturally expire on their own if you don't renew them too'

CZARS needs to find dragon slayer out and make boatloads of money

Masha says, 'After all, wasn't the premise of post-titles basically an IC thing? You do a great, or infamous, deed, and it sticks with you for a while?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Masha.

Masha says to Sandra, 'See, I pay attention to the boards, q&a's, and stuffs'

Masha cheers for herself since no one else has.

Sandra giggles.

Memories bows deeply.

LadyAce says, 'yea, that's definitely the idea, but it's also understandable that people don't want to all walk around with the same "reputation" just because of a quest, when they worked so much on their RP as a whole'

LadyAce says, 'so there's a balance to be struck'

Make it Easier to Change Align?

Galahad says, 'Make more align quests'

Galahad says, 'It is really hard to change align especially to good'

Galahad says, 'because you gave the pardoner 5K so everyone kills him'

Sandra says, 'there are actually 4 ways to go 'good' aligned currently'

Galahad says, 'and the 1000 align quest is only doable once'

Sandra says, 'counting that one'

Masha says, 'And getting good align is hard?'

Lorenzo says to Galahad, 'so kill bad men'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'counting the really old fashioned one too?'

CZARS says, 'sandra debated nobody really answered :-/'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Masha cheers for Lorenzo - huzzah!

Galahad says to Lorenzo, 'You don't know how long it takes to kill bad men.'

CZARS just casts aurasight and firestorms churches full of good align people to change align

Kaige says, 'depends on the men, really'

Kaige giggles.

CZARS snickers softly.

Lorenzo says to Galahad, 'sure I do. I play.'

Masha nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

Masha says, 'Same here'

Lorenzo says, 'I'm not convinced it's meant to be, or should be, snappy easy'

Masha says to Lorenzo, 'I have to agree with you on that one'

Sandra says, 'I think one should have to work for it, yea. Maybe we'll redo what we have for align quests to make them a little more work(some day)'

Bugs with PK and Healing?

Galahad says, 'First of all, if you try to attack a person accepting you (but out of range) it says they have to be PKenabled... can you make it say they're out of your range?'

Kaige says, 'on the list'

Sandra says, 'i think that's because of the pke/pkok things being together'

Galahad says, 'Ok another thing... Make me a REALLY detailed picture of how one can heal someone with the new PKE'

Kaige says, 'I looked at it, but think that was it'

Galahad says, 'because I am soooo lost and the 10 tick thing is screwed up'

Sandra says, 'healing is a mess atm with pke :/'

Sandra says, 'I *think* it works if both parties have no accepts on their list. But I haven't had enough time to test it out'

Galahad says, 'If 10 ticks have passed can I cast the empathy spell on anyone?'

Sandra says, 'you should be able to'

Galahad says, 'and finally why do so many things reset the timer'

Galahad says, 'like inspire'

Galahad says, 'when NOT fighting'

Galahad says, 'just in a room with a PK person'

Galahad says, 'steal resets it as well'

Sandra says, 'because they're all fight-type acts. While steal isn't a fight skill perse, it's still doign something against another char'

Sandra says, 'if that makes sense'

Galahad says to Sandra, 'It used to be a fight skill, just to point out'

Kaige says, 'considered aggressive actions'

Sandra says, 'steal?'

Galahad says, 'But Inspiring in a room with another person accepting even to make them rage on a MOB shouldn't reset the timer'

Sandra says, 'steal was never a fight skill. While it was used as a tactic quite often'

Galahad says to Sandra, 'Exactly, it was a very good, now you can't even steal anything usefull'

Sandra was part of the boat-stealing pkill age.

Galahad says to Sandra, 'So its normal for the inspire thing?'

Rusalka giggles at Sandra.

Sandra says, 'yea, I believe so'

Unarmed Combat?

Masha says, 'Will there ever be a point that we have a 'punching' weapon to make unarmed combat characters a viable option? Or are we going to have to stick with strings until skilltrees?'

Masha had an idea for a monk character, but didn't want to get too wrapped up without asking the question.

Sandra says to Masha, 'strings ;)'

Sandra won't say the other S word

Masha says, 'I think I'm going to idea that'

Galahad says, 'I have a back-up question for mashas'

Sandra nods her agreement with Masha.

Galahad says, 'Ok, we often see mobs that are unarmed pound for like a rip or something'

Galahad says, 'It would be absurd to ask that a player do such damage'

Masha says to Sandra, 'I've played waaay too much Diablo 2 and played the assassin character, as you can tell'

Chocorua says, 'mobs cheat'

Sandra giggles at Masha.

CZARS says, 'tiger strike dragon flight!'

Sandra says, 'it could be a sec attack type thing'

CZARS ducks to the ground.

Galahad says, 'But What I do wonder is if a person is fully eqed it would be logical that a lvl 50 could do a BIT more than scarcely hit, maybe hit extremely hard or something'

Lorenzo says, 'I think it's useful not to consider such mobs totally empty-handed -- just imagine they're using something that smashes hard. I don't really expect everyone to be fully clothed, either, but I imagine that they are.'

Chocorua nods his agreement with Lorenzo.

Galahad rolls his eyes heavenward.

Masha has been hit pretty hard by those half-naked indian braves in longhouse before...

Galahad says, 'YOu answered a question that wasn't asked'

Lorenzo says, 'why suppose that they demolish you with no weapon, any more than you suppose that they're walking around town fightnig people naked?'

Chocorua says, 'and equipping EVERY mobs with their weapon would be rough on memory'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Chocorua.

Galahad says, 'My question was not that.'

Masha says, 'Not like we have that amount of bandwidth to support it either, I bet'

Galahad says, 'My question was, let fully eqed people, like me who aren't wearing their weapon'

LadyAce says, 'it's a way to control damage done, more precisely than weapons sometimes, and avoids creating supergreat weapons that players then can't get'

Galahad says, 'Hit a little harder... like extremely hard as a max'

Galahad says, 'Did any of you read my question?'

CZARS says, 'or both?'

LadyAce says, 'unfortunately that sort of thing isn't supported in the current code. There are many ideas floating around for non-weaponed fighting, but nothing for the immediate future.'

Lorenzo says to Galahad, 'I think the question I answered was somewhat implied by your actual question. they're certainly related topics.'

Masha nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Masha says, 'Strings for me, then.'

Galahad says, 'I just mean if you have 30 dam rating you have to be able to hit more than scarcely'

Lorenzo says, 'but apologies if I totally misunderstood'

Galahad says to Lorenzo, 'I forgive you.'

Kaige says to Galahad, 'your max damage is going to be increased over any other player's non-wielding damage by your hitroll and damroll... if you want to do that.. focus there'

Galahad says to Kaige, 'But you still can't do over like 5 hp without a weapon.'

LadyAce says, 'to make it an alternative on the order that you're asking, though, is where my whole thing about code and futures comes in :/'

Kaige says, 'yes, you can. if you have hitroll and damroll to do it.'

Galahad says, 'My point is just raise is slightly by like 10 hp'

Galahad says, 'Not make it a new skill'

Chocorua says, 'damage output is currently balanced by weapons'

Chocorua says, 'the code isn't currently setup to support another basic damage output type...'

LadyAce says, 'alrighty. I think this is the end of the session :)'

LadyAce says, 'thank you for coming everyone.'

Siachet waves happily.

Kaige waves happily.

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Sustained breath - Why does it last so long? and going for realism, why can one talk when 'holding their breath'? Xena's comment in last Q&A saying dispel vial, well what if i dont want to remove all my preps at the same time?

Sustained breath, both skill and spell are on our list to look at and change so that they work independently. With the skill more like holding you breath and would be released when you surface and the spell being more that you are actually breathing the water itself. There is also a long-standing desire to make underwater feel much more different than above water. Unfortunately, what we don't have is an projected time period for making those changes.

o Does the sustained breath skill give same immune as the spell?

The only current difference between the two is how the duration is calculated.

o Allow one to wear a light when their hands are full.

Not all lights are in the HELD slot position.

o A 'tame' skill, so you could train animals to fight with or for you, and maybe I could pick up a little mouse, mice are neat!

There is a tame skill on our list, but again, no set time for implementation. Picking up mobiles is also something that will probably be very unlikely with the way our code is structured.

o In the Globe Theatre, can we have a special event, like one of Shakespeare's plays, go on say, once a month, and it cycle through all the different plays. I'll be more than willing to help edit it down or even write it up for you...

There are at least three different plays in some sort of progress by various builders. One of them is nearly done, but not quite ready yet. Rusalka is in charge of the coordinating for this project.

o Not sure if this is a bug or not but when you type READ <object> it will act as though you typed LOOK <object>.

Yup, items that aren't notes, or possibly even items, will fall through to the LOOK command so that you get the infomation you're looking for on items and extra descriptions of things like signs, posters, and the like. Because of this, you can also "read" people.

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