May 1st, 2003

Iron Will: When?

Alashar says, 'is ironwill this week or next?'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'next'

Alashar says, 'or later still'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'I believe'

Kaige says, 'not this. next at the earliest'

Alashar says, 'do we get any hint as to the req on it?'

Sandra says, 'greater than 1!'

Sandra beams delightedly.

LadyAce giggles at Sandra.

Alashar says, 'you told us 5 before it went in for the skills'

Ruby rolls his eyes heavenward.

Alashar says, 'throw us a bone! Please :('

Sandra says, '5 is the cutoff for the damroll penalty'

Ruby says, 'yeh hows a guy to make a eq list without knowing what the reqs are!'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'wait & experiment?'

LadyAce pets Ruby lovingly.

Alashar says, 'hmm...I was under the impression that was the req for the skills too'

Myrella chuckles politely.

Kaige sighs loudly.

Sandra shakes her head.

Sandra says, 'it's higher than 5'

Alashar says, 'experimenting is a pain to do when you're already high rent and dropping stuff can get lost :P'

LadyAce says, 'we don't generally tell people reqs unless we can't avoid it.'

LadyAce says, 'so badgering us for a hint isn't going to get ya too far :P'

Alashar says, 'no fair, you guys get to know it'

Alashar frowns.

Alashar says, 'your characters will be all ready for it!'

Ruby says, 'ow ow does it's special things go off more if you have more spir than the min req?'

Sandra says, 'yea, but I usually forget the next day'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'yes'

Ruby nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'no, we're not allowed to go fixing our chars in advance for a change like that'

Ruby says, 'yay for battle surgeons!'

Alashar says, 'who would know :P'

Huginn says to LadyAce, 'and who has time anyway'

Sandra says, 'really, that's alot of chars'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says, 'for me, anyway'

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'well, it's against the rules. I think people would notice, anyway, if all of a sudden 50 imm alts were super spiffed up :P'

Alashar says, 'I'm not changing all of them'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Alashar says, 'I seriously doubt ALL fighters will go iron will'

Alashar says, 'unless forced'

Huginn says, 'true'

Ruby says, 'only 1 of my chars is going to go iron will'

Huginn says, 'some will pick it, others won't'

Ruby says, 'and thats just as a test'

Alashar nods his agreement with Ruby.

Sandra says, 'it's just like the other new skills. It's not a necessity, but it's a nice boost if they want it'

Alashar says, 'I'm going to try with this character, but I don't have much hope :P'

New Skill Discussion

Ruby says to Sandra, 'btw you like wrestling?'

Sandra says, 'wrestling is evil'

Ruby says to Sandra, 'your more nuts than i thought!'

Alashar laughs.

LaughingEyes says, 'I can't get the silly wrestler to teach me wrestling'

Alashar says, 'I watched him wrestle like 10 times and it did a special once maybe'

LaughingEyes wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Sandra says, 'have you gotten the crit yet?'

Ruby shakes his head.

Ruby says to Sandra, 'I'v done it over 100 times and only stunned once'

Ruby says, 'set to resting twice'

LadyAce points at Myrella.

Sandra says, 'you must suck! ;)'

Ruby says, 'unless it's based on mind/spir it sucks!'

Alashar says, 'the topple crit is awesome'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'your stats must suck'

Alashar says, 'and topple rocks'

Alashar says, 'against snipers anyway :)'

Ruby says, 'wrestling must be dex is the only thing i can come up with'

Ruby says, 'yeh topple is sweet!'

Myrella says, 'my comment is on the new fight skills as well, I've used suckerpunch maybe 60 times with my fighter and haven't got a critical yet'

Myrella says, 'are they still under review and maybe be chaged still?'

Alashar didn't know suckerpunch had a crit.

Myrella says, '0 for 60 on a critical success is just lame'

Sandra says, 'oh yea they're still under review'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'stuns i think'

Sandra says, 'disorients'

Alashar says, 'does blindside have a crit?'

Sandra says, 'yes'

Ruby says, 'oh I wouldn't know, it NEVER happens'

Alashar laughs.

Myrella nods her agreement with Ruby.

Ahania joins Myrella's group.

Alashar says, 'I use blindside, its special goes off occasionally'

Sandra will look at it.

Myrella thanks Sandra heartily.

LadyAce says, 'great :)'

Alashar says, 'figure if I want to disorient though I'll just elbow'

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce smiles at Sandra.

Ruby says, 'suckerpunch and wrestling must be based huge off dex. and my char that uses them has 80 dex'

Myrella says, 'well my alt that uses it has 100 str and 85 dex atm'

Myrella says, 'i hit lots but thats about it'

Ruby says, 'you should just tell us what they are based on and make it easy on yourself! Then we wont complain that they suck anymore'

Huginn laughs at Ruby.

Sandra says, 'try out different things'

Huginn says, 'you'll always complain'

Huginn says, 'its your nature'

Sandra says, 'get a char with 95str/con/dex and see how it works ;)'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'not if i para every backstab'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'you'll complain its too easy then'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'have you EVER seen me say that before'

Ruby ducks to the ground.

Alashar says, 'hehe, birgitte para'd every bs'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'don't tell them they will brake snipers more!'

LadyAce says, 'you complain if it's too easy for the other fellow :)'

Alashar begins to twitch nervously.

Alashar says, 'true enough, I won't tell'

Bug with Autorush?

Alashar says, 'my sniper has seen a strange bug lately, was curious if there was a reason behind it or what, because we can't figure it out.;say sometimes when I shoot someone from an adjacent room, it SAYS they rush, they THINK they rush, but they don't actually rush'

Ruby says, 'anyway rush has been failing every now and then'

Alashar says, 'not sure why'

Kaige says, 'seen some reports of it.. so it's on the list to be investigatedf'

Alashar says, 'to be honest I'm happy...nothing is 100% in this game, why should autorush be, but it is strange'

LadyAce thanks Kaige heartily.

LadyAce smiles at Alashar.

Ruby says to Alashar, 'firestorm is 100%'

Kaige says, 'but yes, if it's going to fail, it should be explaining why...'

Ruby grumbles.

Alashar pouts.

Optimal Spirit for Iron Will?

LaughingEyes says, 'I was wondering about the spirit for iron will, will it have an optimum level, or the higher you go with spirit the better?'

LaughingEyes says, 'if that makes sense'

LaughingEyes says, 'I mean do you reach a point where you are just wasting stst points'

Myrella says, 'yes at 101'

Myrella laughs at her own folly.

Alashar says, 'knowing the answer to that, I'd like to add to that another question. Is the increase "line" on a graph say a straight line up, or is there an optimal point with diminishing rewards after you pass it?'

Alashar says, 'silent imms :p'

LadyAce says, 'Sandra, Huginn, do you want to answer that?'

Ruby says, 'we stumped them!'

LaughingEyes says, 'I know it increases frequency, but does that work indefinitely to 100'

Sandra says, 'I'm gonna go with the 'you'll have to test it out''

LaughingEyes says, 'thats what I mean'

LadyAce doesn't know the answer nor whether or not it's ok to give it out.

Alashar says, 'thast not possible'

Huginn says, 'I'll go with, more is better as with most things.. but obviously if you spend it in one area, its not there for another'

LaughingEyes nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'I'm asking is 99-100 spir the same gain as 31-32'

Sandra says, 'no'

Huginn says, 'nope'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Sandra smiles happily.

Alashar says, 'diminishing returns...'

LadyAce points at Ruby.

Strage Strings & Guns Exploding?

Ruby says, 'i know i knew this at one time but...'

Ruby says, 'when a strung gun blows up do you keep the string or does it poof?'

Sandra says, 'it should restring to storage'

Alashar says, 'you keep it'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Alashar says, 'same with timed items'

Ruby says, 'k was just wondering. I actualy saw a gun blow up today'

Ruby says, '1st time in about 3 years'

Sandra giggles.

Skilltrees?

Lucian says, 'Righto. I'll just go ahead and say what the subject of this question will be so that everyone can get their giggling and laughing out of the way: skill trees'

Sandra says, 'never heard of it'

Lucian chuckles politely.

Lucian says, 'Me neither'

Lucian says, 'Anyhoo'

Ruby pokes a skill tree myth.

Huginn steals Ruby's myth and beats him with it.

Alashar nods solemnly.

Ahania blinks.

Sandra giggles.

LaughingEyes says, 'Skill trees? Wasn't that the tree Eve ate from?'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Lucian says, 'My question(s) are thus: it seems to me that skill trees would have been a fairly efficient answer to the balance woes the mud faced (is facing) that led to the new skills and changes in character types and whatnot'

Kaige says, 'yes and no.'

LaughingEyes giggles.

Huginn says, 'that's not a question'

Lucian says, 'So...are they really a myth. And if they are...why were they abandoned.'

Huginn says, 'there we go'

Sandra says, 'they're real, they were abandoned because they're a bitch!'

Ruby says, 'of corse they are really a myth'

Kaige says, 'time, too many cooks in the kitchen... ummm...'

Huginn nods his agreement with Kaige.

Lucian says, 'So the answer is, they were abandoned'

Huginn says, 'the fact that I can't cook!'

Chocorua says, 'skill trees has killed more coders than anything'

Huginn says, 'oh wait, I can.'

LaughingEyes says, 'maybe it is time to do some outsourcing.'

Alashar says, 'better answer is they are going to have to do the exact same thing when/if trees ever go in, making time spent balancing instead of working on trees worthless'

Kaige says, 'too little time to focus on it is a big one'

LaughingEyes giggles at herself.

Sandra says, 'the 5 new fight skills we put in are from skill trees, actually'

Kaige nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Lucian nods his agreement with Sandra.

Lucian says, 'well'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Alashar says to Sandra, 'nice work, only took 8 years :P'

Sandra says, 'hey we put in choke!'

Huginn says to Alashar, 'are you ever happy about anything?'

LadyAce says, 'I think it's more a matter of trying to redesign our projects into something we feel we can complete.'

Alashar says, 'choke has one purpose'

Alashar says, 'to kill the nemean lion :P'

Kaige says, 'but those new skills you're seeing.. with the exception of the iron will ones... are part of the bulk of the work that needs to be done on them still'

Sandra says, 'and to kill asmodean'

Alashar says, 'not anymore'

Sandra giggles.

Alashar says, 'only when it was buggy'

Sandra says, 'yea, but it's still funny'

Lucian looks up into the sky and ponders.

Lucian says, 'Okies'

Ruby says, 'can we expect any more skills after iron will?'

Sandra says, 'not really sure'

Alashar says, 'don't need any more skills'

Sandra says, 'probably not for a while'

Ruby says, 'like ones you need topple or something as a prereq?'

Huginn hopes to work on something like that..

Alashar says, 'actually, the one thing I wonder about is if these are basic level skills...why do they have 80's as reqs :P'

Sandra says, 'now that iron will is done, we're getting ready for pke, then I think we get a vacation'

Huginn says, 'but depends how I'm assigned'

Sandra says to Huginn, 'what do you think?'

LadyAce says, 'part of the process is seeing what people do with what's in'

Huginn grins evilly at Kaige.. wonder what he's thinking...

Alashar says, '"expert" fencing etc. is only 80 req :P'

Huginn says, 'actually I want to do more with taint'

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'oh yea, taint. Well, I get a vacation ;P'

LadyAce says, 'fixing & tweaking usually takes a good bit of time after anything goes in'

Alashar says, 'bows are shot, give it up!'

Ruby rolls his eyes, exasperated with Huginn.

Huginn tickles Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Ruby says to Huginn, 'yeh taint is funny but it's worthless'

LadyAce says, 'and after the reimb deadlines pass, and everyone's all adjusted...then we see where we stand.'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'why?'

Chocorua says, 'there is also the question of how much abuse the coders can take for thier work'

Sandra says, 'taint's fun. The next phase will be even more fun!'

Huginn nods his agreement with Chocorua.

Ruby says to Huginn, 'a sniper needs a friend to taint for him he can't do it himself. if he has the spir to do it then he is dumb'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'find the mob'

Huginn pushes Ruby away from him.

Lucian says to Ruby, 'people with the spirit to taint are dumb'

Ruby says, 'yeh find the mob so he can always run out like the lotus-eater'

Lucian frowns.

Alashar says, 'too many mobs'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'and finding friends should not be that hard'

Sandra says, 'actually, he doesn't run out like the lotus eater. He's more liberal'

Alashar says, 'actually I have a liman with 50 spirit and he can't taint'

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

Ruby says to Huginn, 'I'm too mean for friends!'

Huginn says to Alashar, 'your choice'

Ruby says, 'wish i had some hint on that mob :p'

Sandra has 2 limans with taint.

Alashar says, 'its not on his skilllist'

Alashar says, 'its not a choice :P'

Chocorua says to Ruby, 'anti-social behavior should have consequences'

Lucian cheers for Sandra - huzzah!

Sandra says, 'you're missing something else then'

Changes for Steal Skill?

Ruby says, 'STEAL!'

Ruby says, 'come on throw me a bone here'

Myrella says, 'sucks...'

Alashar says, 'steal is forever crap, give it up dude'

Lorenzo bonks Ruby on the head with a leg bone.

LadyAce giggles at Lorenzo.

Alashar says, 'I do think its a problem we can't steal poultices anymore'

Alashar says, 'that was a viable way to cripple augmenters'

Ruby says, 'yeh basicly snipers have no chance now against augmenters unless they tripp para or something'

Ruby peers at Alashar, looking him up and down.

LadyAce says, 'would be funny if you could steal them but it ruined them when you did.'

Alashar says, 'only way to kill an augmenter is to do a lot of damage really fast...snipers don't really fit the bill :P'

Ruby says to LadyAce, 'still worthless'

Butterfinger! You snag the poultice, but tip the contents all over your self. Nice one.

Alashar laughs.

LadyAce says, 'there.'

Alashar shakes his head.

Alashar says, 'the fun part was using it on yourself and mocking them'

LadyAce giggles at Alashar.

Ruby nods his agreement with Alashar.

Alashar says, 'they HEALED you :P'

Huginn says, 'maybe a potion that you can taint for mana drain'

Huginn says, 'oh wait.. taint sucks'

Sandra wrinkles her nose at Huginn.

Alashar nods his agreement with Huginn.

Huginn says, 'sorry'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'give it up on taint :P'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'I got my pracs back for bows they're so worthless'

Alashar says, 'its those chalices....we don't do enough damage fast enough so they slowly get more and more mana from those :P'

Alashar says, 'its mean'

Huginn laughs at Ruby.

Alashar says, 'hp chalice!'

Huginn says to Alashar, 'you backstab every tick.. '

Alashar says, 'so'

Alashar says, 'they have 450 hp lets say, and my 100 perc bs averages 65'

Alashar says, 'they flee at 200 and heal everytime, they basically are covered'

Alashar says, 'forever :P'

Huginn says, 'so that's 130 hps to their 30 mana'

Ruby says, 'ok let me put it this way.. I had a fight with Brewmoon a few days ago. The fight was over 20 ticks long'

Alashar says, '30 mana is 80 hp'

Alashar says, 'plus normal standing healing'

Huginn says, 'not for a battle druid these days'

Lorenzo blinks.

Ruby says, 'a sniper can not kill an augmenter unless you get super super luck with para's or catch a stupid one in a not flee room'

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

Alashar says, 'I don't expect sniper love from you guys, but we try :P'

Alashar says, 'damn mage imms!'

Ruby spits on the ground.

Huginn shrugs helplessly.

Alashar pouts.

Huginn says, 'whatever'

Big Groups & Lag?

Ruby says, 'so why do you folks insist on saying that big groups don't lag the mud?'

Alashar chuckles politely.

Ruby says, 'we all know they do so you can drop that pretence'

Sandra says, 'lately the mud has just been lagging badly, period'

Alashar says, 'I have a theory about that'

Chocorua says, 'well moving from one room to another is huge cpu cost so a big group moving might cose performance that way'

Ruby says to Sandra, 'lagging badly because of all the groups'

Alashar says, 'it didn't used to though'

Sandra shakes her head.

Sandra says, 'even without the big groups'

Ruby ignores reason and says it's all the groups.

Myrella laughs at Ruby.

Alashar says, 'groups make a huge difference, sucks, but at least most groups only last a few minutes'

PK Tourney?

Ruby says to Sandra, 'any thought yet on the pkill turny?'

Sandra says, 'still waiting on my work schedule to come out. Should have it tomorrow'

Ruby nods solemnly.

-Prestige Bug?

Ruby says, 'hey what in the world is up with Damer'

Ruby says, 'that was got to be one of the best bugs I'v seen in awhile'

Sandra says, 'I dunno why his prestige won't go up. I'd have to see the character'

Alashar says, 'she says she has no clue'

Alashar says, 'rus praised him to 5'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'then he rented and came back with 0'

Alashar laughs.

Sandra giggles.

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Alashar says, 'I praised him with 3 chars'

Alashar says, 'he went up 0 :P'

Alashar says, 'poor boy can't lullaby anymore'

Ruby says, 'is there a -pres item or something we don't know about?'

Alashar sniffs sadly.

Ruby says, 'maybe it's like a drain not just a strait up -'

Alashar says, 'miss those...'

Chocorua says, 'can't?'

Alashar says, 'an item can't be -100 prestige :P'

Alashar says, 'that has to break some building rules somewhere'

Alashar says, 'besides'

Alashar says, 'he hasn't changed items in years'

Sandra says, 'sure they can. But I don't think any are'

Klein Update Progress?

Alashar says, 'how is klien coming these days'

LadyAce says, 'coming ok, made some good progress during my roadtrip over the last weekend.'

Alashar says, 'what % would you say was complete'

Alashar says, '30%?'

LadyAce says, 'Hrm, I'm not good with that kinda thing.'

Alashar is afraid of the klien update.

LadyAce says, 'I have to finish up a good portion of a couple quests, and do some polishing.'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'ack'

You do a slow fade as Sandra whines at LadyAce, hoping she won't get to you too.

Alashar says, 'but the meat and potatos are done?'

Lorenzo says, 'potatoes'

Lorenzo giggles.

LadyAce says, 'I don't think it's anything to fear, really. I'm not making it into Greece.'

LadyAce ducks to the ground.

Alashar laughs.

Alashar says, 'I fear you'll make the mobs no longer worth xping'

Sandra says, 'it's turning into anasazi tho ;)'

Alashar says, 'its one of the few areas left thats good for a small group of 2 or 3'

Alashar says, 'at level 50 that is'

Arrak goes EEK! at Sandra in distress - isn't Sandra an awful person for teasing?

Arrak bows before Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'It's my intention to keep the small-groups run character of the area'

Sandra says, '5 loooooooooong years!'

Alashar says, 'cool'

Alashar says, 'need more areas like that :)'

LadyAce says to Sandra, 'how come you call it anasazi? giving people different stuff to do during the day?'

Sandra says, 'coz it took Zandy 5 years to finish it ;)'

Sandra giggles.

Area Proposal Advice?

Ruby says, 'before I throw away alot of my time working on an area would you please flat out tell me I have no chance at ever becoming a builder?'

Alashar says, 'you should add this klien in a different dimension so we can have 2 kliens :P'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'you have no chance to become a builder'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'unless your english improves'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'hey i can use a dictionary just fine!'

LadyAce says, 'I thought the proposal you sent in way back was pretty cool, really'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'writing is more than looking up words in a dictionary'

LadyAce says, 'you got some good feedback way back then, some positives and some negatives.'

Huginn says to LadyAce, 'no you're thinking of gaidal's :-)'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'I can use coma's also!'

Huginn ducks to the ground.

Ruby laughs.

Alashar says, 'become an imm ruby'

Alashar says, 'then you will be my puppet'

LadyAce says to Huginn, 'Hrm, thought it was Ruby proposed Moby Dick?'

LadyAce pats Alashar on the head.

Huginn rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Alashar laughs.

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Huginn says, 'it was'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'if i ever come an imm I'm going to turn admin someday and torment you'

LadyAce says, 'well, I liked it :)'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Alashar says, 'I don't even remember what gaidal did'

Ruby says, 'hell I worked alot on that too!'

Alashar says, 'then promptly lost it'

Alashar says, 'genius'

Ruby says, 'and I did alot more last year but never submitted it'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'actualy I found it just now on my folks computer'

Alashar says, '*I* did a lot of work on a proposal once :P'

Alashar says, 'back before my faith in man was lost'

Huginn says to Alashar, 'you're too hard on the staff'

Alashar says, 'I wrote a 40 room prototype of my area in qbasic'

Alashar says, 'and you could walk around in it :P'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'he is to hard to live with'

Ruby ducks to the ground.

Huginn says to Alashar, 'I think you have good ideas but that's only a part of it'

LadyAce says to Alashar, 'If you can't get along with people, there's no way they'll invite you to swim in their pool.'

Alashar says, 'don't wanna be an imm'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'I want ruby to be my puppet'

Alashar laughs.

Arrak chuckles politely.

Huginn doubts that would happen

Ruby says to Alashar, 'swear to god you would hate me as an imm dude'

Alashar says, 'master! master! pleasant dreams that I've been after!'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'I would use it as an excuse to be an ass to you'

Alashar says, 'another reason they won't let you be one :)'

Alashar says, 'or maybe a bonus to letting you be one!'

Alashar throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Huginn would make sure the first imm command ruby got would be glue.

Ruby says, 'Dave says "make a report weapon" I go an make a q2 one'

Alashar says, 'be an imm, I'll laugh while you spend all your time whining about 8 different descritpions for one room'

Alashar says, 'laugh very, very hard :P'

Huginn says, 'anyway..'

LadyAce says, 'don't HAVE to make 8 :P'

Alashar says, 'suuure you don't'

Sandra says, 'you don't'

Huginn says to Ruby, 'I have to say.. never thought you were lazy..'

Ruby says, 'screw that. area's are too fancy nowadays. mine would be the basics but still nice'

Alashar says, 'romania baby'

Sandra says, 'that's only for weather, day/night, etc if you want'

Ruby says to Huginn, 'I'm lazy when it comes to manual labor'

Alashar says, 'the best area ever'

Alashar says, 'simple, nice'

In Progress Areas?

Arrak says, 'so how is Hell coming along?'

Cheyla says to Arrak, 'kae is working hard on it still'

Arrak says to Cheyla, 'is there an eta? or nope?'

Sandra says, 'nope'

Cheyla shakes her head.

Arrak cheers wildly!

Arrak chuckles politely.

Cheyla says, '"when it's finished"'

Arrak chortles with amusement.

Arrak nods solemnly.

Huginn thinks its nicely detailed though

Arrak nods solemnly.

Cheyla says, 'it's hell... not just in name'

Arrak says, 'thanks!'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'yea it's huge'

Alashar says, 'I hear your making an indus alaska'

Cheyla says, 'eventually'

Alashar says, 'are you going to put some USEFUL guns in it that might compete with the lone one used these days? :P'

Ruby says, 'praise god for more indus areas'

Cheyla says, 'zanzibar is closer to being done, really'

Cheyla says, 'i'm not looking at guns at the moment'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'was just hoping something could compete'

Changes to Old Guns?

Alashar says, 'any chance old guns will be relooked at?'

Sandra says, 'old guns?'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'actualy they might have'

Huginn says, 'prev areas'

Alashar says, 'guns prior to pittsburg :P'

Sandra says, 'pittsburgH dammit'

Alashar says, 'pittsburg'

Spirit Penalty to Hit & Dam?

Piccolo says, 'a question about the spi change... wouldn't it be more discouraging to make it affect hitroll rather than damroll?'

Piccolo panics, and attempts to flee.

Kaige says, 'piccolo had one... perhaps it was lost in the spam?'

LadyAce says to Piccolo, 'sorry about that, what was it?'

Piccolo says, 'it was an evil suggestion - not really serious..'

Kaige says to Huginn, 'he asked why not hitroll instead of damroll for the spirit thing'

Piccolo says, 'a question about the spi change... wouldn't it be more discouraging to make it affect hitroll rather than damroll?'

Piccolo says, 'since hitroll is so worshipped and glorified these days'

Sandra says, 'lets make it affect both!'

Sandra throws her head back and cackles gleefully!

Piccolo blinks.

Piccolo goes EEK! in distress.

Alashar says, 'actually'

Huginn is on it.

Ruby says, 'I'd go for that'

Alashar says, 'not a bad idea'

Sandra says, 'yea, I like it'

Alashar says, 'my sniper with - spirit loses like .2 damroll'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Alashar's head.

Sandra says to Huginn, 'hit and dam it is!'

Ruby cheers wildly!

Piccolo gets out his log tables and slide rules to find out how much hitroll he'd lose

Sandra giggles at Piccolo.

-Dex Surgeons? Bah.

Ruby says, 'and do something about the -dex sugeons too!'

Sandra says, 'what? They can't carry anything and can't flee'

Alashar says, 'noone can flee'

Alashar ducks to the ground.

Sandra says, 'we could paint a bullseye on their forehead'

Ruby says, 'if you have no dex how in the world do you make your operation incision or whatever you call it'

Sandra says, 'A surgeon stands here, a big red bullseye on his forehead.'

Alashar throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Can Missile Weapons be +8?

Alashar says, 'actually'

Alashar says, 'I have a question I've been meaning to ask'

Kaige picks up a MaGiC EiGhTbAlL and shakes it vigorously.

Kaige peers into her magic ball and declares, 'Concentrate and ask again.'

Alashar says, 'why is it you guys are afraid to make projectile weapons +8?'

Piccolo says, 'throwies?'

Alashar says, '9/10 are only +6, or +7'

Sandra says, 'we have made some of them +8'

Alashar says, 'its really discouraging'

Piccolo says, 'oh, 2-handeds'

Alashar says, 'not even projectiles'

Alashar says, 'all 2handed for that matter'

Alashar says, 'I think of ALL 2 hand I've checked, I've seen one +8'

Kaige says, 'missile weapons, not projectiles.'

Ruby says to Alashar, 'there has been some changes since we last looked for them'

Alashar says, 'a few +7 or +7.5's'

Piccolo says, 'only one I saw was 6 stat 3 hitroll'

Alashar says, 'just seems like people were afraid of the +8's for some reason'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, '7.5'

Piccolo says, 'ya, 7.5 =)'

Alashar says, 'certainly not afraid of +5's, what gives :P'

Alashar says to Kaige, 'you should considering making the beowulf staff 8 hit/dam'

Alashar says to Kaige, 'that would be hilarious :P'

Ruby throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Sandra says, 'it's not allowed'

Alashar says, 'damn!'

Ruby says to Sandra, 'what is the max hit/dam allowed?'

Alashar says, 'I'd laugh so hard at that'

Alashar says, 'probably 5/5'

Sandra says, '6 is the max'

Alashar says, 'really'

Ruby says, '6 total or 6 of each?'

Sandra says, 'total'

Alashar says, 'why?'

Alashar says, 'without more hit/dam on 2h weapons, makes it hard to justify'

Ruby nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'since your giving up 6 dam from a herne horn'

Ruby says, 'unless of corse you guys want to make some hit/dam items that actualy arn't held'

Alashar says, 'nah'

Sandra says, 'there are quite a few already that aren't held'

Alashar says, 'I think he meant useful'

Ruby says, 'i know but not enough imo'

Sandra says, 'there are quite a few already that aren't held'

Alashar says, 'spiked heels are not useful :P'

Alashar says, 'those collars in tara are not useful :P'

Sandra says, 'I'm not counting those'

Alashar says, 'that item in kz is not useful'

Alashar says, 'brines are nice'

Alashar says, 'that belt would be better if it was +5'

Ruby says, 'so for damroll ya got weapon held and ring'

Ruby says, 'those are the only +5 nets there are'

Ruby says, 'that i know of anyway'

Sandra says, 'there's actually um, lemme count'

Alashar looks up into the sky and ponders.

Alashar says, 'don't forget the other held damroll ones'

Alashar says, 'in the abbey'

Piccolo says, 'Wasn't there a belt as well?'

Sandra says, 'most slots, cept I think 3'

Alashar nods his agreement with Piccolo.

Sandra says, 'and I won't say which 3'

Alashar says, 'but its only +4.5'

Piccolo looks up into the sky and ponders.

Piccolo nods solemnly.

Piccolo says, 'light!'

Piccolo ducks to the ground.

Ruby says to Sandra, 'no really how many +5nets are there? not very dang many'

Sandra says, '5 nets? If you're not counting hit or dam in that, then none. Coz hit and dam are part of stats'

Piccolo says, '+5 nets should be the rolls-royce of all eqs'

Sandra says, 'if you are, then all of those'

Alashar says to Piccolo, 'not so'

Ruby says to Sandra, '1 dam =.5'

Piccolo says, 'ya, too easy to get some of them =('

Alashar says, 'a +5 item, as described by you guys when the changes went in sandra :)'

Sandra says to Ruby, 'Since I put that in place, I am aware ;)'

Ruby hangs his head.

Alashar says, 'hit/dam have become another stat, thats all'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'but they fit in the equation now'

Sandra says, 'still stand by my list'

Sandra giggles.

Alashar says, 'nah'

Ruby says to Sandra, 'I don't say this very offten but I think your totaly 100% wrong :P'

Alashar says, 'there are many items I haven't seen, but there are not 18 slots with +5 items that include damroll'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says to Ruby, 'that's ok. I have the objects list'

Ruby says to Sandra, 'all lies!'

Sandra giggles.

Alashar says, 'sides, hitroll is a lot harder to come by'

Sandra ruffles Ruby's hair playfully.

Alashar says, 'and unfortunately the code favors hitroll over damroll in combat these days'

Sandra says, 'hitroll is, yes.'

Sandra says, 'and that's why hitroll is'

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

Changes for Surgeons?

Sandra says, 'i just did an evil thing to surgeons'

Sandra says, 'go me!'

Lorenzo winces.

Lorenzo says, 'I just made a surgeon to get away from the other evil things'

Ruby says, 'oh god what it take 20mv to operate or something now :p'

Kaige says, 'blame Ptah.. not her'

Piccolo winces.

Lorenzo says, 'not really'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'it's not bad'

Sandra says, 'a little evil'

Piccolo says, 'say byebye to operating while being dragged halfway across the mud?'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'but they just asked for it!'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says, 'they did'

Alashar says, 'did you make dex hurt surgeons? :P'

Alashar says, 'low dex that is'

Sandra says, 'yup'

Ruby says, 'that would be nice not evil'

Alashar laughs.

Alashar says, 'poor arrak'

Ruby cheers wildly!

Alashar says, 'he has -16'

Lorenzo chortles with amusement.

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

Alashar says, 'a surgeon without 30 dex is dumb anyway :)'

Piccolo says, 'with -16 it's amazing he can actually make a straight incision =)'

Huginn says, 'oh yeah well I just penalized low spirit hitroll'

Kaige says, 'no..that wouldn't help much either.'

Sandra jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Huginn!

Alashar laughs at Huginn.

Ruby says, 'I hate people with -'s anyway'

Ruby says, 'so more power to ya'

Alashar says, 'poor low spirit...'

Alashar says, 'I'll miss it'

Alashar says, 'does perc affect damage done by guns?'

Sandra looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra doesn't know.

Sandra says, 'I think skill affects damage done by guns'

Sandra says, 'so in a way, yes'

Ruby says, 'damn it i was wrong!'

Alashar grins evilly.

Ruby says to Alashar, 'ok you win this one'

Alashar says, 'muuuahhhh'

Sandra giggles.

Alashar says, 'in reality, it probably should'

Alashar says, 'makes sense if I'm perceptive I can hit a more "painful" spot'

Alashar says, 'what say you on that sandra and huginn!'

Alashar says, 'should perc affect gun damage?'

Sandra says, 'i answered the perc one'

Sandra says, 'oh'

Sandra says, 'well, it does kinda'

Alashar says, 'I think it should'

Alashar says, 'just curious'

Alashar says, '80+ doesn't'

Alashar says, '80+ dex and str do...'

Alashar says, '80+ mind does'

Alashar says, '80+ spirit does'

Piccolo says, 'gun damage?'

Alashar says, 'why not perc?'

Diana says, 'Lilian has 100 perc and hardly ever snipes, or does much damage with her gun'

Diana sighs loudly.

Piccolo says, 'oh'

Piccolo ponders his own existence - better keep an eye on him.

Sandra says, 'I think that the damage the gun has and the level of skill, and the number of aims is plenty?'

Rusalka peers around intently.

Alashar says, 'I disagree'

Alashar says, 'you should promote high stats'

Ruby says, 'aim'n up does nothing nowadays'

Alashar says, 'you do so for all but perc :P'

Alashar says, 'why!'

Rusalka peers around intently.

Piccolo says, 'I thought the higher your perc the less chance of you losing your aim?'

Diana nods her agreement with Ruby.

Sandra says, 'I think Piccolo's right. But I'm not sure'

Alashar says, 'that doesn't really count :P'

Piccolo says, 'well my 100 perc sniper never seems to lose aim'

Alashar says, 'strength gets a + to damage'

Alashar says, 'dex gets + to hit'

Alashar says, 'mind gets + to damage ons pells'

Piccolo says, 'while my 80 perc deadeye has problems getting to the fifth aim'

Alashar says, 'spirit gets + to augmenting heals'

Sandra says, 'and perc gets a 1 round special that can snipe, stun and set to sitting =P'

Ruby says, 'when will you all understand. Aim means nothing!'

Alashar says, 'can but doesn't'

Alashar says, 'exactly'

Diana says, 'bleh'

Alashar says, 'aim is pretty pointless :P'

Piccolo says, 'aiming makes me feel more professional =)'

Alashar says, 'ask ruby how many times I tried to snipe him the other night'

Alashar says, 'with 100 perc'

Diana says, 'they hardly ever work and now with being unable to flee, being a sniper is difficult'

Ruby says, 'man he tried to snipe me about 20 times'

Alashar says, 'it was funny :P'

Piccolo says, 'I thought that's a problem with snipe, not perc in general.'

Piccolo says, 'for problem read feature'

Alashar says, 'aimed shots only do 40 damage anyway'

Sandra says, 'well, I'm not a fan of snipe anyway'

Alashar says, '100 mind does 70 damage firestorms'

Alashar says, 'neither am I'

Sandra says, 'so I'd be a bad one to argue with about it'

Ruby says, 'neither am I but it's funny every now and then'

Alashar says, 'I don't want to snipe more'

Alashar says, 'I want the average damage to do more'

Diana grins evilly at Ruby.. wonder what she's thinking...

Ruby says, 'oh I got one'

Ruby says, 'when you aim up I have NEVER EVER EVER gotten a stun shot. why is that?'

Sandra says, 'I think that if snipers can get instant death with an xp(on mobs) then mages should be able to get xp and use their instant death on players =P'

Alashar laughs.

Rusalka giggles.

Alashar says, 'one problem'

Alashar says, 'ours initiates combat'

Alashar says, 'mages don't'

Alashar says, 'ours has a flag'

Alashar says, 'mages don't'

Sandra says, 'it could!'

Piccolo says, 'we can make it so...'

Piccolo throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Alashar says, 'ours uses rent, mages don't'

Piccolo says, 'yours doesn't use mana'

Alashar says, 'and we have to sit to do it and aim for 5 god damn minutes :P'

Sandra says, 'theirs uses mana, which is necessary for their fight'

Sandra says, 'and a create mages does cost rent'

Alashar says, 'create mages isn't very useful'

Alashar says, 'its all about cause id'

Alashar says, 'but I digress, I don't id with mages anymore anyway'

Sandra giggles.

Alashar says, 'much easier to just make charmies and kill them'

Ruby says, 'I ID'd two things the other day. 1st time in years'

Piccolo says, 'cause?'

Alashar says, 'skeletons'

Piccolo nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'or log on you create alt'

Alashar says, 'either one'

Alashar says, 'anyway'

Alashar says, 'thats my contribution for the say'

Ruby says, 'personaly I say just take away the word jiv :P'

Alashar says, 'day'

Alashar says, 'consider giving a damage bonus to high perc'

Alashar says, 'not a lot'

Alashar says, 'but make it worth having high perc for something other then aim :P'

Piccolo says, 'there used to be an ac bonus, then a hitroll bonus'

Alashar says, 'nope'

Alashar says, 'those are all gone'

Piccolo says, 'but I believe both were overpowered'

Alashar says, 'perc is hated for some reason :P'

Alashar says, 'I think the game should have been a 5 stat system'

Sandra says, 'well, I'll say that we'll look into it. But no guarantees'

Ruby says, 'high perc is fairly screwed. only thing they get is a once a tick special'

Piccolo says, 'or rather, people on the receiving end of the hitroll/ac thought it was'

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

Alashar says, 'I thought dex people with the ac and hitroll bonus were overpowered, take it away :P'

Carnival Mallet Suggestion

Alashar says, 'does anyone maintain carni anymore?'

Alashar says, 'I'd really love to see that quest mallet q5, its funny'

Alashar says, 'was going to suggest it but i don't know if anyone does it'

Sandra says, 'yes, idea it'

LadyAce says, 'I think Leila is primarily focused on london when she has time to do legend stuff.'

LadyAce says, 'but yea, idea it for sure'

Piccolo nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Alashar says, 'leila?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'I haven't seen her in years...'

Alashar says, 'I thought she retired'

Piccolo says, 'nope'

Sandra says, 'she doesn't log in much, But she still works on london'

Alashar says, 'man :P'

LadyAce says, 'I've seen her around now and again.'

Alashar says, 'she'll never see my suggestion, hehe'

Alashar says, 'ah well'

Piccolo smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'well, thanks for coming :)'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Ruby says, 'next week I promise to be good!'

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce chuckles politely.

LadyAce will believe it when she sees it, and stuff.

Ruby says, 'unless of corse he starts it'

Ruby ducks to the ground.

Huginn waves happily.

Sandra waves happily.

Ruby says, 'later'

LadyAce waves happily.

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Emrysia: Why is it you can't demolish a room with two exits? Or, at least disconnect one exit so that the room can be demolished? Or is there, and i just can't find it in the help files? :)

o "help bath/bathing/services" all say "No help available on 'services'"

This is because all those keywords currently point to "services" but the actual file for services doesn't exist yet.

o Make skills like forge and repair avail for everyone.. whats the deal with a blacksmith in Tara and Tarans can't even get those skills?

Repair will never be available to everyone. Historically, many cultures didn't repair broken weapons and tools. they just forged new ones. Forge, I'm not as sure about why Tarans don't currently get it but I assume it has something to do with their relative technology level and that currently required by the skill being higher.

o I am able to cast a locate person spell and find mobs from the pittsburgh baseball team in a room called 'the pittsburgh map room' during a time when they are inaccessible to mortalplayers, I am also able to send mobs in this room tells.

We usually have one of those type areas available to mobs only in each area. The mobs are still in the game and thus able to remember information, settings and have their equipment remain the same when they're "offstage". These rooms are also where the mobs that control quests and other events often sit and do their job.

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