April 3rd, 2003

Someone Perma'd My Char!

Banana says, 'i had a char and my friend raziel got on my char and perma killed him what can i do?'

Kae says, 'good grief'

Sandra says, 'how'd he get on your char?'

Banana says, 'he saw my password'

LadyAce says, 'you should have changed it!'

Banana says, 'he is a computer person that can find a password even if you hide it well'

Huginn snorts derisively.

Huginn says, 'that's wrong'

Kae says, 'and you call this guy your friend?!'

LadyAce says, 'the thing to do is talk to the admin department and they will make a decision about what to do'

Banana nods solemnly.

Banana says, 'this is ridic'

Banana says, 'alt'

LadyAce says, 'no one can find your password if you don't save it on the computer. Even a good computer person can't find it if it's no there.'

Banana says, 'he killed ridic my lvl 50 char'

LadyAce says, 'er not there.'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Banana says, 'he did!'

LadyAce says, 'talk to an admin about it, and they'll figure out what to do.'

LadyAce comforts Banana.

Banana says, 'don't know how but he didi'

Banana says, 'where is that at'

LadyAce says, 'my guess is that he's not much of a friend after all, though. I'm sorry to hear it.'

Sandra says, 'mudmail or email haley'

Banana says, 'i cussed him out and told him what i thought of him'

LadyAce says, 'look for someone with an [ A] in their title -- that's an admin'

Banana says, 'i mailed her'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'she'll get back to you for sure.'

Banana nods solemnly.

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Banana says, 'i hope so that was my first lvl 50 char i have ever had'

LadyAce smiles at Banana.

LadyAce hugs Banana.

Banana bows before LadyAce.

Comments about Group Areas

Sandra says, 'I'm starting to hate group areas'

Kae too.

Kae says, 'kinda bored and in need of a redeem point so just for a change of pace'

Kae giggles.

LadyAce says, 'maybe we should start massive limiting of the people per room, or have mobs clone themselves if they're "outnumbered"'

Sandra giggles.

Kae giggles.

Kae wouldn't object to that in certain areas, that's for sure.

The ghostly pirate yells "hey boys, we've got a whole passel of wanna-be-heroes in here! come and get 'em!"

Emrysia giggles.

Kae drools contentedly.

LadyAce says, 'clearly we need to make even more changes :) no one's here to complain!'

Rusalka pets the Happy Cat

Kae rolls up her sleeves.

Sandra says, 'well, we have a bunch more on the way and no one here to tell hardly!'

LadyAce giggles.

Possible PK Changes

LadyAce says to Sandra, 'tell me about the changes :) then it'll be in the logs at least!'

LadyAce says, 'C'mon Auntie Sandra, tell us about the future!'

Sandra says, 'well, which would you like to hear about? Pk? Spirit? Augment?'

Sandra says, 'we've got a few proposals in the works. First one is a possible change to pk'

Myrthorn shows his approval by clapping his hands together.

Myrthorn says, 'eliminating it?'

Sandra says, 'that is, adding in pke along with pkok. So there will be 2 versions running together'

Myrthorn pouts.

Sandra says, 'nah that's a last resort ;)'

Myrthorn smiles happily.

Myrthorn says, 'PKE?'

Sandra says, 'old pk'

LadyAce says, 'Tell us, why is this change being considered?'

LadyAce is playing interviewer.

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'It's been discussed off and on for probably a year. Because of the complaints of the so called 'hard core' pkillers and their lack of targets. Or those complaints about the abuse of pkok'

Sandra says, 'should add a new level to what we have currently without much more complaining than there is now'

Sandra says, 'hopefully less complaining ;)'

Myrthorn nods solemnly.

Myrthorn says, 'is that what Godwars was designed for?'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Kae.

Sandra says, 'godwars?'

Myrthorn says, 'erm, isn't, that was'

Myrthorn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Myrthorn says, 'yah, pk'

Myrthorn snickers softly.

Myrthorn says, 'sorry, never got into pk'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'well, it should allow the rp pkillers to keep on doing just that and the ones that like the risk continue with that, without clashing like they have been'

Myrthorn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says to Huginn, 'did I miss anything?'

Myrthorn giggles.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Myrthorn says, 'I already tried that trick'

Sandra says, 'oh'

Huginn shakes his head in disagreement with Sandra.

Sandra says, 'pk clans will be just that pk clans. they'll be both pke and pkok. Meaning always accepting each other and other pke people, and have the ability to use pkok as well'

Sandra says, 'think that's everything there'

Lorenzo says, 'ooh, pke'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Rusalka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rusalka says to Sandra, 'that could work'

Myrthorn says, 'Sandra wants to castrate the peacocks'

Sandra nods her agreement with Rusalka.

Myrthorn ducks to the ground.

Sandra says, 'I really think that it will'

Sandra giggles at Myrthorn.

Rusalka just wants everyone to be happy.

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Lorenzo says, 'now taking bets on percentages of whiners this will hush'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says to Rusalka, 'pk clans will be both pke and pkok'

Rusalka smiles happily.

Rusalka says, 'ohhhh'

Rusalka says, 'one or the other?'

Rusalka says, 'or all both'

Sandra says, 'both, together'

LadyAce says, 'PKE includes PKOK in it'

Rusalka giggles.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'pkok is a subset'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says, 'pke to pke people and pk clans, and pkok to everyone else'

Rusalka says, 'clans may want to watch the balance'

Sandra nods her agreement with Rusalka.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra nods her agreement with Rusalka.

Lorenzo says, 'if i understand correctly'

Rusalka sighs loudly.

Rusalka giggles.

Sandra says, 'yea'

Sandra says, 'cept pke will also be pkok'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'right'

Myrthorn wonders what will happen to the flamingo's, now that the peacocks are happy

Augment Changes

Sandra says, 'next on the list is augment'

Sandra says, 'right now, there's no real bonus for having high spirit with augment'

Sandra says, 'that'll change tho!'

Sandra says, 'if you have minimum spirit for augment, your healing will decrease. If you have high spirit, your healing remains unchanged'

Sandra says, 'mana cost for augment will be increased by +5 for low spirit'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'so it pays to have high spirit.'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Changes Regarding Spirit and Fighters

Sandra says, 'next is some spirit changes that I'm gonna let Huginn talk about =P'

LadyAce says, 'great! Tell us all about it, Huginn.'

Huginn says, 'ok, we're going to try to make spirit a more valuable stat for warriors'

Wolfbane says, 'hmm'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'this will be done in a couple of ways'

Myrthorn cheers wildly!

Huginn says, 'first.. if your spirit is 5 or less, your hit and damage roll will be significantly decreased'

Huginn says, 'on the plus side, there will be a new skill called iron will..'

Myrthorn says, 'below 5? ... oiy ... pathetic'

Rusalka knows people with -spir

Huginn says, 'which will enhance certain combat abilities, one each for con str and dex'

Wolfbane says, 'sort of comparable to monk fighters on other muds'

Sandra says, 'fighters currently don't need spirit, so they take it into the negative. We wanna change that, but keep it low enough that it's not a HUGE change'

Sandra nods her agreement with Wolfbane.

Huginn says, 'also.. this will only be for warriors.. no augment, no chant'

Wolfbane says, 'great, now give me hand to hand combat and I am a happy dancing turkey'

Wolfbane smiles to himself.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'that one is a little tougher to do ;)'

Kae wants to see a happy dancing turkey.

Lorenzo says, 'iron will is an explicit skill, something you do? or implicit, always active, like peek?'

Huginn says, 'passive but activated based on spirit'

Lorenzo says, 'ah, didn't know whether there were official words for that :)'

Lorenzo says, 'so we're talking about a lot more stringent class identification here'

Lorenzo looks up into the sky and ponders.

Huginn says, 'we're taling about possibilities'

Wolfbane says, 'Is this Iron will going to be significant enough to balance the scales in pkill'

Lorenzo says to Huginn, 'eh?'

Sandra says, 'It's an addition. It's not going to hurt a fighter that doesn't have it'

Huginn says, 'mages have one path, warriors have another... battle mages can pick certain skills from each'

Wolfbane says, 'or just kind of like a klien fight bonus'

LadyAce says, 'what's iron will do?'

Sandra says, 'it's going to be a nice bonus for each type of fighter. Not really comparable to klein bonus'

LadyAce says, 'I don't know what "bonus" means :) enhancement to some set of skills? Which skills? What kind of enhancement?'

Huginn says, 'ok..'

Huginn says, 'con would get a chance to reduce their stun count'

Wolfbane says, 'which makes sense'

Wolfbane smiles happily.

Huginn says, 'dex would get an addition to their ability to tumble'

Wolfbane loves logic.

Myrthorn nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'str would get a damage bonus'

Myrthorn stands on his tip-toes and does a Snoopy-like dance of joy!

LadyAce says, 'and con would mean -- have con skills? con is their top stat? what if they have two top stats or two weapon proficiency sets?'

Sandra giggles.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Wolfbane says, 'how is that determines if Ihave 100 dex str and all weapon profs'

Sandra says, 'top stat. Probably should check weapon used?'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Myrthorn.

Wolfbane giggles.

Myrthorn says, 'I've got a warrior that I'd prob classify as a ranger'

Myrthorn says, 'has high str, dex, and spirit'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says, 'ooh, i'm gonna go for an even, say, 80/80/80'

Myrthorn says, 'more of a backstabber fighter, with herbal abilities'

Huginn says, 'actually it should be all relevant stats'

Myrthorn says, 'uhm herbal ... so spirit is high already'

Sandra says, 'if they have augment, iron will won't be for them'

Myrthorn nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says, 'so augment and chant will "disable" iron will?'

Myrthorn says, 'no augment'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Wolfbane says, 'so this won't work for say a klein half mage'

Sandra nods her agreement with Wolfbane.

Huginn says, 'you won't be able to learn it, no'

Lorenzo says to Wolfbane, 'nothing does'

Sandra says, 'pure fighters'

LadyAce says, 'so they'd have all 3 abilities but they would be best if you had 100?'

Wolfbane says, 'wow, something just for fighters, a novel idea'

Wolfbane smiles happily.

Lorenzo says, 'but what if you learn iron will first -- no chant then?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Myrthorn raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Lorenzo says, 'hmm, lots of paths of no return here'

Myrthorn says, 'thought you said iron was passive skill'

Sandra says, 'well you still have to learn it'

LadyAce says, 'it's definitely a classing move -- having skills be exclusive of each other, I mean.'

Myrthorn says, 'still requires a prac to learn?'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Myrthorn nods solemnly.

Lorenzo nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Wolfbane says to Myrthorn, 'maybe think of it like dodge'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Huginn nods solemnly.

Myrthorn nods his agreement with Lorenzo.

LadyAce says, 'I think our problem with staying unclassed has been that it's made it too hard to give enough options to all the paths without giving them all to one set at once'

Wolfbane says, 'will this damage enhancement of str fighters allow for a greater max dam?'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'this'll probably be the last addition to fighters we do for a while. After that, we wanna see how they all play out'

LadyAce says, 'so classing it out does get around that problem.'

Huginn says to Wolfbane, 'no'

Wolfbane says to Huginn, 'just increases the chances of arriving at max dam?'

Huginn nods his agreement with Wolfbane.

Rusalka says, 'hms'

Rusalka says, 'this may make fighters more interesting to play'

Lorenzo says, 'so, rewinding a little -- the spirit bonus won't apply in any way if -- what? you have chant or augment?'

Sandra says, 'right'

Lorenzo says, 'IOW, is that the thing that defines warriorism?'

Rusalka has created the discussion board!

Sandra says, 'having or not having those 2 skills?'

Sandra says, 'right now, it's the easiest way to, yes'

LadyAce says, 'not having sullied your manly hands digging up the garden :)'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Sandra.

Wolfbane says, 'anything that eats up my fighters 16 unused practices is welcome in my book'

Wolfbane smiles happily.

Sandra giggles.

Lorenzo chuckles politely at LadyAce's feeble witticism.

Myrthorn rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Rusalka giggles.

Sandra says, 'we wanna make fighters a useful class. But at the same time, we don't want to downgrade the other types out there. Giving them different skills and bonuses may look like we're downgrading others'

Sandra says, 'but we really aren't. We're just putting the fighters up to the same level'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'well, it's always all relative'

Wolfbane says, 'something that was sorely needed'

Wolfbane nods to himself.

Rusalka says, 'but'

Myrthorn says, 'already put us create mages down'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Myrthorn sniffs sadly.

Myrthorn giggles.

Rusalka says, 'i might even make a straight fighter now'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'create mages needed a kick in the butt ;)'

Huginn says, 'that was necessary'

Sandra giggles at Rusalka.

Myrthorn rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Lorenzo says, 'hmm... so if I want a warrior-classed character unaffected by the low spirit thing, I just need to learn chant or augment while my mind and spirit are high, then ditch the eq and boost my fight stats.'

Emrysia nods her agreement with Rusalka.

Kae's create mage is unphased.

Kae nods to herself.

Rusalka nods her agreement with Kae.

Rusalka giggles.

Rusalka says, 'i think mine will deal'

Huginn says to Lorenzo, 'huh?'

Sandra says, 'I see what he's saying'

LadyAce says, 'well, you don't get any benefit from a skill when you don't have the reqs for it'

LadyAce says, 'it gets a - and stops working for you'

Lorenzo says, 'but if you know it, you're automatically not a fighter'

Sandra says, 'and I'd go with 'no' ;) The spirit penalty will still hurt you if you don't qualify for the skills'

Rusalka says, 'not a specialized fighter either'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Rusalka says, 'right now'

Huginn says, 'that has nothing to do with iron will'

Huginn says, 'that has to do with having no self control'

Rusalka says, 'we have people that fight plus do magic'

Kae points proudly at herself.

Myrthorn nods his agreement with Huginn.

LadyAce says, 'it's a poor man's skilltrees :)'

Rusalka says, 'sounds like this gives more of a ultra fighter class'

Sandra says, 'so if you get chant, and no longer qualify for chant, you will get hurt by going < 5 spirit'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says, 'ah, class (for these purposes) is defined by knowing *and* qualifying?'

Lorenzo was thinking just knowing, regardless of qualifying.

LadyAce says, 'we'll probably want to make some serious mods to chant teachers if we haven't...warning people that by choosing it they're blocking their access to fighting specialities.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

Lorenzo looks up into the sky and ponders.

Lorenzo says, 'okay, so I can be an iron-willed warrior and a magician, if I can turn my stats around with eq'

Lorenzo says, 'disqualifying for one or the other in the process'

Sandra says, 'you will never be able to learn iron will with chant'

Huginn says to Lorenzo, 'you can't be a mage and have iron will'

Wolfbane says, 'so in the long run this is going to make half mages more of a jack of all trades than best of both worlds'

LadyAce says, 'if you have a skill learned, whether it is + or -, the teachers will say no.'

Sandra says, 'but you will be penalized even with chant, if you go lower than 5 spi'

Lorenzo says to Huginn, 'but by "be a mage", you mean "know chant" or "currently be able to chant"?'

LadyAce says, '"know chant"'

Rusalka says, 'well'

LadyAce says, 'even if you can't use it'

Rusalka says, 'klein mages always seemed kinda silly ot me'

Rusalka scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce says, 'even if you're way below what you need to know it'

Lorenzo pouts at Rusalka.

Huginn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says to Rusalka, 'think fairy tales :) more magic in medieval times than ancient'

Wolfbane says, 'hehe, I love playing my klein mages'

Wolfbane snickers softly.

Lorenzo says, 'hmm, feels a bit odd... not sure why yet'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Wolfbane says, 'industrial bards always seemed the silliest to me'

Sandra giggles.

Wolfbane snickers softly.

Myrthorn yells, 'yo Tweety!'

Rusalka giggles.

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'it's a huge departure from our "classless" mentality. It turns us into a classed mud.'

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'well, that's that for sure'

Sandra says, 'at least a little, yea'

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'so it's right for it to feel funny :) it's not a giant classing, but it's definitely a classing.'

Huginn says to LadyAce, 'no I disagree'

Sandra says, 'sort of a general class type thing. You can still stretch into nonclassed, but you won't get the special skills for classed fighters'

Lorenzo says, 'can we get classes put in our scores'

Lorenzo says, '?'

Wolfbane snickers softly.

Wolfbane says, 'I just hope you guys let us know where our guildmasters are located'

Sandra says, 'no? We still aren't a classed mud. We're rewarding for specialty'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Jen giggles.

Sandra says, 'that's what i mean by 'general class type thing''

Jen says, 'speciality'

LadyAce says to Huginn, 'it used to be that the only thing that determined what you could learn was stats, pracs, hometown. This adds in what you've learned already as an eliminator, not just an allowing factor.'

Jen feels special.

Rusalka nods her agreement with Emrysia.

Huginn says to LadyAce, 'that's true but its still not a class based system'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'it's an additional classing factor, ultimately. One choice, and your destiny is set yet again.'

Huginn says, 'your choices narrow slightly'

Rusalka shakes her head.

Aurelius says, 'wow - this a move toward skilltrees??'

Aurelius throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

LadyAce says, 'well, define class then :) I define it as one choice = all choices narrow.'

Rusalka says, 'they narrow between ultra fighter'

Rusalka says, 'and everything else'

Rusalka says, 'which is cool'

Lorenzo says, 'it seems that if your training choices rule things out permanently, that's some sort of class -- even if it's not the same as "class" in other RPG environments'

Rusalka says, 'we've got two broad classes of folks with it'

Sandra says, 'it eliminates 6 skills. Not an entire section of what that hometown can learn'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says, 'think of it as the difference in cause and create mages'

Sandra says, 'if you learn kere, you can't learn meue'

Huginn says, 'we didn't say you couldn't do herb skills'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'ah'

Rusalka says, 'i misunderstood'

Huginn says, 'as an example'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'sure, that's a classing factor as well.'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Emrysia.

Rusalka says, 'not that most of us ever really noticed'

Rusalka giggles.

Huginn says, 'well if any limiting factor is a classing factor then I can accept that definition.. I just disagree'

Sandra says, 'I think it's more of specializing, but not enough to be considered a class. Classes would have a specific skillset and nothing more'

LadyAce says, 'disagree with what? Don't accept a definition you don't agree with, give me a different one :)'

Wolfbane says, 'so nothing will change my klein mage as far as his fight plus, he just won't be able to learn Iron will'

Huginn says, 'I agree with what sandra said.. you're specializing but that's not the same thing as being in a class'

Sandra says to Wolfbane, 'and the other new skills'

Huginn says, 'a class to me is a very limited scope'

Jen thinks we are heading to a semiclassed system, and will go further if skill trees come in.

Sandra nods her agreement with Huginn.

Wolfbane says to Sandra, 'other new skills?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says, 'there's just a sliding scale sort of thing, where at one end, you're totally classified -- one class's skills unavailable to any other class -- and at the other end, anyone can have any skill. Legend is today closer to the second...'

Sandra says, 'blindside, suckerpunch, wrestling, topple and retreat'

Huginn says, 'i.e if you have a new fight skill, you would be the same as everyone else with that skill'

Lorenzo says, '...end, and this moves the pointer closer to the first'

Wolfbane says to Sandra, 'I cant learn those if I have chant?'

Huginn says, 'but that's not the case'

LadyAce says, 'I think classing can be done to that extreme -- but it's just that, an extreme -- where each class is a set of skills that don't overlap.'

Sandra says to Wolfbane, 'right'

LadyAce says, 'but that's the extreme, not the definition.'

Huginn says, 'all you can say is that everyone with those skills doesn't chant or augment'

Myrthorn rests.

Huginn says, 'everything else is up in the air'

Jen says, 'chant? or use spells?'

Sandra says, 'chant'

Jen says, 'for i know Maloth has chant, but can't chant anything'

Jen giggles.

Huginn says, 'repair, entrance, surgery, etc'

Huginn says, 'all sorts of skills are possible'

Sandra says, 'we're reimbursing skills for some'

Sandra nudges the welcome board over a few inches.

Myrella chuckles politely.

Medusa sighs loudly.

Wolfbane says, 'well I think this should breath some new life into things.'

Sandra hopes so.

Comments on New Skills

Jen says, 'about these new skills.... I found suckerpunch, in my head it gives the idea of a str based kick, yet kick still did more damage, and what is blindside? I found it acted like bs in that you can only use to initiate and the timer. But again kick did more damage.'

Huginn says to Jen, 'the other skills have a chance of doing other effects'

Jen says, 'wrestling seemed to me like bash'

Jen says, 'but bash worked more efficiently'

Sandra says, 'blindside and suckerpunch are skils that initiate combat. If they don't do alot of damage right off, we'll tweak them some. But we want to start low.'

Huginn says to Jen, 'and the other skills are bashed on different stats'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Jen says, 'wrestling i assume is str/con based?'

Jen says, 'topple perhaps dex per'

Sandra says, 'they have pretty logical stat bases'

Jen says, 'but can anyone tell me what a blindside attack actually is?'

Huginn says to Jen, 'hitting them while they aren't looking'

Sandra says to Jen, 'sneaking up and knocking them off guard'

Jen nods solemnly.

Wands and Spellbooks

Myrella says, 'what classifies an item as a wand?'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'the little flag on it that says WAND? ;)'

LadyAce says, 'it's an item that lets you cast spells, essentially'

Myrella says, 'Hmm ok does it have to say wand in the title or not? or just cast spells?'

Rusalka shakes her head.

Sandra says, 'it won't usually say wand in it'

LadyAce says, 'no, it doesn't hafta say wand'

Huginn says, 'well there are staffs and wands but they do the same type of thing'

Rusalka says, 'but it is a wand type'

Myrella says, 'Ok now to part2 then :)'

Sandra nods her agreement with Huginn.

Myrella gets an ancient tome from her cleavage.

LadyAce says, 'the difference between staffs and wands is what, whether you have to hold them? I think so.'

Sandra says, 'can't remember'

Huginn doesn't remember either

Myrella says, 'this tome says I need a wand in my possesion to study, it does not work when I do'

LadyAce says, 'I'm pretty sure.'

Sandra says, 'spellbooks are different'

Sandra says, 'you need a specific item, not just any wand type item'

Sandra says, 'spellbooks tell you the name of the itme you need'

Sandra says, 'that make sense?'

Myrella says, 'how?'

Myrella says, 'it just says I need a wand in my possesion'

Sandra says, 'it says you need a wand, so you need to look for that item. Not that item type'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'if it said you needed a meteorite, you'd get that'

Myrella says, 'Is there any way I can tell what spell a spellbook is for?'

Sandra says, 'hm, I don't think so'

Sandra says, 'we try to make the items they need fit the spell tho'

Myrella says to Sandra, 'So I'm supposed to hunt all over for a mystery wand for a mystery spellbook then?'

Sandra says, 'people probably know what the spellbook is if you ask around. I don't remember if there is a way to tell'

Myrella says to Sandra, 'well logicaly shouldn't there be? if I can cast the spell I should know what it going to help me with..'

Sandra nods her agreement with Myrella.

Sandra says, 'logically, yea'

Sandra says, 'if you don't find out, bug or idea it so that we can work on that'

Rusalka giggles.

LadyAce says, 'looks like this is going towards default Q&A answer #2 :) use bug/typo/idea :)'

LadyAce hugs Myrella.

Sandra giggles.

Myrella says to Sandra, 'I idead it earlier'

Sandra says, 'I don't know much about the spellbook code to answer it clearly'

Sandra says, 'okie'

LadyAce says, '#1 being we already decided to do something like that but it's for trees'

Myrella says, 'trees ah yes the running joke'

Myrella giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'I thought #1 was "no"'

Housing Charges

Myrthorn says, 'anyway of twisting the head builder into loweing the rent in the FIWar area?'

Sandra shakes her head.

Sandra points at Kae.

Myrthorn nudges Sandra.

Myrthorn giggles.

Sandra says, 'kae's area'

Sandra says, 'tho I don't see what's high rent there?'

Myrthorn says, 'aww, but you're the boss'

Kae says, 'huhwha?'

Myrthorn says, '250K for a one room cabin'

Sandra says, 'houses are expensive to buy'

Myrthorn says, 'and 2500 a day, no rent'

Kae says, 'they not one room!'

Myrella says, 'Aww thats cheap!'

Sandra says, 'that's pretty much in line with all houses'

Rush says, 'nice changes'

Jen says, 'yeah with houses...'

Myrthorn says, 'my 2 room hut over near Fort Alaska is less'

Myrthorn giggles.

Sandra said pretty much. =P

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rush says, '2500 for one room no rent?'

Jen says, 'RL if i buy a house, i buy it and dont pay rent, or i rent it and i pay rent but no start up fee'

Myrella says, 'Legend has the highest property taxes I know of, 2500 a day....'

Myrella giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'if you can afford a vacation home, you can afford 250k@2500'

Myrthorn says, 'well, you said you wanted some whining'

Myrthorn giggles.

Sandra giggles.

Lorenzo snickers softly.

Huginn says to Jen, 'actually that's not true'

Sandra says, 'you pay taxes forever'

Sandra nods to herself.

Jen says, 'would there be a way to reduce starting cost, increase rent, and vice versa'

Huginn says, 'and upkeep'

Jen says, 'tax isn't rent on the house'

Sandra says, 'probably not'

Rusalka says, 'i'd rather a higher starting cost'

Rusalka says, 'if anything'

Jen says, 'if you claim it as tax, then tax everyone not just those holding houses'

Rusalka says, 'and a lower rent'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'our rent system is set up the way it is, simply to use up money. That's the short of it.'

Jen nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says to Jen, 'you can start calling it "tax" instead of "rent" if you like...'

Huginn says, 'and I would love in RL to be able to pay off my house in a day'

Myrthorn nods his agreement with Rusalka.

Rusalka says, 'it's more like a mortgage'

Rush says, 'it would be funny if you missed paying rent for a few days instead of poofing your house it started leaking and everying it it got damaged'

Myrthorn snickers softly.

Sandra says, 'there may not be logic in it, but it's what works for a sort of economy for those that use them =P'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'ultimately...it's a way for us to keep houses from being taken up by people who aren't around :P'

Rusalka says, 'yes, it's done a marvelous job of sucking money out'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Rusalka.

Rusalka giggles.

LadyAce says, 'it doesn't have a 100% equivalent IRL.'

Rusalka giggles.

Myrella nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Jen says, 'really want i want is to be able to buy it cheap, pay high rent, buy normal, normal rent, or buy it extremely expensive but have cheaper rent'

Sandra says, 'I don't think that we're pondering doing any changes like that to housing at any time in the future'

Kae cringes in terror.

Rusalka needs to update tudor housing

Reimb Questions

Gho says, 'I'm a little confused about practice reimbs for agrabah.'

Gho says, 'arabians can get reimbs for chant and words?'

Sandra shakes her head.

LadyAce says, 'no'

Gho says, 'that's they way it reads..'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka was confused too

Rusalka scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Myrella says, 'we are stuck as mages firever!'

Myrella hugs herself in front of everyone - what a narcissist!

Sandra says, ''arabians are not eligible''

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'chant -- arabians are not eligible'

Rusalka says, 'gotcha'

Gho says, 'so, tarans are?'

Rusalka giggles.

Myrthorn says, 'hey, I'm proud of it ...'

Sandra says, 'if they don't have augment'

Myrthorn struts proudly.

LadyAce says, 'yes.'

Gho says, 'klien?'

LadyAce says, 'yes.'

Gho says, 'got it.'

Lorenzo says, 'i think the confusion is whether one is eligible for the skill or eligible for the reimb'

Lorenzo says, 'it got me on another one at first'

Myrella says, 'Just chant and augment nulifies the news skills?'

LadyAce says, 'what she has there is like a description of what the reimbing mobs go through, codewise'

Sandra nods her agreement with Myrella.

Myrella says to Sandra, 'but surgeru doesn't?'

Gho tickles Nelson.

Sandra nods her agreement with Myrella.

Myrella says to Sandra, 'hmm interesting'

Nelson frowns.

Gho says, 'surgery doesnt what?'

Myrella says, 'prevent you from leqrng the new skills'

Sandra says, 'nullify the new skills'

Gho says, 'hmm.'

LadyAce says, 'doesn't enter into the discussion over what you can learn or be reimbursed for or any such thing'

Myrella says, 'just my silly london surgeon can lose his bow skills now'

Myrella says, 'and go learn something good like fishing'

Myrella giggles.

Nelson says, 'whooo chant reimbs! I dont have to spit at my fighter who accidently learned chant but has no words'

Nelson cheers wildly!

Any Backstab Changes

Gho says, 'is anything going to be done with backstab to compensate for these changes that hurt snipers so much?'

Sandra shakes her head.

Gho says, 'or snipers in general, not just bs'

Sandra says, 'no plans for it'

Gho says, 'ouch'

Myrella says, 'why do snipers need help? they've lost nothing'

Myrthorn says, 'egh, it's all bs'

Myrthorn falls flat on the ground trying to duck under Kaige's birthday cake.

Sandra says, 'all they've lost is the ability to flee instantly'

Gho says to Myrella, 'they've lost wimpy.'

Gho nods his agreement with Sandra.

Gho says to Sandra, 'that's a huge ability.'

Sandra says, 'not if you know what you're doing ;)'

Myrella says, 'I never use wimpy as sniper dont need it, except occasional in mobkill'

Gho shrugs helplessly.

Nelson says, 'you must die alot in pkill huh?'

Gho says, 'no, snipers don't need it..'

Myrella says, 'win about 60% or so which is about expected'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'with the inspire change, charmy change, and new skills, snipers should be fine for now'

Sandra says, 'same with fighters'

Gho says, 'hmm, I'd have to play with the new skills to reply to that.'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Gho.

LadyAce says, 'I think it's going to take some time for everyone to readjust'

Lorenzo says, 'moral of the story is it doesn't pay to get too attached to one character, or one way of playing 'em, or one pattern of behavior/places to go/people to kill'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'it's alot of changes going in at once'

Rusalka sighs loudly.

Gho says to Sandra, 'fighters do huge damage regardless, and have every opportunity for lotsa hp.'

Rusalka says, 'more like one kind of playing'

Rusalka says, 'if you can change how you play that character'

Myrella says, 'snipers can have lots of hp'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Rusalka.

Myrella shrugs philosophically.

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'I think it's fine to get attached to a char style, but getting in a rut about tactics can be dull and short-lived'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'strategy good, tactics...come and go'

Lorenzo says, 'it's just that some people sort of associate one mode of playing with one character, and nother mode with another char -- they get the variety from multiple characters rather than from playing one char differently'

Lorenzo says, 'gotta avoid that.'

Myrella nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

Gho says to Lorenzo, 'I agree completely, but the flee change hurt snipers imo, that's all i'm saying..'

Reimbs and Eloquence

Nelson says, 'I see eloquence isnt listed as a reimbable skill cause of calm or something'

Nelson says, 'but umm eloquence was offered as reimbable a while ago when moods didnt need the skill right?'

Nelson says, 'so my question is, can people who were like banned or something during that time, get the reimb for eloquence still?'

Nelson begins to twitch nervously.

Sandra says, 'hm, eloquence is there'

LadyAce says, 'if you don't know calm, you can get eloquence back'

Nelson says, 'what about if you do know calm?'

LadyAce says, 'if you know calm, then you're using eloquence for something unrelated to all these changes'

Lorenzo says to Gho, 'i'm not arguing -- i've never played one :)'

Nelson says, 'what if you have play too'

LadyAce says, 'if you know calm, you can't get eloquence back.'

Sandra says, 'without Kaige being here to clarify, I'm gonna go with what's on the post.'

Lorenzo wishes he's traded play for eloquence when he had the chance.

Lorenzo sniffles quietly.

Nelson says, 'well then I have a sorta follow up, how is it handled about reimbursing skills for players who under no circumstances could have been here during the time given to reimburse the skill?'

Sandra says, 'if they were banned?'

Sandra says, 'tough shit'

Nelson says, 'like if I was banned, or if someone had a level 2 archived version of my character and I couldnt get him unpurged for example'

Wolfbane blinks.

Sandra says, 'being banned doesn't give an excuse, for me ;) That person caused their ban. they miss all that happened during that time'

LadyAce says, 'we're not going to cut special deals for people who were gone because of a punishment.'

LadyAce says, 'and if the char was lev 2, they could've been remade with little trouble.'

Nelson says, 'what about people who were gone cause they got thier hands cut off'

Nelson says, 'or something'

Lorenzo blinks.

Gho chortles at Nelson's feeble witticism.

Nelson says, 'some spectacular thing non admin based that kept them from being here'

Myrthorn giggles.

LadyAce says, 'unfortunate but part of life, we don't make an exception for it.'

Nelson mutters under his breath.

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Lorenzo says to Nelson, 'you've already given it up -- nobody's gonna be fooled now'

Sandra giggles.

Nelson says, 'given what up?'

Nelson peers around intently.

Nelson says to Lorenzo, 'my situation was the second one, some jerk has my mages name and I cant unpurge him anytime in the forseeable future'

Lorenzo says to Nelson, 'the real motivation when you claim that your hands were cut off :P'

Nelson mutters under his breath.

LadyAce says, 'In the future, you could just remake the name rather than have it unpurged, if the name springs free'

Gho says to LadyAce, 'i think the char was high level..'

LadyAce says, 'well, if it's important enough...can remake. Or just build a new char.'

Myrella says, 'then you get a nice immort to save your purged char'

Per Changes and Fighters

Nelson says, 'oh right, I read the log at the last QnA and it said the perc reqs for skills would be low enough to lose hunt but not low enough to be rediculous'

Nelson says, 'is that true for the new skills too? cause I got a 24 perc guy from london and he couldnt use any of the new 5'

Sandra says, 'lemme put it this way'

Sandra says, 'the new skills require some of each stat'

Nelson says, 'I know seifer with 14 perc lost alllll his skills on april fools..'

Gho says to Nelson, 'spirit, i knew it!'

Huginn laughs.

Nelson says, 'damn no topple tommorow'

Nelson holds his head down and mourns the dead.

Varnel comforts Nelson.

Gho says, 'I'm kinda interested in retreat.'

Sandra says, 'all of the changes we brought up last week will be coming next week'

Lorenzo whimpers softly.

More on Reimbs

Gho says, 'can we reimb now?'

Sandra shakes her head.

Sandra says, 'next week'

Gho nods solemnly.

Nelson says, 'augment isnt reimbable but chant and words for everyone but agrabababians is right?'

Nelson peers at himself myopically.

Gho nods his agreement with Nelson.

Sandra says, 'right'

Gho says, 'I don't see what augment has to do with spells, but hey ;)'

Lorenzo says to Gho, 'not with spells, cause it displaces iron will'

Gho says, 'unless they just plain don't want druids to have these skills.'

Nelson says, 'is brew going to affect the new skills at all?'

Sandra says to Gho, 'that'd be it'

Gho says to Sandra, 'so augment voids the new skills, the same way as chant?'

Huginn nods his agreement with Gho.

Sandra nods solemnly.

Gho wrinkles his nose with distaste.

Nelson comforts Gho.

Gho says, 'and i had such great ideas :p'

Sandra says, 'so did we, that's why we did what we did ;)'

Gho grins evilly at Sandra.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sandra says, 'originally'

Sandra says, 'Tarans weren't going to get them at all'

Nelson says, 'but then you guys decided to be nice to those crazy taran nonchanting nonhealing fighters!'

Nelson says, 'like umm'

Nelson says, 'maloth'

Gho says, 'well, I don't honestly see a need for anything but a druid from tara nowdays anyway.'

Gho says, 'with lima being what it is.'

Jen sighs loudly.

Gho says, 'lima's going to be an interesting starting town now.'

Myrthorn smiles happily.

Sandra nods her agreement with Gho.

Lorenzo says to Gho, 'it used to be interesting before :P'

Gho says to Lorenzo, 'for a pure fighter, maybe..'

Lorenzo shakes his head in disagreement with Gho.

Gho says to Lorenzo, 'hasn't been worth starting in lima since parry.'

Lorenzo says to Gho, 'eh. ok.'

Sandra says, 'I haven't made a char from lima since snipe went in ;)'

Gho says, 'well, in MY opinion.'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Gho.

Lorenzo smiles at Gho.

Sandra says, 'tho the entrance bug was fun'

Gho says, 'bad healers, not full druids, not full mages'

Gho says, 'no adv parry.'

Gho says, 'lima got screwed, glad to see it getting something ;)'

Fury waves happily.

LadyAce waves happily.

Myrthorn gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Sandra waves happily.

Lorenzo says, 'bye'

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Can we get a preview on the skill "retreat"? Is that like the old wimpy? Where you can flee after getting hit no matter what skill lag you are affected with?

We had all the new skills in for April Fool's Day. But no, it will NOT be what the old wimpy used to be like. It is a more "controlled" retreat where you pick a direction to leave, instead of fleeing blindly in panic.

o I know that you can add a color to a regular item, say golden torc, but what happen when you DTed the item? Do you lose your add a color coupon?

Your coupon is taken by the immortal doing the string when it is done. Since it is done using the STRING command to add the color, it will behave like any other string that gets randomly tossed out when it meets up with the DT.

o There's a rumor doppels will lose the ability to shoot. Either I missed out on that memo, or it's the usual rumor mill. Verify/dismiss?

Etheric archers will be the only charmies that will have the ability to shoot.

o Why do I keep getting backlash when I try to stun? Even when I have high mind, and I'm doing it on a weaker mind victim, ie my doppel?

Sounds like your mind levels are too similar when you fail to stun them.

o If I am using an item that casts a spell, should I not have access to the helpfile about that spell?

You'll have to experiment or seek guidance from a mage you trust. We do want to get some general information help files for various affects and spells, but that's still a ways off from completion and will never be as detailed as the information a mage will have access to.

o I hate the fact that when someone merely slashes you in combat, does a total of 10 points of damage out of 511, your eq still gets damaged?

You gear absorbed most of that hit. Think of how messed up you'd be if it wasn't there to take the hit for you.

o Typo: ...has friends who would place a dagger in your back as soon as (they) look at you.

Actually, the saying goes " as soon as look at you" meaning they'd readily do harm to you without pausing to dwell on the consequences.

o There should be a warning when your close to an alignment change.

You can get your current alignment added to your prompt. Check out HELP PROMPT to see how to add it to yours.

o Otters should produce a pelt when skinned. Also should be useable for the fur trader quest. The Russians hunted sea otters almost to extinction along the west coast.

Cheyla says: SEA otters, yes, not the river otters, and the sea otters DO produce furs. Not ALL animals are going to produce custom furs, that's WAY too many vnums dedicated to that. The animals in her areas that were intended to produce furs and hides do.

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