March 20th, 2003

Paralyze Spell for Mages?

Heart says, 'I got a question regarding the new upcoming changes'

Heart says, 'From what I have heard, inspire/incite will be Lima only in the near future, will then when that is imp, do create get paralyze?'

Sandra says, 'in the next 2 weeks, and no'

Heart says, 'is paralyze spell being work on or even look at?'

Kaige says, 'Nope'

Sandra says, 'I don't think it will ever be imp'd'

Heart says, 'hmm,'

Hatred says, 'so why not remove it from the spellbook then?'

Sandra says, 'good question :)'

Heart says, 'I'm still worry that I won't be able to keep druid/cause mages still in pkill'

Kaige says, 'because until we have a replacement for it, it really mucks up everything if you just pull a spell like that. You want everything past it to shift learn levels?'

Sandra says, 'I"m sorry, but if you're a create mage, that doesn't really bother me any ;)'

Heart says, 'aww, I'm heart-broken'

Sandra giggles.

Heart sulks in the corner.

LadyAce says, 'Does that cover the question? Or did you have a follow-up?'

Hatred says, 'no thanks, mages period are too powerful now'

Heart says, 'I'm done, I will just hide in no flee room with the changes go in'

Heart giggles.

Mages to Lose Exper Fight Skills?

Hatred says, 'I would like the discuss a change that has been thrown around of late, not sure who came up with it but I really thought it made sense and wanted to see what you immortals thought here at Q&A'

Hatred says, 'it was that 3c mages would loose expert fight styles'

Myrella smirks.

Herbert cringes in terror.

Herbert says, 'i only bludgeon hard as it is!'

Herbert sniffs sadly.

LadyAce says, 'we usually talk about that in the context of skill trees'

Sandra says, 'that's something that we had talked about in the past. But I don't know of any soonish plans for it?'

Hatred says, 'since they have so much more to learn, it just amkes sense that they should not be as good fighters as the rest are'

Herbert says, 'id rather they made nonmages better than they already are than make mages weaker to achieve the same thing..'

Hatred says, 'well, since there have been so many changes to balance things out, I just thought this was a good time to really start balancing things'

Herbert throws a tiny brass coin in a jar.

Kaige nods her agreement with Herbert.

LadyAce says, 'the idea there is that when we have a bunch of skills to distribute out, we can make a system where people can be effective without having every single skill overlap between mages and fighter....except for magic :)'

LadyAce says, 'it's a huge, huge change.'

Sandra says, 'we do have some other changes coming. Not to make mages weaker tho'

LadyAce says to Herbert, 'well, the idea is, we boost those skills and then make it so that people cant be super mages and super fighters like they can now'

Herbert nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Herbert says, 'that i like..'

Hatred says, 'ok, but to throw out skilltrees, your throwing out something that has become to the people here, a myth'

LadyAce says, 'the change you're talking about isn't really possible without them.'

Emrysia believes in skilltrees.

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Emrysia nods to herself.

Sandra says, 'it's part of a HUGE overhaul'

Sandra says, 'that requires more skills. Like all of them ;)'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Hatred says, 'ok, but this huge overhaul is not being worked on or planned for any time in the forseeable future'

Sandra says, 'fighters will be happy soon tho. Promise'

Herbert beams at Sandra delightedly.

Herbert says, 'might play mine one day then'

Herbert chortles with amusement.

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce doesn't know about these upcoming changes.

Hatred says, 'well, to continue on, with the changes to flee, inspire and dip, mages are still way on top in comparitiviness to the balance of it all, if a change like that cant be imp'd, any thoughts to anything else'

Sandra says, 'mages took a hit with the loss of inspire. Bow users took a hit with the loss of dip. I think the loss of inspire hurts mages quite a bit more than the loss of dip, when a mob is going to taint things'

Musique nods solemnly.

Musique says, 'lots of mages used inspire for pkill'

Krynn says, 'can i have a mob that follows me to incite people?'

Sandra says, 'the only time a mage can get a mob to inspire is when it's inspiring them ;)'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Krynn's head.

LadyAce says, 'Sandra's also hinting at some future changes that might very well serve the purposes you're describing.'

Hatred says, 'the loss of inspire really does little to mages beyond pkill, and there are still many ways to do the same thing, im talking in general'

LadyAce says, 'so stay tuned :)'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Will Taint Mob Be Limited Use?

Musique says, 'I have a question about the taint mob'

Musique says, 'will it have limits like lotus and will it be immortal or no?'

Sandra says, 'well, dunno that one yet. Sorry'

Musique nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'I don't even know where it'll go yet :)'

Musique smiles happily.

Musique giggles.

Musique nods solemnly.

Darwin says, 'SL?'

Hatred hopes its a mort so she can sit around and kill it all day

Musique sighs loudly.

Sandra says, 'most likely it won't be immortal tho. I don't like that too much'

Musique nods solemnly.

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'but then again, if I make it...'

Musique says, 'just wondering because I know of few bow users'

Haley laughs.

Sandra says, 'you may wish it was immortal ;)'

Darwin says, 'it'll probably be an expert bowman with tons of tainted arrows'

Musique says, 'and if it is too hard there were be less'

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'I doubt it'll be difficult to use.'

Musique says, 'yeah but if he or she is dead all the time'

Musique says, 'that'd be too hard for a lot of people'

Musique giggles.

Sandra says, 'not necessarily. I should add something about taint tho'

Musique smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'taint won't taint quivers'

Musique says, 'huh?'

Sandra says, 'it will taint arrows. You know the new quivers we put in a while back?'

Musique says, 'nope'

Musique says, 'it only taints one arrmow?'

Musique says, 'arrow even'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Musique sighs loudly.

Sandra says, 'one at a time, yea'

Sandra says, 'but'

Musique says, 'they're permenant?'

Sandra says, 'the effects on the arrow are permanent until you use the arrow'

Musique giggles.

Musique says, 'yeah that makes it harder'

Mavado says to Sandra, 'you guys are so after snipers, I don't get it.'

Musique says, 'makes me wonder about staying a bow user :)'

Darwin has a bowman and is very curious.

Darwin beams delightedly.

Sandra says, 'no we aren't. We put those quivers in a while back and at the time also said that they will be the ones to use'

Sandra says, 'so it wasn't a surprise ;)'

Alexey says, 'with all the negative changes to snipers, what are you doing to compensate?'

Hatred says, 'nothing'

Mavado laughs.

Musique says, 'taking away inspire and dip'

Sandra says, 'there are some things going in within the next'

Sandra looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'month or two'

Sandra says, 'but I won't say what those are yet'

Musique says, 'why so secretive?'

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'coz they aren't fleshed out completely, and I don't want to give the wrong information'

Musique says, 'okay'

Sandra says, 'for non mage/druids'

Mavado says, 'well, it needs to help dex period, not just snipers, imo.'

Alexey says, 'i mean snipers specifically'

How Many Spellbooks Available?

Myrella says, 'Umm I was wondering how many different spellbooks for lowering cast levels are out there'

Sandra looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'count the newest spells'

Sandra says, 'that's all :)'

Myrella says, 'thats what I was afraid of'

LadyAce says, 'they're only in for the brand new stuff, not the old ones'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Myrella sighs at herself. What a sorry sight.

Sandra says, 'you may see some rudh spell spellbooks in the future.'

Darwin says, 'how low can a cast level get? To the min level you can learn those specific words?'

Sandra says, 'but you probably won't see any of the original spells get spellbooks'

Myrella says, 'well I need a bit more than that all my cast levels suck :P'

Kaige nods her agreement with Darwin.

Bug Vs Feature?

Alexey says, 'what steps do you take to determine what is a bug and what is a feature exactly?'

Sandra says, 'depends on the situation?'

Kaige says, 'if it's intended or not?'

LadyAce says, 'we usually have a pretty good sense of whether we meant something to be how it is'

Alexey says, 'why was wimpy not changed about hrm 7 years ago?'

Kaige says, 'like people wanted things not to decay in bags to be a feature, but it was a bug.'

Kaige says to Alexey, 'because it wasn't FOUND until January?'

Sandra says, 'coz we didn't look at the code closely. Things DO get missed. Even for 9 years =P'

Alexey says, 'its been completely obvious for years now :P'

Kaige says, 'it's been completely obvious there was a problem. but not where or how to fix it.'

Alexey says, 'ohhh'

Alexey says, 'i see'

Myrella says, 'any bug that last 6 years and doesn't crash the mud is now a feature or should be'

Alexey says, 'ok i gotcha! :)'

Herbert says, 'ok is flavoring a chalice a feature or a bug?'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'feature'

Sandra says, 'the chalice was changed for that'

Herbert says, 'niiiice, so i can do the cure light flavor thing and not feel bad'

Herbert grins evilly.

Musique says, 'don't do it on a old chalice though *scuffle* found that out the hard way'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra nods her agreement with Musique.

Kaige says, 'likewise, being able to use furniture that can't be moved once you set it down as a bag.. was definitely not intended when we gave them to shopkeepers to sell for housing... BUG not FEATURE'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Herbert says, 'cure light might be wussy but when you get it for free every few ticks ya cant complain'

Myrella says, 'but it didnt last 6 years :)'

Sandra says, 'make sure to get rid of furniture you're carrying! Lost items won't be reimbursed =P'

Herbert bursts into tears.

Herbert says, 'tannenbaums ruled'

Alexey nods his agreement with Herbert.

Herbert ducks to the ground.

Alexey says, 'i miss them :P'

Sandra giggles.

Herbert says, 'i haven't had anything that interesting in years anyway and it all makes sense anyway'

Inspire: Weaken Mages or Boost Limans?

Alexey says, 'what is your intent for the inspire change, is it to reduce mages power, or to increase limans?'

Sandra says, 'both'

Kaige says, 'basically, both'

Alexey nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'lord knows Limans needed it'

Sandra nods her agreement with Herbert.

Alexey says, 'yea i agree'

Darwin says, 'what does inspire have to do with Limans?'

Onizuka says, 'inspire is what, totally being yanked except for limans?'

Sandra says, 'bard skill'

Herbert says, 'oh, will londoners still lose inspire?'

Krynn says, 'bard skill'

Sandra nods her agreement with Onizuka.

Sandra nods her agreement with Herbert.

Darwin says, 'oh, they'll be the only ones to use it?'

Darwin says, 'aah..'

Sandra says, 'watch out for those fighting liman surgeon bards! ;)'

Alexey says to Sandra, 'working on my con inspiring brewing liman atm :P'

Sandra cheers for Alexey - huzzah!

Alexey says to Sandra, 'he will be all powerful :P'

Emrysia says, 'when inspire goes only to limans will old characters get a skill reimbursement for inspire?'

Sandra says, 'with inspire! ;)'

Sandra says, 'yes'

Emrysia smiles happily.

Herbert says, 'sweeeeeet I'll be able to learn sing!'

Sandra says, 'and probably play/eloquence, right Kaige?'

Herbert cheers wildly!

Sandra isn't sure on that one.

Kaige says to Sandra, 'not sure yet'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

New Spells Planned?

Darwin says, 'are there any new spells planned? Just out of general curiosity'

Sandra says, 'no new spells planned'

Sandra says, 'mages have enough ;)'

Darwin giggles.

Darwin says, 'true dat'

Darwin says, 'oh..'

Onizuka says, 'I can't create a chair for my butt to sit on, till then is no enough!'

Onizuka stares off into space.

LadyAce says, 'shipbuilding should be carpentry :)'

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Sandra says, 'that'd be cool'

Kaige says, 'not really. just because you can build furniture doesn't mean it'll float'

Onizuka laughs.

Sandra says, 'my chair'll float! But I bought that'

Onizuka says, 'boat chairs'

Fix for Soloing Group Areas?

Darwin says, 'if it was "frowned upon" that people could take out too big mobs (with wimpy or otherwise)...'

Darwin says, 'what are your thoughts about 2 mages taking out SL?'

Krynn says to Darwin, '1 mage'

Darwin says, 'and similar accomplishments'

Herbert says, 'good call'

Musique says, 'that's always fun :)'

Alexey says, 'or 1, since heart is in there soloing it atm'

Musique giggles.

Darwin nods his agreement with Krynn.

Kaige says to Darwin, 'code changes and area changes are two radically different beasts'

Darwin says, 'make that one mage'

Sandra says, 'Don't like it much'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Darwin nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'I dunno, it's not the worst thing in the world if it takes *a lot of time*'

Onizuka says, 'it's usually a mage and a hitter anyways'

Darwin says, 'indeed, but the problem rather lies with the power of mages'

Kaige says, 'the code is MUCH less territorial than the areas...'

Alexey says, 'i think its more under the code dept since they can't only solo group areas, they can solo every mob in the mud basically'

Herbert says, 'need a disruption area flag that area slays charmies that are in it every few ticks'

Herbert snickers softly.

Darwin nods his agreement with Alexey.

Musique says, 'have you ever tried to level a little mage??'

Musique giggles.

Musique faints.

Darwin says, 'unless builders go the extra mile to stop it'

Herbert nods his agreement with Musique.

Kaige says, 'the code doesn't know where a group area is.'

Herbert says, 'too many of them unfortunately'

Darwin says to Musique, 'I am a little mage'

Musique says, 'it's near impossible without any skills'

Musique says, 'takes forever'

Sandra says, 'it falls under both. But it's the builder that defines the area and mobs, in the end'

Sandra says, 'so it's more a builder thing'

Kaige says, 'and when the updates get done.'

Krynn says, 'yeah, mages are powerful at high levels, but trying to get them to that level is horrible, and once you hit level 50 with them, there's not much to do except pk and amass xp you really don't need'

Musique says, 'but once they get bigger, it's kinda a perk that its eaiser from then on'

Onizuka nods his agreement with Krynn.

Musique says, 'like warriors level quickly when small'

Musique says, 'I think it's semi-balanced say one at both end'

Krynn says, 'last time i checked, you didn't need to do an elaborate multi-area quest to get sniper'

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Musique nods his agreement with Krynn.

Musique says, 'I hear lots of complaining about mages'

Alexey says, 'last time i checked it only took me 10 mins or so to get rudh :P besides waiting for mobs'

Musique says, 'but they're alot of work till they get big'

Sandra says, 'personally, I'd like to hurt create mages in a bad way. but right now I don't have a proposal that's fair, to even consider bringing it up ;)'

Darwin cheers for Sandra - huzzah!

Lorenzo sniffs sadly at Sandra.

Lorenzo says to Sandra, 'not all of us, I hope'

Herbert says, 'just make all of SL/PD/AT/KZ nonsummon areas easy'

Krynn says to Herbert, 'you could, but there is a downside'

Krynn says to Herbert, 'letting a mage camp sl for hours keeps them out of xp areas non-mages run in'

Lorenzo says, 'oh yeah? I used to do old vid in 3 levels!'

Kaige says to Herbert, 'can't make it a nosummon area atm without making all magic go poof.'

Herbert winces.

Krynn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Musique says, 'I'm just saying mages maybe nice when they're big'

Sandra says, 'if we come up with a suitable way to alter the power of creates, we'll definately work on it'

Musique says, 'but when they're small it takes alot of work'

Herbert says, 'ok back to my charmie slaying theory then, just have an area flag that slays all charmies within the rooms with that flag periodically'

Herbert snickers softly.

Krynn says, 'make it a permanent extreme thunderstorm in sl to kill everything but water naiads?'

Onizuka laughs.

Herbert says to Krynn, 'it would suit its atmosphere too, spoooky'

Herbert snickers softly.

Darwin says to Krynn, 'that's a pretty nifty idea'

Kaige complains, 'I didn't learn WATER! It's NOT FAIR!!!'

Musique smiles happily.

Sandra snickers softly.

Darwin giggles.

Kaige can hear it now.

Alexey says, 'ppl are always going to have something to complain about'

Object Affects & Going OOC?

Onizuka says, 'yeah okay umm I forgot my actual question but here is something annoying that happened while trying to get here'

Onizuka pokes dark colored robes.

Onizuka says, 'they supposed to be perma sneak? but after I fight sneak goes away, but when trying to get ooc or whatever, it says im still sneaking'

Sandra says, 'yea, it's funky'

Onizuka says, 'so uh, there was a question there, but it looks like I forgot that too'

LadyAce says, 'affs on eq are kinda freaky like that'

Onizuka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'remove the eq and rewear it to reset it'

Onizuka nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'makin em tools would be better there'

Herbert says, 'but tools are generally held i guess...'

Onizuka says, 'thats all I guess'

Onizuka staggers around the room, bumping into walls.

Herbert says, 'er wands/tools whatever theyre called heheh'

Is Inspire only Bard Skill Moving?

Musique says, 'uhhh, I don't want to be difficult, but, why is inspire the only bard skill being moved?'

Musique giggles.

Musique scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Musique says, 'or removed I guess'

Musique says, 'because I heard that inspire is a bard skill'

Musique says, 'and they're making bards from lima or something?'

Lorenzo sighs loudly.

Sandra says, 'London doesn't need the boost'

Kaige says, 'we've always had bards from lima.'

Lorenzo bursts into tears.

Musique nods solemnly.

Musique says, 'but lullaby stays in london?'

Musique says, 'isn't that kind of a bard skill?'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Emrysia shows her approval by clapping her hands together.

Emrysia says, 'hmm?'

Emrysia ponders her own existence - better keep an eye on her.

Herbert says, 'London just needs to become more specific, maybe throw San Frans back in as a hometown for snipers and make london just scientists...'

Musique nods solemnly.

Musique says, 'and move lullaby to lima!'

Musique ducks to the ground.

Herbert says, 'not that id ever suggest such a thing to justify my obsession with scientist/doctor chars'

Sandra says, 'lullaby is in lima'

Musique nods solemnly.

Musique says, 'but london people can still learn it *shrug*'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'they're asking ONLY in lima... as in pull it from london too.'

Sandra says, 'oh'

Kaige says, 'basically it's a balance question.'

Herbert says, 'nobody uses Lullaby anyway, its not good enough'

Onizuka says, 'leave those poor londoners alone, not like they have it as good as arabians or something'

Musique giggles.

Kaige says, 'or tarans'

Onizuka says, 'lets rip bow skills from ancient and give it just to lima, so I can laugh at all the poetry clones!'

Onizuka laughs.

Improvements for Twohanded Weapons?

Musique says, 'I read something on the discussion board about 2 handed weapons being better than 1 handed'

Sandra raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Musique says, 'I guess wouldn't that make sense since they're 2 handed so that takes away from 1 hand'

Musique says, 'I dunno I guess'

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Musique says, 'I guess more people would use them because once again nobody uses 2 handed weapons'

Sandra says, 'we have had some discussion about 2 handed weapons. But nothing has been set in stone yet. We do want to make them slightly better. Just dunno quite how'

Musique says, 'like bows'

Sandra says, 'well'

Sandra says, 'if you aren't using bows, it's your own fault ;)'

Musique giggles.

Musique says, 'I'm gonna'

Musique says, 'but I'm from tara'

Musique sighs loudly.

Musique giggles.

Sandra giggles.

Why Not Taint for London?

Onizuka says, 'first is, couldnt dip be part of london and lima only? since london doesnt exactly have the world going for it as is...? why just lima? and follow up to that, can we rip bows from everywhere but lima then?'

Musique says, 'london has 2 classes'

Musique shrugs helplessly.

Onizuka says, 'if london doesn't get dip that is'

Onizuka says, 'why let any jerks have bows, basically.'

Onizuka says, 'if only lima gets taint, can only lima get deadeye and archer and stuff'

Onizuka says, 'or dip for london too :P'

Herbert says, 'personally id love that, no more skanky augmenting bow shooting 2c freakos'

Onizuka says, 'thats preferable :p'

Musique says, 'why is everybody against a charactor that can do more than one thing?'

Sandra says, 'sory I missed it'

Onizuka nods his agreement with Herbert.

Kaige says, 'well, I have a problem with that on the historical side. The way we rationalized taint being there and not london was you had to have a bit of herbal affinity to know which would work well and how to store them and all.. which londoners don't have'

Herbert says, 'hahaha im not, most of my characters are sub-sub-subclass things, i just dont like bow users they're freakish'

Onizuka says, 'i'd prefer london kept dip too since tarans already have a buncha cool stuff over them like augment and magic, but if they cant, spite is my reasoning for screwing everyone on bows :P'

Onizuka bonks Musique on the head!

LadyAce says, 'Our general philosophy is that it's ok to be multi-function, but it should cost you -- each of those functions shouldn't be as good as a specialty'

Kaige says, 'problem with ripping bows from everywhere.. kinda like ripping theives from everywhere'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Herbert says, 'you DID rip thieves from everywhere :p'

Musique sighs loudly.

Herbert says, 'steal is completely worthless nowadays'

Kaige peers at Herbert, looking him up and down.

Kaige says, 'hardly'

Kaige says, 'thives != snipers'

Herbert says, 'if you cant steal an item from someone and use it why bother'

Kaige says to Herbert, 'well, my thief would agree with you there.'

Herbert says, 'if i steal a coupon or prize string i should be allowed to spend it'

Sandra says, 'hey, blame the whiny pkillers for the steal change ;P'

Herbert snickers softly.

Onizuka says, 'imms wont cash stolen coupoons?'

Krynn says to Herbert, 'you used to be able to'

Herbert says to Krynn, 'yeah i know'

Krynn says to Herbert, 'once i stole 4 coupons from khan =P'

Herbert says, 'and ya cant destroy stolen eq in any way anymore, cept maybe feeding it to boggles or something'

Herbert says, 'but mostly steal is just for annoying people now, stealing dert bags, chalices, vials stuff like that'

LadyAce says, 'the idea is to create an interaction, a capacity for recovery'

Herbert says, 'oh and for breaking trans mobs'

Herbert snickers softly.

Herbert says, 'i dont do that, but it seems fairly common'

LadyAce says, 'instead of just ha-ha, I junked your corpse ...yech'

Onizuka says, 'yeah I miss being able to steal someones chalice use it and return it, if they refused to make a chalice giving trig, when did that change anyways?'

Kaige says to Onizuka, 'when they started keeping them in bags?'

Kaige shrugs helplessly.

Onizuka laughs.

Onizuka says, 'I couldnt fill something if I didnt own it the other day'

Herbert says, 'you can still use most useable items the ownership just got a bit harsher'

Rewording Strings?

Myrella says, 'So if I was wanna reword a string what do I need?'

LadyAce says, 'it's counted the same as a new string, unless you're fixing a typo or grammar issue'

Myrella says, 'well reword and spelling fix'

Myrella shrugs philosophically.

LadyAce says, 'spelling fix is fine, reword would take a coupon'

Onizuka says, 'yeah I need some of those too...4 letter changes that arent typos...'

Myrella says, 'ok to change 1 word takes what then?'

Myrella says, 'just a normal coupon?'

LadyAce says, 'whatever the string is -- if it's color, takes color, etc'

Onizuka says, 'there should be adda-word coupons !'

Musique nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'the only time we change one word in non-typo situations is when it's a gender reference'

Myrella says, 'so my mutli string needs a mutli colour?'

LadyAce says, 'yes'

Myrella goes ACK TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPTTTTTT!

Musique comforts Myrella.

Myrella says, 'jeez may as well just junk it then'

LadyAce says, 'or give it away!'

Myrella shakes her head.

Myrella says, 'I'd rather junk it'

Myrella shrugs philosophically.

LadyAce nods solemnly.

LadyAce wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Myrella says, 'or use a color and a add-a color'

Myrella looks up into the sky and ponders.

Onizuka says, 'im tellin you guys we need adda word coupons, be wonderful'

Onizuka nods to himself.

Myrella chuckles politely.

Reimbs for Inspire?

Lorenzo says, 'k, i just wanted to make sure I understood the upcoming section -- "learnable only by Limans" means that non-Limans will unlearn? or just that non-limans who don't know can't?'

LadyAce says, 'if you aren't liman and know it, you'll be able to get it removed and reimb'd'

Kaige says, 'it'll be both. you won't qualify if you're not from lima, and you will be able to go to the ooc and unlearn the skill(s) set up'

Lorenzo whimpers softly.

Higher Spirit Reqs for Augment?

Herbert says, 'augment, wasnt there discussion over it needing higher spirit ages ago, whatever happened to that concept? im in the mood fer all this overhaul, the sooner its all done the sooner we can get comfy again hehehehe'

Herbert says, 'on discussion about a year ago people were throwing about numbers like 80spi to augment etc to stop 'battle druids' yadda yadda'

Herbert says, 'it actually scared a few people enough that they changed eq in advance to fit the 80..'

Herbert hides his 80spi dex druid.

Myrella says, 'whats wrong with a battle druid?'

Musique nods his agreement with Myrella.

LadyAce doesn't have an answer to the question :/

Herbert says, 'nothing in my opinion, but lots of people were bleating about it awhile ago'

Musique hopes it doesn't change

Myrella says, 'flavour of the day :P'

Kaige says, 'I remember the discussion, but I don't think anything was decided or planned about it.'

Musique says, 'that would make my char completly obsolete'

Kaige nods her agreement with Myrella.

Herbert says, 'exactly, no one complains about em now'

Musique nods to himself.

Myrella says, 'now its wimpy :P'

Myrella says, 'i want my wimpy back'

Myrella giggles.

Herbert says, 'create mages and druids used to get flamed constantly hehe'

Kaige says, 'clear is your friend if you pretype skills in.'

Myrella says, 'I dont I just dont like standing around to be hit be evil nasty specials'

Myrella says, 'I think the Mugger complained I stun/wimpy fleed him too much'

Myrella grumbles.

Alignment Requirement for Taint?

Lorenzo says, 'another one aout the upcoming changes -- with the change to dip, will the requirements on poison remain?'

LadyAce doesn't know.

Kaige says to Lorenzo, 'I wish Huginn was here, cause that's one of the ones I can't recall.'

Lorenzo nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'and I remember arguing that poisoning is way too prevalent throughout history to limit it only to lima.'

Lorenzo says, 'it just seems particularly bad to me if dipping requires you-know-what'

Kaige says, 'taint is a subcommand of poisoning tho'

Lorenzo says, 'i don't know anything about taint, my chars only know dip :)'

Lorenzo looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says to Lorenzo, 'EVERYONE has dip. not a skill, no cost, nothing.'

Kaige says, 'taint is what dip will become and it will be a subcommand of the poisoning skill.'

Lorenzo says, 'well, ok -- but that still means that perofrming that particualr action will require that particular quality on the part of the performer...'

Herbert says, 'poisoning was prevalent through all history really, the Thalium poisoner of England, Strychnine poisoning was common as all hell..'

Kaige says, 'of being from lima? yes'

LadyAce says, 'can hit up a mob or make a purchase, no need for skill necessarily'

Kaige says, 'If you mean the align requirement on poisoning, then yes too.'

Turn Undead/Protection from Evil?

Kaige would gladly go sleep, that is if the monsters would let her.

Emrysia wrinkles her nose at Kaige.

Herbert says, 'cast turn undead Kaige!'

Herbert says, 'it doesnt do much but lord it does LOOK fancy'

Herbert grins evilly.

Kaige chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'but they're not undead..'

Kaige says, 'protection from evil?'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Herbert says, 'oh, just regular monsters, about 2 feet tall and scary'

Herbert says, 'its not implemented'

Herbert ducks to the ground.

Kaige says, 'closer to 3' these days'

Kaige says, 'well, the spell is, but the affect isn't if that makes ANY sense.'

Kaige giggles.

Herbert says, 'what does it DO out of curiosity'

Kaige says, 'well, that's the problem.. that's the part that's not implemented'

Herbert stifles a laugh as he regards the situation at hand.

Herbert says, 'if a person has evil align they do less damage to you was about all i could think of, but that would be wierd'

LadyAce says, 'protection from influence might be interesting, like a way to keep your align from being changed by others'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'that would be REAL cool actually'

LadyAce says, 'so if good, it's prot from evil...if yer evil, prot from good'

LadyAce says, 'Well, it looks like we're done :)'

LadyAce says, 'thanks for coming, folks!'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige smiles happily.

Herbert stretches, you hear several loud snaps - maybe a massage would help?

Emrysia looks too lazy to move.

Herbert says, 'its just like a sleepover, only geeky!'

Herbert nods to himself.

Lacey giggles.

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce waves happily.

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Can I mundane a flaming sword, dagger of ice or staff of light?

No. The spells associated with these are considered "special bonuses". Also, you can't easily hand them over, and it would require a high level immort doing all sorts of command acrobatics to do so. Likewise, putting a mundane on one of them would eventually be a waste of a coupon because they are timed.

o Is it true that is a group with more than ten people go to PD, they get extra XP bonus?

From a quick glance at the code, it looks like they'll actually get less.

o When you put an item in a container, does it default to the one you are wearing? Or should I be worry about accidentally putting my stuff in a same-keyworded container lying on the ground.

PUT defaults to the one you are wearing/carrying, if it fails to find one, it will then search the room.

o Root is in my all skills yet i need another skill to get it. If it says I can learn it, I SHOULD be able to learn it.

The mob you are trying to learn a skill from is the final authority on what you actually need to obtain the skill. Some teachers require different things from you in order to teach you the skill; knowledge of other skills may be one of their requirements. Also, there is currently no way in the code to require alignment or knowledge of (or ignorance of) other skills to see if you "qualify" in allskills.

o "A small bundle of golden straws has been dropped here." It would be more gramatically correct if you replace has with have, making it "A small bundle of golden straws have been dropped here"

Actually, it is correct as is: A bundle (singular subject) has (singular verb) been dropped here.

o The boucaniers on turtle island hit pretty darn hard and are a perfect match for me. With 100 dex and -100 ac and hitting all my specials, they still did 100 damage to me. Would be nice if would be nice if they were worth it for what they do!

They only did 100 hp damage to you and they're a perfect match? Sounds like you outmatched them! Sounds like you got rewarded well for your effort in what claimed to be a 50/50 outcome.

o I'm buying mail sacks at this merchant here, when I buy one or a couple or what not, my weight carried goes down :)

This happens when the amount of money you're spending counted for more weight than the objects you purchased.

o Why can't I entrance people with just the sing skill?

Besides a capella singing not usually having a beat you can dance to, it's a balance issue for precisely the reason one would want it to work that way: you don't have to carry an instrument.

o Is there a bug with put chalice, china pouch command? I have it the same way I have put chalice, china pouch, but when I put it just drop my chalice instead of putting it in the pouch

Since drop and put are synonyms for the same function call, you just asked the code to drop the first item on the ground and put the second in the pouch because of how the comma support works. If a command uses multiple arguments, you must use them appropriately for each item you're wanting to include. So in this case, to put both items into the pouch, you want to use:

PUT CHALICE POUCH, CHINA POUCH

Using the comma support you can put objects into different containers/or on the ground using a single command.

o Can we have a helpfile for KZ?

This is usually up to the builder, but perhaps SL, PD, AT and KZ need added to the helpfile for common JARGON?

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