April 11th, 2002

How do you become an Imm?

Hito says, 'how do you bacome an imm?'

LadyAce says, 'fill out an application and get voted in, essentially'

LadyAce says, 'there's a helpfile on it and some web pages devoted.'

Hito says, 'where is one'

Hito says, 'ok'

Kaige says, 'the info on the steps are in HELP APPLICATION'

LadyAce says, 'help immort & help application'

Korgan peers around the room intently.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Korgan bows deeply.

Hito says, 'thanks'

Haley smiles at Hito.

LadyAce smiles at Hito.

Changes to Housing Costs?

Percy says, 'are there any plans to change housing cost?'

LadyAce says, 'None I'm aware of'

Kaige says to Percy, 'I actually just fiddled with some of them in Lima this week, but I don't know when I'm gonna put that update in.'

Kaige says, 'some of them were off from the docs. so they'll be lower soon.'

LadyAce means on a global this costs this scale

LadyAce says, 'if you see any that seem way out of line for what they offer, let us know'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Percy says, 'i mean, like, daily rent in general?'

LadyAce says, 'the last time the this costs this much thing came up for discussion, it died a fiery death'

Percy cowers in fear!

LadyAce says, 'essentially we don't want to see people storing scads of gear in their houses'

Percy puts on a fireproof suit.

Korgan says, 'i do that anyway'

Hito says, 'how do I learn a recall spell?'

Percy says, 'well, how about the daily rent for the room itself?'

Kaige says, 'we've got 442 rooms being paid for...'

LadyAce says, 'well, if you're going to do that, you'll hafta pay for it, is the idea.'

Korgan says to Kaige, 'wow'

Korgan nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Korgan says, 'and i do greatly'

Percy says, 'i mean, i have things in my house, but it's the rooms that's the problem'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Korgan.

LadyAce comforts Korgan.

Kaige says, 'that's between personal houses and clan halls all combined.'

Nexela says, 'rooms need to hold more stuff in em'

Korgan nods his agreement with Nexela.

Korgan says, 'thats a big problem for me'

LadyAce says, 'I have an idea -- maybe someone could start a post on discussion, and list out what you'd like to see changed.'

Haley says, 'if we had more in some people's houses, we'd spam deadlink'

LadyAce says, 'then tell us why :)'

Haley giggles.

Korgan nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'and that's probably a better forum?'

Percy nods solemnly.

Haley nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'we also only have so much space available for the number of rooms, think of it as scarcity... if no one had or could keep houses because the daily rent on the rooms themselves was prohibitive we wouldn't have half that space filled'

LadyAce says, 'because that way it'll be more like a broad survey, and all the staff can see it and respond.'

Korgan says to Haley, 'most of my stuff is in cabinet and such'

Haley beams at Korgan delightedly.

Haley says to Korgan, 'that makes it better then :)'

Korgan says to Haley, 'but still takes up a room space'

Haley nods her agreement with Korgan.

Korgan sighs loudly.

Nexela nods his agreement with Korgan.

Learning Spells?

LadyAce says, 'Okie, let's go on to Hito's question. Recall spell.'

Korgan snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'there's a helpfile on help recall spell actually :)'

Hito says, 'ok'

Haley says, 'if you are qualified for it :)'

LadyAce says, 'if it shows up for you (not sure, can't tell)'

Korgan nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'HELP MAGIC and HELP CHANT are probably the first steps to learning about mage type stuff'

LadyAce says, 'but the idea is that you have to learn the magic arts -- not just a particular spell'

Korgan says, 'thats one thing i love about legend. great help files.'

Kaige says, 'and talking with other mages'

LadyAce says, 'those helpfiles will guide you through it'

Kaige smiles at Korgan.

Haley nods her agreement with Korgan.

LadyAce says to Korgan, 'thanks :)'

Korgan nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says to Korgan, 'thanks. we try.'

Korgan smiles happily.

Hito says, 'through learning magic?'

Korgan says to Kaige, 'ill let yall know if i find anything odd in them.'

Haley says to Korgan, 'we like to see that stuff :)'

Korgan whispers quietly to Kaige.

Kaige says to Hito, 'all spells are done either through objects like scrolls/potions or chanted by a mage'

Kaige says to Hito, 'in order to chant the spells you have to learn chant as a skill and the magic words. The help files should explain it pretty well.'

Hito says, 'ok'

Hito says, 'umm, would I learn magic from a mage?'

LadyAce says, 'other mages might be able to give you guidance'

Hito says, 'thanks'

LadyAce says, 'for learning the magic words and such, you'll either talk to mobs with magical skills, or those possessing power in the scope of the word.'

Timing of Autorenting?

Korgan says, 'is there anyway you can change the length of time for autorent?'

Korgan says, 'seems way to low..'

Nexela nods his agreement with Korgan.

Nexela says, 'configable'

Nexela says, '10-60 minutes after void would be nice'

Korgan nods his agreement with Nexela.

LadyAce says, 'why do you think it should be changed?'

Kaige says, 'well, we don't want it too long, because that wastes bandwith'

Korgan says, 'whats it right now? 30 minutes?'

Haley says, '30 ticks isnt it?'

Korgan says, '45-50 would be best me thinks'

Kaige says, 'depends on tick length.. but I wanna say it's around 20 minutes or so'

LadyAce says, 'for us, it's a balance between 'annoyance by getting autorented when you don't want to be' and 'annoyance by not getting autorented when you're stuck and there's no imms to help you''

Percy says, 'i think that's rather short'

LadyAce says, 'plus there's bandwidth, yah.'

Ea! says, 'Autorenting saves us bandwidth and memory... Also, it helps protect you from evil crashes that happen while you're in the void...'

Korgan says, 'four times in jan-feb i overrented cause of power outages here'

Kaige comforts Korgan.

Percy says, 'considering if a net connection fails, if it does come back up, it's usually a half an hour or more'

LadyAce says, 'shouldn't go over rent :P'

Korgan says, 'then i cant make money'

Korgan sighs loudly.

Korgan says, 'dumb creates.'

Korgan sticks his tongue out at everyone! =P

Nexela says to Korgan, 'dont get the imms started on this'

Nietzsche pouts at Korgan.

Korgan snickers softly.

Korgan says, 'ok ill stop from ranting now'

Nexela says, 'well run with a create and split the measley profit you make'

Nexela says, 'yadda yadda yadda'

Korgan snickers softly.

Nexela says, 'thats all they will say'

Lilac waves happily.

Korgan tips his hat to Lilac.

Nexela says, 'or'

Kaige says, 'don't forget explore more'

Korgan nods his agreement with Kaige.

Korgan says to Kaige, 'been tryin'

Kaige smiles at Korgan.

Redeem/Pretitle Reimb?

Nietzsche says, 'foolish people like Rowane and myself changed our pretitles before the new redeems were put in. Any chance we'll see two redeem points reimbursed? =b'

Ea! giggles.

LadyAce says, 'yup, should be contacted about that soon.'

Ea! says, 'We actually talked about that. There are three of you.'

Ea! giggles.

Nietzsche throws his arms wide and expresses enthusiasm for the beautiful day.

Korgan says to Nietzsche, 'can i have one?'

Korgan says, 'overrented my first coupons for my first redeems..'

Crashes: STOP THEM! Please?

ArchAngel says, 'has the big issue been addressed???'

Korgan says, 'any more crash pools?'

ArchAngel laughs with amusement.

Korgan smiles happily.

Lilac giggles.

LadyAce says, 'not at this moment :)'

Korgan says, 'was close last time'

Ea! says, 'I'll be posting something on the welcome board about the crashes in a few minutes.'

Korgan says, 'and legend seems to stay up longer...'

LegendMUD is crashing. Sorry.

% Connection to legend closed by foreign host.

A heavenly aura appears in the room, is that Kaige?

Tobias grumbles.

Tobias giggles.

Kaige says, 'bad korgan!'

Haley giggles.

Haley nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says, 'he said the bad word.'

Tobias says, 'eh?'

Haley says, 'talk about timing!'

Kaige looks accusingly at Korgan.

Haley tickles Korgan.

Kaige giggles.

Korgan says, 'ok please delete my last statement for logs'

Haley says to Korgan, 'you shoulda kept quiet!'

Haley giggles.

Korgan snickers softly.

Korgan orders LegendMud to crash!

Haley giggles at Nietzsche.

Korgan peers around the room intently.

Korgan says, 'darn'

Reimbs/Overrent/Housing Bug?

ArchAngel says, 'during the crash last sat. i was just dropping an item to go underrent and the mud crashed and i lost all my strings.. any possibility of getting the strings back at least?'

LadyAce says, 'No, losses due to being over rent are not reimb'd.'

Lilac shudders.

ArchAngel sighs loudly.

LadyAce says, 'It hurts, it happens, please don't go over rent.'

ArchAngel says, 'i was improving some of my stats and just typed drop shirt to go underrent and it crashed'

Percy says, 'losses due to weird housing related things due to crashes?'

Kaige says to Percy, 'we're still looking into a couple of those... yours is one of them at the moment.'

LadyAce says, 'are investigated, and if caused by a bug rather than a bad choice or bad luck, reimb'd'

Nexela has this no overrent clause

Nexela says to Percy, 'dont believe that'

LadyAce says to ArchAngel, 'If you ever go over rent at all, you are taking a risk, and this is one of the possible consequences.'

Haley says to Nexela, 'smartest way to be especially with the instability lately.'

Percy nods solemnly.

Percy says, 'thanks very much'

Nexela says to Haley, 'I hate it though cause my str char cant make alot of moeny'

Kaige appraises a chair.

Kaige says, 'appraise tends to be useful at times like these'

ArchAngel says, 'so if i take and go and get items to change my eq as i always do then its my fault if the mud crashes while i'm just dropping things?'

LadyAce says to ArchAngel, 'if you decided to go over rent, it's your fault if you lose stuff'

Haley says to ArchAngel, 'MOTD is a really bright reminder, we all know the problems right now'

ArchAngel says, 'thats a bunch of bull its like saying i'm stuck with a eq list i hate unless i dt..'

Kaige says, 'i mean I know why it's reporting twice, but figure out how to stop that.'

Kaige says, 'no, it means you have to be careful and smart about where you drop your stuff to juggle it.'

Bug with Deposit & Currency?

Adamar says, 'in pittsburgh bank, when you deposit dollars, i see the deposit message twice, is that bug or typo?'

Kaige says, 'either. both go to same place'

Adamar deposit 2 dollars

Adamar deposit 2 dollars

Adamar says, 'like taht sort of...'

LadyAce says, 'seems like you should only see it once, yea'

Kaige was gonna figure out why it did that this week, but got side tracked.

Vehicles like Carts & Wagons?

Lilac says, 'ok.. I know this is unanswerable.. but I have been trying to figure it for MONTHS now.. on the board upstairs.. post 7.. they mention carts for carrying eq... IS there such a thing??? useable by str fighters to prevent overrent gold running?'

Nexela says, 'yeah I cant figure thouse out'

Kaige says, 'such a thing exists, but while we think we have the crashing bug with them fixed, there's are still a couple of problems that need to be addressed before they're put out for general use again.'

Nexela says, 'Rather I cant find a MOB that I can RIDE that I could HARNNES'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Nexela's head.

Llewellyn giggles at Lilac.

Lilac says, 'more then one around then??'

Lilac nods her agreement with Nexela.

Kaige says, 'not currently, we pulled the existing ones from resets to prevent crashes a while back'

Lilac says, 'I just dont want to spend months looking.. if they dont really exist.. or trying to figure them out if they arent workable'

Nexela nods his agreement with Lilac.

Lilac nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'the fixed stuff should get posted about when it goes in and all'

LadyAce says, 'so you can definitely watch for that'

Lilac says, 'will we get a CLUE when we can start looking for them again'

Lilac says, 'oh!'

Lilac smiles happily.

Lilac beams delightedly.

Lilac says, 'thanks.. both of you!'

Lilac smiles happily.

Why are mundane items so pricey?

Percy says, 'why do you make mundane items renty?'

Percy says, 'okay i guess it's not 1k or 2k renty, but like, 300 rent?'

Percy says, 'i mean, why? it doesn't do anything'

LadyAce says, 'sometimes they are AC'

Percy says, 'i mean, you guys don't make nice mundane items to put on mobs just so that people won't look at it or bother about them right? there are lots of nice things out there, but rent is a deterance'

LadyAce says, 'also in the olden days we didn't have a way to separate price-they-sell-for and rent-they-cost'

Percy says, 'i see a lot of nice items in obscure areas and these are usually areas you discover later as a midbie and such, and they're nice to get and collect, but the rent adds up'

Percy says, 'people are also less likely to go get these nice items because they're still equipping'

LadyAce says, 'you should feel free to point them out to the builders, they might not've thought about that, or there might be something funny/odd going on'

Kaige nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'as you come across them and such'

Nexela whaps himself across the back of the head!

LadyAce says, 'we haven't always had collectors around :)'

Percy says, 'how will i get the message out to all the builders? i mean, there are nice items everywhere'

Kaige says, 'and preferabbly bug/idea it where you find them so I don't have to dig through all the area files to find who to assign it to'

Percy says, 'for the occasional wardrobe change, disguises, general pointless stuff'

LadyAce says, 'well, just mentioning it on idea as you come across them would be nice'

Percy nods solemnly.

Percy says to LadyAce, 'there's a lot of nice clothing things in crusades that are renty :P'

LadyAce says to Percy, 'I *think* there's reasons for all the rent they do cost, any specifics? :)'

Percy says, 'like the expensive jacket with gold brocade'

Percy says, 'other funky jackets, mantles'

YieXa has 1 question, regarding specific renty items, but not in crusades.

Percy says, 'so i'm a packrat, they look nice, i'm tempted to get an assortment, and then it all adds up :P'

LadyAce says, 'well...the items aren't going to be free :P'

Percy says, 'no, but 100 and below will be good'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think that 100-200 is bad for any item...less for the ratty stuff, more for the nice stuff'

Percy says, 'i think if it's about 200 it still adds up quite quickly'

Percy says, 'five items and there goes one level'

LadyAce says, 'well...feel free to point them out as you find them :) then the builder can check what you've said'

Percy nods solemnly.

Percy says, 'i will :)'

LadyAce says, 'we don't precisely want to encourage packratting....'

Percy coughs loudly.

Percy says, 'too late...'

Adamar says, 'no?'

LadyAce says, 'it's neat that people like to collect items, but it's also a drain on system resources'

YieXa says, 'but you guys make the neatest stuff.'

Adamar says, 'packrat fun'

Percy will quietly hide in the corner now...

LadyAce says, 'we can't have everyone walking around with fifty billion items, we lose track of the ones we have already enough of the time :)'

Percy nods solemnly.

Help Files for New Positions?

Nexela says, 'Wheres the helpfile purpose for kneel/Lay (not that I need one :P)'

Kaige says, 'in progress?'

LadyAce says, 'helpfile purpose?'

Nexela says, 'yeah whats the purpose of of em :P'

Nexela says, 'Kneel at least'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'as in where is the helpfiles for those new commands/positions'

LadyAce says, 'RP for starters'

LadyAce says, 'also, there's ways to incorporate them into skills'

Nexela says, 'ohhhhhh'

LadyAce says, 'the code will be able to call them and give them benefits & costs'

Nexela kneels and comes at you with a backstab! :P

Nexela is lying down and cannot be backstabbed!

Nexela cheers wildly!

LadyAce says, 'kneeling & aiming, say'

Nexela says, 'I dont understand the whole sit to aim a gun thing'

LadyAce says, 'the idea being like snipers who sit down to take good aim irl'

Kaige says, 'I think that's like you're steadier'

YieXa nods his agreement with Kaige.

Nexela says, 'Ive never sat down to fire a gun, maybe make Aim better for sitting kneeling standing'

LadyAce says, 'they don't walk around high fiving people when they're honing in for a kill, etc.'

YieXa says, 'I thought snipers usually lay down for aiming.'

Nexela nods his agreement with YieXa.

Nexela says, 'Lay if its 2 handed'

LadyAce says to YieXa, 'but we only have rest and sleep now :) no lay'

Kaige says, 'and now we have lay!'

YieXa nods his agreement with Nexela.

Nexela says, 'kneel if its 1 handed and get rid of sit'

LadyAce says, 'more options, more possibilities, that's the essential idea'

Nexela says, 'Same with bows'

Alissa says, 'will the new positions have help/desc files for them?'

YieXa says, 'what about kneeling and then kicking makes tripping?'

LadyAce says, 'yea, files will go in.'

Kaige says to Alissa, 'yes, they have to be written first to go in tho'

Alissa nods her agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'use idea to suggest any and all uses of them, please :)'

Alissa says, 'will they be linked to aim, shoot, ect ect ect'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think there's a linkage in yet, but the new positions do certainly suggest new possibilities'

Nexela says, 'binoculars should be usable *I.E* scan tool :P'

Alissa says, 'IE: help aim..see also kneel...'

Alissa says, 'half the time, you cant find all the help files because you dont know everywhere to look'

Archiving a House?

LadyAce says to Adamar, 'your turn, you asked about house archiving?'

LadyAce says, 'we don't offer it -- you can sell your house to someone'

LadyAce says, 'that way people don't archive and eat up all the housing slots and never come back'

LadyAce says, 'we want the feature used, not like a ghost town out there'

Adamar says, 'if i archive with lots of cash, does the house stay'

Adamar says, 'until money runs out'

LadyAce says, 'no, if you archive the house poofs'

Adamar nods solemnly.

Importance of Position?

Adamar says, 'and is kneel=rest=sit in terms of regen rate?'

LadyAce says to Alissa, 'if you could let us know which ones are tough that way, we'll try to make it better'

Alissa nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'ok, the 2nd question about regen rate ...and the answer is, no idea'

Nexela peers at LadyAce, looking her up and down.

Nexela says, 'you have no idea'

LadyAce says, 'no idea how it'll affect regen, no. Don't know if the code pays attention to it or not, even.'

LadyAce says, 'Maybe Kaige or Ea knows but they're on the trail of a bug :)'

Nexela says, 'Should be like this *for hp* Sleep, lay, rest, sit, kneel, stand'

Wolfram says, 'actually kneel should take away hps eventually'

Ea! says, 'Er, kneeling...'

Nexela says to Wolfram, 'good one'

Ea! says, 'We may change how we're doing them, though.'

Adamar says, 'then i want knee pads then'

MudMail to Whole Clan at Once?

Nexela says, 'My most recent Idea!'

Nexela says, 'Mail note clan to send something to all your clanmembers'

Nexela nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Adamar nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'yea, has been suggested...'

Ea! says, 'I think that laying is the same as resting at the momement. Not sure about sitting.'

Kaige says, 'been suggested a lot, no one wants to touch board.c'

LadyAce says, 'would be nice :) setting up little internal mailing lists....'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Events Schedule?

Adamar says, 'are there any more games or events or all that postponed till bug hunting is over'

LadyAce says, 'type events to monitor the pre-scheduled stuff'

LadyAce says, 'we try to keep stuff in it all the time....some kinda stuff, anyway.'

Adamar says, 'i like the new calendar ascii'

Alissa nods her agreement with Adamar.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Adamar.

Alissa says, 'whoever came up with that idea, kudo's'

Kaige says, 'thanks'

Kaige says, 'I can't decide if we should pull the color once the events are past or not tho'

Adamar says, 'the colors messed up my spacing'

LadyAce says, 'doesn't hurt to leave it'

Alissa says to Kaige, 'nay, leave 'em..makes us look busy'

Kaige giggles.

LadyAce giggles at Alissa.

Alissa giggles.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Alissa's head.

Zmud & MCCP Help?

Alissa says, 'I need someone who is good with zmud, who can help me figure out why the MCCP thingy isnt working 99% of the time'

Alissa pouts.

Nexela says, 'do you have it turned off'

Alissa says, 'if I knew, I wouldnt ask'

Kaige says, 'you have the zmud version that's listed in help mccp?'

Kaige says, 'or are you using mcclient with it'

Alissa says, 'version 6.24'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Alissa says, 'everytime I close zmud, it shows me an error with the thing tho'

Nexela says, 'ok goto view prefences general emulation'

Nexela says, 'and check the box for MCCP'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Nexela's head.

Alissa says, 'it is clicked'

Nexela looks up into the sky and ponders.

Nexela says, 'upgrade zmud'

Alissa says, 'but when I close zmud, the MCCP has crashed or has an error in it'

Nexela says, '6.24 was kinda buggy for me'

Alissa nods her agreement with Nexela.

Nexela says, 'to keep from getting errors export your settings as text too :P and delete all things zmud :P'

Alissa chuckles politely.

Alissa says, 'I tried that, sorta made it hard to connect..but it took me over a year to get it fixed'

Alissa snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'does anybody else have a question for us? Otherwise, I think we'll call the session finished :)'

Nexela says, 'Ive had a fresh install of 6.26a for a while no and not a single crash, even though it is a memmory hog'

Alissa says to Nexela, 'I need to upgrade, but everytime I do, it loses my alias's and triggers'

Alissa smiles happily.

Alissa comforts Nexela.

Alissa waves happily.

What Does Wizlocked Mean?

YieXa says, 'what's wizlocked mean?'

LadyAce says, 'no one can log in'

YieXa says, 'oh.'

Kaige says, 'it means only immorts can log in'

YieXa says, 'so how long should I wait before I try to come back and get my fix?'

Kaige says, 'and aha! we have a help wizlock now'

Nexela cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Kaige says, 'about 30 -40 seconds after it goes down.'

YieXa needs his hourly fix of LegendMud.

YieXa says, 'well, better get outta here.'

YieXa waves happily.

LadyAce waves happily.

Kaige gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige waves happily.

Ea! waves happily.

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