February 21st, 2002

Starting Mort Games?

Clow says, 'ok my question is how do you start a game like trivia and stuff like that like if we wanted to start one'

LadyAce says, 'well, if you need our help...'

LadyAce says, 'you tell us when you want it to run and we'll make a channel for you'

LadyAce says, 'we can put it in the events listing, too'

Clow says, 'ok thanks'

LadyAce smiles at Clow.

Clow smiles at LadyAce.

Problems with An Imm?

Styx says, 'Why do some of the immortals show contempt for some of the player characters? Namely Me.'

Jenna blinks.

Kaige is completely boggled.

LadyAce says, 'I think you'll hafta be more specific before I can answer that.'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Boreas comforts Styx.

Styx says, 'Ok. Why do some of the imms treat player characters like crap.'

Jenna snuggles up to Somar.

Boreas says, 'can't expect everyone to like everybody else'

Somar says, 'I think once again, you have to be very specific'

Somar says, 'but I'm not the one answering questions here ;)'

Styx nods his agreement with Somar.

LadyAce says, 'that's still a little too vague -- what in particular happened to make you think that?'

Clow nods solemnly.

Straussy says to Styx, 'If you're being mistreated in anyway, you should let Kaige or Zandy know..'

Styx says, 'Well in particular, Why do you treat me like crap?'

Straussy looks confused.

LadyAce says, 'I don't know of any particular clashes between you and us -- can you describe what happened?'

Kaige says, 'and if it's me.. please, talk to me so I can figure out why I'm not coming acoss how I meant to'

Ea! nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'I've seen you give a number of ideas about areas, and I think you've been hearing back from us about those ideas...'

LadyAce says, 'is it related to that?'

Styx says, 'No I didn't want to single anyone out, but almost everytime I have a problem with something (not ideas) and I go to LadyAce about it she just kind of seems to brush me off as if My problems are unimportant'

Styx says, 'sorry lot of typing'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'well, again, I think you'll have to be specific with me -- I don't recall any particular problems or specifics'

Straussy nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'maybe this would be better in a non-group forum, though. You can have my boss there if you like'

LadyAce winks suggestively at Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'because if it's me and you specifically, I don't know that the whole mud cares to read it :)'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'honestly the best thing to do if you have a problem with one specific imm. is pull them aside and talk to them, explain why you feel hurt and see if it was intentional. Many times it will be the lack of external cues that we rely on in person when we talk to people that make things seem harsher than they intended.'

Kaige says, 'If you don't feel satisfied after talking to them, then go to their depthead or me'

Styx says, 'It has been a while ago, like december and I wish I had kept logs so...'

Somar says, 'rule one of resolving perceived conflicts tends to be to discuss it with the person you feel has wronged you... if that doesn't provide resolution, then a step up would be useful, rather than just going to a public forum'

Tobias says, 'might just catch 'em when they're busy or somethin'?'

Styx says, 'screw it i guess'

Nexela has a problem with authority figures in general.

Nexela gives a quick polish to a glowing halo. It now shines brightly.

LadyAce says, 'you don't have to keep logs to bring up an issue, but it's helpful if you can be specific.'

LadyAce says, 'for example, what the problem was, and what response you got, etc.'

Styx says, 'I just cant remeber specific events but i just rebemer it has only been ladyace to brush me off'

Straussy says, 'she's busy yanno'

Straussy says, 'rl busy'

LadyAce says, 'well...it's definitely news to me.'

Jenna says, 'i suspect ladyace is often afk'

Kaige says, 'but what's liable to happen then is dragging people into a room and pulling out the specifics to see why the feeling is there.'

Jenna says, 'there's been a couple of times i've sent a tell and got no reply'

Boreas nods her agreement with Jenna.

Boreas says, 'I just figure they're busy or oow a lot'

Styx says, 'It wasn't even AFK cause that I can understand that if they post afk but it is in talking to her she just seems to give me the brush off'

Jenna nods her agreement with Boreas.

LadyAce says, 'can you remember what we were talking about?'

Styx says, 'but forget it i guess'

LadyAce just doesn't recall what you're referring to....

Styx says, 'no i cant'

Styx says, 'Thats why i have been avoiding talking to her'

Somar says, 'it's really hard to resolve a problem if you don't even really know what the problem is.. and avoiding talking to her is the worst thing to do if you want resolution'

Styx says, 'and thats what i'll continue to do until i can recall it'

Straussy says to Styx, 'taking things a bit too serious...'

Haley snuggles up to Jenna.

Nexela goes EEK! at Haley in distress - isn't Haley an awful person for teasing?

Nexela pouts.

Jenna giggles at Haley.

Styx says to Straussy, 'No it just seems everytime I talk to her she just kind of treats me like s*@t'

Boreas says to Styx, 'perhaps you think it is that way mostly because you now expect it. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy'

Styx says, 'Anyway I'm done bitching.'

LadyAce says, 'unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it unless we can talk about it.'

Somar says, 'if I go around convinced that someone doesn't like me, without even realizing the reason, I'd be hard pressed to convince myself that they really do'

More Redeem Options?

Jenna says, 'would you consider being able to redeem for more pracs'

Yohn would like to see mundane coupons as an option with redeem points.

Boreas says, 'no, they won't'

Jenna says, 'my old old chars never get played cos they don't have half the skills'

LadyAce says, 'we've actually added that to a helpfile as something that's not on the table'

Jenna sniffs sadly.

Jenna says, 'ok'

Somar says, 'I don't think excessive xp gathering will ever really lead to giving you an ic advantage over others'

Kaige nods her agreement with Somar.

Yohn nods his agreement with Somar.

Somar *would* welcome a skillwipe with arms wide open about now, anyway.

Jenna says, 'its more to right a disadvantage'

Nexela says, 'brb'

Jenna says, 'but i'm still not permaing my oldest char, even if she sucks'

Somar comforts Jenna.

Kaige wishes she still had her oldest char even if she sucked.

Kaige sniffs sadly.

Jenna comforts Kaige.

Somar nods his agreement with Kaige.

Krynn nods his agreement with Somar.

Ea! says, 'I still have my oldest character!'

Straussy nods his agreement with Krynn.

LadyAce says to Jenna, 'I'm not sure we have a solution to that short of a some-day-don't-count-on-it wipe'

Somar just recently made an attempt to unpurge his oldest character - after years of activity, it didn't work :(

Krynn scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Jenna nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Krynn says, 'somebody stole the name of my oldest char'

Haley nods her agreement with Somar.

Haley giggles.

Haley tried!

Jenna says to LadyAce, 'it'd be a nice thing for us oldbies'

Somar says, 'I believe a skillwipe is threatened to go hand-in-hand with skilltrees.'

Boreas is newbie forever.

Jenna giggles at Somar.

Yohn nods his agreement with Somar.

Somar says, 'I don't need to finish that, really'

Somar says, 'put me on skilltrees and I'll be done in two weeks!'

Somar ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says, 'if you see ways where the skills you do have could be more useful, you can always suggest them'

Boreas says, 'if swim let you swim more'

LadyAce says, 'it's sort of a cycle -- a skill isn't that useful, so no one gets it, so no one puts in a use for it, etc.'

Kaige says, 'whether in the way the skill functions or uses for skills in areas'

Kaige nods her agreement with Boreas.

Jenna says, 'it's more a case of in the old ays everyone was a dex fighter'

Kaige says to Boreas, 'but when everyone walks around with canoes 24/7 who needs to swim?'

LadyAce says, 'sometimes rearranging stats is helpful too'

Jenna says, 'but she doesn't have any of the parry skills, choke, etc'

LadyAce says, 're-invent yourself as a (something else)'

Krynn says to Kaige, 'me, i don't use a canoe, too heavy, and flighty runs out on me while overwater'

Boreas says, 'I think that things like make staff and tailor would be cool if we could enchant items to give them stats'

Kaige says, 'well canoe = boat = not having to swim'

Somar really thinks there should be waterwalking boots, on an only somewhat related note.

Krynn doesn't use boats for the most part.

LadyAce says, 'there are changes planned to those merchant type skills for eventually'

Boreas nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'but that's a 'deeper' change than I'm thinking'

Kaige says to Krynn, 'do you swim?'

Krynn says to Kaige, 'i drown alot'

Clow waves happily.

Kaige comforts Krynn.

Somar waves good-bye to Clow.

Izikiel waves good-bye to Clow.

Straussy says to Krynn, 'well you can't swim big waters'

LadyAce says, 'more swim rooms, mobs that respond to (whatnot), traps/quests that use (thingum), that's more doable.'

Yohn nods his agreement with Straussy.

Somar says, 'you should be able to doggypaddle and stay afloat though.'

LadyAce giggles at Somar.

Adamar says, 'by that logic, do you need swim AND sustained breath to go diving then'

Krynn says to Somar, 'the sally stranding on my head makes me drown'

Kaige says, 'yeah. but knowing how to swim gives you an advantage over not'

A giant wave crashes over Somar, ducking him under the water!

Somar goes EEK! in distress.

Somar would like to see more uses for disarm trap :)

Boreas says, 'I 'ad an idea for praise, not sure if I ever brought it up'

LadyAce says, 'use idea if you come up with thoughts on these less-useful skills'

Somar says, 'I can think of one that other classes don't have the benefit of getting around.'

Jenna nods her agreement with Somar.

Straussy nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Straussy says, 'I like arm wrestling'

Straussy scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Boreas begins to armwrestle with Straussy.

Boreas rubs her arm after being crushed in armwrestling by Straussy!

Tobias says, 'arm-wrestling should give bonuses to choke! ^_~'

Boreas says, 'I like armwrestling immies'

Prestige Changing More?

Jenna says, 'when did the changes to prestige go in, and what was the rationale behind making it basically useless now?'

Ea! says, 'We wanted to remove the rent thing, since it caused players more trouble than it was worth.'

LadyAce says, 'there are still some pretty good in-game bonuses to prestige'

Jenna nods solemnly.

Somar nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Jenna says, 'but everyone's prestige is 100 easily'

Ea! says, 'At the same time, we wanted to redo the formulas... we just stopped about half way through.'

Somar says, 'now praise WAS made about useless, but prestige wasn't :P'

Jenna says, 'praise is almost never used'

Ea! says, 'We need to pick that up again.'

Boreas says, 'I would like to see more mobs responding to you based on your prestige.'

Yohn thinks praise can be useful in RP.

Kaige says, 'praise was used 142 times in the past week by players.'

Jenna nods her agreement with Yohn.

Tobias says, 'I personally think you shouldn't be able to get max prestige through praise.'

Somar says, 'it was made useless when hell came out - cuz now you can't try to info praise Charon on the way across.'

Tobias says, 'that way it could actually mean a bit more.'

Jenna giggles at Somar.

Tobias says, 'and you could have stuff based on it without anyone having it.'

Yohn giggles.

Somar really doesn't think RP needs skills - RPers have the most powerful command available without practices.

Krynn says to Somar, 'emote!'

Boreas says to Somar, 'emote?'

Somar says, 'two commands, actually.. emote, and emoteto'

Straussy says to Somar, 'just use emote?'

Straussy giggles.

LadyAce says to Boreas, 'what sorts of responses from mobs do you think would be good to see?'

Ea! says to Somar, 'So, you're saying that we should charge pracs to be able to speak?'

Ea! ducks to the ground.

Krynn says to Somar, 'i always thought say was a pretty powerful rp tool myself'

Somar nods his agreement with Krynn.

Jenna says to Ea!, 'i won't mention how many of my oldbies have eloquence'

Somar says, 'but emote can simulate a say!'

Straussy says, 'but then what you might see as an rp skill, might be useful to someone else?'

Tobias says to LadyAce, 'Mobs could respond positively to people with high prestige by aiding them when they see them in a fight, or more evil mobs could react the other way around?'

Somar has eloquence!

Krynn says, "I just used an emote!"

LadyAce says to Jenna, 'we did put in a reimb for eloquence'

Yohn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Jenna goes EEK! at LadyAce in distress - isn't LadyAce an awful person for teasing?

Somar says, 'that must've happened during my detox period.'

Jenna says, 'i must have been away for that'

Boreas says to LadyAce, 'well, if you think of prestige as how famous you are, then with high prestige mobs would recognize you--like the bootblack. On the other hand, you should only be able to sneak well if you are relatively unknown'

Krynn says to Somar, 'same here'

Kaige says, 'was even prominently announced in the lt as well'

Styx says, 'why is there even praise anymore?'

Somar says to Styx, 'that's exactly what we're discussing'

Boreas nods her agreement with Tobias.

Jenna says, 'i had a hiatus of about 18 months'

LadyAce says, 'there were reimbs put in when we changed the formula for backstab ... there was one for choke and elbow...etc'

Ea! says to Styx, ''cause we're not done fiddling with the prestige stuff.'

Ea! says, 'We'll make presitge matter again, at some point.'

Sigrid says, 'thinks timed reimbs with archived chars kinda sucks. Who wants to unarchive all their chars to check what skills they have, just in case they find out they want to play them again?'

Boreas says, 'it only takes a few seconds to unarchive and rearchive now, you don't need to find an imm'

Jenna says, 'do the reimburses still stand?'

LadyAce says, 'I think that it ran for a month or two but it has expired'

Jenna nods solemnly.

Sigrid says, 'yes, ok, what I am asking is, why is it necesary to expire the reimbs?'

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'One angle on it is that they're a reward for paying attention and staying somewhat active.'

Ea! says, 'It's also makes it easier for admins to track who has been reimbed so that we're not reimbing people who got the skill, used it for a while, and then decided to change it.'

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'another thing to think about there is that we don't want people to end up getting a skill after the change and then getting it reimbd'

Sigrid says to LadyAce, 'yes, I'm just thinking maybe make a reward for actually wanting to play some of your old characters again instead of making new ones all the time.. that do basicly the same thing'

LadyAce says, 'let's finish with skill reimbs, and then it's Styx's turn, and then we can do spellbooks'

Kaige nods her agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'You can always unarchive those chars tho?'

Sigrid says to LadyAce, 'ok, I see your second point, but do you think i'd lie to you if I told you I got meditate before it was changed'

Kaige says, 'you might not, but others would and have'

Sigrid glares at nothing in particular.

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'it can be a strategic thing -- you get a skill which is useful while you're a newbie, but then get rid of it when you're more advanced'

Sigrid says, 'so because some people are dishonest I am getting punished'

Boreas says, 'free reimburses to players with 0 warnings!'

Styx says, 'damn'

LadyAce giggles at Boreas.

Boreas nods to herself - she must be getting senile.

Cadmus laughs with amusement.

Sigrid goes EEK! in distress.

Boreas says, 'it would also encourage people to be good'

Krynn says, 'lack of warnings doesn't mean ur a stand up player, just means you haven't been caught'

Somar says, 'there would be quite an arguement for this being unfair if some people were reimbed and some weren't.'

Yohn says, 'maybe it would save you a lot of trouble if you just wiped the skill from all characters, plus the one it's prereq. for, and then people could go and get it again, if they wanted to. But there's probably problems with that too'

Sigrid really didn't know BS was a bad word. Is sorry.

Yohn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'especially with the way we can do it now since the eloquence change, where you don't even need an imm to do the reimb, there even less worry about having to decide which char to unarchive today'

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'it's not as simple as just preventing dishonesty, tho, because of the 'incentive to maintain your characters''

Cadmus says, 'actually i would like to see something where we could get a self reimburse on any skill so we can test out skills to see if we like them'

Cadmus says, 'that way i would actually get some skills not used often to play with and see if i really truely like them enough to keep or not'

Styx says, 'yeah I have skills I got and never onced used'

LadyAce says to Yohn, 'some of 'em take quests or are a bother to get ... and imho it never 'feels' quite right when you log in and something's yanked out of your playerfile, so we try to avoid it'

Somar nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Yohn nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'I think that we'd lose some realism if we had a reimb system like you describe'

Somar got to be one of the select few victims of a bug that yanked all of my gear away every time I logged in :P

Sigrid says, 'aye'

Kaige says, 'the problem with reimbing practices any old time on any skill is you go out, figure out what's good, what's useful and what's not, and then only relearn those that are useful, building a much more powerful and efficient character than s'

Ea! says to Somar, 'That's it, keep telling yourself it was a bug.'

Jenna giggles.

Ea! giggles.

LadyAce says, 'I mean, if you go to the effort to learn how to do a great kick ... it's not quite realistic to imagine yourself as always learning new skills and forgetting them'

Yohn giggles.

Ea! doesn't even remember that one, actually.

Kaige says, 'someone who is a new player and therefore not as knowledgeable about the game system. They can't even hope to compete in a situation like that especially in pk'

Somar says, 'it was well before your time'

Yohn nods solemnly.

Somar pets Ea! lovingly.

Styx says, 'My plan was to sell back skills at 2 skills for 1 practice session'

Boreas says, 'so what you are doing is making it so we are encouraged to make many chars, building first ones ofr testing, then redoing chars getting it right the second time around'

Ea! says, 'that'd explain it, then.'

Cadmus says, 'well maybe make it so redeem for skill practices or something'

Emrysia says, 'what about some sort of system where you forget skills you never use? that's realistic....'

Dae says, 'I never use juggle, but i need it'

Dae says, 'I -need- it'

Boreas nods her agreement with Emrysia.

Jenna says, 'i have this strange feeling of deja vu'

Ea! says, 'Okay, I've got to get going.'

Ea! waves happily.

Ea! slowly fades into thin air.

LadyAce says, 'unrealism can sink ideas, but realism doesn't always sell them (thence guns not being ultra-powerful)'

Yohn thinks Emrysia's should be immune to DT's then, assuming that she learns from her mistakes:)

LadyAce says, 'I think our general approach is that you make choices which develop your history, your mind and body'

Yohn ducks under Emrysia.

Krynn says, 'i kinda like being able to shrug off 10 bullets and keep on coming'

Sigrid laughs with amusement.

Jenna giggles at Yohn.

Krynn says, 'makes me feel like arnold'

Cadmus nods his agreement with Krynn.

LadyAce says, 'and your character becomes an entity then, with certain traits -- not a chameleon'

Emrysia glares icily at Yohn.

Kaige says to Emrysia, 'that forgetting thing was actually in one of the plans for trees. I don't know whwere it stands now thow'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'I thought you simply became bad at them, not forgot them altogehter'

Cadmus says, 'i say we get trees back in working progress over everything else =p'

Cadmus nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Yohn giggles.

Somar says, 'I vote to keep memory leaks as a prime concern ;)'

LadyAce says, 'but I think we've drifted far from Sigrid's concern'

Kaige says, 'I'm just happy we've been up since we rebooted last thursday night again!'

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'have we covered your question?'

Cadmus snickers softly.

Somar nods his agreement with Kaige.

Boreas says, 'I always likeed the thing with needing to practice skills. It makes it so that somebody who levels themselves, kicking things all the time, will have a better kick than somebody who leeched the levels, and not kicking.'

Krynn says, 'i think i'm really not gonna like trees, but i get my moral rewards from pk & big mob hunting, not sitting around being a tailor'

Kaige nods her agreement with Boreas.

Sigrid says to LadyAce, 'I think'

Dae says, 'eep'

Dae says, 'ick trees'

Sigrid pinches Dae and you wonder what he will do back.

Dae says, 'practice skills'

Dae says, 'ack ack'

LadyAce says to Boreas, 'that kind of thing is appealing, until you start to try to solve the problem of bots'

Dae bursts into tears.

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'okie :)'

Boreas says, 'but the problem is then you have people making bots'

Boreas nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Spellbooks

Cadmus says, 'on the same topic how long do spellbooks stay in game?'

Kaige says, 'forever and 2 days... no more'

Boreas says, 'eek, I hope a long time since I'm having trouble with them'

Somar says to Cadmus, 'they're still in the game from changes long ago'

Cadmus says to Somar, 'oooh'

LadyAce says to Cadmus, 'they're perm, yea.'

Cadmus giggles.

Cadmus nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Ea! says, 'The idea behind spellbooks is that as they decrease your cast level, they're fairly powerful, but since they take a lot of effort to get/use, they're well balanced.'

Cadmus says, 'i just hope my cast level needs to be decreased.. or im gunna be upset for taking forever to get em and not need em =p'

Tobias says, 'I've never even seen one, myself.'

Cadmus giggles.

Jenna says, 'is the cast level change permanent?'

Yohn nods his agreement with Jenna.

Boreas says, 'me either, this is the first new cause spell since I started playing'

Cadmus says to Tobias, 'i spent 9 hours searchin the other night =p'

Tobias says to Cadmus, 'Yowza.'

Cadmus looks up into the sky and ponders.

Cadmus says, 'although i would like to have more clues!'

Cadmus says, 'or maybe a hint to what to ask mobs =p'

Boreas says, 'the clues were very vague. I thought I had a lead on one, but can't find any'

Cadmus says, 'i asked em everything i could think of and maybe even the right mobs but wrong words'

LadyAce says, 'I know some people have figured out some of them'

Jenna nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Jenna says, 'i know where one is'

LadyAce says, 'I thought they were hard too :)'

Jenna says, 'it's by no means easy to get'

Boreas sniffs sadly.

Boreas says, 'I need a spell book for control weather. It's bad for my rp to barely be able to make a splatter or rain'

Getting Strings?

Styx says, 'my second thing was I was wondering how it would be possible to get a zippo string for my light'

Somar says, 'get coupon, tell pr I'd like a string, etc..'

Kaige nods her agreement with Somar.

Yohn nods his agreement with Somar.

Styx says, 'Ok what kind of coupon'

Jenna says, 'depends if you want colours or not'

LadyAce says, 'if you want to make up what it's strung as, a coupon will do'

Somar says, 'non-color string coupon would suffice, or an RP coupon if you have a good way of RP'ing it in...'

LadyAce says, 'if you want to clone an item from the game, a mundane coupon is the thing'

Dae says, 'RP'ing coupons we're discontinued I thought'

Kaige says, 'if you want it to sparkle, then you need one with color'

Kaige giggles.

Styx says, 'well there is not zippo's in the game'

LadyAce says, 'and if you have a restringable item, you just ask for a restring to be applied over top of it'

Somar says, 'then you'll need a non-color coupon'

LadyAce says, 'so then you'd need a coupon'

Somar says, 'or, you can recommend it as a prize machine string'

Somar says, 'they always consider ideas for that, or so I've heard'

Jenna nods her agreement with Somar.

Mobs Reactions based on WHOISES?

Adamar says, 'back to subject of praises'

Adamar says, 'this is a mob act question i suppose, can you make a mob satirize you based on your whois list'

Boreas looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'as in if you've done something one way, they taunt you about it?'

Somar says, 'if the fortune teller in malta is ANY indication, yes'

Dae snickers softly.

Adamar says, 'i.e. ramadan satirize you for being cursed by hougan'

Dae says, 'it's not just her that does that either'

LadyAce says, 'it's doable, we have mobs that do it yea :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Dae says, 'omar, madame zeena,'

Somar says, 'the fortune teller tells you what you've done based on your whois list...'

Adamar nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'not precisely use satire, but do make fun of you'

Adamar says, 'but you can probably link the act to do something else to the player'

Yohn likes the fortune tellers...

Kaige says, 'some of the dreams are based on what is or isn't in your wholist as well'

LadyAce says, 'if you think of a clever thing for a mob to do -- particular mob to react, particular whois to react to -- put it in the idea channel'

Cadmus says, 'those dreams are straaange'

Kaige giggles.

Kaige thanks Cadmus heartily.

Haley giggles at Kaige.

Different Dream Cases?

Adamar says, 'oh dream interaction'

Adamar says, 'a related question'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Adamar.

Adamar says, 'can you make different dreams for people being "drunk" or "fever"'

Dae says, 'burned'

Cadmus says, 'hey disorient is good enough for me =p'

Dae says, 'starving, thirsty'

Cadmus ducks to the ground.

Kaige says, 'ooh.. yes!.. can you idea that for me'

Adamar says, 'or acts that relate to act/spell states'

Tobias says, 'heh'

Cadmus says, 'oh good lord no!'

Tobias says, 'dreams of yummy food.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Tobias.

Dae says, 'and Dr Pepper'

Dae licks his lips and smiles.

Tobias says, 'yes! ^_~'

Sigrid wrinkles her nose at Dae.

Kaige says, 'I was kinda rushed trying to get dreams AND weather both done earlier this month, but those are great ideas'

Cadmus finds himself relieving himself in the tara trash heap.. then the Archdruid runs up and smacks him on the head as you wake up.

Kaige says, 'and the dreams shouldn't be so spammy with tomorrow's update'

Kaige says, 'if they're still too frequent, we can turn it down another notch too'

Shoot <target> <direction>

Dae says, 'do you think you can put in direction of projectile shot from shooter? it's kinda confusing when you just shoot someone, plus, the shooter should know where he's shooting!'

Adamar nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'you mean make it more like throw?'

Dae says, 'yea'

LadyAce says, 'It sounds reasonable to me....'

Dae says, 'you should get a you shoot your bow west at sorta thing'

Kaige says, 'idea that and we'll get it on the todo list. I think it can be done fairly easily'

LadyAce says, 'aim <direction> <person>'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Dae says, 'otherwise, I'm probably shooting straight up in the air'

Dae snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'more like aim person direction'

Straussy says, 'Dunno, if you got shot by a gun are you REALLY gonna know where it came from?'

Somar recommends aim <person > <direction>

Dae says, 'not the person shot'

Yohn says, 'well'

Dae says, 'the person doing the shooting'

Yohn says, 'i suppose you could discern if you were shot in the front, in the back or on either side?'

Dae says, 'it doesn't say where you are shooting'

Somar says, 'the shooter - say you want to shoot a skatha's who's north, as opposed to one who's south, for example'

Boreas says, 'well, if people don't know, then you should take out autorush.'

Clow says, 'i think the one now is good but you just have to specific about what you wanna shoot'

Somar says, '"an exit wound appears in your chest! You must have been shot from behind!"'

Dae snickers at Somar nastily.

LadyAce giggles.

Yohn comforts Somar.

Kaige nods her agreement with Boreas.

Dae says, 'that's assuming your always facing north'

Kaige says to Boreas, 'that's a good point too'

LadyAce says, 'I think the no-autorush/clues-at-direction is in idea list as well, but add it just in case'

Boreas says, 'I've never been shot, but I'd imagine it would be something more like, "your chest suddenly become a mass of pain. You pass out."'

Dae says, 'I like autorush, I refuse to idea it out!'

Upcoming Pkok Changes?

Somar says, 'this may be a touchy subject, and I understand if you don't want to go into it at this time'

Sigrid says, 'oy!'

Boreas likes touchy subjects.

LadyAce giggles at Boreas.

Somar says, 'but a while back, there was some serious buzz about changes to pkok, but it seems to have died down - was anything resolved, or are there any plans to handle any particulars with it? or does it look like things are mostly going the same way as they are now?'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we've come to any conclusions or definite answers'

LadyAce says, 'but we appreciate all the feedback, it helps inform our discussion'

Cadmus looks up into the sky and ponders.

Somar nods solemnly.

Using Spellbooks?

Cadmus says, 'ok back to a spellbook question since ive never used one..'

Cadmus says, 'say i get a spellbook.. i read it and it says i start to study it etc.. is there a msg i get that tells me i have decreased my cast level?'

Sigrid says, 'reading is boring anyway, slicing is so much more fun'

Kaige says, 'I believe so., and I know they tell you when you've maxxed it out as well.'

Sigrid nods solemnly.

Yohn nods his agreement with Cadmus.

Yohn nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sigrid says, 'aye'

Kaige would have to look it up to know the exact message.

Cadmus says, 'oh so i will get a msg on studying the book to the max of my powers?'

LadyAce says, 'Does it even have a failure chance?'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Cadmus.

Somar is way behind the times and still needs to study etheric archer some.

Kaige says, 'that's what I'd have to look up.. I don't know off the top of my head'

Yohn says, 'depends on how many books of one type you feel like getting:) get enough and you do not fail, i do not think'

Yohn says, 'in my limited experience...'

Yohn scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Cadmus says, 'so the spellbooks vanish but i could still need to study them?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Cadmus.

Kaige says, 'yes, one spellbook and study session doesn't = mastery'

LadyAce says to Cadmus, 'you might have to get many'

Clow says, 'how do ya get these spellbooks'

Jenna nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'usually as rewards for quests or other tough situations'

Sigrid says to Clow, 'you find them i suppose'

Clow says, 'ok'

Cadmus says, 'is it possible to increase the number of tries to study the books? i have heard one book is not the greatest to get =p'

Dae says, 'heh'

Dae says, 'you've got to get the book for 1 cast level per pop again?'

LadyAce says, 'they're in more than one spot'

Kaige says, 'well that's where part of the balance that Ea! was talking about earlier comes in.'

Dae says, 'that's alot of spells'

Yohn doesn't think it should be easy to imporve something like castlevel.

Dae says, 'it isn't'

Kaige says, 'the more powerful the spell the more likely it'll be that the book is more volatile so to speak...'

Cadmus says, 'aah there are many different spots for the same book?'

Boreas says, 'well, if the cast levels are bad because the spell wasn't imped, then it should be easy. If they are bad because we got words late, then it should be hard'

LadyAce says, 'we look at the new spells as new features...not fixing an old mistake'

Dae says, 'we're talking doing the quest 50 times for a cause mage for his spells'

Dae says, 'maybe more'

Dae says, 'if he didn't cast when he could have'

Kaige says, 'everyone has the same opportunity to get most of the spells at their earliest possible chance when they have the words'

LadyAce says, 'so it's not going to be *really* easy to get the new stuff in any case'

Kaige says, 'spellbooks allow everyone to get past that, so they're really a bonus in the long run to everyone.'

Can Imms See Cast Levels?

Sigrid says, 'ok, first part of question: is it posible for mighty beings (like imms) to see at what level a char got a certain skill or word?'

LadyAce says, 'we track it for spells, not skills'

Boreas says, 'I think they can see, but won't tell'

Kaige says, 'not easily and not in the game, no.'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sigrid says, 'ok, hm'

Sigrid says, 'oh, nevermind, i forgot my real question.. oops'

Newbies & Agg Mobs?

Dude says, 'why is there an agg mob so close to a newbie spawning ground in indus london =P'

Bart says, 'good eating?'

Kaige says, 'I thought that was pretty well answered earlier on chat. Besides, a little danger's always a good thing to bring people together'

Yohn says, 'i think maybe, at least, a downgrading to that problem would be to have the doors to the church close themselves, like it happens in Tara now-a-days'

Cadmus nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'to create crisis and bring people together rescuing each other. To inspire some sense of fear of the world at large and make conquering it more rewarding'

Dude says, 'yeah but a new player dying at like lvl 3 to a mob he has no idea exists cause someone left the board open'

Kaige says, 'and it's not like it's all bad for the newbies who wonder aimlessly in there'

Dude says, 'and having to regain all that xp is really unfair to him'

Bart says, 'and if the mud community would think to close the door after they open it...'

Boreas says, 'true newbies don't often go into hidden exit rooms. It is the oldbies spamming too many north that hit the vamp'

Kaige nods her agreement with Bart.

Yohn nods his agreement with Bart.

Dae says, 'you kidding? I open it for fun, just to watch them bad spammers run in there'

Yohn says, 'that would help too, of course'

Somar says, 'it just shocks me that Ptah put a newbiekiller 3 rooms away from the inn, while Fionn at least had the courtesy to place them 9 away'

Somar ducks to the ground.

Dude says, 'i just utilize like .0001% of my brain and remember the directions'

Dude says, 'a lot of ppl dont tho'

Yohn doesn't think it's that bad.

Emrysia died to the Vampire as a newbie 'cause she bumped into a wall, that wasn't really a wall. But nice people helped her out. :)

Dude says, 'just 3 rooms seems a really short distanec'

Kaige says, 'ptah at least freaking marked his! unlike the squirrels, the boars, or the wolves.'

Dae says, 'boars are the worst'

Bart grins evilly at Kaige.. wonder what he's thinking...

Cadmus snickers softly.

Dae says, 'they get you after you died!'

Cadmus nods his agreement with Kaige.

Yohn says, 'new players do not really speedwalk, so...'

Somar says, 'and the unseelie sidhes :P'

LadyAce giggles.

Boreas says, 'I hate the black snakes.'

Dude says, 'yeah but they dont really understand the danger of not looking where they are going'

Bart says to Somar, 'hey, there IS a warning board there'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Bart's head.

Straussy says, 'I was just a twinkle in the muds eye then'

Dude says, 'and if the board is open could wander in there'

Dae says, 'wow, tara is like the most dangerous newbie area'

Yohn nods his agreement with Bart.

Somar nods his agreement with Dae.

Dae says, 'never thought about it before'

Dude says, 'we're talking about 3 rooms from the damn inn tho'

Somar says, 'Fionn wasn't very nice!'

Dae says, 'it's got,...like 5 agg mobs'

LadyAce says, 'if you look before you walk, you wouldn't walk into the church as a newbie'

Dude says, 'do newbies no to look before they walk?'

Somar says, 'especially because there's no visible exit there'

Krynn says, 'it's normally overtype'

Dae nods solemnly.

Somar says, 'unless you know there's something there, which would only come from looking, it wouldn't make sense to go there'

Bart says, 'well then... it's a quick lesson for newbies to look before they leap'

Krynn says, 'the biggest newbie killer when running into vampires'

Dude says, 'looking for mice?'

Krynn says, 'they get comfy in london... then somebody leaves the door open'

Somar says, 'overtype is a sign of someone who's been playing and knows their way around anyway'

Cadmus nods his agreement with Bart.

Bart says, 'and if they learn it early enough then the damage is minimised'

Cadmus says, 'hey if they open the door it gives a warning =p'

Yohn says, 'i do not see the big difference from the builder's point of view, between 3 or 9 rooms. It's a question of people remembering to close the board. A new player exploring would get a warning when opening the board'

Cadmus says, 'all i gots to say'

Dude says, 'it just seems like a really bad thing to have 3 rooms from an inn in a hometown'

Kaige says, 'if everyone here helped new players learn how to play and they were never powerlevelled and drug about without being helped to learn where they were going, it probably wouldn't be as big an issue either'

Cadmus snickers softly.

Cadmus nods his agreement with Kaige.

Boreas says, 'yes, but the new player may think, "dangerous in there...but I'm level 5, I can handle it!"'

Yohn applauds Kaige's quick thinking and good judgment.

Somar says, 'hah! I don't powerlevel new players!'

Somar throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Dae whispers evilly in newbies ears...www.legenddb.com...

Yohn says, 'then the new player would learn humility:)'

Sigrid says to Kaige, 'aw, but its so much easier to powerlevel them than to actually talk to them and make them learn themself'

Kaige says, 'and with 8 years worth of experienced players that KNOW that danger is there, and see a new person in town. you'd think they'd give them a friendly warning'

LadyAce says to Dude, 'I think your concern is noted -- we've heard the objection and stuff, and the maintainer is here (Kaige) -- so I'm sure she'll take your comments into account anytime she's updating the area.'

Somar says, 'and I've given up greeting new players by giving them free manacles YEARS ago!'

Dude says, 'yeah well, if the immortals put a little more concern into pro new player stuff'

Cadmus says, 'bah i take newbies and teach them how to get to places when they are lost and of the dangers'

Yohn whaps Dae across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Dude says, 'then it wouldn't be an issue either'

Jenna flops about helplessly.

Bart thinks it's scarier that a level 15 cannot know their way from tara to agrabah and back.

Dae snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'hearing being not the same as agreeing :/ I think it's time to move on.'

Jenna snuggles up to Bart.

Cadmus says, 'they might think i become annoying since it takes forever to get to the area they want but it works for me'

Jenna says, 'my immie!'

Bart beams at Jenna delightedly.

Somar nods his agreement with Bart.

Cadmus says, 'brb'

Yohn thinks it's so sad when a level 50 asks for help to get from Kleinstadt to the Stag. OR 'can you get me that and that' and not knowing where it is...

Yohn nods his agreement with Bart.

Jenna pats Bart on the head.

Nexela nods solemnly.

Boreas says, 'I miss being a newbie'

Bart says to Yohn, 'well, I dont' know where some things are....'

Jenna says to Bart, 'like canada? ;-p'

Doors Closing Automatically?

Dae says, 'My question isn't a flame or anything, I just never saw a board on it, it's about the door thing in tara, is that on purpose?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Dae.

Dae says, 'closing and locking all the time'

Dae says, 'why just tara and no where else?'

Kaige says, 'and I've slowed it down again.'

Kaige says, 'not just tara.'

Somar says, 'it's not just tara'

Bart says, 'it's in Paris as well'

Yohn says, 'tara was updated?'

Somar says, 'they do that all over the mud'

Nexela HATES locking doors

Kaige says, 'tara's just where everyone goes so they notice it.'

Jenna says, 'it happened in paris too until someone fixed it'

Bart says, 'just playing with reset timers'

Jenna beams at Bart delightedly.

LadyAce says, 'nutso doors are most likely to be bugs -- report 'em as you see 'em.'

Bart nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says, 'tara was just where everyone relied on all the places being easily found and open and able to get into for the explore xp'

Bart says, 'if they're closing consistently within the space of a tick then let us know'

Sigrid says, 'yes, who did you guys pay to close and lock the doors all the time? as far as I know that doesn't happen often in real plces'

Dae says, 'should they lock tho?'

Dae says, 'I can understand xp room doors'

LadyAce says, 'I've seen doors slam and lock on their own.'

Kaige says, 'if that's the way they start up at reboot, yes'

Dude says, 'the evil tara door mob, obviously'

Dude says, 'heheheh'

Yohn says to Sigrid, 'kill the chamber maids maybe that helps?'

Dae says, 'I think that's the well daemon'

Dude says, 'oh yeah!'

Boreas says, 'construction wasn't so good back then. The dun is drafty.'

Sigrid says to Yohn, 'yea, slicin' be good'

Yohn says, 'in addition'

Yohn says, 'i think it would make sense if gawain had the key to his own room... (last i checked he hadn't, but i admit it's been a while)'

Adamar nods solemnly.

Dae says, 'just his chest I thought, altho I haven't been there in forever either'

Kaige says, 'it's on the todo list for there.'

Dae says, 'do player doors auto lock and close?'

Dae says, 'if not why so? =)'

LadyAce says, 'use idea to suggest that?'

Dae says, 'on houses that is'

Yohn nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'hm, on houses?'

Dae nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'gawain having his room key that is.'

LadyAce says, 'some people do like to leave their doors unlocked'

LadyAce says, 'for housing I mean'

Somar says, 'case in point, Alejandro'

Somar coughs loudly.

LadyAce says, 'open to the public to come in and have a snack :)'

Kaige says, 'on houses, they do reset at startup, but not in between on a schedule.'

Dae says, 'alejandro's house is a classic, I hope it never gets locked up'

Dae says, 'it's like a mueseum'

Somar says, 'the national spam museum?'

Dae snickers softly.

Yohn says, 'the national check your link'?'

CLANS RP and Screenlen?

Dae says, 'nah that's typing "clans RP"'

Dae says, 'that drops my link everytime'

Boreas says, 'just screenlen 0'

Yohn says to Dae, 'mine too'

Dae says, 'I do'

Yohn has screenlen 0 and is still crashed by clans rp

Dae says, 'it still kicks me heh'

Dae nods his agreement with Yohn.

Dae laughs with amusement.

Dae says, 'I bet she did it'

Kaige says, 'it'll work better if you set it to something OTHER than 0'

Kaige says, 'since that just says, spam my link with everything you've got'

Yohn nods his agreement with Dae.

Dae says, 'when we get mesmerize that's what I'll make people do'

Yohn knows she did it *kicks her player rl*.

Sigrid grins evilly.

Sigrid says, 'aye'

Commands and Mesmerize?

Dae says, 'Mesmerizes you and forces you to 'clans rp''

Kaige says to Dae, 'no you won't.'

Dae laughs with amusement.

Dude laughs with amusement.

Dae says, 'why not?'

Dae pouts at Kaige.

Sigrid kick Yohns player rl too.

Yohn says, 'bug abuse?'

Dae says, 'that's just mean'

Kaige says, 'it's just plain rude.'

Bart grins evilly at Kaige.. wonder what he's thinking...

Somar says, 'a) mesmerize isn't in'

Yohn gets into a good fight with sigrid's player.

Somar says, 'b), clans rp is two words :P'

Dae says, 'not if I'm trying to kill you!'

Dude says, 'plus... you run the risk of getting someone with broadband'

Dae says, 'it's no holds barred then'

Yohn says to Dae, 'i'd say trying to kill someone in the first place is rude enough'

Dae snorts derisively.

Kaige says, 'c) it won't work on ooc commands like that anyway'

Boreas says, 'it's almost ooc to do that, and pk should always be completely ic'

Dae laughs with amusement.

Yohn nods his agreement with Boreas.

Dae says, 'should be, and what it is unfortunatly isn't the same'

Yohn says, 'depends on the effort people put in'

Dae says, 'ah well =)'

Dae says, 'I can still dream of mesermizing people with junking/quit y, fun stuff like that'

Dae attempts to take cover.

Control Weather Duration?

Dae says, 'will the duration of a changed weather spell last longer than the duration it already is?'

Dae says, 'as now it's like 2 ticks for 400 mana if you want to build up a extreme'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we're up for tweaking the spell just yet'

Dae says, 'taking the chance of a fail and losing all your mana'

Dae says, 'right'

LadyAce says, 'after y'all get your cast levels hiked up ...'

Dude says, 'you should just yank the damn thing'

Dude snickers softly.

Dae says to Dude, 'looks like I don't have to get books!'

Boreas says, 'isn't it based on cast level and luck?'

Dae says, 'we tested it on perfect cast levels'

Dae says, 'the storm'

Boreas says, 'I saw Sallah make a storm that lasted a long time'

Kaige says, 'a lot of that is going to depend on where you're casting it. so if you notice a place that you get it to extreme and it immediate changes on you every time, put a note in the bug file for the builder to check on it.'

Dae says, 'relates the damage of chain lightning =P'

Cast Levels & Spellbooks?

HerbertWest says, 'assuming we had all the words and chanted them ages ago do we have a decent cast on it already or do we still need the books?'

Dae says, 'you have the cast levels'

Kaige says to HerbertWest, 'no, you don't need the books then'

Dae says, 'noooooo?'

HerbertWest says, 'groovy'

Cadmus says, 'problem is i dont remember =p'

Dae says to Kaige, 'you just threw off all my data!'

Dae cries on Kaige's shoulder.

Kaige says, 'if he chanted them at the time he got the words and was able to chant the spells, then no, you don't need them.'

HerbertWest says, 'might get the books anyway just in case'

Dae says, 'ah so my data was correct then'

RP Workshop?

Rusalka says, 'oh and if anyone was wondering about that TBA rp workshop'

Rusalka says, 'we're working on a catchy title'

Boreas says, 'oh yeah, I was'

LadyAce smiles at Rusalka.

Dude nods solemnly.

Dude says, 'yeah'

LadyAce beams at Rusalka delightedly.

Dude says, 'i was wondering about that...'

Cadmus says to Rusalka, 'im wondering on it actually'

Rusalka says, 'basically playing well with others'

Rusalka says to Dude, 'me too'

Dude says, 'why dont those ppl get busy with the planning?'

Dude snickers softly.

Rusalka nods her agreement with Dude.

Boreas says to Rusalka, 'RP Preschool?'

Rusalka says, 'making friends and influencing mobs'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Rusalka says, 'there will be a welcomg post in the next day or so i hope'

Rusalka says, 'it'll be workshop format'

Rusalka says, 'and an lt ad'

Changes for Surgeons?

HerbertWest says, 'are there any plans to make 100min 100spi surgeons any better?'

HerbertWest says, 'its my annual whine..'

Somar says, 'as if 100 mnd 100 spr surgeons didn't rock ;)'

Dae says, '100 spirit? who's cracked out enough to get 100 spirit?'

Kaige says to HerbertWest, 'nothing currently under discussion'

HerbertWest says, 'my core point is that theyre as good at 5th as they are at 50th which is not the same as EVERY other class that actually has some progression'

Bart nods his agreement with HerbertWest.

Somar says, 'so perhaps low level surgeons should be made suckier ;)'

Dae says, 'I still don't understand why people even make a surgeon, but that's just me being wierd'

LadyAce says to HerbertWest, 'the main scaling advantage is that their abilities go up with stats i.e. with rent'

Somar says, 'that would also make people more apt to take high level surgeons with them on xp runs ;)'

LadyAce says to HerbertWest, 'druids are the same way'

HerbertWest says to LadyAce, 'not at all theyre not'

Dude says to Dae, 'to give back to the community'

Dude snickers softly.

Bart says to Dae, 'yeah, heaven forbid that someone would want to make an assisting character'

HerbertWest says to LadyAce, 'a druid has poultice, then root, then augment'

Dae says to Dude, 'I can do that without being a surgeon'

HerbertWest says to LadyAce, 'that takes till 25th'

HerbertWest says to LadyAce, 'that takes till 35th even'

Dae says to Bart, 'I can assist, I augment, and I can assist myself'

Dae says to Bart, 'we both win, surgeons are a thing of the part'

Dae says, 'er past'

Dae raises a moose-hide pouch high in the air above his head.

HerbertWest says to LadyAce, 'whereas a surgeon has ALL of their stuff at 5th only difference is mana, and heal totals'

Boreas nods her agreement with HerbertWest.

Dude says, 'herbs are a pain'

LadyAce says to HerbertWest, 'well, mostly what it means is that you don't have to wait as long to get the good surgery stuff ... it's kind of a comparative advantage'

Dude says, 'i hate druids =P'

Dae says, 'nah'

Dae says, 'not for me =)'

Boreas says, 'an expert surgery skill around 25 would be nice'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Dae says, 'but I hoard n'stuff'

HerbertWest nods his agreement with Boreas.

Cadmus says, 'hmm yeah that would be cool'

Dude says, 'well i should say i hate playing them'

HerbertWest says, 'ive always maintained surgeons should be able to cure effects'

HerbertWest says, 'like blind, poison etc..'

HerbertWest says, 'through some form of advanced surgery skill'

Dae says, 'without materials?'

HerbertWest shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says to HerbertWest, 'yup, it's on the skills to write pile'

Boreas says, 'I've always wanted suture, so surgeons don't need bandages'

LadyAce says, 'so you can be a good surgeon early (advantage) but not as much room for growth (disadvantage) ... whereas with druids, they take lots of work early (disadvantage) but can turn out quite useful later on (advantage'

Kaige says, 'a medicate skill'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Dude says, 'should be a sedate skill...'

HerbertWest nods his agreement with Kaige.

HerbertWest says to Kaige, 'thats what im lookin for..'

Dae says, 'heh'

Cadmus laughs with amusement.

Dude says, 'i wanna be able to sedate myself'

Dude snickers softly.

HerbertWest says, 'just something MORE.. theyre SO tedious to play if you want a decent surgeon'

LadyAce says, 'fighter type chars as the same way ... easier to get going on, not so great later on....mages are tougher early, but shine through at the end'

Somar says, 'a lobotomy skill! that casts idiocy!'

Boreas says, 'bam bam bam bam I wanna be sedated'

Dae says, 'druid/mage/fighter combos!'

Dae flexes his bulging, impressive muscles.

Adamar sighs loudly.

Kaige giggles at Boreas.

Dude says, 'only special mages shine through...'

Dude points proudly at himself.

Cadmus says, 'half druids still worry me tho =p'

Dude snickers softly.

HerbertWest says, 'Half druids suck'

HerbertWest points proudly at himself.

HerbertWest points at Dae.

Dude says, '3 create mages scare me...'

Dae says, 'heh'

LadyAce says to HerbertWest, 'we definitely lack the "something more" in almost all areas but mages, really.'

Dude says, 'which means i scare myself'

Dude peers around the room intently.

Dude ponders his own existence - better keep an eye on him.

Bart points at Jenna.

LadyAce says to HerbertWest, 'it's a more broad problem unfortunately'

HerbertWest says, 'our augments are the same as a curecrit for roughly the same mana'

Dae says, 'yea, I do have to admit with all the changes to charmies 3c create does present more of a problem in the pk world'

HerbertWest says, 'does that make cause mages suck too?'

Dae says to HerbertWest, 'dude, our heals are so much cheaper than cure crit'

Cadmus says, 'and walls'

Cadmus spits on the ground.

Dae says to HerbertWest, 'like half the mana'

Dude says, '3c create mages have it all going for them...'

HerbertWest says to Dae, '35 vs 50'

Dude says, 'but cause is still better =P'

Adamar smiles happily.

Cadmus says, 'wall changes make 3c create very very scary'

Dae says, 'cure crit is not 50 mana'

Dae says, 'more like 60-70'

Somar says, 'blah'

Cadmus says to Dae, 'depends on the person's mind'

Dude says, 'they left stone wall immune too... even i would pk then'

Dude says, 'hehe'

Builder App: Quests?

Adamar says, 'hrm more of a builder proposal question'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Adamar.

Adamar says, 'in the proposal, how detail do you want the quests to be listed? i want to try out some new acts and spells but not sure how they would react'

LadyAce says to Adamar, 'tell it like a story'

Adamar nods solemnly.

LadyAce says to Adamar, 'it doesn't need to be like code'

Adamar says, 'ok'

Dude says to Adamar, 'tell us a story uncle adamar!'

Adamar grins evilly.

Bart says to Adamar, 'no need to go into code details etc, explain the structure of the quests'

Kaige says, 'a walk through -- how you would tell someone else how to accomplish the quest'

Rusalka says, 'you arn't expected to know our scripting'

LadyAce says, 'it should be clear how the story might play out in the game ("and then all the little fairies picked him up and carried him away to neverneverland" might be a bit odd)'

History Archive?

Adamar says, 'i have a question for rusalka about the story archive'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'cool :)'

Adamar says, 'is it basically a creative writing assignment with history of legend'

Rusalka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rusalka says, 'sort of'

Adamar says, 'cuz i have a few stories which you may find amusing'

Rusalka says, 'i want things based on actual history'

Rusalka says, 'needs to be stuff that happeend'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'on the mud'

Boreas says, 'but many areas are based on fiction...'

Rusalka says, 'preferably by people that were actually there, ic or ooc'

Rusalka says, 'this is about our own history'

Adamar says, 'like how doc hired an assassin to take your swwet nothing earrings?'

Rusalka says, 'the history of our own rp and community'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Adamar.

Adamar says, 'for cheap too'

Rusalka says, 'write it from the viewpoint you had of it'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Adamar.

Rusalka says, 'either as a participant, a bystander'

Rusalka says, 'et al'

Rusalka says, 'all viewpoints are good :)'

Adamar nods solemnly.

Bart comforts Rusalka.

Adamar says, 'and you wont' slay me'

Adamar says, 'after i tell'

Rusalka says, 'but base it on what you saw yourself'

Adamar cringes away from Rusalka in mortal terror.

Rusalka giggles.

Rusalka giggles at Bart.

Boreas says, 'I wish I played back when things happened'

Boreas sniffs sadly.

Bart says to Adamar, 'no promises there :)'

Cadmus says to Rusalka, 'can we write about ronnie?'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Cadmus's head.

Adamar nods his agreement with Bart.

Rusalka says to Cadmus, 'if it's based on your own observations of him, sure'

HerbertWest says to Cadmus, 'I was thinking the same thing actually'

Cadmus says to Rusalka, 'its kinda vulgar =p'

Rusalka says, 'i don't want people taking a character and like coming up with stuff that never happened'

HerbertWest says, 'like it or not Ronnie was one of the best things about this mud for a LONG time'

Rusalka says to Cadmus, 'you'll need to follow the same rules as chat'

Dae says, 'ronnie?'

Dae says, 'pfft'

Cadmus says to Rusalka, 'doh!'

Cadmus giggles.

Rusalka ponders Adamar's existence.

Rusalka giggles.

HerbertWest says to Dae, 'you loved him too dont you try act tough'

HerbertWest sticks his tongue out at Dae. =P

Rusalka says to Cadmus, 'can't be overstated'

Rusalka giggles.

Dude says, 'so you dont wanna hear about the time dae and i sold legendmud to the indians for 22 glass beads?'

Dae says, 'he was alright, but he couldn't ever control himself'

Rusalka shakes her head.

Dae nods his agreement with Dude.

LadyAce giggles at Dude.

Rusalka says, 'i want stuff you peopel DID :)'

Dae says to Dude, 'that was fun'

Adamar looks up into the sky and ponders.

Dude jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Dae!

Rusalka says, 'stuff that we'll all forget in five years'

Kaige says, 'like the time the secretives took over Africa'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Kaige.

Adamar says, 'hrm, what if i forget the details? can i just make it up'

Cadmus says to Rusalka, 'oh can it be something that is pointed towards certain imms to?'

Rusalka sighs loudly.

HerbertWest says, 'Like my Sex Ed conference! boooyah!'

HerbertWest throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Kaige says, 'back when we had active secretives being secretive and stuff'

LadyAce says, 'it's supposed to be true. No making stuff up.'

Rusalka says to Adamar, 'emboidering is fine but base it on the actual events'

Adamar says, 'blah, everybody was a secretive for a while'

Rusalka nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka says, 'i never was'

Kaige wasn't!

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Dae says, 'akai_hayate would have a field day with this, he remembers everything, in his own skewed way'

Dude says, 'ahh... so my ooc affair with dae's sister wouldn't be printed, huh?'

Rusalka says, 'i mean, many of us have written up a fuller narrative based on a rp'

Dude says to Dae, 'tell her i said hi'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Dude.

Nexela smiles happily.

Dae goes ACK TTTHHHHHPPPPPTTTTT! all over Dude - what a mess!

Rusalka says, 'and that's fine'

Rusalka says, 'but i want it to be about things that happened'

Rusalka says, 'oh, and a later perspective is good too'

Rusalka says, 'i.e. and it turned out that Africa wasn't worth taking over after all'

Adamar says, 'does it have to IC stories or can they be OOC stuff too'

Rusalka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rusalka says, 'i'd have to read to judge'

Rusalka says, 'depends on the ooc'

Adamar says, 'ie. i want to say something about katya and hunter rose's marriage'

Rusalka says, 'stuff like the development of the mud'

Adamar says, 'RL vs MUD'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'that could be really interesting'

LadyAce says, 'well, I think we might want to get people's OKs before we print things about their private lives'

Rusalka says to Kaige, 'hm. i may have to verify that peopel are the characters whos points of view they claim to write from :)'

Dae nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Bart nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'it's one thing to print stuff about mud RP, but .... well, I wouldn't want any of my RL written about'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Rusalka says to LadyAce, 'my thoughts exactly'

Rusalka says, 'oh, and NO SLANDER'

Rusalka says, 'no stuff about who had mudsex with who'

Cadmus laughs with amusement.

Dae laughs with amusement.

Dude says, 'ppl do that?'

Dae says, 'well damn, that's like half my ideas'

Cadmus says, 'no bandcamp stories?'

Rusalka says, 'ooc could come into play..ie the development of the mud'

Rusalka says, 'etc'

Rusalka says, 'but the focus should be on the in game rp/pkill community stories'

Rusalka says, 'etc'

Rusalka says, 'that's a netural term'

Dae says, 'can we pull from old LT's'

Dae says, 'and nat's war page"'

Adamar says, 'well, katy and hunter was the first marriage'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Dae.

Cadmus says to Rusalka, 'and funny stories of screw ups?'

Rusalka says, 'but keep it from your point of view'

Dude says to LadyAce, 'well listen to the guy...'

Dae says, 'nice'

Adamar says, 'that started all the marriage craze,'

Rusalka says to Dae, 'don't take someone'e write up from before you started playing and do a story'

Rusalka says, 'actually'

Rusalka says, 'dante and what's her name'

Rusalka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rusalka says, 'they were first'

Kaige says, 'Megwan?'

Adamar shrugs helplessly.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Dae says, 'yea they didn't happen I thought?'

Kaige says, 'and the sheep'

Kaige snickers softly.

Rusalka says, 'they just ended up dying for love'

Rusalka giggles.

Dae says, 'she thought he said something and it got called off'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka giggles.

Dae says, 'I think'

Adamar smiles happily.

Rusalka says, 'very tragic'

Boreas says, 'ramadan tells of story of somebody claiming they were first but I forget'

Kaige says, 'especially for the sheep'

Dae snickers at Kaige nastily.

Kaige says, 'well the SHEEP died too'

Kaige sulks in the corner.

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'i think a lot of this will be clearer once we start getting a few up'

Rusalka says, 'easier to see by example'

LadyAce says, 'so ... does anyone else have a question? Otherwise, I'd say we're done.'

LadyAce says, 'okie :) thanks for coming, all'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Rusalka smiles at LadyAce.

LadyAce waves happily.

Kaige says, 'same time next week'

Rusalka says to LadyAce, 'thanks for letting me babble'

Kaige waves happily.

Kaige says, 'with a bigger update list to post'

Kaige giggles.

Dae sinks his teeth into Kaige's flesh.

Rusalka giggles.

Kaige says, 'off to find food here.'

Kaige gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige waves happily.

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