October 18th, 2001

Prize Machine Contents?

AgentNitz says, 'would it be at all possible to get a plaque or something saying what's in the prize machine?'

AgentNitz says, 'i just think it'd be nice to know what's possible to get'

AgentNitz says, 'before you use your precious token'

LadyAce says to AgentNitz, 'It's possible, but I don't want to do it.'

AgentNitz says, 'oh'

AgentNitz says, 'mkay'

Timmy nods his agreement with AgentNitz.

LadyAce says, 'I want people to take a chance, and just see what happens.'

Timmy giggles at Dashiva.

Dashiva says, 'what does it have in it's machine! my preciousssss'

LadyAce says, 'not keep the token'

LadyAce says, 'hoarding is bad'

Ainvar looks up into the sky and ponders.

Timmy says, 'hoarding is goooooood'

Dashiva says, 'then let's slay alejandro'

Ainvar says, 'hoarding is human nature (for some)'

Dashiva says, 'the worst hoarder of them all!'

Timmy snickers at Dashiva nastily.

Kae says, 'alejandro doesn't hoard *tokens* :)'

AgentNitz says, 'but it's also nice to know what you might get before you use a token that's hard to come by'

LadyAce says, 'well, I'd prefer to discourage it in the case of tokens.'

LadyAce says, 'you can ask around'

Timmy says to Kae, 'he might as well, he hoards everything else :p'

Dashiva says, 'yea ask alejandro'

AgentNitz nods his agreement with LadyAce.

AgentNitz laughs with amusement.

AgentNitz says, 'i'll do that next time :o)'

Perm Affects in Status?

Dashiva says, 'will items with a perm affect ever get a message in status or have a visual affect when worn/removed?'

LadyAce doesn't know. Could be on to do list?

LadyAce raises her eyebrow at Ea!.

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'I wanna say it's on there already'

Ea! says, 'I'm pretty sure that one is on our list, just not sure when we'll get to it.'

Another Create Heal Spell?

Timmy says, 'ok about this create healing spell thing, is there ever going to be another healing spell for creates? i mean i like the balm but it takes too darn long'

LadyAce says, 'after the new formula has been in a while, we'll see what we need to do'

Timmy nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kae says, 'I know a 3c create heal spell has been suggested, but I think it's like, in the future?'

Timmy says, 'thats what i was wondering'

LadyAce says, 'well, I'm not sure we'd solve it with a 3c spell in particular, either'

Dashiva withdraws inward and attempts to make roots, but only a vile balm is created!

Dashiva screams loudly!

Dashiva runs away and hurls himself off the nearest cliff.

Ea! says, 'We'll probably wait for a few months to evaluate it. Maybe it'll be sooner, but I wouldn't count on it.'

Kae says, 'so to sum up: we're considering, be patient :)'

Ea! says, 'We've got enough other things to worry about...'

Timmy says, 'i think it'd be better with 3C spell, since cause have pretty much 2 healing spells :p'

Timmy says, 'if you're 3c rather'

Rudolf says, 'I like the balm. It's even better at low levels.'

Tobias says, 'Balm is spiffy from what I've used.'

Kae says, 'I like it with my level 50 morts'

Dashiva says, 'I like balm too'

Dashiva says, 'good for mulching =P'

Rudolf says, 'I'm level 17 with 60 mind and it absolutely rocks.'

Kae says, 'hadta adjust tactics, sure, but it seems worth it'

Timmy says, 'i like the balm too, but i dont wanna wait around and heal since she runs alone anyway :p'

Sandman says, 'balm is good for regen.. but if your being chased.. its worthless..'

Rudolf says, 'It seems as fast as first aid, and lots of pkillers use that.'

Rudolf says, 'well, as fast if you have 100 mind.'

Kae nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'well, compared to cure light....'

Kae shudders.

Rudolf says, 'and it leaves more mana for fight'n!'

Dashiva diligently works on his augmenter.

Tobias says, 'and you don't have lag using it once its in effect.'

Tobias grins evilly.

Timmy giggles at Dashiva.

Dashiva says to Sandman, 'see, I gave in'

Sandman shrugs helplessly.

Dashiva says to Sandman, 'it's for the best, really'

Timmy works on his 4 characters in the upper 40 levels.

Sandman nods solemnly.

Sandman says, 'i love it for mobkill.. pk is another story'

Herra smiles at Dashiva.

LadyAce says, 'at any rate, I guess you know where we're at on that one.'

Hell Progress?

Herra says, 'I have a question for you actually Kae, since I think you are the one heading up the project'

Herra says, 'Kae, I wanted to ask you about when the new Hell area is going to go in'

Kae giggles.

Kae says, 'that's a good one'

Herra says, 'or even how far along you are on it'

Kae says, 'I'm still hoping to see beta test of at least the upper levels of it this year -- I won't get more precise than that'

Herra nods her agreement with Kae.

Tobias says, 'oh, that's right...year is ending soon.'

Kae says, 'because it all will depend on tester availability, severity of bugs, and whatnot'

Herra says, 'I'll test!'

Sandra says, 'and my pickiness!'

Timmy snickers softly.

Ainvar says, 'Is there a need for testers, and if so, any reqs?'

Herra says, 'gladly'

Kae says, 'for what it's worth, it's the largest area on legend, or rather, it will be'

Herra says, 'hell used to be like my home'

Tobias whistles appreciatively.

LadyAce says, 'Morts can't test.'

Tobias says to Kae, 'I can't wait!'

Sandra says to Ainvar, 'yea, you have to be at least lvl 51'

Ainvar says, 'ah heh. ok'

Rudolf says, 'I miss hell so much.'

Rudolf says, 'It was my favorite area.'

Tobias says, 'make me level 51? ^_~'

Tobias ducks to the ground.

Herra says to LadyAce, 'maybe I wont be by then! :P'

Kae says, 'I can't say whether we will end up needing morts for special testing, but it's not likely -- usually we try to avoid giving 'previews' like that'

Timmy says to Kae, 'niiiiiiice so i still have lots of time to read that long arse book'

Ainvar says, 'ahhh'

Kae says to Rudolf, 'I'm afraid it won't be much like Flagg's hell :)'

Rudolf says to Kae, 'so long as it's in the same spirit, I'll be pleased.'

Kae says, 'well, it's definitely based on the same literary work :)'

Sandman says to Kae, 'i want first dibs darn it'

Rudolf says to Kae, 'I love your areas too, so I'm not worried.'

Kae giggles.

Timmy says, 'at least sandra's not killing the area with evilness :p'

Timmy ducks to the ground.

Ainvar says, 'Did people ever give a thought to having a variety of hell-type areas for the different periods/cultures?'

Kae says, 'area, I've only done one :)'

Sandra says to Timmy, 'are you sure?'

Sandman says, 'yeah we're having hades and hell'

Kae says to Ainvar, 'yeah, Hades isn't Roman-Latin at all'

Timmy says to Sandra, 'you know what, i can never be sure of anything with you :p'

Sandra winks suggestively at Timmy.

Kae says, 'besides, with all the people having a hand in Hell, who says we're not competing to out-evil Sandra?'

Kae winks suggestively.

Sandra says to Kae, 'only one person can outdo my evilness'

Kaige made lots of new code this weekend that'll help with the evilness!

Timmy says to Sandra, 'and i have a couple of questions if you have a moment later :p'

Kae says to Sandra, 'oh?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Timmy.

Sandra says, 'I didn't think it was possible, but I saw it the other day.'

Dashiva says, 'was it a immy?'

Sandman says, 'i have a quesion but its related to a note i received'

Kae says, 'it's not a question of what areas we'd like, unfortunately, but of what we get'

Sandman jumps up and down.

Sandra nods her agreement with Dashiva.

Herra says, 'I think an interesting area that has never been touched on here is Machu Pichu'

Herra says, 'potential for booby traps and quests galore'

Kaige says, 'Ptah had plans for it, but never got to the actual macchu pichu part'

Herra says to Kaige, 'neat, that would be neat'

Kaige says, 'it's on my todo list at some point cause I want to turn peru into a hub like england as originally planned'

Kaige nods her agreement with Herra.

Herra says to Kaige, 'I might be interested in continuing that'

Luckstone Changes?

Sandman says, 'this is a bit strange and kaige answered this but.. i have a feeling something was changed and i didnt know =p'

Sandman says, 'luckstones'

Sandra says, 'no they weren't changed'

Sandra's smart, she knows the question already.

Timmy snickers softly.

Sandman says, 'how is it a friend has a +4 and i have +3?'

Sandman sticks his tongue out at Sandra. =P

Sandra says, 'I'm gonna stick with my answer'

Timmy says, 'they always been random silly'

Kaige says, 'they haven't been changed since the +hit and +dam stuff went it.'

Sandman says, 'and his is more rent same stats other than hit'

Sandman says, 'ok so when did we have random +hit/dam stuff?'

LadyAce says, 'that's been an option since random stats went in'

Kae says, 'let's see, it wasn't new when I created Malta...'

Sandman says, 'i know random stats.. but didnt think that meant dam and hit too'

Sandra says, 'yepyep'

Sandman says, 'baaaaaaah!'

LadyAce says, 'same mechanism'

Kaige says, 'the hit & dam stuff was like MArch April 2000?'

Sandman says, 'you know how long i gotta try for the right luckstones then? =p'

Kaige says to Sandman, 'look at it this way... everyone else too'

Quest Problems

Aziza says, 'well i messed up on the quest and gave the wrong item to the wrong mob and now i can't get the item back is it a bug or am i doomed?'

Dashiva says, 'DOooOOooOOOmeD!'

Sandman snickers at Dashiva nastily.

LadyAce says, 'usually you can recover from those sorts of problems.'

Sandra says, 'well, lemme put it bluntly'

Sandra says, 'I can't make that quest any more self explainitory than it is. The fact that they pretty much tell you where to go, what to get, and what to do with it, seems to totally escape people'

Sandra says, 'is there some sort of quest page out there that's giving the wrong info again?'

Dashiva laughs with amusement.

Sandman says to Sandra, 'prolly =p'

Spike snickers softly.

Sandman ducks to the ground.

Kae says, 'I checked LegendDb, I think it's actually not listing it yet'

Aziza says, 'no i just screwed it up'

Dashiva says, 'are you talking about rudh?'

Spike nods his agreement with Dashiva.

Dashiva says, 'what quest?'

Aziza says, 'got amulet messed up with pendant'

Dashiva says, 'rudh is simple once someone tells you how'

Sandman snickers at Dashiva nastily.

Dashiva says, 'hehe'

Kae says, 'you don't need "someone"'

Sandra says, 'it's simple period. The mobs TELL YOU WHAT TO DO'

Kae says, 'but you do need to listen to the mobs'

Sandra says to Aziza, 'ask me after the q&a'

Aziza says to Sandra, 'thanks'

Blind then Dip

Sandman says, 'ok this is more so a beef then a question'

Sandman says, 'blind... and moves.. i hate it'

Kaige says, 'you're feeling your way along... moves are too cheap in general as it is.'

Sandra says, 'you have enough mv, suck it up =P'

Sandman says, 'within 2 mins i am out of moves'

Dashiva says, 'heh'

Dashiva says, 'you need a straw? to suck it up!'

Dashiva throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Spike snickers softly.

Sandman says, 'let me break it down real fast'

Sandman says, 'i was in tara'

Kae bites her tongue.

Sandman says, 'i was fightin at the inn'

Spike snickers at Kae nastily.

Sandman says, 'i rented it off.. went to xroads got blinded'

Kae still thinks we can travel too fast from one end of the world to the other.

Spike says to Kae, 'i have an idea what you'er thinkin :p'

Sandman says, 'i ran back to rent it off.. i went back to xroads got blinded =p'

Sandra says, 'personally, I think all you little newbie pkillers have it too easy. =P'

Sandman says, 'on the way back to inn i was out of moves =p'

Dashiva says, 'oh man, the last thing you need to do is put a lag on walking or make endless rooms of the same stuff to simulate distance'

Sandra says, 'Why when I was a pkiller...!'

Sandman says, 'i have 573 moves.. it went that fast =p'

Sandra rambles.

Kaige says, 'carry a cure for that with you?'

LadyAce says, 'walk a little slower.'

LadyAce says, 'smell the unseen roses'

Kae says to Dashiva, 'I know that, don't expect me to get my way :)'

Sandman says, 'i carry 7 clears with me as it is'

Dashiva says, 'don't move so much'

Sandra says, 'use 'em? ;)'

Dashiva says, 'just spam backstab or something'

Spike says to Sandra, 'that was a loooooooong time ago wasnt it?'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'you had to walk over to the other guys house and bash him on the head with his keyboard?'

Sandman says, 'i dooooo and then i run out and have to rent it off'

Dashiva snickers at Kae nastily.

Spike snickers at Kaige nastily.

Sandman says, 'dip lasts way too long'

Dashiva says, 'oldstyle pk'rs are weenies!'

Sandra says to Spike, 'yep, when I pkilled, we just had to go over and yell at each other til one gave in. We had no weapons.'

Sandman says, 'thats the basis of my story =p'

Spike snickers at Sandra nastily.

Kae says, 'I remember when I first fought Sandra's mort, I could hear her yell all across the Atlantic, so she won'

Sandman says, 'a little vial dips a whole quiver for like 5+ ticks'

Sandra giggles.

Kaige says, 'and dip is one of the things we're talking about..'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kae says, 'of course, if the wind had gone in the other direction...'

Sandman says, 'it should be a druid skill or a skill nonetheless..'

Sandra says to Kae, 'I'd have turned my head and yelled louder ;)'

Spike snickers at Kae nastily.

Sandman says, 'i may have missed that earlier..'

Kae giggles.

Sandman peers around the room intently.

Spike claps for Sandra approvingly.

Dashiva says, 'make druids have the venom skill for all these diffrent venoms that snipers can't get, but have to use druids for!'

Sandman says, 'whats the word on dip then?'

Dashiva has boundless ideas for that

Sandra says, 'we're still discussing it'

Sandman says, 'discussing as in.. how it works?'

Ea! says, 'I think "working on a rewrite" is accurate.'

Dashiva says, 'just demolish archdruids lab and.....bwaaaahahah druid power'

Sandman says, 'niiiiiiice'

Sandra says, 'trying to figure out how many different words we can make from the letters d-i-p'

Kaige says, 'basically that we're discussing it but it seems wrong that it should be working the way it does, same probably as the greek oil thing brought up last week'

Sandman says, 'hey i like the greek oil =p'

Dashiva says, 'whats wrong with the greek oil?'

Sandman says, 'of course it shouldnt last forever.. maybe 2-3 times but not forever'

Spike says to Sandra, 'how many have you come up with?'

Sandman says, 'you can re-use a flask of oil over and over'

Sandra says, 'one'

Dashiva says, 'so, it's not like it's doing TONS of extra damage'

Sandman says, 'no its not doing extra damage.. its more so that the oil doesnt empty'

Dashiva says, 'it really isn't a problem then'

Ainvar chuckles politely.

Dashiva says, 'if it isn't hurting anything'

Kaige says, 'resources that are intended to be used up that don't get used up = problem in the long run'

Sandman nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sandman says, 'i want to buy more but i dont have to atm =p'

Dashiva gets a roll of bandages from under his black cloak.

Dashiva carefully unrolls the last stretch of a roll of bandages.

Dashiva takes off his quiver of arrows.

Dashiva gets a tinderbox from under his black cloak.

Dashiva puts a tinderbox in under his black cloak.

Sandman laughs with amusement.

Dashiva says, 'hm'

Dashiva says, 'no oil'

Dashiva says, 'used to be able to flame arrows ooc'

Sandman gets a flask of Greek fire oil from a deerskin bag.

Dashiva grins evilly.

Sandman gets a tinderbox from a deerskin bag.

After dousing a quiver of unmarked pine arrows in a flask of Greek fire oil, Sandman uses a tinderbox to ignite a quiver of unmarked pine arrows.

Dashiva says, 'see'

Dashiva says, 'I know I bugged that a while ago'

Dashiva says, 'but nooooooooo'

Kaige says, 'yup and it's still on our list'

Sandman says, 'i didnt even know that..'

Dashiva taunts Sandman mercilessly.

Dashiva says, 'yea'

Dashiva says, 'used to do it till I realized that flame arrows don't compete with blind'

Sandman says, 'i know you can rent with it and come back with it on fire'

Sandman says, 'thats a bug i think'

Sandman says to Kaige, 'that a bug?'

Dashiva begins using a quiver of arrows.

Kaige says, 'that burning things don't go out when you rent?'

Sandman says, 'right'

Sandman nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says, 'sounds right to me otherwise if your gear started burning, everyone'd just say "oh, jsut rent it off!"'

Kaige rolls her eyes heavenward.

Ea! says, 'The bug is that you can rent off the other affects.'

Ea! giggles.

Anything Upcoming?

Dashiva says, 'anything new and exciting debuting on legend in the next few weeks?'

Dashiva says, 'something I can look forward too?'

Sandra says, 'maybe'

Dashiva says, 'heh'

Spike says, 'maybe?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Doppels & Reload?

Kae says, 'actually, is there a reason why doppels can't reload bows from quivers they're wearing? Or am I just displaying my blond ignorance again?'

Sandra says, 'I haven't had a problem with that'

Dashiva hasn't either.

Kae says, 'that's weird, I swear mine can't -- but I'll test it some more and get a precise log, then'

Spike hasn't either.

Sandra says, 'are you ordering too fast? Remember there's a round lag'

Kae says, 'nuh, waiting 20 seconds :)'

Homunculi Drop Stuff?

Sandman says, 'are homies supposed to drop things on them when you die or they get ditched?'

LadyAce says, 'i wouldn't think so'

Sandman says, 'because it reaaaaaaally sucks if you have a lot and you die.. and they have a lot on them.. like cash..'

Sandman sighs loudly.

Ea! says, 'kill 'em.'

Sandman says, 'well i cant kill em after i die they poof real fast'

Sandra says, 'i know doppels do. I thought homunculi would too?'

Kaige says, 'doppels pop... homunuli run back to their own plane'

Sandman says, 'hmm true'

Ea! says, 'Doppels do if they get poofed, not if they die.'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'they leave a corpse if they die'

Ea! nods solemnly.

Sandman says, 'is there a way to make them stay if they have gear on them?'

Sandman says, 'homies that is'

Ea! says, 'I'm not sure.'

Kaige says, 'well but I'm saying in regards to why they would drop stuff and homunculi wouldn't when the player dies and they lose control of them'

Sandman says, 'say i die and they have gear.. it prevents them from going to the plane'

Sandra says, 'ugh, just what we need, 30 homuncul with a bandage'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Sandman laughs with amusement.

Kae snickers softly.

Kae says, 'might be possible to make them stick around a bit longer after you die, though'

Sandman says, 'that would be very helpfull'

Sandman says, 'then i could do a room spell and kill them all!'

Sandman throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Sandman says, 'instead of coming in game and they already gone =p'

Charms Refusing to Attack?

Herra says, 'a couple days ago I made some charmies and agged em up, and they wouldnt attack when I ordered all kill (mob)'

Ea! says to Herra, 'What were you ordering them to kill?'

Herra says, 'I was ordering them to kill cian'

Sandman says, 'agg does have some lag'

Kaige says, 'how many of them did you have? trying to order at once?'

Herra says, 'I had 2 seasoned, an elite and 2 great swords'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'so 5 total'

Herra says, 'and I typed order all kill CIan'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Herra shrugs helplessly.

Ea! says, 'I'm not sure what was up. I'd have to see it...'

Herra says, 'it was wierd'

Kaige says, 'I don't think that would have prevented them from being able to fight, but I wanna say I saw something weird about that recently. which is why I thought of it.'

Herra says, 'and only happened for a little while that day'

Stunned & Backstab?

Goin'fission says, 'when i am brawling with a cause mage and bound, or in a no flee room or whatever'

Goin'fission says, 'and i get a gun stun, why cant i backstab? it doesnt make much sense'

Dashiva says, 'way overpowered'

Goin'fission says, 'it may be over powered, but gun stuns are rare, and there is no way to take advantage of them'

Sandra says, 'combat would have to stop for you to be able to backstab'

Goin'fission says, 'that doesn't make sense though'

Dashiva says, 'mabye combat should stop on stuns?'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Dashiva.

Sandman says, 'that would suck if they did'

Kaige says, 'why? you stun them, why are you gonna stop hitting them?'

Kaige peers around the room intently.

Goin'fission says, 'to backstab'

Kaige says, 'calm then'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Goin'fission says, 'the only thing that competes with immolate or flamestrike or whatever it is'

Ea! says, 'Headbutt would suck. You'd stun them and not be able to reattack them until the lag wears off.'

Dashiva says, 'well, I also think you shouldnt hit someone back that's hitting you if you don't type kill or a skill'

Sandman nods his agreement with Ea!.

Goin'fission says to Ea!, 'true that'

Goin'fission says, 'but if they are stunned anyway, what's to stop you from shanking em?'

Sandman says, 'i still think its dumb you can miss completely on a stunned mob =p'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Sandman.

Ea! says, 'One sidded combat would be a major rewrite of our code. Not worth it.'

Dude glances around the room.

Sandman says, 'you wfw you miss 5/5'

Sandman spits on the ground.

Dashiva nods his agreement with Ea!.

Kaige says, 'it's the idea of character knowledge vs player knowledge tho... if someone walks up and hits you on the street out of the blue...what're you gonna do... flee (wimpy) or start hitting back most likely'

Goin'fission says, 'or a stunned mob will jump out of the way of a bash'

Ea! says, 'stunned doesn't mean "unable to move", it just means out of it. Also, remember the hit/miss stuff takes armor into account.'

Dashiva says, 'there's like a 5% chance a skill will fail'

Dude says, 'how about a paralyzed person jumping out of the way of a bash?'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Dude.

Dashiva says, 'heh'

Goin'fission says, 'that's what i'm talkin about'

Sandman says, 'para or stun either way they can dodge it =p'

Kae says, 'well, to an extent it's also that the messages combine oddly sometimes, which is almost impossible to avoid'

Dude says, 'or a sleeping person dodging a backstab?'

Dashiva says, 'I like how tumble works sitting'

Ea! says, 'that one's just waiting on me rewriting the message that bash gives on a fail.'

Sandra says, 'I'd say good for the basher. Otherwise they're an idiot for trying to bash someone para'd =P'

Sandman nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandman snickers softly.

Ea! says, 'So instead of saying that they dodge, it says your bash attempt sucks in some way.'

Tobias waves happily.

Dashiva laughs with amusement.

Dude says, 'sleeping and dodling a backstab? how about that one? =P'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Dude.

Kae says, 'you trip over your own damn feet instead of landing a bash, eh?'

Dashiva says, 'your feeble fist bounces harmlessly off Dashiva's huge chest.'

Goin'fission says, 'or stunned and dodging a BS =P'

Kaige says, 'you aim sucked and hit just their shirt collar?'

Ea! says to Kae, 'Yeah, something like that.'

Dude says, 'uh-huh'

Sandman snickers softly.

Kae says to Ea!, 'yeah, it's the messages, not the code itself'

Ea! nods solemnly.

Sandra has to go.

Sandra waves happily.

Goin'fission says, 'i still think you ought to be able to snake a BS in when they are Gun-stunned'

Kae says, 'well, instead of you missing on the sleeping person it could say, You damn near well cut off your own finger, you twit!'

Goin'fission says, 'if you are saying that is too powerful, then remove Bind'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'you can'

Kae says, 'end result is the same :)'

Goin'fission says to Sandman, 'they dont stun for more than a round or two'

Sandman says, 'you can move from a bind..'

Goin'fission says, 'with a bubble'

Goin'fission says, 'bubbly rather'

LadyAce says, 'or 'you move into position above the stunned $N, but are suddenly filled with remorse. You lose your nerve, and slink back into the shadows.''

Sandman says, 'sometimes you get in a bs sometimes they wake up.. shrug'

Kaige giggles at LadyAce.

Kae giggles.

LadyAce tugs on Ea!'s sleeve imploringly.

LadyAce tugs on Kaige's sleeve imploringly.

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'you can move while binded'

Sandman says, 'its not likely but it can be done'

Goin'fission says, 'how's that?'

Ea! says, 'There's a chance of overpowering the binding if I remember right.'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Ea!.

Sandman says, 'yup'

LadyAce says, 'yanking yourself out etc'

Sandman says, 'i like that.. its a slim chance but it helps when it happens =p'

Goin'fission says, 'i would still like to be able to BS without fleeing on a gun stun'

Goin'fission says, 'nobody has explained to me why not yet =P'

Kaige says, 'because combat would have to stop first, like Sandra said.'

Goin'fission looks up into the sky and ponders.

Goin'fission says, 'combat already stopped for them =P'

Kaige says, 'for them... but not you.'

Ea! says, 'No, it's still going.'

Kaige says, 'which is who it has to stop for in order for you to backstab.'

Ea! says, 'Well, technically, it stops for a pulse, then you hit them, and it picks up.'

Goin'fission says, 'why is that?'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Ea!.

Kaige says, 'they're just not swinging.'

Goin'fission says, 'you aren't fighting in between rounds, and if they are stunned, you should be able to shank them'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'because if we had to stop on every stun it would reaaaaally suck'

Kaige says, 'yes you are... combat is only broken into rounds for clarity of being able to read it.'

Kaige says to Sandman, 'that too'

Goin'fission says, 'ok'

Goin'fission says, 'i see what youre saying... but it still doesn't make sense to me'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'ok say you stun someone.. you get lag.. they wake up before you can even get your backstab in anyway'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'thats how it would suck.. it wouldnt work anyway'

Goin'fission says, 'that aint always true though'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'you have shoot lag.. once it stuns them you lag.. they wake up before you could do anything because your not hitting them'

Goin'fission says, 'i get 2 round gun stuns, sandman =P'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'then they backstab you!'

Sandman cringes in terror.

Ea! says, 'Basically, think of it this way: backstab is a skill that can only be used to initiate combat. It takes a lot of preperation. You'd have to stop fighting to do it.'

Goin'fission says, 'if you are beating on someone who ain't movin anyway'

Ea! says, 'You can't stop fighting, even when people are stunned -- out of game, it's because that's the way the code works, in game, you can think of it as giving up your advantage.'

Ea! says, 'I'm not sure why you think stunned people aren't moving.'

Dude says, 'if that were true about the preperation... then why can you flee backstab a paraed person like 3 times =P'

Kaige says, 'you're already getting bonus damage for a long two rounds, be happy'

Ea! says, 'They can't control their actions and so forth, but that doesn't mean they aren't moving.'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Dude.

Goin'fission says, 'ever seen someone who got shot with a .45? =P'

Ea! says to Dude, 'Because you're fleeing away and then reapproaching. Leaving the melee.'

Goin'fission says, 'they dont move much'

Ea! says, 'Same reason why you can rescue out of it.'

Ea! says to Goin'fission, 'Depends on where they're shot.'

Sandman says to Goin'fission, 'ever see someone on fire? =p'

Goin'fission says, 'not with a .45 =]'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Sandman's head.

Dude snickers softly.

Goin'fission says, 'i dont mean to sound argumentative or anything, but sometimes fleeing isnt an option'

Ea! says, 'Well, then you're out of luck.'

Dude says, 'i've seen deer get hit with 30-06 rounds before... if ppl are in anyway similar i can imagine'

Goin'fission says, 'DT's, Bind, No flee rooms etc'

Kaige repeates, take a bard along and calm.

Sandman says, 'speaking of fleeing... prio i still dont understand how that works.. as in who gets it and why'

Goin'fission says to Kaige, 'that's interference'

Goin'fission says to Kaige, 'someone will bitch about it'

Kae says, 'that depends a fair deal on the bard, I believe'

Kaige says, 'not if they're accepting'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Muad'Dib says to Goin'fission, 'every chartype has a bane, why shouldn't yours?'

Goin'fission says to Muad'Dib, 'because, there is only 1 offensive skill for the sniper'

Muad'Dib chuckles politely.

Kae says, 'there is?'

Goin'fission says to Muad'Dib, 'mages have a buttload'

Spike says, 'they do?'

Muad'Dib says to Goin'fission, 'then you'd need to explore it a bit more'

Kae says, 'I would have sworn my dex perc sniper used more than 1 skill'

Muad'Dib giggles at Kae.

Spike nods his agreement with Kae.

Goin'fission says, 'you start combat with kick?'

Kae says, 'backstab'

Ea! says, 'That's sort of like saying there are no offensive skills for druids... while it's true, they can also learn other skills.'

Goin'fission says, 'point proven, by the dark lady'

Kae <-- dark lady.

Sandman says, 'shoot backstab kick'

Goin'fission says, 'dope'

Kaige says, 'shoot + backstab = 2'

Kae says, 'choke'

Kaige says, '3'

Kaige says, '4'

Goin'fission says, 'choke sucks on a sniper'

Kae says, 'and then if you have the stats for it, all the other combat skills'

Spike says, 'it does?'

Sandman says, 'hey i have choked ppl out'

Muad'Dib says, 'warcry, headbutt'

Muad'Dib shrugs helplessly.

Kaige thinks it would depend on the sniper.

Kae says to Goin'fission, 'depends on who and what you're fighting, I'll give that it can be tacky in pkill'

Kaige says, '6'

Sandman says, 'warcry headbutt for those con freaks'

Kae says to Muad'Dib, 'headbutt and warcry for con, yeah'

Sandman says, 'bash elbow for the str freaks'

Goin'fission says to Kae, 'thx =]'

Muad'Dib nods his agreement with Kae.

Goin'fission says, 'but yall see what i mean, or am i just wasting my fingertips'

Kae personally prefers backstab, shoot them so full of lead they sink.

Sandman says, 'mages have um.. spells and usually one fight type set of skills'

Sandman says, 'aka con or dex or str.. not usually a combo'

Goin'fission giggles at Kae.

Sandman says, 'you dont see many str mages going around able to warcry or headbutt =p'

Sandman says, 'mostly a spell or bash =p'

Muad'Dib says, 'I can't personally see being able to backstab while fighting wouldn't extremely overpower snipers'

Ea! says to Goin'fission, 'Well, it all amounts to the fact that "sniper" is not really considered a class of fighter -- we don't even pretend that "perc fighters" exist.'

Kae says, 'well, if you want 100 mind and 100 in a fight stat and the reqs for meditate and all words, you'dbe hard pressed to get two high fight stats'

Goin'fission nods her agreement with Muad'Dib.

Sandman nods his agreement with Kae.

Goin'fission says, 'mind is a fight stat'

Kae says, 'exactly'

Goin'fission says, 'that's why they have so many offensive skills'

Kae says, 'which is why 3 100s and all words and meditate is darn near impossible'

Goin'fission says, 'but you make up for it with the hundredy=million spells that they can cast'

Kae says, 'yep'

Muad'Dib says to Goin'fission, 'on the other hand, your backstab don't eat mana'

Sandman says, 'ok im gunna jet woman needs attention'

Kaige says, 'or move or anything else.'

Goin'fission says, 'but it does eat up a tick'

Goin'fission says, 'whenever i use it'

Kaige says, 'true.'

Goin'fission says, 'as does sniper'

Kae says, 'but wimp max and shootshootshoot is all free'

Goin'fission says, 'with a sniper it's all about hit and run'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kae's head.

Kaige says, 'but most spells can't be regenned in a tick'

Muad'Dib nods his agreement with Kae.

Dashiva says to Muad'Dib, 'heh hey'

Kaige says, 'the mana spent on them at least not the truly powerful ones'

Muad'Dib nods his agreement with Dashiva.

Dashiva nods his agreement with Muad'Dib.

Muad'Dib joins Dashiva's group.

Goin'fission says, 'but you can still cast em every 2 rounds'

Muad'Dib says, 'untill you are out of mana, you can go on forever'

Kaige says, 'as long as you have mana'

Goin'fission says, 'most mages who PK have at least 600'

Goin'fission says, 'that's a buttload of stuns'

Muad'Dib says, 'you'd be surprised how fast that wear out'

Kae mutters something about guns at least not needing to be preserved.

Dashiva says, 'mana goes reaaall quick'

Goin'fission says to Kae, 'ever had one poof?'

Muad'Dib nods his agreement with Dashiva.

Kae says, 'yep'

Goin'fission says to Kae, 'i hate that =P{'

Kae says, 'and in the deep end of SL as the only shooter too :)'

Kae whines.

Goin'fission giggles.

Muad'Dib points at Kae.

Muad'Dib laughs at Kae.

Dashiva throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Kae giggles.

Dashiva junks a cloth bandage.

Goin'fission says, 'i dunno'

Goin'fission says, 'just somethin i wanted to ask and stuffs'

Kae says, 'every 'class' has its sucky points'

Spike says, 'not mine'

Spike ducks to the ground.

Kae says, 'cause is screwed for timed items, create is screwed for damage spells -- haveta cope no matter what you play'

Spike nods his agreement with Kae.

Goin'fission says, 'true that'

Dashiva says, 'coughgomaraudercough'

Goin'fission says, 'all i want to do is shank people more frequently =P'

Spike laughs with amusement.

Marauder does not exist in Kae's world.

Dashiva snickers softly.

Dashiva says, '*WHINE* why is marauder broken! fix your stupid mobs!'

Kae says, 'which is only half a joke, we can't balance the game from the assumption that Marauder or another bot is around'

Muad'Dib says to Goin'fission, 'so, try harder or try another class if you think they are so overpowered'

Muad'Dib shrugs helplessly.

Spike snickers at Dashiva nastily.

Dashiva snickers quietly to himself.

Muad'Dib sinks his teeth into Dashiva's flesh.

Goin'fission says to Muad'Dib, 'i have enough trouble keeping my ass out of the frying pan with this char =P'

Dashiva says, 'wonder why marauder wont make greater air sprites yet'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Dashiva's head.

[Pray] Someoneorother: Mara is broke

Goin'fission rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Kae holds her hands to her head in a silent scream!

Spike laughs with amusement.

Dashiva laughs with amusement.

Muad'Dib says to Kae, 'fix him!'

Muad'Dib attempts to prod Kae but Kae isn't about to go anywhere.

Kaige purges Marauder. Fixed!

Muad'Dib cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Kae says, 'I'll fix him allright, just gimme siteban for 20 seconds :p'

Goin'fission chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

Spike cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Kae says, 'I like Marauder's player, but I hate the idea of bots'

Spike snickers at Kae nastily.

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Dashiva says, 'the great part is he isn't breaking any rules'

Goin'fission chuckles politely.

Goin'fission says, 'he needs to sell hits of the balm =P'

Dashiva says, 'he even gives out game info! you just haffa ask!'

Kaige says, 'no, just wasting the mud's resources (telnet/socket/etc) for the people who are actively playing'

Kae says, 'he's not doing anything illegal'

Kae says, 'I can still disapprove of his generally screwing his own class :p'

Dashiva says to Kaige, 'awww'

Goin'fission says, 'speaking of which'

Goin'fission says, 'are we moving to the less laggy network anytime soon?'

Kaige says, 'every time we lag on this connection, thank him.'

Dashiva laughs with amusement.

Goin'fission chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

Ea! says to Goin'fission, 'No time frame for that.'

Kaige says, 'well, he's contributing to it'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Spike says, 'thank him by giving him 500 coins'

Goin'fission says, 'i got a 900ms ping off of yall the other day'

Kae says to Goin'fission, 'I think it's safe to say the Chicago imms are doing everything they can to move us to a better host'

Goin'fission says, 'that's ridiculous'

Goin'fission says to Kaige, 'dope'

Dashiva ping floods legend from school!

Dashiva cackles gleefully to himself for no apparent reason.

Goin'fission chuckles politely at Dashiva's feeble witticism.

Muad'Dib says to Kae, 'get to work!'

Goin'fission says, 'ooh, one more thing'

Dashiva says, 'take that! and that!'

Muad'Dib attempts to prod Kae but Kae isn't about to go anywhere.

Kae says, 'we all hate the lag, those of us who are on other continents even more so'

Muad'Dib says to Dashiva, 'and this?'

Goin'fission says to Kaige, 'hehehehe'

Kae says to Muad'Dib, 'shaddup and go back to bed'

Dashiva says, 'and some of those!'

Goin'fission waves happily.

Muad'Dib thumps Dashiva on the back.

Dashiva says to Kae, 'dont send him away!'

Goin'fission says, 'thanks for helping answer a few of my q's'

Kaige smiles at Goin'fission.

Goin'fission says, 'thanks guys =]'

ETA on New Areas?

Dude says, 'any ideas on how long before the next area goes in?'

Kaige says, 'we're still a ways out I think. don't have any dates set yet'

LadyAce says, 'none are in beta test right now.'

LadyAce says, 'maybe Hades'

Dude says, 'is this like an all time slump for new areas going in?'

Sandman says, 'croaker still hasnt gotten back to me about wanting to talk to him about hades'

Sandman snorts derisively.

LadyAce says, 'we kinda seem to go in spurts'

LadyAce says, 'we'll put in 5 or 6 over the course of 6 months, and then none for a while'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Can you Explain Priority?

Sandman says, 'can someone explain prio to me? scuffle'

Ea! says, 'Well, aside from the fact that it'd be giving out details that we're not allowed to give out, no, I can't. It's very complicated.'

Sandman says, 'bah!'

Ea! says, 'And, if I remember right, somewhat luck of the draw.'

Sandman says, 'bah luck.. always luck =p'

Seeing Who Accepts You?

Goin'fission says, 'i want to see who the hell accepts me on the who's list'

Goin'fission says, 'that's straight annoying =P'

Goin'fission waves happily.

Kae says, 'I think the idea is that whoshort is not supposed to be a shopping list'

Kae ignores everything, lost in her own little world.

Kaige says, 'but at least now it would be a self selected menu'

Kaige says, 'unlike before'

Kaige says, 'we done?'

Ea! says, 'think so...'

Kaige sticks a fork in us.

Dashiva winces.

Kae says, 'ow!'

Kaige says, 'done!'

Kaige says, 'Thanks for coming guys!'

Kaige gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

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