July 26th, 2001

Descs all in Welsh?

Clwyd says, 'Can long descriptions be in welsh?'

Sandra says, 'is this a welsh-speaking mud? ;)'

Clwyd says, 'Yes.'

Herbert says, 'aye'

Sandman laughs with amusement.

Herbert snickers softly.

Clwyd says, 'I speak welsh all the time'

Sandra says, 'that's not what I asked'

Clwyd says, 'Aye, but I refuse to let you make your point'

Peer says, 'oh no! we'll be washing flem out of our hair for weeks!'

Kaige says, 'I'd say it'd have to be understandable, similar to the areas that use the "native" language, so it couldn't be entirely in Welsh.'

Peer cowers in fear!

Sandra giggles.

Clwyd says to Peer, 'phlegm?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says, 'it's one thing to have people walk into a room and see line noise there for APril Fool's but not all the time.'

Peer cowers in fear of Clwyd's wrath!

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Sandra giggles.

Kaige says, 'not that welsh is line noise, but it's like saying, "it's all greek to me"'

Clwyd says, 'so.. Mae gwwerinwr Cymraeg yn crwydro'n haps fan hyn tra mae e osgoi fe'r Saesnon is bad?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Clwyd.

Stage Magic?

Peer says, 'I seem to recall you talking about ..stage? magician'

Peer says, 'new magetype or so?'

Kaige says, 'industrial type magic.'

Peer says, 'aha'

Sandra says, 'stage magic is a tree'

Sandman goes EEK! in distress.

Peer says, 'any umm, staus on that?'

Sandra says, 'skill trees =P'

Kaige says to Peer, 'it's there with the rest of the seedlings'

You do a slow fade as Peer whines at Sandra, hoping he won't get to you too.

Sandra giggles.

Peer says to Sandra, 'I want that mob, -now-!'

Reynard checks the 'skilltrees' box on his q&a program book.

Peer ducks under Sandra.

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Kaige giggles at Reynard.

Kaige says, 'who else has a question?'

Any Info on TinyPlot?

Sandman says, 'tiny plot coming up on events.. i havent heard any info on who to contact etc or details on it'

Kaige says, 'Ladyace said last week that she'd post details closer to the event.'

Sandman says, 'oh yeah'

Clwyd says, 'luckily, I'm waiting to see Ladyace about it'

Sandman bonks himself on the head and looks sheepish.

Clwyd says, 'basically, be here tomorrow'

Kaige says, 'other than that, I don't know anything about it.'

Clwyd says, 'and saturday'

Clwyd smiles happily.

Clwyd says, 'I mailed her the post'

Improvements to Regen Rates?

Peer says, 'seeing as you are in testing with the new create type healing, to move away from eating things'

Peer says, 'have you considered changing suger's chalice to a meditate improver?'

Peer says, 'so you won't have drink benefits too'

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'that's be something to suggest to Charity.'

Peer says, 'oh, I was just seeing it in perspective of create healing change..'

Kaige nods her agreement with Peer.

Kaige says, 'I understand that, but changing something from a refillable potion to a tool is a BIG shift, compared to something you can create repeatedly and eat, to something you can create repeatedly and use repeatedly.'

Peer says, 'if so, an umm regenerate-hp-tool? could also be an idea *shrug*'

Peer says, 'for the "clean" fighters'

Craven says, 'water does fill you up pretty fast'

Craven says, 'its basicly choose mana or hp as a create, good thinking peer'

Peer blinks.

Kaige says, 'anyway, it's still being tested, and we need to see if we can get that moving a bit faster so you can judge it.'

Peer says to Kaige, 'I didn't quite understand that...'

Kaige says, 'well a tool pretty much hangs around. it's not something you have to recreate'

Craven says, 'btw, this might have already been answered, but where is everyone? :)'

Sandra says, 'LA and Ea are running a little late'

Peer says to Kaige, 'I think you misunderstood'

Kaige says, 'where as the roots have to be recreated as they're eaten, and the replacement will also have to be recreated as it's used.'

Kaige says to Peer, 'likely...=)'

Reynard says, 'if you change it to a meditate tool, you'll annoy people who use it to augment meditate, rather than replace it.'

Peer says to Kaige, 'for the clean fighters I was suggesting a chalice for the fighter-types'

Peer says to Kaige, 'but perhaps as a rest/sleep regen improver'

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Patrick says, 'If it's a permanent tool that fighters could use, fighters would be overpowered solo powerhouses and surgeons would be out of work'

Peer says, 'a passive, that works when you rest/meditate'

Kaige nods her agreement with Patrick.

Craven snickers softly.

Craven says, 'thats not necessarily true'

Peer says, 'I never said tool, that you used'

Craven says, 'no fighter can solo pd for example, regardless of any tool'

Peer says, 'I ment a passive'

Kaige says, 'and we're always hearing how there's too many in game ways to heal that people run to to ruin pkill now.'

Sandra says, 'that's a difficult thing to consider. It may be 'just for fighters'. But it would make it a problem if a mage used it'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Peer says, 'something renty, that does nothing but improve your regen rate when you rest/sleep whatever'

Kaige says to Peer, 'andsince we don't have classes here, you couldn't regulate it to just "pure fighters"'

Peer says, 'seeing as magetypes/druids have the possibility of a chalice to regen fast...'

Craven says, 'you kinda could'

Kaige says, 'they'd be able to regen both mana and hp then'

Reynard says, 'If you went that route, I'd suggest that you have a place -- like a more comfortable inn -- that increased hp regen when you sleep.'

Craven says, 'make it so the hp one can't be used WITH a mana one'

Peer says to Kaige, 'if this regentool is 4.4K rent.. '

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Craven says, 'it just uses the last one picked up, overriding the old one'

Craven says, 'thus it would be worthless to have two'

Sandra says, 'if I'm going to put in something like that, I'd rather it be useable ONLY by nonmagic/druid types. Right now we can't really do that'

Kaige says, 'well, but that's special casing and we try to avoid that if possible.'

Peer says, 'anyway, just a suggestion/idea'

Kaige says, 'who else has questions?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Peer.

Craven shrugs helplessly.

Craven says, 'I think it would be nice if fighters could solo even a little bit, and I don't think what he's suggesting would necessarily overpower them, but maybe'

Kaige says, 'I've had a fairly easy time soloing with my fighter so far.'

Patrick says, 'Fighters can solo a lot, my alt does it all the time'

Craven says, 'oh you can solo'

Kaige says, 'even mobs twice his level in some cases.'

Craven says, 'VERY slow'

Craven says, 'sleeping to regen takes 15-30 minutes'

Craven says, 'not to mention you lose use of channels'

Kaige says, 'I've averaged about a level every 2-3 hours.'

Craven says, 'fighters, just like snipers, are excellent at low levels soloing'

Craven says, 'but any class who relys on sleeping or resting to heal will suck at soloing anything at 35 or 40 on'

Peer says, 'backstab '

Craven says, 'which is why mages and battle druids are the best "solo" classes later'

Craven snickers softly.

Reynard says, 'How about changing'

Patrick says, 'my lvl 50 fighter solos all the time'

Reynard blushes bright red.

Craven says, 'backstab, contrary to popular belief, is not the be all end all skill :)'

Kaige says, 'True I'm not that far above the halfway point, but I think generalizations like "fighters can't solo anything" is a bad way to phrase it.'

Craven says, 'your right kaige, and I appologize'

Craven says, 'I haven't been to one of these in awhile :)'

Peer says to Craven, 'for lowbies it's unmatched'

Kaige smiles at Craven.

Craven says, 'I'm rusty'

Kaige giggles.

Craven says, 'true peer'

Craven says, 'but what are you more, a lowbie or a level 50?'

Peer chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'depends, I think.'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Craven says, 'thus I'd rather be more productive at high levels then low'

Craven says, 'if your striving to become less good...whats the point?'

Peer thought we were talking lowbies right now.

Sandra says, 'I dunno, I'm never a lowbie for long'

Craven says, 'kinda defeats the purpose of the whole idea :)'

Craven says, 'You leveled, you lose a skill!'

Craven says, 'sounds like crap eh :P'

Peer nods solemnly.

Peer says, 'did we beat this issue to death already?'

Craven says, 'I would consider my fighter pretty damn formidaable'

Kaige nods her agreement with Peer.

Kaige points at Reynard.

Craven says, 'but I never ever play him unless theres a healer nearby'

Reynard says, 'How about changing'

Craven throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Craven says, 'woo hoo, bonus car@'

Sandra giggles at Craven.

Can Some Skills Not Break Hide?

Reynard says, 'how about changing skills like sneak and steal so that they don't break hide?'

Sandra thinks that steal should break hide.

Craven nods solemnly.

Patrick nods solemnly.

Peer says, 'iffy, steal would be mean in pk'

Reynard says, 'But sneak shouldn't. Definitely.'

Kaige says, 'yeah, cause it's unlikely the person is standing hidden in the shadows with you.'

Craven says, 'would be nifty if some gear gave bonus's or penalties to chances of success'

Craven says, 'but that sounds like a bunch of work for little gain'

Kaige says, 'you're moving.. you're then sneaking, not hiding'

Reynard shakes his head in disagreement with Kaige.

Peer says, 'hide, steal chalice, steal herb-bag, steal canoe, steal everything, jump'

Reynard says, 'Moving, yes. Turning on sneak, no.'

Reynard says, 'Turning on the sneak skill doesn't move you and hsouldn't break hide.'

Sandra says, 'I don't have a problem with that, personally.'

Reynard says, 'And passive skills, like case or consider, shouldn't break hide also.'

Sandra says, 'tho I wouldn't want steal to work that way'

Reynard says, 'Okay, scratch steal. I agree with you.'

Kaige says, 'yeah, put in on the idea channel and the coders can hash it out.'

Peer says, 'perhaps scan?'

Clwyd says, 'steal involves moving your hands. It makes you visible to those watching, although presumably, you stay out of sight of the victim, still, if he turned around to look aroundm, he'd see you'

Sandra says, 'I think scan should break it. Coz you're sorta up and peering around'

Peer says, 'seeing as you can aim...'

Clwyd says, 'hide presumes you hide somewhere in the room. very unlikely to be two inces from the person'

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Wes licks Craven.

Clwyd says, 'aim makes sense... it allows cloak and dagger assassination things'

Clwyd says, 'and you need not be CLOSe for aim.'

Prestige Plans?

Peer says, 'do you have any plans on making prestige do.. something.. atleast more?'

Sandra says, 'we want to make it do more as far as areas are concerned. But that's not really been fleshed out so much yet.I'm not sure what else there are plans for'

Kaige says to Peer, 'Yes, but we've been trying to fix a bunch of crashing problems here lately.'

Peer nods solemnly.

Reynard waves happily.

Kaige says, 'the coders that is... but the builders have been adding in things as well.'

Patrick says, 'I am very happy with prestige now *hug rent limit*'

Peer says, 'goodie goodie'

Peer says, 'on a side-note, why did you change rent things with prestige again?'

Peer can't remember.

Clwyd says, 'how about skills with a prestige requirement'

Sandra says, 'there are some'

Wes says, 'tthere are?'

Kaige says, 'because everyone had the 100 prestige for it anyway.'

Peer nods his agreement with Wes.

Clwyd says, 'I can think of praise'

Kaige says to Clwyd, 'there are some.'

Sandra says, 'I can think of 4 right off the bat'

Peer says, 'perhaps if prestige was a bit harder to get'

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Clwyd says to Kaige, 'Why not just make it easier to lose prestige?'

Peer says, 'easier to lose'

Kaige says, 'yeah, I think something got messed up in one of the attempts to change how it worked last spring, cause my morts can't seem to lose it for anything.'

Peer giggles at Kaige.

Kaige says, 'but it's on the giant to do list.'

Peer says to Kaige, 'die like 10 times in a row and you'll be down to 60'ish or something'

Kaige says to Peer, 'that's all?'

Kaige giggles.

Patrick says, 'prestige is so easy to get now, though'

Sandra giggles.

Peer nods his agreement with Patrick.

Clwyd says, 'what would help a lot is only give prestige for killing blow'

Clwyd says, 'grouping raises prestige a lot'

Wes says, 'sure take away an easy feature'

Wes gives a firm poke in the ribs to everyone in the room.

Sandra says to Clwyd, 'idea that'

Peer says, 'yep!'

Kaige says to Peer, 'that answer your basic question of, what happened to it?'

Peer says to Kaige, 'you answered that?'

Peer didn't see it then.

Kaige says, 'that it got pushed to a back burner for a bit while we had more urgent problems to look at and that builders are working to incorporate it more.'

Peer says to Kaige, 'oh yes, I thought you meant the "why did you remove rent from prestige" question'

Kaige says to Peer, 'that was "everyone was operating at that level any way, and that way we could remove the 1000 rent buffer without making people angry and nerfing them by 100 rent.'

Charms and Solitary Rooms?

Wes says, 'well, earlier today, I was faced with the morgawr issue. When you make a charm and it gets stuck in the room. well thats happened plenty of times and immortals have removed the charm for me. I was just wondering if it could be changed?'

Wes says, 'it only seems to me that it is a mistake if immortals are helping.'

Kaige says to Wes, 'you bugged it right? '

Sandra says, 'sure, can make the room no magic pretty easily ;)'

Craven says, 'that is an annoying bug'

Peer nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige giggles at Sandra.

Craven says, 'if we had a slay charmy spell....oh well :P'

Sandra giggles.

Craven says, 'would be nifty if we could make a homo with a name attached at the end to distiguish it'

Sandra says, 'that's the solitairy room right?'

Craven nods solemnly.

Craven says, 'you can exit after making a charmy, but then you can't move back in'

Sandra says, 'yea, you shouldn't be able to create charmies in there at all with that flag'

Wes chuckles politely at Sandra's feeble witticism.

Wes whaps Sandman across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Sandra says, 'I think it's more a bug with solitairy rooms'

Wes says, 'well what happened actually'

Wes says, 'I forgot I had a wimpy'

Sandra says, 'but we can fix the room specifically'

Wes says, 'so I wimpied out'

Wes says, 'and I couldnt go BACK into the room'

Wes says, 'so I went up and my doppel wimpied out'

Clwyd says, 'ic'

Wes says, 'my own fault but still. its a little harsh :P'

Kaige nods her agreement with Wes.

Wes says, 'so its going to be changed to non-magic ??'

Wes chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'Nah, most likely not. I'll figure out something for it'

Kaige says, 'or on the code side so you can't summon/create charmies in solitary rooms'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Charms Stats?

Peer says, 'considered making charmie hp depend on mind/spirit instead of mind cons?'

Wes says to Peer, 'eww!'

Peer says, 'seeing as umm, well, I don't consider it logical that your personal state of constitution has a lot to do with your magical abilities?'

Sandra says, 'Someone asked Ea that once before. But I don't recall what his answer was'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Craven says, 'I can see why a dopple has your hp'

Craven says, 'makes sense'

Peer says, 'very'

Craven says, 'I don't understand why an elementals hp are based on your con though'

Kaige says, 'It also has other considerations besides just your mind/con as well.'

Peer says, 'but why elementals inherit your hp?'

Craven says, 'homo's are based on level'

Craven says, 'and random'

Wes says, 'and mind'

Craven says, 'but elementals are based on con'

Wes says, 'greaters are mind'

Wes says, 'and level'

Craven says, 'greaters are REALLY random'

Wes says, 'angel demon titan I mean'

Kaige says, 'one sec looking up something in the code.'

Peer says, 'imho, mind/spirit would be logical on how good your bond to the spiritual world, and how good you are at castign it..?'

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Craven says, 'probably one of the biggest random #'s in the game'

Sandra says, 'I can't recall which are con without going to look, and I'm too lazy ;)'

Wes chuckles politely at Sandman's feeble witticism.

Craven says, 'its elementals I tell you!'

Wes scowls darkly in Sandman's direction.

Peer says to Sandra, 'elementals'

Craven says, 'maybe etherics'

Craven says, 'I don't use those though, so I don't know'

Kaige says, 'yeah the elementals prolly need looked at.... idea it.'

Wes says, 'hehe'

Wes says, 'it better not be spirit dude :P That wouldn't be so hot'

Wes chuckles politely.

Wes says, 'actually'

Wes says, 'I do have more spirit then con'

Wes ducks to the ground.

Peer says to Wes, 'it might not be so hot, but still, is it logical/good as it is now?'

Peer says to Wes, 'I'm not talking "I'm better as it is now"'

Wes says, 'I've actually learned to live with it, not saying its right or wrong..just adapted I guess?'

Wes says, 'I figure want to solo huge mobs easy go con mind?'

Kaige says, 'making spirit more important overall is another thing we want to do.'

Peer cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Peer beams at Kaige delightedly.

Kaige says, 'there shouldn't be a stat you can just see how low you can drop it.'

Wes says, 'well'

Wes says, 'it is only that way with snipers and fighters kaige'

Peer says to Kaige, 'didn't ea talk about wanting spirit req's on fighters too?'

Wes says, 'it definitely isnt that way with mages'

Wes says, 'my con is lower than my spirit'

Craven says, 'I hope you give s BONUS to having spir, not a negative to not having it'

Patrick says, 'I hope you balance fighter skills with that, though, Kaige'

Kaige nods her agreement with Wes.

Wes says, 'and perc'

Kaige says to Patrick, 'it'll be tricky which is why we haven't just slapped a 20 or 30 min spirit req all over the place'

Wes winces.

Wes says, 'that would be rough'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Peer says, 'true, those who exploit spirit are fighters to make up for lacking a way to use your mana..'

Kaige says, 'but easy and quick to code.'

Wes says, 'would have to introduce it slowly imo'

Craven says, 'it would kill any semblance of balance, again :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with Craven.

Patrick says, 'If fighters need spirit then they should get some more useful noncombat skills to go with it'

Craven says, 'might as well wait till trees when balance is broke anyway'

Sandra says, 'yea, that's why we're having a hard time with it ;)'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Peer nods his agreement with Sandra.

Wes snaps his fingers. ATTITUDE!

Craven says, 'kill 2 birds with one stone if you waited'

Craven says, 'of course, thats assuming trees exist'

Craven throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Peer says, 'but it's on the long-term todo or such?'

Wes chuckles politely.

Wes nods his agreement with Craven.

Kaige nods her agreement with Peer.

Sandra nods her agreement with Peer.

Peer beams at Sandra delightedly.

Kaige says, 'it's on the "goals we're striving for list"'

Why do Some Vials Poof?

Clwyd says, 'why do vials sometimes disappear when you quaff them? if the potions are that corrosive, then why am I quaffing them?'

Sandra says, 'it depends on which vials they are'

Craven says, 'potions from the archdruid area poof'

Peer nods his agreement with Kaige.

Patrick says, 'I don't think I'll live long enough to see trees...'

Peer giggles at Patrick.

Sandra says, 'if they're brewed vials, they stay. If they're builder-made vials, they'll poof'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Clwyd says, 'but WHY do they poof?'

Craven says, 'so you don't get free vials :P'

Sandra says, 'spiffiness?'

Kaige says, 'don't know why it's different... but if you idea it we can revisit why it's like that.'

Aidan says, 'spiffiness?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Aidan.

Clwyd says, 'do builder potions have glass disssolve? Are they made of sugar, and fully edible?'

Aidan says, 'what is?'

Sandra says to Clwyd, 'yea, that's it.'

Clwyd says, 'builder potion-vials'

Peer giggles at Sandra.

Craven says, 'don't go with the reality angle clwyd'

Sandra giggles.

Craven says, 'it doesn't work in a fantasy game'

Clwyd says, 'mmm! sugar vials'

Kaige says, 'they're likely more magical in nature since they were more directly descended from stock merc than the herbalism skills.'

Peer says to Sandra, 'this vial will self-destruct in 3 seconds!'

Clwyd says, 'yum!'

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Sandra says, 'poof'

Clwyd chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

Peer says, 'booom'

Sandra says, 'lets make them explode'

Sandra bounces around.

Aidan says to Peer, 'thanks now i have the M.I. theme song in my head'

Peer cheers for Sandra - huzzah!

Wes cowers in fear of Sandra's wrath!

Peer grins evilly at Aidan.. wonder what he's thinking...

Kaige says to Sandra, 'and add in spontaneous human combustion and lightning strikes?'

Peer says to Sandra, 'make them explode in your mouth, small pop, 1hp damage'

Clwyd says, 'so... why do the vials the lotus eater has not poof?'

Wes says to Sandra, 'you've infected the imp!'

Wes scowls.

Sandra says, 'hey, lightning hit my tree out front earlier. Made me jump like 3 feet'

Sandra says, 'he brews them'

Craven says, 'if we could heal more then 10 hp a minute, I wouldn't mind lightning strikes'

Kaige says, 'actually those are both player submitted ideas... both repeatedly over the years.'

Peer says, 'and meteorite should slay if it hits you!'

Sandra says, 'lightning strikes would be a neat builder act. I may ponder that ;)'

Clwyd says to Kaige, 'I can see the lightning....'

Peer nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Kaige giggles at Sandra.

Sandra says, 'that'd be cool!'

Wes screams loudly!

Wes says to Sandra, 'no!!!!!'

Sandman says, 'hey that would be cool'

Clwyd says, 'would be good in, say, Tam o' shanter, or King Lear'

Peer says, 'rand 100 if your in the room, if it hits, you die!'

Sandman says, 'storm hitting a house hahah'

Sandra says, 'well, it'd have to take into consideration the weather'

Craven says, 'I have a question'

Craven says, 'I raised earlier, must have missed it'

Kaige points at Craven.

Patrick says, 'Oh joy, instant smoldering death from the heavens, thank you Sandra :P'

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Peer says to Sandra, 'no, a random lightning every tick *peer info channel*'

Wes chuckles politely at Patrick's feeble witticism.

Sandra says, 'just think it's me shooting you'

Oddness with Immolate?

Craven says, 'the other day I was pkilling for the first time in like a month and had an odd thing happen, didn't know if its a new feature or a bug or what it was'

Craven says, 'I immolated someone for 12 damage with 90 mind'

Wes snickers softly.

Sandman laughs with amusement.

Sandman nods his agreement with Craven.

Sandra says, 'they have any protect from fire stuff?'

Craven says, 'no'

Wes says, 'that would be insane prot fire :P'

Craven says, 'the immolates before that one did like 60 or more'

Craven says, 'now'

Sandra says, 'weird'

Peer says, 'the invisible hedgehog was in the way!'

Craven says, 'I did look back up to see if my mana was low'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Craven says, 'and it was only 28....the spell normally costs what, 50?'

Craven says, 'why would 28 mana do 12 damage?'

Craven says, 'if I had known it would do 12, I'd have gusted or something'

Craven says, 'WITHER would have done more'

Craven says, 'which is sad :P'

Peer giggles.

Sandra says, 'hm. help file says 46+. I'd guess that 12 is the base damage without the mind addition, since your mana was lower than what was necessary'

Peer says to Craven, 'ph33r me, or I'll wither you!'

Kaige says, 'possible.'

Aidan laughs with amusement.

Craven says, 'I guess some spells are dumb then'

Craven says, 'because MOST spells do a damage based on your mana if lower then max'

Craven says, 'obviously not the max'

Craven says, 'but not the min either'

Craven says, 'I hate immolate anyway, but I just thought I'd ask'

Craven says, 'firestorm is the way to go :)'

Sandra giggles.

Craven says, 'but last time I firestormed some god damn hol mob decided to show up'

Craven says, 'god thats REALLY annoying...'

Sandra says, 'ow'

Craven says, 'and instantly para warcried me'

Craven says, 'so I'm a bit paranoid to use area spells now'

Peer cheers for Craven - huzzah!

Sandra giggles.

Peer says to Craven, 'did the LoP hug you afterwards?'

Peer ducks to the ground.

Kaige says to Craven, 'I put a note to look at seeing why that happened, but without looking close at the code for it for a bit, I can't say.'

Aidan snickers at Peer nastily.

Craven nods solemnly.

Craven says, 'I figured'

Kaige says, 'any other questions?'

Craven says, 'just thought I'd ask'

Kaige nods her agreement with Craven.

Craven says, 'I haven't been here, didn't know if it was some change or something'

Kaige says, 'not that I know of.'

Kaige says, 'Thanks for coming all! See ya later'

Kaige waves happily.

Sandra waves happily.

Haley giggles.

Haley waves happily.

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