July 19th, 2001

Bug with Getting to the OOC?

LadyAce says, 'so, who has a question?'

Carter says, 'I have a quick one'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Carter.

Carter says, 'Why is it that whenever I try to go ooc, half the time I have to rent before I can?'

LadyAce says, 'what does the game say when you try?'

Carter says, 'It says I can't break character from this point in the game. no spells'

BlackLace nods her agreement with Carter.

LadyAce says, 'I'd have to look at the problem while it was happening.'

Carter says, 'shall I tell yer if it repeats?'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

BlackLace says, 'the only places it has happened to me is the Beggar and San Fran'

J'Tomp nods his agreement with BlackLace.

LadyAce says, 'because I'll have to look at flags and such to determine it for sure'

J'Tomp says, 'me too, just did it'

LadyAce says, 'and if renting lets you in, the flags must be gone after that :)'

Carter says, 'it happened in ithaca once for me'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

J'Tomp says, 'I think it usually happens after the train and stage coach ride'

LadyAce says to J'Tomp, 'snag us when it happens and we'll prod and examine your char's guts til we figure it out :)'

Kaige says, 'before you rent'

J'Tomp goes EEK! at LadyAce in distress - isn't LadyAce an awful person for teasing?

BlackLace goes EEK! at LadyAce in distress - isn't LadyAce an awful person for teasing?

J'Tomp likes his guts where they are

LadyAce giggles.

Details on Wales Tinyplot?

Sandman says, 'my question is on the upcoming tinyplot.. was just wondering when info on it will be out since it says look for it on welcome or who i can talk to about it more'

LadyAce says, 'I'll post more details when they're ready'

Sandman nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'when that time comes, I'll coordinate it'

Sandman says, 'coolness'

[X] and Channel Use Discussion

Sandman says, 'ok this one is about Marcel's post and the significance it made to me'

Marcel raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Sandman says, 'is there a way we could somehow discourage a lot of the drug sex and other real real ooc stuff going on on channels?'

Marcel says, 'not within the rules insofar I know of, as long as the language rules are kept'

LadyAce says, 'OOC stuff, no'

LadyAce says, 'inappropriate stuff, the imms do what they can, and you have channelgag'

Sandman nods solemnly.

Carter says, 'could we have an ooc channel?'

Kaige says, 'speak up when you hear stuff you don't want to...or at least try to redirect conversation elsewhere'

Marcel says, 'I wrote the post fully knowing that people have the right to use chat as an IRC chat room if they like.'

Sandman nods his agreement with Marcel.

Marcel says, 'just as I have the right not to listen :)'

Sandman says, 'i was just wondering if maybe we can get more imms to be on late late night to help with the channels late night'

Kae says, 'can't really force people not to discuss ooc issues'

Sandman says, 'when i play late night there are imms around but sometimes not and it gets baaad late night'

Sandman nods his agreement with Kae.

Sandman says, 'hmm true again'

LadyAce says, 'Imms are around when they have time to be here, and that's pretty much where it stands.'

Sandman nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kae says, 'if they're not breaking the rules we can't tell them what they can talk about, regardless of how irrelevant to the game it may be'

LadyAce says, 'I think people are far too reticent to use gagchannel, personally.'

Kaige says, 'yeah, with my mort that uses gagchannel some of the conversations are broken, but then they're usually not that interesting to really have cared about missing half either.'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Marcel's changag list is soooo long. Wasn't enough :p

LadyAce says, 'I can't assign volunteers to the nightshift, so :)'

OOC/IC and Channels

Lachesis says, 'it's easy to confuse the channels from ooc to ic. like people swap from gossip to chat, and it's still hard to differentiate between ic and ooc'

LadyAce says, 'well, I think it's fun to treat it all like it's IC :P'

Lachesis says, 'i think another ooc channel would be convenient so that there is no confusion and other can turn it off they don't wanna hear it'

Kae says, 'that, and a lot of people actually come here to sit and talk on channels.'

Lachesis nods solemnly.

Lachesis says, 'i know i do alot of RP on all channels... so an ooc channel would be nice'

Marcel says, 'I used to RP on channels a lot, but lately I've found that the bad stuff by far outweighs the good stuff.'

Peer nods his agreement with Marcel.

Lachesis nods her agreement with Marcel.

J'Tomp nods his agreement with Lachesis.

Marcel says, 'Since I don't want to tell others what they can talk about though...'

Haley nods her agreement with Marcel.

Kaige says, 'could it be perhaps because the people who put better content are giving up on it?'

Kaige tickles Marcel.

Marcel says to Kaige, 'that is not at all unlikely'

Lachesis nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sandman says, 'i try to rp as much as i can on channels but half of it gets sorta ignored..'

Marcel says, 'I'm finding that my gaming experience is deteriorating fast, though, and we were some who felt a quick-fix for ourselves was in place, selfish as it is'

Kaige nods her agreement with Marcel.

LadyAce says, 'well, there is a level where they're your channels, and worth struggling to keep interesting'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Marcel also dares assume that those who chitchat ooc stuff on channels LIKE to do that, and thus should not be told that they can't.

Sandman says to Marcel, 'but i would like you to count our clan in on your ic rping X thing some of us dont have space in our titles'

Kaige says, 'cause as much as the immorts can and do do.. it's ultimately the players that make this place what it is... especially atmosphere-wise.. you have to foster what you want, chastize what you don't.'

Lachesis says, 'i've seen alot of arguments and disagreements on the channels just because someone was RPing and others weren't.'

Marcel says to Sandman, '[X] is ooc, really, it's just to let people know that this person may not hear you if you talk to them on channels'

Sandman says, 'ooh'

Sandman says, 'think i read it wrong'

Sandman bonks himself on the head and looks sheepish.

Marcel says, 'that's all it is'

Kaige says, 'all we can do is help guide it, not completely control it.'

Marcel says to Kaige, 'yeah, but I and others who share my views don't have the right to tell what seems to be the majority of players how they should play, either.'

LadyAce says, 'but if you guys decide you don't want rp on channels, by all means, don't use them for that...'

Marcel says, 'the problem is conflict of interests'

J'Tomp says, 'a channel specifacly for ooc chatter would be nice'

Sandman says, 'what i find is that when i rp on channels after a little while things get turned to ooc conversations and i end up either not talking or talking right along with them.. just because im social like that i guess'

Peer says, 'if/when you use channels for RP, you'll have to have a whole lot of people added to your gagchannel list not to end up in a war as to -why- you are rp'ing on channels, which is besides the point, you are somewhat trying to start something, not discuss why you are sayign something....'

Lachesis nods her agreement with J'Tomp.

Marcel says to Peer, 'that, and a group of people complaining that you interrupt their pot discussion :p'

LadyAce says to Sandman, 'well, you have to make the decision to go wholly IC :)'

Sandman nods his agreement with Marcel.

Peer says, 'as this list just keep growing till you lose patience'

Lachesis beeps Kritter on the nose.

LadyAce says, 'you might consider asking for an imm to make a conference for them'

Kritter sits in the cockpit of a TIE-fighter.

Marcel says, 'I also think that a few people here seriously couldn't handle socials on channels.'

Sandman says to LadyAce, 'yeah im getting there i never was much of an rper if ya remember ;)'

Kaige says, 'soo tell them to nicely IC go back to their haze and ignore you like the rest of life that they seem to be...'

Kaige says, 'or just ignore them.'

Sandman says to LadyAce, 'i have been hearing a lot though about my brother doing pretty well which is cool'

Marcel says to LadyAce, 'I might, but I don't think it's fair. They have the right to use chat just as I do. If I find that channels make me mad, it's me who should turn them off.'

LadyAce says to Marcel, 'well, no one has the right to so dominate chat that no one else who wants to use it, can'

Vinnie nods his agreement with Marcel.

Sandman says to LadyAce, 'i get tells from friends and even ppl i dont even know saying his rp is good and also rping and whatnot in which i was like.. i better step up now'

LadyAce says to Marcel, 'usually I gauge that by three complaints. If I get 3, I conference, if not, I let it go.'

Marcel says, 'no one is telling me not to use chat, this isn't a bully or harassment issue. It's an attempt to bring RP back into the game and out of the Stag and Tara / channels'

LadyAce says, 'there's certainly a level where chatted rp breaks the fiction'

Gondar says, 'I think we need to try to use the gossip channel more, it seems like the perfect RP forum'

LadyAce says, 'but it's also one of the few ways to reach brand brand new people, other than wandering past them :)'

Kaige says, 'then I think it was badly named'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Sandman says, 'with all due respect.. i feel the gossip is more ooc than it should be ic..'

Peer says, 'I personally think we should use on location more than channels'

Sandman nods his agreement with Peer.

Marcel says, 'using gossip for RP and chat for OOC makes perfect sense, but imagine the responses someone would get for asking people to switch channels.'

Marcel nods his agreement with Peer.

Sandman says, 'i feel tho with location contact rp some feel threatened and run away when i approach them to rp'

LadyAce says, 'well, since gossip shows descs, it is a more likely rp candidate'

Kritter nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Peer says, 'it's really wierd if you think about it, everything we plan in this word who exists from 1200 up to 1800'ish, we just yell to eachother across timezones?'

Gondar nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sandman nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'I think if the gossip channel is full, people will use chat.'

Gondar says, 'thats my thought'

Marcel says to Peer, 'mutual telepathy, part of the great conspiracy?'

Peer shrugs helplessly.

Sandman snickers softly.

Peer says, 'i dunno'

Gondar says, 'we have time travel so why not crosstime communication?'

LadyAce says, 'and since gossip is pretty quiet 90% of the time, I don't think you'd have much trouble taking it over and using it for rp'

Marcel says, 'I can live with that fiction glitch, it's what I essentially see as a quibble over which age group gets to dominate the net that bothers me'

Sandman says, 'gossip i do like with the descs it does feel more ic'

Kaige says to Peer, 'we were originally going to separate the three eras MUCH more completely... as in channels existed/heard only in that era, but we were way too small for that to work... and I think we still are in many way.s'

Peer says, 'the whole thing is that unless you go with this [x] thing along with others you'll just be someone out of touch since you have no idea of what is going on'

Sandman says, 'invasion rpers take control of the gossip channel!'

Peer says, 'if people -know- you are not listening to certain channels, they might actually use notes/boards/ic talk more?'

Marcel says, 'I can gossip, sure, but I think the arguments would move right along'

LadyAce says, 'well...I find that channels remind me that someone is on, inspire me to contact them'

Sandman looks up into the sky and ponders.

Marcel says, 'yes, that is the definite backdraw.'

LadyAce says, 'if there's no chat noise, I don't necessarily know you're there, or if you are, you seem a lot more 'busy''

Peer nods his agreement with Marcel.

Sandman nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Jouer nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Peer says, 'or you are not listening to chat because you don't think it's worth your time?'

Marcel says, 'I personally find it's worth having to check who a lot in order not to get annoyed to no end by people who (to me) seem to be wasting bandwidth, though'

J'Tomp says, 'I only use channels when I'm bored or need something'

Peer nods his agreement with J'Tomp.

Gondar nods his agreement with J'Tomp.

LadyAce says, 'well, retraining oneself is always possible :) I just find it's not my natural tendency'

Gondar gasps at LadyAce.

Marcel says to LadyAce, 'nor mine, took me quite a while to reach this decision...'

LadyAce says, 'I tend to interact with the people who stand out there as being there for me to interact with.'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Sandman nods solemnly.

Peer says, 'well, basically because we think we waste a lot of time doings things not worth on time on channels, and that we think it would be fun being contacted ic'

Marcel nods solemnly.

Marcel says, 'I'd be game for an RP only channel because then, like auction, there would be justification for people asking others to take ooc stuff elsewhere.'

Sandman nods his agreement with Marcel.

Gondar nods his agreement with Marcel.

Marcel says, 'I just seem to recall that it was ruled once that there will not be ic/ooc channels, however.'

Sandman says, 'that was what i was meaning by taking over the gossip channel'

Gondar says, 'thats what gossip is/should be for'

Peer says, 'in which case we would probably not have other channels open'

Marcel nods his agreement with Peer.

Peer says, 'chat/gossip is too much considered ooc world, rp is sometimes accepted, but ooc is very accepted'

Sandman says, 'i say we pass around to the rp clans about rping strictly on the gossip then see if others follow suit if not oh well?'

Marcel says to Sandman, 'I'll support it, sure, but I'm much too jaded to spearhead that whole argument once more...'

Peer says, 'it -would- be easier if one of them were labeled rp and another one not, but that is not the case so this is how we work around it..'

Gondar chuckles politely.

Sandman says, 'ill get my peeps startin on the gossip more often for rp i have a few contacts i can get ahold of and see how it flies with them.. given time it could work'

Marcel says, 'there is no harm in trying'

Peer nods solemnly.

Sandman says, 'besides.. i have too much time anyway so i have no problem meeting and trying'

Marcel says, 'I'd still prefer a help file-backed solution, though :p'

Sandman nods solemnly.

Jouer nods his agreement with Marcel.

Sandman says, 'always gotta try what we got to work with before totally going for what we want tho.. or thats how i always feel on things'

Marcel quotes HELP GOSSIP, 'Because Gossip uses players' short descriptions, its subject matter is more often IC (in character, roleplayed) than not. There are no firm rules about Gossip topics though, aside from the basic rules that apply to all channels.'

Sandman nods his agreement with Marcel.

Marcel says, 'let's remove that 'no' from the last sentence!' Sandman says, 'hopefully with showing more rp icness on the channel will set a tone for it and ppl will catch on and either not use it or use it for rp'

Kaige says, 'anything would be better than crappy song lyrics'

Kaige grimaces.

LadyAce says, 'I would rather see this solved with social norming. If you look at the kinds of rules we have, they steer pretty far clear of controlling the community itself'

Sandman nods his agreement with Kaige.

Jouer chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

Marcel says, 'auction has such a rule, though'

Straussy nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sandman says to Lorenzo, 'they arent to me but i accept the fact that they are to most =p'

LadyAce says, 'auction rules are pretty much spam/ingame info protection'

Marcel says to LadyAce, 'true, but the tone of help auction is a lot stricter.'

Sandman says, 'yeah.. if in time tho we cant make any progress i will back it for some rules on a channel for rp'

Straussy says, 'ah..'

Peer says, 'but we can't have spam protection on other channels?'

LadyAce says, 'we have three tests: profanity/nastiness, spam, and game info. I would rather not see us play cop any further than that.'

Straussy nods solemnly.

LadyAce says to Peer, 'you surely do have spam protection...that's what conferences are for'

Gondar says, 'and changag'

Straussy says, 'and chat toggles'

Gondar nods his agreement with J'Tomp.

Sandman says, 'i think we can regulate a channel though given time and repeativeness on stressing rp there'

Peer says, 'well, if ic, player would be quick to direct people at gossip, and vice versa if there was a somewhat bendable rule about where to use ic and where not to'

Sandman says, 'how much time.. tho may be annoying long'

LadyAce says, 'gossip is so incredibly unused, I'm not sure you'd need any imm help at all making it into whatever you wanted.'

Marcel says, 'I honestly don't see a problem with adding a 'This channel is primarily intended for RP purposes' to Gossip, but what the hey'

Kaige says, 'another thing that would help is instead of having all the RP'ers turn off chat, would be to have some to steer those they see using chat IC where you want them too.'

Marcel says to LadyAce, 'It is unused because the instant you use it, the things you're trying to avoid move right along.'

Sandman nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sandman says, 'that is what i was about to say.. kinda point em to the gossip channel for rp and ic related topics'

Sandman says, 'and only talk to them there.. if big players like some ppl are around here it can be done with time'

Tempus says, 'don't people sing on the gossip channel?'

Marcel says to Kaige, 'a request, then -- can we make Gossip not work with channel socials? I can see people doing socials a LOT, trying to figure out whose short desc that is'

Carter says, 'But ain't it very ooc ter make a difference?'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'I don't know how hard that would be to special case out a single conference'

Marcel says, 'The thought of someone going bounce (name) down the wholist scares me :p'

Kaige says, 'only reason clan channels didn't get it at the saem time was they go through their own function'

Gondar says, 'other than that certain socials are rather RPish'

Marcel says to Gondar, 'Yeah, it's sad, but the spam from guessing is even sadder -- and we can still do *social* '

Sandman says, 'i kinda enjoy some of the socials on channels it can let you do things without typing *i feel like this and that*'

Tempus says, 'talking about socials, why were some pulled?'

Marcel likes clan socials, but not with short descs and the resulting guesswork.

Straussy nonchalantly reaches and grabs some popcorn without Kaige knowing.

Sandman says, 'maybe make socials on the gossip not do the descs?'

LadyAce says, 'we removed several which were too explicit in nature, are those the ones to which you're referring?'

Tempus says to LadyAce, 'yes, i don't understand why pull them...'

Sandman says, 'is that what you talking about marcel or completely not useable?'

Gondar says to Marcel, 'true. . . but then, the sort of person who would spam the channel tryin to figger out someone's desc aint really workin on RP anyway'

Gondar says, 'they just bein spammy'

Marcel says to Sandman, 'sort of -- I'm worried that someone goes bounce (name) down the who list in order to find out who someone is on gossip'

Tempus says to LadyAce, 'i mean all unwanted social is bad why target those?'

Kaige says to Tempus, 'they weren't helping foster the atmosphere we wanted.'

Sandman says, 'hmm yeah i can see that'

Straussy nods solemnly.

Tempus says to Kaige, 'but taking them out does it solve anything?'

LadyAce says, 'socials automate certain actions, and that makes them easier.'

Marcel says to Sandman, 'you and I are safe, names in descs and all, but most people don't have that'

Sandman nods solemnly.

JamaciaMan says, 'I say yank it all together and make people put asterisks like they used to when they want to social on chat =P'

Tempus says to LadyAce, 'they can still emote it...i just don't understand why bother taking them out'

LadyAce says, 'and they tend to encourage their use by existing.'

Straussy grins evilly at JamaciaMan.. wonder what he's thinking...

LadyAce says, 'we removed them because they encouraged things we didn't want to encourage.'

Sandman says, 'wonder if there would be a way to specifically channel gag someone'

Sandman looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandman says, 'oops'

Gondar says, 'like chatgag, infogag?'

PKOK and Accept All

JamaciaMan says, 'I have a question, but its probably beating a dead horse' JamaciaMan says, 'I still like the idea of accept alls fighting other accept alls only, and you can't attack an accept all unless you're accept all yourself...maybe you could switch through an old pk and pkok when you're pk enabled'

JamaciaMan says, 'maybe if you go "old pk", you have to wait the full 50 tick timer to go pkok again'

LadyAce says, 'the pk thing is indeed a dead horse :P'

JamaciaMan says, 'bleh'

Lorenzo says, 'more than that, it's a decomposing horse'

Chat while Sleeping

Heineken says, 'OK, I know I've brought this up before, but would it be too much to ask if we could see chat while asleep?'

LadyAce says, 'putting chat into sleep was something we opposed for a long time because of the ooc nature of it'

Heineken says, 'but chat is ooc anyway, especially with socials now'

Straussy says, 'well that and I think we have to look at the sleep thing'

Straussy says, 'it makes sleep more realistic if well you didnt hear anything'

Peer fails to see where socials becomes = ooc ....?

Heineken says, 'well, but sleeping to heal is soooooo boring...'

Heineken mopes around, depressed.

Straussy says to Peer, 'gestures are used for ooc conversation right?'

Kaige says, 'find a healer to group with'

Kaige says, 'you'll spend less time healing.'

Heineken shrugs philosophically.

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we're looking to change the chat thing in the near future.'

Kaige says, 'or rather sleeping to heal.. this is a multiplayer game afterall'

Straussy says, 'i think adding something like dreams would be cool'

Kae says to Straussy, 'um, it's going in'

LadyAce says to Straussy, 'on the todo list already'

JamaciaMan chuckles politely.

Straussy coughs loudly to himself.

Heineken cheers wildly!

Heineken says, 'that will be nice'

JamaciaMan says, 'make different ones for men and women =P'

Straussy says to Kae, 'um thanks for the insight'

Kae says, 'it was going to be in Malta, actualy it was the horsemen supposed to control it, but then we decided to do dreams on the code level instead.'

Lorenzo says to JamaciaMan, 'that's presumptuous, isn't it?'

JamaciaMan chuckles politely.

JamaciaMan says, 'well, men and women dream about different things...maybe make a handful gender bias and the majority both can see'

Changag on certain Channels only?

Sandman says, 'ok quick thing on gag'

Sandman says, 'can we make it possible to certain channel only gag players?'

Sandman says, 'like say i want to gag someone who is singing on the gossip channel only but hear them on chat auction etc'

LadyAce says, 'sounds sorta cumbersome to me'

LadyAce says, 'but put it in on idea'

Lorenzo says to Sandman, ' http://www.legendmud.org/Community/lectures/QandA/QA_04_12_01.html#CHANNELS1'

How are Ideas Judged?

JamaciaMan says, 'do imms actually listen to my ideas and see if it plausable, or are they instantly dismissed as the rantings of a stoner?'

Gondar chuckles politely at JamaciaMan's feeble witticism.

Kaige says, 'I don't look at names, but at the text itself'

LadyAce says, 'we evaluate them based on the idea itself.'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

JamaciaMan nods solemnly.

LadyAce says to JamaciaMan, 'if it worries you, you can always suggest as a guest'

JamaciaMan chuckles politely at LadyAce's feeble witticism.

Revamping Healing?

Gondar says, 'is there any thought on revamping the healing, to keep up with the new hp/ma/mv formula?'

LadyAce says, 'we revamped regen rate, I don't think we're going to do healing too'

Gondar says, 'with people having so many more hp, it seems that healers need upgraded'

JamaciaMan says to Gondar, 'good question'

LadyAce says, 'there've been a lot of upgrades to healers without any downgrades elsewhere. I don't see people having a lot of trouble staying healed when they use a healer.'

Kaige says, 'nothing I know of on that front... wouldn't likely be either unti the create healing issue is settled'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Gondar says, 'I havent seen any healer upgrades. . .'

Gondar looks up into the sky and ponders.

Gondar says, 'my surgeon still heals the same'

Gondar shrugs philosophically.

LadyAce says, 'certain stats being high, right hometown, sleepine patient all boost surgery'

Kae says, 'My surgeon is usually spammed stupid by requests for healing'

LadyAce says, 'druids can get decent augments without 100 spr, and can make poultices which heal more hp than they used to'

LadyAce says, 'are the two upgrades I was thinking of, anyway'

JamaciaMan nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Grouping and XP Bonuses?

Sandman says, 'grouping and xp is something im not all informed with'

Sandman says, 'i know we get a xp bonus for grouping'

Kae says, 'grouping is beneficial in many ways.'

Sandman says, 'is there an exact figure that was given? and the basic question is can the bonus be looked at to depend on levels in the group'

Sandman says, 'as in it would be better for 2 players around the same level vs 2 players with a 20 level difference'

Kae says to Sandman, 'it already checks the level range in the group'

Kae's not certain how specific she's allowed to get, though.

Kaige doubts there was an exact figure given and it already deals with levels.

Sandman says, 'so it is set now to where if your grouped with same levels as you it would be better than say a level 35 with a level 10?'

JamaciaMan looks up into the sky and ponders.

Vinnie gives Kae a great big smooch!

LadyAce says, 'there's no specific figures given.'

Kae says, 'I think I'll just say that a group with a wide spread of levels and professions is most efficient xp-wise.'

Sandman says, 'why i say this is because if the bonus was better with levels the same as you it would encourage more same level groups then it would with lower levels to pump up xp which is what i find mostly players do'

LadyAce says, 'I think it's designed to encourage grouping at similar levels rather than dragging a newbie around, because it's more likely that the two people are benefitting each other more mutually'

LadyAce says, 'so we've got that already. Give it a try with two chars close and far, and see how it changes :)'

Sandman says, 'it seems that not only runs with pd and sl normal runs too that if you have a lower level with you it pumps your xp a lot then it would without them'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Sandman says, 'ive messed with it a little already ;)'

Marcel says, 'true, I've seen people actively advertise for a level 1-5 to boost their xp gain'

Sandman nods his agreement with Marcel.

Aurelius nods solemnly.

Sandman says, 'i know if i lead a pd i want a level 25 to boost my xp in that run'

LadyAce says, 'well, put it in as a bug and we can look at tweaking the formula a bit'

Marcel says, 'should probably check a bit more on the mob level vs the lowest group member level'

Sandman says, 'im just one of those types that love groupings and not this solo stuff that most have done'

Stuff to do at Level 50?

Aurelius says, 'any plans in the future, or right now...to make more stuff for level 50s to do?'

Aurelius says, 'instead of XP and the 100mil xp titles'

Kae is planning a fairly huge area for that purpose.

Aurelius says, 'cool'

LadyAce says, 'we're discussing the subject internally at the moment.'

Aurelius says, 'Like more levels'

Aurelius says, 'but i know that's hard...'

Aurelius says, 'would upset all the skill points etc'

LadyAce says, 'no public details are available, but more levels isn't on the table'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

Straussy nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'more levels is probably not an option, but I think you should suggest anything less balance disturbing that strikes you'

Lorenzo shrugs philosophically.

Kaige says, 'I'd rather see something more interesting for people to do than just more mindless xp'ing. but something that would appeal to teh achiever types too'

Aurelius nods his agreement with Kae.

Aurelius says, 'ahh'

Aurelius says, 'so you guys are taking suggestions?'

Aurelius says, 'on what to do for L50s?'

Kae says to Aurelius, 'always :)'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'people have been posting on the boards about this for a while'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'so there's a few threads on discussion'

Kaige says, 'or at least in the archives of the discussion board and the Q&A archives'

Kae says, 'approach builders with ideas for things to do in the existing areas too, as opposed to only 'ooc' stuff like redemption points'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Aurelius nods solemnly.

Newbie Clothes are Spiffy

Aurelius says, 'btw i like the new newbie kit things...just remade a char last night =P'

Kaige smiles at Aurelius.

Marcel says, 'the newbie clothes are spiffy :)'

Kaige says, 'more coming'

Aurelius says, 'medieval ?'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'and industrial next month'

Hometown Changes?

Aurelius says, 'oh! and is the issue of klein as a hometown not-to-many-percs being worked on? or going to be?'

LadyAce says, 'the axiom set isn't being adjusted at present, no'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'I'm not sure I'd agree that the problem is Klein -- Klein is good for fighters. It's fighters that have the trouble :)'

Kaige says, 'klein doesn't suffer from lack of people starting there like Lima does anyway.'

Crash Progress?

Aurelius says, 'poo we had a crash last night...was that bug/memory related?'

Aurelius is anxious for the imms to kill the bugs and then they could work on new stuffs :)

Kae says, 'a crash and a hang is per definition a bug :p'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

Kae says to Aurelius, 'some of us work on bugs, some on new stuffs :)'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we know what caused that particular one, I haven't seen a fix committed for it either'

Aurelius says, 'ohhhhhhh'

Kaige says, 'didn't crash so much as hang solid. I think Sandra killed it this morning. But that was the first problem like that all week, so we did something right.'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'sometimes we're lucky and it will leave a core when we have to kill it, but not always'

Anything to fix STR Coming?

Aurelius says, 'are anymore things being worked on to address the complaints'

Aurelius says, 'about strength? and are the new swords one of the fixes to that?'

Kaige says, 'my strength fighter has had no problems and he doesn't seem to "suck"'

Kae's strength fighter kicks butt.

Aurelius says, 'yeah i played a str/dex/con straight...it rocks'

Aurelius says, 'but when i played 3c create str...kinda fell short of...say con'

Aurelius says, 'or even dex!'

Aurelius says, 'was using fork-tongued for the 3c create...lighter sword'

Kae says to Aurelius, 'can't do them all at once :)'

Aurelius cackles gleefully at Kae - whatever he's going to do to her, glad it's not you!

Kae says, 'my str fighter has zero hp, for instance'

Sandman says, 'its hard to be a really high mind mage and hit well =p'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

Aurelius says to Kae, 'so its basically stunned for eternity?'

Lachesis nods her agreement with Sandman.

Sandman says, 'or high mind and be buffed'

Kae says to Aurelius, 'tumble!'

Aurelius says, 'that's why i like dex :)'

Aurelius 95% of his chars are dex!

Sandman says to Aurelius, 'that is why a lot of players like 3rd circle dex or con =p'

Kae says, 'a character will always be weak against another character type - the trick is finding out whom to avoid'

Aurelius says to Sandman, 'yeah should make str more appealing..'

Straussy says to Kae, 'that really shouldnt be the case'

Kae says to Straussy, 'why not?'

Sandman says, 'im making a 3rd circle str atm actually'

Straussy says, 'you should be able to fight everyone'

Kae says, 'know your weaknesses and strengths, act accordingly'

Aurelius says, 'I just perma'd one last night!'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Aurelius says, 'to make a mind/dex druid'

Kae says to Straussy, 'you are, but some will require more skill than others'

Sandman says, 'i had one before he did really well when he had high mind but when he had dex he sucked for some reason hehe'

Aurelius says, 'con..i like con.. :) but too much hps to heal'

Aurelius rather get small hp dex/armor soaked HPs

Kae says to Straussy, 'able to fight everyone'

Aurelius says, '2c snipers are able to fight everyone :)'

LadyAce says, 'I might've missed a hand or two when the doorbell rang, does anyone have a question?'

Sandman says, 'hey there are ways with every character type to fight and compete well against all others'

Kae says to Aurelius, 'in yer dreams ;)'

Aurelius says, 'my 2c sniper roccckeed!'

Straussy says, 'I eat snipers for breakfast, I many times do I have to say it :P'

Straussy giggles.

Aurelius says, 'except on two occasions i got wfw'd like crazy and had to hit all the healers.'

Aurelius says to Straussy, 'lets arrange a duel!'

Aurelius says to Straussy, 'no strange imm secret death star weapon :P'

Kae gnaws on a vicious double-bladed light saber - what a Neanderthal.

Sandman says to Straussy, 'get ahold of me in october ;)'

Sandman says to Straussy, 'and make sure your hungry ;)'

Straussy says, 'Im always hungry'

Aurelius says, 'my sniper did quite well actually cept for the fact that one wfw or para..i couldn't ignore...had to heal it all up since i had only around 400hps'

Create Healing Changes?

Aurelius says, 'oh yeah...roots...i heard that they were gonna change it'

Aurelius says, 'so that ppl don't run around being hungry just to eat it'

Aurelius says, 'how they gonna do it??'

LadyAce says, 'yes, we're changing that'

Aurelius says, 'Do you know how yet?'

LadyAce says, 'we're not releasing details on the code, but it's been written and is in testing.'

Aurelius nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'okie, looks like we're all done :) thanks for coming tonight.'

Kaige waves happily.

LadyAce smiles happily.

LadyAce waves happily.

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