July 8th, 2004

LadyAce says, 'I'll be around until maybe 8, then I hafta jet'

Sandra says, 'okie'

Kaige ponders a chair's existence.

Sandra says, 'I must make popcorn'

Sandra says, 'brb'

Sandra says, 'ok back'

Purgatory smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'I need to get like a big clock or something'

Purgatory says, 'I just bought an alarm clock that knows what time it is without setting it. It scares me a little.'

Sandra says, 'hehe that is scary'

Kaige says, 'I need two of those.. the kids keep unplugging a couple of ours'

Purgatory says, 'it's cool...and the display is blue'

LadyAce says, 'or just put the time in your prompt :)'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'raise 'em if ya got 'em'

Sandra says, 'else we'll just sit here and twiddle'

Dogbert mutters under his breath.

Sandra points at Purgatory.

Purgatory says, 'okay, the helpfile for sing mentions that it is meant to be used to entrance without an instrument, but that isn't implemented. Would that be hard to implement and is there a chance it will be done anytime soon?'

Sandra says, 'I think we decided against implimenting that?'

Purgatory says, 'hm, what for?'

Kaige says, 'there's rather a lot of disagreement on just how unbalancing that would be.'

Dogbert snickers softly.

Purgatory says, 'well'

Dogbert says to Purgatory, 'you think you need to be *more* powerful.'

Dogbert laughs.

Arnic says, 'of course'

Purgatory says, 'I would argue that a) sing is already not that easy to get stat-wise and b) an instrument isn't that renty anyway.'

Dogbert says, 'with base entrance stats, I can get sing'

Arnic says, 'with the new materials how come somethings that used to beable to mend, repair, or tform can't be now'

Arnic pokes a bracelet with crystals woven into it.

Purgatory says, 'hey wait your turn!'

Sandra says, 'wait your turn ;)'

Arnic says, 'oh'

Arnic says, 'thought that question was over because had a long long pause'

Purgatory says, 'they're conferring maybe ;)'

Sandra says to Purgatory, 'It's something that's a heated topic when it's brought up. We'd have to weigh alot on the pros and cons.'

Purgatory says to Sandra, 'Okay well, if you've given up on it I'd just ask that you change the helpfile, if you haven't, I'd like to vote that I think it is a good idea.'

Purgatory chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'we should change that. Typo it as a reminder :)'

Dogbert says, 'pro: non-herne's using surgeons can now entrance for free'

Dogbert says, 'con: none really, just makes surgeons in general cheaper'

Purgatory says, 'surgeons aren't cheap to begin with'

Sandra says, 'that's not what I heard!'

Dogbert laughs.

Arnic says, 'tons of healing with little mana is great'

Dogbert says, 'what are you smoking'

Dogbert says to Arnic, 'am I cheap?'

Sandra says, 'anyway, sorry we can't give you a better answer to that one :)'

Arnic says to Dogbert, 'when you run far far away you are.'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Dogbert's head.

Purgatory says, 'yeah tons of healing, at like 10 hp at a time'

Purgatory says, 'cheap-ola'

Arnic says, 'better then cause mages'

Dogbert says, 'and entrance, and brew/poultice incite/inject'

Purgatory says to Dogbert, 'Just be glad I can't inject in here anymore.'

Purgatory gets a cloth mask for anesthesia from a large white leather satchel.

Sandra says, 'and a partridge in a pear tree. Let's move on;)'

Sandra points at Dogbert.

Dogbert says to Purgatory, 'oh how cute.'

Purgatory gets a nitrous oxide inhaler from a large white leather satchel.

Purgatory gets a metal syringe from a large white leather satchel.

Dogbert says, 'so this SL and PD experiment'

Dogbert says, 'when it's over? :P'

Sandra says, 'um'

Sandra says, 'tomorrow I think'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Sandra.

Arnic says, 'i like the easy SL'

Dogbert says, 'and 2nd part?'

Kaige says, 'be sure to read the posts about it on the discussion board'

Purgatory says, 'hooray for level 44 limits :P'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says, 'there's a HUGE HUGE HUGE amount of changes'

Kaige says, 'Ruf posted a lot of the things he's changed this past week there'

Dogbert says, 'are the discussion board changes going in?'

Purgatory smiles happily.

Purgatory says, 'it's about time I say'

Sandra says, 'yup'

Dogbert goes ACK TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPTTTTTT!

Arnic says, 'Horror and I killed Cuch with only using one doppel'

Cheyla says, 'SL2 when Rufus finishes it and it gets through testing. Not ETA on that at this point.'

Vendetta says to Arnic, 'you needed a doppel?'

Arnic says to Vendetta, 'well Horror was nekkid.'

Sandra says, 'yay death'

Sandra says to Dogbert, 'That answer your q?'

Purgatory says, 'I still say Ruf should just make Scath lead every run and that will increase the difficulty by a factor of ten'

Sandra giggles.

Dogbert says, 'yes'

Arnic says, 'i second that'

Dogbert nods his agreement with Purgatory.

Sandra points at Purgatory.

Dogbert says, 'who wants to hear my personal grievances with scat! :)'

Purgatory says, 'no one :)'

Arnic says to Dogbert, 'not now maybe later.'

Purgatory says, 'okie my next question'

Purgatory says, 'Rufus said SL2 is all done but is put indefinitely on hold and isn't going in this year, how come?'

Cheyla shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'hm, I dunno'

Sandra says, 'it's being tested'

Purgatory says, 'he said testing was put on hold too'

Cheyla says, 'it went into review earlier this year then he pulled it out'

Vendetta wobbles around unsteadily - better sniff his breath!

Purgatory says, 'hmm'

Vendetta gasps in astonishment.

Sandra says, 'ooh jello'

Dogbert says to Sandra, 'sit with me and vendetta.'

Dogbert says to Sandra, 'sandra sammich :P'

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Arnic jumps on top of an enormous pit filled with jell-o.

Sandra says, 'nah, sticky'

Sandra points at Dogbert.

Vendetta says, 'wasn't I beofre dogbert'

Sandra shakes her head.

Dogbert says, 'ok, related to roofies'

Purgatory says, 'so the answer to my question is, no one knows :)'

Kaige says, 'Arnic and Vendetta were still in the queue as far as I could see'

Sandra nods her agreement with Purgatory.

Sandra giggles.

Dogbert says, 'so now, it's essentially one run area from levels 25-39 that's open to those levels'

Sandra says, 'yea they're after. Dogbert actually raised before Purgatory but I missed it at first'

Dogbert says, 'so um...how are they gonna get xp, those poor 25-39 souls'

Dogbert says, 'I mean, I know the xp exists'

Arnic chuckles politely.

Purgatory says, 'I got to 40 and only went to PD one time'

Purgatory shrugs philosophically.

Sandra says, 'there are quite a few mobs out there in that range. Just because it isn't handed to them on a platter anymore doesn't mean they can't get it'

Dogbert says, 'I just dont think the levels of it available will justify the squeeze that it places on those 14 levels'

Sandra says, 'I have 40ish chars, and I have never leveled in PD or SL'

Vendetta says, 'what about us oldbies'

Arnic says, 'just going to take them alot longer'

Dogbert says, 'which is part of it'

Purgatory says, 'not even longer. This char is what, a month old?'

Purgatory shrugs philosophically.

Dogbert says, 'wont this completely srew up PKE dynamics?'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'loL, how can you lie like that?'

Kaige says, 'and if in the process they learn to get to more places than the French Beach from the Stag, is that a bad thing?'

Huginn says, 'what would?'

Sandra says, 'I'm not lying'

Dogbert says to Vendetta, 'because it's her job.'

Sandra says, 'I don't level in SL or PD'

Dogbert says to Vendetta, 'remember limn? and steal?'

Sandra says, 'in fact, I hadn't been there since it opened until 3 months ago'

Sandra says, 'PD, that is'

Sandra says, 'ask Huginn, he was laughing at me'

Sandra attempts to prod Huginn but Huginn isn't about to go anywhere.

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Vendetta says, 'I can't he's invis'

Huginn laughs at Sandra.

Purgatory says, 'there are several areas that are great for that level range'

Vendetta launches himself across the room and tackles Huginn to the ground!

Arnic nods his agreement with Purgatory.

Cheyla says, 'there's nearly 600 mobs out there in that range that haven't been killed once all week'

Sandra says, 'in fact, I haven't even been to AT in probably 4 years'

Dogbert says, '600'

Dogbert says, 'that's nearly 3/4 of what's required from 25-39 according to your own levelling guidelines'

Arnic says, 'AT is easy with the right group'

Dogbert says, 'help xp'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Dogbert says, 'levelling fornmula is 25+ mobs of your name elvel'

Arnic says, 'and if Trouser is not on it'

Sandra says, 'and by the time you get thru them all, the first bunch will repop ;)_'

Dogbert says, 'which can be roughly approxmiated (very roughly) as 800 level 33 mobs from 25-39'

Purgatory giggles at Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'it might make sense to group up with folks your own level and run around that way'

Dogbert says, 'that's what runs were for!'

Cheyla says, 'oh, that's just how many haven't even been killed. that doesn't count the ones that have been killed'

Sandra says, 'that's just ones that haven't been killed, btw'

LadyAce says, 'most grouping I see is pretty 50s heavy'

Sandra nods her agreement with Cheyla.

Dogbert says, 'yes'

Sandra says, 'there are some areas that concentrate JUST on that level range'

Dogbert says, 'and generally, those under levle 50 arent leeches by necessity'

Sandra says, 'by laziness'

Dogbert says to Sandra, 'that's a huge lie :P'

Sandra shakes her head.

Purgatory says, 'if you wanna go on a run earlier than level 44, there's always KZ. I hear there is an arm item there with my name on it'

Dogbert rolls his eyes heavenward.

Arnic shudders.

Arnic says, 'been on it once'

Arnic says, 'one of the first tries'

Arnic says, 'got to the 2nd room and we all just left'

Dogbert says to Purgatory, 'you really have no right to call me an immature idiot after your last few statements.'

Kaige feels like we're drifting.

Purgatory says, 'bah it's not that bad :P you just can't have people being lazy and going afk and not paying attention like you can in SL and PD'

Vendetta says, 'I had a good question'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Purgatory says to Dogbert, 'You're right, what could be less mature than a positive outlook on xping.'

Arnic says to Vendetta, 'me too.'

Vendetta says, 'but my brain cells are slowly dying from this'

Sandra says, 'let's move on'

Purgatory snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'Arnic's up first tho'

Sandra points at Arnic.

Vendetta says to Kaige, 'suuure he is.'

Arnic says, 'with the new materials how come somethings that used to beable to mend, repair, or tform can't be now?'

Arnic pokes a bracelet with crystals woven into it.

Arnic says, 'tried everything and it told me i can't fix it'

Dogbert says to Purgatory, 'saying you need to be made more powerful, then gloating about being a say....400 hp 30+/40+ hitter with surgery stats?'

Sandra says, 'guys, Arnic has the floor'

Arnic chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'the material type on that one changed from what it had been, but I'd suspect that the type it is, SHOULD be able to be mended'

Arnic nods solemnly.

Arnic says, 'i talked to Snapper and couldn't find out what is wrong'

Kaige says to Huginn, 'Did mend take things like that into account?'

Sandra says, 'bug those that you see are different. And we'll always look into it :)'

Arnic nods solemnly.

Arnic says, 'did a few days ago'

LadyAce has run into some oddities with mend herself, but figured it could be part of the transition.

Arnic says, 'just had to know from th source'

Huginn says to Kaige, 'I believe both repair and mend did.'

Huginn says to Kaige, 'I can check it though.'

Kaige says, 'sounds good.'

Arnic nods solemnly.

Sandra smiles happily.

Vendetta says, 'Does that mean more items will be mendable and repairable, as opposed to most items being TF'

Arnic says to Vendetta, 'tF is good.'

Arnic says to Vendetta, 'mainly because i can do it.'

Vendetta says to Arnic, 'it sucks.'

Cheyla says, 'maybe, but it may also go the other way, too'

Kaige says, 'it will depend on the items themselves and what they're made of'

Vendetta says to Cheyla, 'why do you favour silly mages.'

Arnic says, 'crystals should be tform'

Arnic winks suggestively.

Cheyla says to Vendetta, 'I don't.'

Sandra says, 'eh, she said maybe, and that it could also go the other way too. And that's favouring mages?'

Kaige says, 'ahh.. but the crystals are woven into the bracelet... they're relatively a small part of the item, and not likely what's beign damaged first'

Sandra ponders Vendetta's existence.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'tform doesn't require anything except mana.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'you're making mend and repair harder to do.'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'which is easier.'

Sandra says, '*I* ain't doing anything'

Arnic says to Vendetta, 'i failed tform many times.'

TigerLilly laughs.

Sandra says, 'she said it could go either way'

Arnic says to Vendetta, 'once took 200mana just to fix a slightly damaged eq.'

Sandra says, 'not that all items will now be tf'

Sandra says, 'so chiiiiiiiiiill'

Vendetta says to Arnic, 'you're a failure.'

Dogbert says to Arnic, 'as a mage you got tform and mend.'

Vendetta presses on a suicide switch.

Arnic nods his agreement with Dogbert.

Arnic grins evilly at Vendetta.. wonder what he's thinking...

Arnic pats a sinister, serrated sword of torment affectionately.

Sandra says, 'ok anyway'

Dogbert says to Arnic, 'tform is really too common an item type if you survey 50's.'

Sandra says, 'lets move on, shall we? :)'

Sandra points at Vendetta.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'yes, I got bigger bones to pick.'

Sandra says, 'pick away!'

Vendetta says, 'What went wrong with steal? Why did you do it to steal? And why haven't you fixec steal yet?'

Purgatory says, 'they did fix it'

Vendetta says to Purgatory, 'i was asking her :P'

Sandra says, 'it broke, somebody broke it, it's fixed already'

Arnic says to Purgatory, 'can't use it.'

TigerLilly remembers steal being buggy for years.

Dogbert says, 'steal steal steal'

Dogbert says, '*he* broke it!!!'

Purgatory nods solemnly.

Dogbert points at Vendetta.

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'how did it break?'

Arnic chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'I kicked it'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'will it be happening more?'

Sandra says, 'had some steel toed boots on and WHAM!'

Arnic shudders.

Arnic says, 'i got kicked by them in RL'

Arnic says, 'in the face'

Sandra says, 'coders were trying to fix a bug in it that you loverly thieving types kept complaining about, and it went left instead of right'

Vendetta says, 'the bad puns are making me lag sandra'

Sandra says, 'but Snapper fixed it an the fix will be in tomorrow'

Vendetta says, 'so its not fixed yet!'

Vendetta sticks his tongue out at Purgatory. =P

Sandra says, 'it is fixed'

Sandra says, 'it just isn't IN'

Vendetta says to Sandra, 'its not fixed until its in.'

Sandra says, 'sure it is'

Sandra says, 'it isn't in until it's in'

Dogbert says, 'is it in yet?'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Dogbert's head.

Sandra says, 'anyway, does that answer your question? :)'

Sandra ruffles Dogbert's hair playfully.

Vendetta says, 'i guess'

Sandra says, 'break it again tomorrow'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra points at TigerLilly.

TigerLilly says, 'erm, what's with skills that can't be learned popping into allskills on occasion?'

TigerLilly says, 'very randomly it seems.'

Sandra says, 'probably a bug thing'

Kaige says, 'perhaps you had some stats that were changing?'

TigerLilly says, 'seems to happen when i die and have no eq. but i believe it to be a skill i can't learn because of chant.'

Sandra says, 'yea, it's probably that your stats are altering'

TigerLilly says, 'i could be wrong about that.'

TigerLilly says, 'well, my stats are going up..'

Kaige says, 'could be a skill that you're REALLY close to qualifying for and then your stats change too'

TigerLilly says, 'hmm, i see it now ;)'

TigerLilly says, 'one stat does go down.'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Sandra smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'that help?'

TigerLilly says, 'so, if it's in my allskills, i can learn it?'

Sandra shakes her head.

TigerLilly peers at Sandra, looking her up and down.

Sandra says, 'the teachers still check for what they should check for'

TigerLilly says, 'i thought that was fixed, nm.'

Sandra says, 'being in all skills means that you have the stats to qualify for the skill. Not that you can learn it ;)'

TigerLilly says, 'hence flavor/foul.'

Sandra nods solemnly.

TigerLilly says, 'ok! ;)'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra points at Vendetta.

Vendetta says, 'Can it be made that you can shoot multiple target with same keyword from a preferred location?'

Vendetta says, 'if we were in PD, could we shoot a guy from west?'

Vendetta says, 'if we wanted to?'

Sandra says, 'like shoot east dark?'

Vendetta nods solemnly.

TigerLilly says, 'that would be nice.'

Sandra nods her agreement with TigerLilly.

Sandra says to Huginn, 'That doable?'

Kaige says, 'direction comes last in throw's syntax.'

Sandra says, 'does it work with shoot too?'

Kaige says, 'nope'

Sandra says, 'doh!'

Huginn says, 'I believe that's on the bug list'

Kaige nods her agreement with Huginn.

Vendetta says to Kaige, 'then it wasn't part of the question.'

Sandra says, 'ah cool'

Kaige raises her eyebrow at Vendetta.

Sandra says, 'hey it was a nice little additional tidbit. Chill a little'

Sandra says, 'so, it's on the bug list as something to be done'

Sandra smiles happily.

Vendetta says, 'chill eh?'

Vendetta shrugs helplessly.

Vendetta waves happily.

Vendetta says, 'bye guys'

Sandra points at Purgatory.

TigerLilly didn't know you could throw in a direction ;)

Sandra waves to Vendetta.

Purgatory says, 'can you make it so that glance doesn't echo to the victim?'

Sandra looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'I forget why I didn't make it that way'

LadyAce remembers that being intentional but doesn't recall the discussion

Purgatory says, 'it would be very helpful to people who want to pk fairly but don't want to lose the element of surprise'

Sandra says, 'I know they don't echo if you're invis'

TigerLilly raises her eyebrow at Sandra.

Purgatory says, 'are you sure?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'try it and tell us if it's wrong :)'

Purgatory says, 'what about hidden?'

Sandra says, 'not sure on that'

Purgatory says, 'if it doesn't work on hidden, can it?'

Huginn says, 'sure'

Sandra says, 'idea it'

Purgatory nods solemnly.

Sandra smiles happily.

Huginn says, 'although I think it has to do if they can see you in both cases'

Sandra nods her agreement with Huginn.

Purgatory says, 'yeah, seems reasonable'

Sandra says, 'that a reasonable answer for ya?'

Purgatory says, 'yep, works for me.'

Sandra smiles happily.

Sandra points at Arnic.

Arnic says, 'ok with 3c creates'

Arnic says, 'why is it with high mind the harder the greater summon hits but with the summon fire greater, that it hits the same all the time no matter the mind'

Arnic says, 'higher even'

Arnic says, 'and the other summonings'

Sandra says, 'greater summon is a higher level of casting than the elementals'

Sandra says, 'doesn't mind play a factor in their hp or something tho?'

Arnic says, 'it does but the elementals hitting is just as good with 60mind as if it's was 100mind'

Sandra says, 'I have no problem making them hit less at 60 mind ;)'

TigerLilly snickers softly.

Arnic says, 'i just find it odd'

Sandra says, 'I think mind needs to play a bigger part with creates. It has a large part in cause mage spells'

Arnic says, 'i say creates should have some sort of healing spells'

Sandra says, 'Huginn ran afk, but I told him to backscroll'

Sandra says, 'they do'

TigerLilly says, 'quite nice healing, at 100 mind.'

Sandra nods her agreement with TigerLilly.

Arnic says, 'balms ain't too good when running to heal'

TigerLilly says, 'which brings me to my question ;)'

Arnic pokes his 60 mind

Sandra says, 'you have the bare min mind, suffer ;)'

Purgatory says, 'well it would seem pretty strange to me if a balm at 60 mind healed the same as one at 100 mind!'

Purgatory ducks to the ground.

Sandra giggles.

Arnic says to Purgatory, 'it doesn't.'

Sandra says, 'raise your mind and see the difference'

Arnic says to Purgatory, '100 mind balms heals so much faster then 60mind balms.'

Purgatory says to Arnic, 'I know, and I think it makes sense that way.'

Sandra says, 'incentive'

Sandra says, 'afk 1 min'

Purgatory says to Arnic, 'You want elemental hitting to be different between 100 mind and 60 mind, but you don't think balms should obey that rule?'

Arnic grins evilly at Purgatory.. wonder what he's thinking...

Arnic says to Purgatory, 'i wish with 60mind it heals as fast as 100mind but i think it's fair.'

TigerLilly says, 'i think all spells should be based on level and mind, not cast level and mind.'

TigerLilly shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'back'

Purgatory says to Arnic, 'You want elemental hitting to be different between 100 mind and 60 mind, but you don't think balms should obey that rule?'

Purgatory says, 'bleh'

Purgatory says, 'everyone pretend that didn't happen'

Arnic chuckles politely.

Purgatory says to TigerLilly, 'Are there still things based on cast level?'

Arnic shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'some, yes'

TigerLilly says to Purgatory, 'Sucess of casting, all tof them are based on cast level.'

Purgatory says, 'oh, for some reason I thought that was all done away with'

Shemyaza says, 'for one thing'

Shemyaza says, 'blinding flash is'

Shemyaza grimaces.

Shemyaza chortles at his own joke.

TigerLilly says, 'learn str spell at 30. see what happens.'

TigerLilly says, 'or sink'

TigerLilly says, 'or bless.'

Arnic says, 'blinding flash is a good spell'

TigerLilly says, 'they lat like, a tick..'

Shemyaza says, 'it's based on cast, I mean =)'

Sandra says, 'ok, lets get back on track :0'

Sandra says to Arnic, 'We will probably look into the charmy thing.'

TigerLilly says, 'yeah, my questions is kinda related to his balm thing.'

Arnic nods solemnly.

Arnic says, 'i don't mind being weakened by it'

Sandra points at TigerLilly.

TigerLilly says, 'ok, lets talk about the root skill.'

Arnic says, 'just want my 100mind create to have charms hitting harder'

Sandra giggles.

TigerLilly says, 'it just makes no sense to me, why root, a druid spell, is based so heavily on the stat it's based on.'

TigerLilly says, 'skill rather.'

Sandra says, 'it's based on a couple'

TigerLilly says, 'one being very benificial, and it doesn't take much of that stat to learn it.'

Shemyaza says, 'I didn't understand the TL question'

TigerLilly says, 'if any.'

Shemyaza says, 'I'd like root to be more based on the stat its supposedly based on rather than the stats its supposedly secondary to'

Shemyaza wobbles around unsteadily - better sniff his breath!

TigerLilly says to Shemyaza, 'Basically, at 100 spirit, root isn't very great without high con.'

Shemyaza says, 'I.e. more based on spirit than mind/con'

Shemyaza nods his agreement with TigerLilly.

Shemyaza says, 'your question didn't make sense to me, that's all =)'

Shemyaza hasn't had tea yet though, so it's probably just him.

TigerLilly says, 'i'm wondering why it's based so heavily on con.'

Kaige says, 'I believe it's because all it does is augment your natural healing abilities, not replace them'

Purgatory says, 'bleh'

TigerLilly brutally slays the lagmonster.

TigerLilly says, 'sorry, missed any response.'

Sandra says, 'no response, we all lagged'

Arnic nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'oh I lied'

TigerLilly says, 'i'm wondering why it's based so heavily on con.'

Sandra says, 'Kaige responded and it flew by'

TigerLilly says, 'i could understand one stat effecting ma, and another effecting hp, but that's not the case.'

TigerLilly says, 'i was ld.'

Sandra says, ''I believe it's because all it does is augment your natural healing abilities, not replace them,' Kaige says.'

TigerLilly says, 'con seems to beef them all up drastically.'

Sandra shakes her head.

Shemyaza says, 'con doesn't beef up the mana regen'

Shemyaza says, 'maybe for your alts it does'

Shemyaza says, 'but it never has for mine'

LadyAce has to run

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Sandra hugs LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'the stats that are requird to speed up those , speed them up. root gives them a boost'

TigerLilly screams loudly!

Sandra says, 'the stats that are requird to speed up those , speed them up. root gives them a boost'

TigerLilly says, 'it just seems like con druids, are better because of root.'

TigerLilly says, 'they get a bigger advantage, at less spirit and mind.'

Sandra says, 'eh, not necessarily'

Sandra says, 'more hp to regen'

TigerLilly says, 'yes, but it's at least 3 times faster at double hp.'

Sandra says, 'its a boost to natural heal rate'

Shemyaza says, 'some character types will have advantages others don't'

TigerLilly says, 'hrm, so con naturally heals faster?'

Sandra says, 'or regen rate, I should say, coz it does mana and mv too'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Shemyaza says, 'and the disadvantages to go with it'

Shemyaza nods his agreement with TigerLilly.

TigerLilly says, 'now it makes a bit more sense.'

Arnic says, 'they can't hit as hard'

TigerLilly says, 'ok, so what's dex druids get? :p'

Sandra says, 'flee'

Sandra says, 'dodge'

Sandra says, 'tumble'

Shemyaza says, 'look at the dex druids who CAN fight'

TigerLilly smirks at Sandra.

Shemyaza says, 'those who know what they're doing'

Sandra says, 'hitroll'

Shemyaza says, 'they have plenty'

Sandra says, '(we'll get to that one shortly)'

Shemyaza grins evilly at Sandra.. wonder what he's thinking...

TigerLilly says, 'ok, that answers me, i've never paid much attention to healing rate comparisons otherwise.'

Sandra says, 'Huginn wants to go backwards a min to the salamanders thingie'

Sandra nods her agreement with TigerLilly.

Sandra says to Huginn, 'All you!'

Huginn says, 'the question was does mind effect greater salamanders?'

Sandra says, 'their hitting ability'

Huginn says, 'the answer is yes it certainly does'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

Shemyaza says, 'aha!'

Shemyaza beams at Huginn delightedly.

Arnic says, 'it does?'

Huginn says, 'mind factors into several of their attributes'

Shemyaza thought it did but was allowing for his own senility.

Shemyaza beams delightedly.

Huginn says, 'go low mind and your salamander will be much weaker'

Arnic says, 'with my mind my elementals hits hard'

Huginn says, 'they'd hit harder with higher mind'

Shemyaza says, 'what I've seen (senility allowing) is that the higher ones hit harder.'

Shemyaza nods his agreement with Huginn.

Shemyaza says, 'mine hit hard, too'

Shemyaza says, 'but higher hits harder however'

Shemyaza says, 'I bash and so on and so forth, and it makes up for the less hard hitting'

Huginn nods his agreement with Shemyaza.

TigerLilly thought that was the case.

Shemyaza says, 'whereas my higher -100 mind mages don't fight so well'

Huginn laughs.

Shemyaza says, 'and a lot of the time the ydon't do the specials that will give the elementals that boost'

Sandra ponders Shemyaza's existence.

Sandra says, 'lies'

Huginn says, '-100 mind mages? sweet'

Shemyaza says, 'er nono'

Shemyaza says, 'some of them'

Shemyaza grins evilly at Huginn.. wonder what he's thinking...

Arnic chuckles politely.

Shemyaza bonks Sandra on the head!

Shemyaza says, 'some of them!'

Sandra doesn't believe it.

Arnic says, 'i took off 200hp from kast with my charms and my bash'

Shemyaza says, 'take my first mage =)'

Shemyaza says, 'he still sucks'

Shemyaza sniffs sadly at Sandra.

Shemyaza nods his agreement with Arnic.

Sandra says, 'hehe'

Huginn says, 'how many charms?'

Shemyaza says, 'the bash hurts to hell'

Shemyaza says, 'ups the damage a lot'

Arnic says, '3 elementals and one doppel'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Shemyaza nods his agreement with Arnic.

Arnic says, 'with my 60mind'

Shemyaza nods his agreement with Arnic.

Huginn says, 'getting hit while sitting isn't good'

Sandra says, 'hurts a little'

Sandra nods her agreement with Huginn.

Sandra says, 'owie'

Shemyaza says, 'I personally think it adds up to what I just said, but I could be wrong =)'

Sandra says to TigerLilly, 'I'm gonna hold off on your question for just a min.'

TigerLilly says to Sandra, 'Sure.'

Sandra says, 'a few min ago I said we'd get to the hitoll thing. So, now we're gonna get to it ;)'

Sandra says to Huginn, 'All you again ;)'

Shemyaza says, 'aaah. you'r egoing to make my 20per 36hitroll natural self obsolete'

TigerLilly says to Sandra, 'Hitroll is godlike.'

Shemyaza sniffs sadly.

Shemyaza chortles with amusement.

Huginn laughs.

Sandra nods her agreement with Shemyaza.

Shemyaza mopes around Sandra. You hope you don't start being depressed too.

Sandra says to TigerLilly, 'Not for long ;)'

Shemyaza says, 'I've already been made obsolete once!'

Shemyaza grins evilly.

TigerLilly cheers for Sandra - huzzah!

Arnic says, 'hitroll 0, hitting-crap'

Shemyaza says, 'back when I had -25 per!'

Shemyaza chortles with amusement.

Huginn says, 'actually to be fair, you could say its all rufus.. he took a lot of things that I had been kicking about and improved/implemented them'

Sandra says, 'your perc was more negative than mine? No way!'

Shemyaza says, 'was'

Shemyaza drools contentedly.

Shemyaza says, 'not on my druid though'

Huginn says, 'hitroll will still matter..'

Shemyaza says, 'just this one'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'He's been very active lately.'

Huginn says, 'but now there's a bit of a twist.. str and con people will also get hitroll based on their fight stats'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'Ooooh.'

Huginn says, 'dex will get a slight bonus on the amount they get'

Shemyaza says, 'hmm... my con deadeye!'

Shemyaza drools contentedly.

Huginn says, 'and the effects of hitroll..'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'That makes damroll pretty important, tho.'

Huginn says, 'those will be based on your opponent's ac'

Arnic says, 'so my 0hit roll will be higher because of my str?'

Huginn says, 'so the harder your opponent is to hit, the less hitroll will help'

Shemyaza says, 'ack'

Shemyaza says, 'there goes mobkill?'

Shemyaza says, 'every mob in the world at 50 has -100'

Huginn nods his agreement with Shemyaza.

Shemyaza says, 'well... not EVERY but..'

Shemyaza winces.

Huginn says, 'but you're also getting more hitroll than now'

Shemyaza says, 'but hitroll is based on ac?'

Shemyaza is confused, sorry.

Shemyaza says, 'er is - will be.'

TigerLilly says, 'should be interesting ;)'

Huginn says to Shemyaza, 'The effectiveness is.'

Huginn says, 'ok moving on a bit'

Shemyaza says, 'er sorry'

Shemyaza says, 'still consued'

Shemyaza says, 'confused!'

Shemyaza hangs his head.

Arnic says, 'for mobs i suggest the skills to be less successful'

Huginn says, 'we're going to remove the level bonus you get on ac'

Arnic chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'yay, that should stop some bug reports'

Huginn says, 'and we'll be adding in a new skill for non-chant/augment that will allow you to get that back'

Kaige rolls her eyes heavenward.

Arnic rubs his head but the stagger Rhys gave him with the first headbutt

Huginn nods his agreement with Kaige.

TigerLilly says, 'an ac skill?'

Kaige says, 'oh wait.. it'll just narrow who it comes from then'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

TigerLilly says, 'umm, may i comment?'

Arnic says, 'is there going to be a skill redeem when it goes it?'

Huginn says, 'there will be a new blindfighting skill.. that will allow you to reengage on a previous target..'

Huginn says to TigerLilly, 'Sure.'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'Seems legend is going to great lengths to make non-mage lima chars VERY powerful.'

Huginn laughs.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'no'

Huginn says, 'its not lima necessarily'

Sandra says, 'non mage'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'But it is.'

Sandra says, 'in general'

Shemyaza says, 'oh well they totally gimped them so many years ago that I lost a good character!'

Shemyaza ducks to the ground.

Arnic says to TigerLilly, 'lima is getting pretty powerful.'

Huginn says, 'mages and druids have significant advantages'

Shemyaza says, 'so I'm not complaining now'

Sandra says, 'boo with the mages! boo mages!'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Shemyaza's head.

TigerLilly says, 'lima already gets incite, dip.'

Sandra says, 'down with magic!'

TigerLilly says, 'entrance.'

Huginn says, 'this isn't lima.. its non-mages.'

Huginn says, 'make one from klein or agrabah, doesn't matter to me'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'I understand that.'

Shemyaza says, 'TL has a point'

TigerLilly says to Shemyaza, 'Thank you.'

Shemyaza says, 'Lima gets more advantages than (haha) klein'

Purgatory says, 'will people have a chance to skill redeem?'

Shemyaza says, 'or agrabah. tara can do root with the uh... iron will skill, it's quite nice'

Huginn believes so.

Shemyaza says, 'klein and taran non mages have no plusses that I personally can see'

TigerLilly says, 'i'm just saying, it gives lima even more. i'm not saying that's a bad thing, mages have ruled pkill for ten years.'

Purgatory nods his agreement with Huginn.

Shemyaza says, 'and I am not counting the so-called klein bonus'

Shemyaza says, 'because .. let's not go into that'

Shemyaza chortles with amusement.

Shemyaza says, 'er kleina nd agrabah nonmages'

Shemyaza ponders his own existence - better keep an eye on him.

Purgatory says, 'what's the timetable on this?'

Shemyaza says, 'tara and juggle stats for root and still flavour'

TigerLilly says to Shemyaza, 'Who are you?'

Shemyaza says, 'and augment if you want to go the er... non iron will route'

TigerLilly says to Shemyaza, 'I wanna talk after ;)'

Shemyaza ponders TigerLilly's existence.

Shemyaza says to TigerLilly, 'shemyaza the tea-less.'

Shemyaza mourns his own inadequacies - you feel sorry for him.

Arnic says, 'well i'm off'

TigerLilly nods her agreement with Shemyaza.

Arnic waves happily.

Sandra waves to Arnic.

Huginn says, 'the code is done.. well with the exception of the ac skill piece'

Shemyaza smiles happily.

Shemyaza says, 'things to learn again. woo =)'

Huginn says, 'it could go in a week from tomorrow'

Purgatory says, 'nice'

Huginn says, 'ok shall we move on?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'tigerlilly was next up'

Sandra points at TigerLilly.

TigerLilly says, 'damcap..'

Huginn says, 'wait'

Huginn says, 'I wasn't done'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'oh hehe'

TigerLilly waits.

Huginn says, 'let's see.. blindfighting.. ok'

Sandra says, 'don't throw me off like that!'

Huginn says, 'a str damage avoidance skill..'

Shemyaza says to Sandra, 'you could shoot him.'

Sandra says, 'yea but he shoots back'

Huginn says, 'and a change to the attacker's chance to hit when on the ground.. that drops'

Shemyaza whistles appreciatively.

Huginn says, 'heavier weapons will do more on minimum strikes..'

Shemyaza says, 'str with a rare -100 ac'

Shemyaza says, 'ow ow ow?'

Huginn says, 'some changes to parry'

Shemyaza says, 'up the perc req I hope? ;)'

Huginn says, 'both for advanged skills and parrying/dodging from the ground (its harder)'

Shemyaza says, 'not that I mind but the perc req is ridiculous'

Huginn says, 'and finally some changes to spells'

TigerLilly cheers for Huginn - huzzah!

Huginn says, 'wfw stuns will now cause lag throughout the stun for the caster'

Huginn says, 'so no more firestorming in the middle'

Shemyaza laughs.

Shemyaza holds his head down and mourns the dead.

Purgatory says, 'hrm'

Huginn says, 'damage spells the instantly kill second targets won't cost the full amount of mana..'

Huginn says, 'that part is next week'

Shemyaza says, 'woohoo'

Huginn says, 'and we'll have a new create damage spell'

Shemyaza says, 'time to firestorm braves!'

TigerLilly blinks.

Shemyaza says, 'oh. goody'

Sandra says, 'it's a fun one too'

Sandra says, 'but I'm baised, coz I did it'

Purgatory says, 'there will be a cast level tool thingy for that I hope'

TigerLilly says, 'is it indoor?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'always is one :)'

Huginn says, 'I believe I'll have the stone wall change by then too'

Sandra says, 'anywhere'

TigerLilly says, 'woohoo!'

Purgatory says, 'wow, ALL of this is happening at the same time?'

Shemyaza says, 'ah - what's the stone wall change?'

Huginn says, 'oh a couple of other things'

Sandra says, 'climbing over it'

Shemyaza says, 'oh. good'

Shemyaza drools contentedly.

Huginn says, 'one.. backstab will no longer take positional modifiers for damage'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'You've been busy ;)'

Huginn shakes his head in disagreement with TigerLilly.

Huginn says, 'rufus'

Sandra says, 'Rufus is on a sick coding spree'

Huginn nods his agreement with Sandra.

TigerLilly nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'and the last change that springs to mind..'

Huginn says, 'the reduction in melee weapons for pk stuff will be reduced'

Huginn says, 'so weapon strikes will be more painful'

Huginn says, 'now all that said..'

Huginn says, 'I expect we'll put this in and have a time for feedback.. I expect things to change based on that as needed'

TigerLilly nods her agreement with Huginn.

Huginn says, 'so don't expect it to be absolutely perfect from day one.. that's unrealistic'

Huginn says, 'any more questions regarding these?'

Purgatory says, 'so here comes the bitching'

Huginn says, 'ok'

Shemyaza says, 'don't expect players not to bitch madly, that's unrealistic'

Purgatory shakes his head.

Purgatory says, 'not from me'

Sandra giggles.

Purgatory says, 'from other people when it goes in and isn't flawless from day one'

Purgatory snickers softly.

Huginn chuckles politely.

Huginn nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'yea, it'll get flamage for sure. But hey, shit happens'

Huginn says, 'well I'm braced for it'

Purgatory nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'we hope that you will enjoy the changes'

Purgatory says, 'they sound good on paper'

Huginn says, 'and that it will open up new possibilities'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'There's 3 people here, this should prolly be posted so people will actually know about it. and expect it.'

Shemyaza says, 'I don't think our fight system is really a major problem here ;)'

Purgatory nods his agreement with TigerLilly.

Shemyaza says, 'the changes are very nice'

Huginn counts more than 3 people

Purgatory says, 'may I ask what the general goals are you're trying to accomplish with these changes?'

Kaige counts three morts.

TigerLilly nods her agreement with Kaige.

Huginn nods his agreement with Kaige.

TigerLilly says, 'puny people.'

Huginn says, 'imms are people too!'

TigerLilly grins evilly at Huginn.. wonder what she's thinking...

Shemyaza says, 'stop saying that. they'll kill us all'

Shemyaza gulps nervously.

Huginn says, 'ok.. goals..'

Huginn says, 'to make ac more important..'

Shemyaza says, 'no wait. they need to wait for the changes to kill us so they can't kill us yet'

Shemyaza beams delightedly.

TigerLilly says to Shemyaza, 'I offered to let sandra shoot me earlier, she said no!'

Huginn says, 'since almost everyone had -100'

Shemyaza says to TigerLilly, 'that's why ;)'

TigerLilly nods solemnly.

Huginn says, 'to make hitroll objs less important'

Shemyaza grins evilly.

Huginn says, 'and to give each stat something'

Shemyaza says, 'years late that. this should be interesting =)'

Huginn says, 'obj templates are coming'

Huginn says to Sandra, 'That ok?'

TigerLilly says to Huginn, 'Doesn't making hit less important, in turn make dam more important?'

Sandra says, 'so wave good bye to your old eq!'

Sandra says, 'hm, no more 89 damroll'

Shemyaza groans loudly.

Sandra mopes around, depressed.

Shemyaza says, 'don't remnd me'

Huginn says to TigerLilly, 'It makes hitroll objs less critical.'

TigerLilly nods her agreement with Huginn.

Shemyaza says, 'I have so many I won't even bother to redo them'

Huginn says to TigerLilly, 'Since you now have a ok chance to hit.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Shemyaza.

Shemyaza lets them all sit overrent in the archive.

Sandra giggles.

Huginn says, 'it'll make ac a lot more important'

Shemyaza says, 'question huggy'

Sandra says, 'AC is da boooooooomb'

Purgatory says, 'all the old eq is really being taken out?'

Kaige says, 'yes'

Huginn nods his agreement with Purgatory.

Sandra nods her agreement with Purgatory.

TigerLilly says, 'if you can keep your gear not scrapped.'

Huginn says to Shemyaza, 'Go ahead.'

Sandra says, 'poof. It shall be no more'

Shemyaza says, 'alright. -99 at the moment is er'

Huginn says, 'it shall be converted'

Shemyaza says, 'is nothing to -100'

Kaige says, 'no.. it will change when the code for it goes in'

Shemyaza says, 'will it still be the same way?'

Huginn says to Shemyaza, 'Untrue.'

Shemyaza says, 'it is!'

Huginn shakes his head in disagreement with Shemyaza.

Huginn says, 'not really'

Shemyaza says, 'is. is not! is. is not!'

Shemyaza says, 'is...i