February 26th, 2004

Beige1Guest says, 'I was wondering why maze rooms now give You leave x, but quickly find yourself back where you started.'

Sandra says, 'there was a fix to maze rooms a while back, but it also broke some acts. So that was put in as a fix to that'

Beige1Guest nods solemnly.

Tyranis says, 'ok well this has to do with what seems like a loophole to lose some lag rounds in fights'

Tyranis says, 'ive noticed in certain situations the clear command used with a client command stack can clear and rage or do something, -directly- after a original action'

Tyranis says, 'for example i could weaken>clear>rage and get the spell and rage off simotaneously'

Spanish-Flea was not aware client command lines had lifo principles

Sandra says, 'that's an interesting one. Did you bug it? :)'

Tyranis says, 'no i presumed it was deep within the code so i waited till the next q and a to let you guys know all together'

Elf-Lord warns lagged alot sorry if i take second when it comes ot my turn

Sandra says, 'it's always good to toss it up on the bug channel too, just in case. Kaige sorts those every week'

Kaige says, 'you get a credit for the lotto if you bug it, and then it's also there with everything else so it doesn't get lost or forgotten as easily'

Kaige says, 'then I only have to compile bug lists for everyone from one source'

Sandra says, 'but much thanks for pointing it out, I'm sure Huginn will dig in to find it :)'

Kaige wishes Huginn good luck!

Tyranis says, 'yea but i know kaige sorts through tons of those with only mebbe 50% that are even worth reading'

Huginn has created a shovel!

Spanish-Flea has created a whip!

Tyranis says, 'like when people bug things many times and its not a bug at all, which brings me to another idea, which is some type of feedback system for the bug reports'

Tyranis says, 'this would help on spam or unneccesary bug reports'

Spanish-Flea slaps Karrion.

Kaige says, 'I've been very bad about it lately, but generally things like that get tagged on to the end of Q&A logs.'

Kaige scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Sandra says, 'we've had that come up in the past. It's really, really difficult to give feedback on bug reports. We'd spend half our time just doing that :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Tyranis says, 'well dont think we expect too much than you can do kaige'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Sandra.

Tyranis says, 'but aside from my other PD rufus question im done, whos next'

Kaige says, 'which is why I usually only limit it the ones that come up frequently or might be of interest in the reason WHY we don't consider it a bug to a larger audience'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra points at Elf-Lord.

Tyranis says, 'yea but im sure over the years there have been a few dolt who keep reporting things that are so not bugs, thats gotta be frustrating'

Kaige says, 'but if you have a question about a specific thing, you can always drop a note to the builder or a coder or someone and ask, or bring it up here. =)'

Elf-Lord says, 'my turn?'

Tyranis nods his agreement with Elf-Lord.

Sandra nods her agreement with Elf-Lord.

Karrion says, 'irritation is one reason I have spammed the bug channel in the past.. like failing 11 sneak attempts in a row with 100/95 dex/perc'

Karrion giggles.

Elf-Lord says, 'okay, im not sure if were aloud to say ideas here or what but what do you guys things about making people faint when its comes to food and water'

YamaRaja says, 'stop it'

YamaRaja slaps himself - that looks really strange!

Spanish-Flea says, 'remember kids--if its not what legenddb says--it's a bug'

Spanish-Flea ducks to the ground.

Elf-Lord says, 'cause alot of people go afk and starve and nothing happens'

Kaige glares icily at Spanish-Flea.

Cheyla bonks Spanish-Flea on the head with a sledgehammer.

Karrion says to Elf-Lord, 'you kiddin'? look at me.'

Karrion peers at himself myopically.

Kaige says, 'it was mostly done the way it is, for more of a fun factor than a realism issue'

Sandra says to Spanish-Flea, 'I'm gonna set you to 10xp and trans you into SL ;).'

Tyranis says, 'the balance between reality and fun factor is always whats in consideration'

Elf-Lord nods solemnly.

Elf-Lord says, 'kk was just wondering what your thought on that. cause it would be funny seeing poeple stumbling around from lack of food'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says, 'but it could be interesting if certain mobs in certain areas that people felt safe in going afk and just idling while the rest of their group did the dirty work were to target the hungry and parched'

Spanish-Flea says to Sandra, 'hey, I keep saying, if any imm wants to debate the finer points of off-mud 'cheating', you know there's nothing I like more than not shutting up about something.'

Kaige says to Spanish-Flea, 'You're on thin ice as it is.'

Elf-Lord nods his agreement with Kaige.

Elf-Lord looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'Legenddb is funny. It's got alot of wrong info, and it's entertaining when I can see that people use it by their death messages. But bug us about it and we'll put a hurt on ya ;)'

Sandra says, 'anyway!'

Sandra says to Elf-Lord, 'That help you with your question/idea?'

Elf-Lord nods solemnly.

Sandra smiles happily.

Spanish-Flea says, 'isnt there a question we should be doing instead of slapping around the poor defenseless abused mortal?'

Sandra points at Beige1Guest.

Tyranis says, 'mebbe there should be a notice within the login info that legenddb is not associated or ran by imms'

Kaige says to Elf-Lord, 'Basically it's cause we want to cater to the sociallizers too.'

Beige1Guest puts his hand down. He's forgotten!

Trumpets sound, elephants carrying many things and people stomp by, hundreds of armed men march by. Silence! Chocorua comes running in shouting,"You dolts you forgot the Emperor!"

Tyranis says, 'should clear up some things'

Beige1Guest scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Elf-Lord nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sandra giggles at Beige1Guest.

Karrion raises his hand.

Karrion says, 'ooh, oh, I got one!'

Elf-Lord says, 'thanks guys. cya'

Beige1Guest says, 'sandra sorry'

Beige1Guest peers at himself myopically.

Sandra points at Karrion.

Sandra says, 'that's ok'

Karrion says, 'just wonderin if vial rent maybe will be toned down a bit after the 'no_rent' on effects thing?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'toned down?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'by toned down, do you mean doubled?!'

Karrion says, 'weight alone limits a non str type the number of remedy vials can carry, but rent kinda hurts'

Cheyla says, 'there are no plans to reduce rent on vials'

Beige1Guest says, 'ohh, I didnt know you couldnt rent brewed vials anymore.'

Beige1Guest winces.

Karrion says, 'mage mud, yay!'

Karrion says, 'nah, not what I meant'

Sandra says, 'there's alot of other ways to get rid of affects without having to carry vials though'

Spanish-Flea says, 'as opposed to what, con inciting liman and liman tainter mud?'

Karrion pats Spanish-Flea on the head.

Chocorua says, 'and a lot of vials are even more valuable because the effects won't go away when rented ...'

Sandra says, 'and if you think that a place could use something like that, just toss it up on idea :)'

Karrion says, 'yes, but unless your a mage the removal of said effect is costly in the rent.'

Chocorua says to Spanish-Flea, 'Lets tone down teh sarcasm and stay on topic?'

Tyranis says, 'im afk playing new baldurs gate on xbox, when its my turn again please send me a tell so i see it'

Karrion says, 'guess I need to explore a bit more and find some ways to remove effects'

Karrion says, 'you saying mobs will do stuff like that now or something?'

Tyranis says, 'anyone?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Tyranis smiles happily.

Kaige says, 'most of them have been in since last summer'

Karrion says, 'coo'

Sandra says, 'we put them in last year when we had planned originally to put in the saving thing. So yea they're old now ;)'

Sandra says, 'who was next?'

Kaige grumbles about spamming void triggers.

Beige1Guest raises his hand.

Tyranis says, 'ok this one is mostly a idea that requires immortal perspective feedback'

Karrion says, 'suckin' part is nobody has to search for ways to put those effects on ya :P'

Karrion chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'oops sent tyranis a tell but din't point'

Sandra says to Tyranis, 'Go ahead.'

Spanish-Flea raises his hand.

Allegory says to Karrion, 'I think the problem is that you can be "blinded/weakened anywhere, but to cure, you pretty much have to run to the mobs.'

Tyranis says, 'the idea of "large" str based throwies came to thought and it sounded neat, area effect or something to that nature such as a boulder or something that only a person with great "strenghth" could adhere'

Allegory says, 'back to afk'

Allegory blushes bright red.

Huginn says, 'as opposed to the innkeeper?'

Karrion says, 'and um, I have yet to hear of anyone who knows who these mobs are'

YamaRaja pokes Allegory in the ribs.

Tyranis says, 'ok allegory got trigger finger ill wait and repeat'

Tyranis smiles at Allegory.

Kaige says, 'maybe they're not all mobs either?'

Allegory says to Huginn, 'To my knowledge, there are a lot more innkeepers than cure mobs :(.'

Karrion nods his agreement with Allegory.

Allegory goes ACK TTTHHHHHPPPPPTTTTT! all over Kaige - what a mess!

Huginn says to Allegory, 'Maybe :-).'

Allegory looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kaige waves the unpopular 'explore' sign.

Spanish-Flea growls at Kaige. Better leave before the fighting starts!

Allegory says, 'i can't believe how secretive (SECRETIVE!) the immorts have been about these cures'

Allegory snickers softly.

Spanish-Flea says to Kaige, 'your ice is cracking.'

Huginn says, 'also the point is that the person blinding you is also investing something to do it.. tainted arrows, mana etc'

Sandra giggles at Allegory.

Allegory says, 'usually, someone will have spilled the beans by now'

Karrion nods his agreement with Allegory.

Allegory holds his head down and mourns the dead.

Karrion says, 'some of us don't like to explore'

Karrion says, 'we like to interact with eachother'

Huginn says, 'negating it completely isn't right either'

Karrion says, 'rather than the rooms.'

Kaige says to Tyranis, 'Sounds cool. I like it. I'm not sure if we have any of those currently, but wouldn't be too hard to add (as long as the player could lift it to begin with).'

Allegory nods his agreement with Huginn.

Allegory says, 'okay, really back to afk :('

Chocorua says, 'pay someoneelse to explore then'

Tyranis says, 'thanks kaige i thought i was a neat idea myself'

Karrion pats Chocorua on the head.

Tyranis says, 'minimum str to be able to hurl it into another room'

Sandra says to Tyranis, 'Put it up on idea.'

Tyranis nods solemnly.

Sandra smiles happily.

Tyranis tickles Sandra.

Sandra points at Beige1Guest.

Tyranis smiles happily.

Beige1Guest says, 'With inactive imms, can they be as inactive as long as they like, or do they get moved to retired after a certain amount of time?'

Tyranis raises his hand.

Kaige says, 'the latter'

Beige1Guest nods solemnly.

Jasra raises her hand.

Tyranis says, 'umm i might want to leave for that conversation'

Tyranis got a bone to pick with that whole ordeal.

Tyranis wrinkles his nose with distaste.

Karai pokes Sandra in the ribs.

Sandra says, 'if you plan on being inactive indefinitely, it's probably a good idea to retire'

Sandra says to Karai, 'I'm doing the QnA at the moment. You will have to wait.'

Beige1Guest says, 'What kind of time is the usual?'

Spanish-Flea slaps Varnel.

Tyranis makes a face at Varnel.

Chocorua says, 'you can make arrangements if its a known time frame for an absence too'

Varnel kisses Spanish-Flea passionately.

Sandra nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Cheyla says, 'or if it's something based on an event...'

Beige1Guest nods solemnly.

Cheyla says, 'like graduating, for example'

Sandra says, 'basically, let us know :)'

Tyranis grins evilly at Varnel.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sandra says, 'that help answer your question?'

Beige1Guest says, 'and say for example I had a wonderful idea for an area that an inactive imm was already working on...?'

Beige1Guest whistles innocently to himself.

Beige1Guest chuckles politely.

Chocorua says, 'working on or proposed?'

Sandra says, 'you'd probably have to talk with Cheyla about it'

Kaige says, 'if we haven't seen an imm since the last time apps were taken, something's up and I'll drop them a note to see what their plans are and what's going on with them.'

Beige1Guest says to Chocorua, 'Im not actually sure.'

Beige1Guest nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'ok, lets move on'

Sandra points at Spanish-Flea.

Jasra raises her hand.

Spanish-Flea says, 'where to begin''

Spanish-Flea says, 'ah, I gotta gripe about spirit'

Spanish-Flea says, 'the current requirement for a lot of classes is too low I feel'

Spanish-Flea says, 'you got yourself a perc minimum to be of any real use, but there really doesnt exist such a limit with spirit'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and a mind minimum'

Sandra says, 'there is a spirit min'

Karrion nods his agreement with Sandra.

YamaRaja says, 'and mind'

Spanish-Flea says, 'yes, but in comparison to other stats'

Chocorua says, 'there are negatives for low spirit all over the place'

Spanish-Flea blinks.

Sandra nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Sandra says, 'we annoyed lots of fighters by putting in that spirit req, so I know it's there ;)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'obviously something was lost in translation, lemme clarify: the spirit min is like 6 times as low as the perc min :P'

Karrion says, 'yeah, had to fix mine, -to hit/dam was extreme'

Chocorua says, 'it's lower but not nearly that bad'

Cheyla says, 'spirit is a bit less tangible, too'

Spanish-Flea waves a 'Free Kae From Hell' tee.

Spanish-Flea runs in circles around Kae, squealing loudly.

Sandra says, 'yea, it's not quite as necessary as the others. But it's enough to give a penalty, nonetheless'

Spanish-Flea says, 'what ever happened to the idea of making spirit a fighting stat, did that go flush with martial arts and skilltrees?'

Chocorua says, 'soemthing liek that'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and I mean the idea of a spirit mage, not this iron will stuff, but that's kickass'

Spanish-Flea pets Huginn lovingly.

Chocorua says, 'though i wouldn't say its been flushed'

Karrion says, 'courage, valor, iron will seem to be pretty nice'

Spanish-Flea says, 'anybody else got anything else or can I rant like a madman for the next hour?'

Kae says to Spanish-Flea, 'Yeah, I have a sudden urge to hurt you :p.' Tyranis says, 'go ahead im always game for watching tangents'

Sana says, 'what code changes are up this week?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'with witty interludes from our resident imms'

Spanish-Flea says to Kae, 'like that!'

Kaige says to Spanish-Flea, 'I don't think without getting more specific about which professions you see as lacking them... this isn't going far.'

Huginn says to Sana, 'Bug fixes only this week.'

Karrion says, 'Oh yeah, I gots another one'

Sana nods solemnly.

Tyranis says, 'get in line fool'

Tyranis chuckles politely.

Sana points at Karrion.

Karrion says, 'speaking of bug fixes'

Karrion whistles innocently to himself.

Kaige says, 'hang on... Tyranis is up next followed by Jasra...'

Karrion says, 'i'm hangin'.. I didn't just flop mine out on the table, now did I?'

Kaige says, 'to get in the queue, raise your hand'

Karrion whaps Tyranis across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Karrion giggles.

Kaige smiles at Karrion.

Kaige points at Tyranis.

Tyranis says, 'oooh tough guy'

Tyranis chuckles politely.

Spanish-Flea says, 'can we make it a 'priority' queue?'

Tyranis smiles at Karrion.

Spanish-Flea says, 'with me as the highest and everybody else with infinitely less?'

Chocorua says to Spanish-Flea, 'If i can prioritise you last.'

Spanish-Flea is done speaking now, will rant later *zzzziiiiipppp*

Karrion says, 'well, I do wonder just how high you are sometimes.'

Karrion says, 'but um, no.'

Tyranis says, 'ok BEFORE I say this, all imms - no whacking,whaping,acking before i finish please'

Karrion pats Spanish-Flea on the head.

Karrion chuckles politely.

Cheyla says, 'oh, so bonking is ok? cool!'

Spanish-Flea bonks Cheyla on the head!

Beige1Guest snickers softly.

Sana bonks Tyranis on the head!

Chocorua says, 'if i see ya going downa rathole i gotta try and stop ya'

Karrion pukes all over Tyranis - yuck!

Spanish-Flea is tyranis' bonking enforcement, 2:1 retaliatory bonking in effect

Spanish-Flea bonks Sana on the head!

Karrion says, 'I like that one better'

Tyranis says, 'ok about skills for redemption points, i know the general consensus doesnt frown upon the idea'

Beige1Guest raises his hand.

Tyranis says, 'but i think it makes since because older character would be more experienced and have fine-tuned skills, this doesnt mean -gaining- skills but staying at a max number'

Sana says, 'redeem skills for redeem points, woot'

Karrion puts some aloe on his past flame wounds from this thread.

Chocorua says to Tyranis, 'I seriously don't see that happening.'

Spanish-Flea says, 'mmm...bye bye incite on archived mages'

Spanish-Flea snickers softly.

Sana nods her agreement with Spanish-Flea.

Sana says, 'I still have eloquence on people, ick'

Spanish-Flea whaps YamaRaja across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Spanish-Flea says, 'lets see what useless stuff I've learned:'

Karrion says, 'yeah, wassup with no reimbing inspire anymore for old char?'

Kaige says, 'I'd rather see skills that go unused for extreme periods of time go away naturally.'

Beige1Guest smiles at Kaige.

Spanish-Flea jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Kaige!

Kae says, 'ooo, I like that'

Karrion says, 'and regain a prac?'

Sana says to Karrion, '"*charlie brown laughing noise*"'

Karrion cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

Beige1Guest nods his agreement with Kaige.

Chocorua peers at Kaige, looking her up and down.

Chocorua shudders.

Tyranis says, 'well ive heard this come outta many imms mouths'

Tyranis says, 'we wont reward characters for simply collecting xp'

Spanish-Flea says, 'if it was kae's, it dun count'

Kaige says to Karrion, 'Basically, we allowed a window of opportunity to do reimbs and it expired. It was well advertised so we were sure those that pay attention to the community were informed.'

Kaige says to Karrion, 'Yes.'

Tyranis says, 'well aside from the coupons which is wonderful since that'

Kae says, 'you've not heard me claim that people who have time to play all day should have advantages over those who don't, sorry'

Chocorua says to Kae, 'They already have the advatage of more time to do stuff.'

Tyranis says, 'good point, then again kae this is a non-aggressive feedback question'

Tyranis smiles at Kae.

Spanish-Flea says to Kae, 'it was more of a general comment :P.'

Karrion says, 'bah.. what I don't get is how that makes us any less entitled to the reimb.. some of us go months without logging on'

Kaige says to Kae, 'There is that.. which is why I said extreme. and more likely measured in real-time than ticks online.'

Kae says to Tyranis, 'You might have heard me say we do need more things to do with redeems though :).'

Sana nods her agreement with Karrion.

Kaige says, 'which.. is likely part of why it's still not implemented'

Kae nods her agreement with Kaige.

Karrion says, 'same skill, same uselessness'

Sana says, 'every reimb always seems to happen when i'm gone for months at a atime'

Karrion says, 'if we learned it before change.. I don't get it'

Kaige comforts Sana.

Kae says, 'I make a point of ranting about redeem options every six months or so on the godlist but for obvious reasons it's not a top priority for the coders compared to other things'

Tyranis says, 'well with the taking out of old gear, which is realy for the best in the overall picture for legend'

Tyranis says, 'what sets real oldbies apart from a brand new player'

Beige1Guest says to Kaige, 'I really really like that idea.'

Kae says, 'knowledge and experience'

Spanish-Flea says to Tyranis, 'eloquence.'

Cheyla says, 'knowledge'

Huginn says to Tyranis, 'Experience.'

Spanish-Flea snickers softly.

Chocorua says to Tyranis, 'Number of alts.'

Kaige says, 'knowledge -- of the game and other players playing it.'

Tyranis says, 'right but ive seen intelligently gifted people like a rl buddy of mine start playing and make incredible characters from the begining'

Spanish-Flea says to Tyranis, 'if it's from london or lima it doesnt count.'

Kaige says, 'yup, not impossible.. until you start paying people with in-game advantages for the time they log'

Sana says, 'I hope they remove old gear fast so I can start adding on 5-6 years on my playing since date by making unreasonable claims I can't back up now. Like "oh man I lost 3 blinding wormys to that change!"'

Sana coughs loudly.

Kaige says, 'anyway.. that cover this one for now?'

Salome raises her hand.

Tyranis says, 'well i do realize that the removal of old gear really gives experienced players a still upper hand'

Karrion grins evilly at Sana.. wonder what he's thinking...

Beige1Guest says, 'It does?'

Tyranis says, 'because they will have to use their eq list making skills or such to step up to the challenge'

Sana says, 'I don't think old gear is really that big a thing, my new gear guy will still whomp any old gear hitters and they are fewer and fewer in number lately'

Tyranis says, 'there will always be the people who make characters solely to attempt to be the best'

Tyranis chuckles politely at Sana's feeble witticism.

Kae says, 'it's one way to play the game, yes'

Kaige says, 'anyway.. if we have specific questions about old gear... raise your hand and we'll come back to it.'

Kaige points at Jasra.

Karrion says, 'yeah, none of mine have old gear and I can still totally hold my own in all categorys'

Kaige says, 'but now.. jasra has the floor.'

Jasra smiles happily.

Spanish-Flea says to Karrion, 'except bragging about having old gear.'

Jasra says, 'I have a question about warnings..'

Karrion nods his agreement with Spanish-Flea.

Sana snickers at Spanish-Flea nastily.

Jasra says, 'if you get a warning, will it ever go away?'

Karrion says, 'seems another change to please the whiny nitpickers, imho'

Karrion says, 'like grad stat'

Karrion ducks to the ground.

Kaige says to Jasra, 'Yes and no.'

Chocorua says, 'it will lose focus after 6 months or so but i won't ever forget about it entirely'

Kae says, 'yes and no, they expire in 6 months but that'd be a bad excuse to go get a new one by then ;)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'warnings are badges of honor, because you can always decry 'imm abuse''

Spanish-Flea suddenly is hurled to the ground in a puddle of glue by Chocorua.

Kae thanks Chocorua heartily.

Chocorua says to Spanish-Flea, 'Enough.'

Kae says, 'that wasn't even funny'

Kaige says, 'after 6 months they're mostly useful to the imms in establishing a pattern of poor behaviour'

Chocorua says to Spanish-Flea, 'I asked you earlier to stay on topic and drop teh sarcasm.'

Kaige says to Spanish-Flea, 'He JUST beat me on that one. I don't appreciate the constant interruptions.'

The glue around Spanish-Flea dissolves.

Sandra says to Jasra, 'You should also be sure to read help warning. It spells it out for you pretty much.'

Jasra says, 'what if you have 2 warnings..would it take 1 year to get both of them deleted?'

Kae says to Jasra, '6 months from when you get them, not cumulative.'

Sandra says, '6 months from the last one'

Kaige says, 'it's 6 months from the date of each one'

Salome says, 'chocorua's comment about never forgetting is kinda scarry, I certainly hope he never makes those type of mistakes and has people who hold it over their heads forever until the end of time'

Kae says to Jasra, 'You don't need to worry about that though, just make sure not to get new ones.'

Jasra nods solemnly.

Kae says to Salome, 'That's not what he meant.'

Jasra says, 'okay that's my only question'

Sandra smiles at Jasra.

Kaige says to Salome, 'I think he meant more that the immortals view of warnings still shows it.'

Jasra smiles at Sandra.

Kaige smiles at Jasra.

Chocorua says to Salome, 'The logs have a very long memory.'

Kaige points at Salome.

Kae says to Salome, 'We keep a list stashed so we can track behavior patterns for people who repeatedly cheat in spite of warnings.'

Tyranis says, 'how many bytes?'

Beige1Guest raises his hand.

Spanish-Flea raises his hand.

Tyranis says, 'well nm that might take investigative work to answer'

Salome says, 'Im not sure you can even answer this question but ill try'

Salome says, 'I am on a crusade so to speak, more an item hunt, can you tell me without giving any specifics if there is....'

Neptune waves happily.

Salome says, 'a str weapon that is one handed, does not slash, does not have an extra attack and can be used by a good aligned character? ohh, q5 also'

Kaige waves the 'explore' sign and quickly ducks behind it as a tomato sails toward her from the back of the room.

Cheyla giggles at Kaige.

Cheyla says, 'maybe!'

Salome says, 'I have been searching and talking to experienced players'

Neptune says, 'i actually tried reading it...'

Neptune frowns.

YamaRaja says, 'hehe'

Salome says, 'no one thinks there is'

YamaRaja says, 'some not so specifics already'

Sandra says, 'I couldn't say for sure. probably. But I'd have to think about it and my brain is fuzzy'

Salome says, 'I d just like to know if im wasting my time searching I guess or if yes, there is something out there'

Sandra says, 'no it's not a waste of time'

Kae says, 'without going off to test it I can think of at least one that matches those reqs'

Chocorua says to Salome, 'If ya can't find it feel free to suggest one where you think appropriate.'

Kaige says, 'can always suggest that something like that be considered on the idea channel... might luck out and get some stumped builder who decides they like that idea too'

Kae steals Kaige's sign and waves it around a bit.

Salome says, 'I allready did suggest it'

Salome says, 'just a basic item, nice little q5 5 stat weapon that does not slash and is one handed would go a long way'

Salome says, 'well, and good aligned or no aligned'

Kaige says, 'basic'

Salome smiles happily.

Kaige giggles.

Karrion says, 'making resist eq harder to get/way more renty would probably have rendered that question moot.'

Chocorua says, 'thre is nothing little abotu q5 5 stat items'

Spanish-Flea says, 'it'd also become god's gift to PK'

Salome says, 'well, no frills'

Chocorua says, 'they should be rarer than they are'

Karrion ducks to the ground.

Salome says, 'I mean no second attacks or specials or stuff like that'

Spanish-Flea says to Salome, 'which is a why a dirty con inciter shouldnt have access to one.'

Salome ponders Spanish-Flea's existence.

Salome says, 'I fail to see where your mouth is taking you, perhaps you enjoy being thought of as a little man for your comments'

Spanish-Flea says to Salome, 'i'd care, I'm not the one here who's trying to make one of the easiest Pk builds in the game even easier to play.'

Salome says, 'thats it, thank you for your time'

Karrion says, 'just one of the less skilled who actually fealt inciters are overpowerd.'

Salome says, 'this coming from someone who plays a con druid?'

Karrion laughs.

Sana rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Karrion nods his agreement with Salome.

Sandra says, 'ok guys'

Karrion says, 'that was funny, though'

Sana says, 'touche bro :p'

Karrion giggles.

Sandra says, 'lets bicker later :) back to questions'

Karrion says, 'more than touche.. that was a fatal stab :P'

Spanish-Flea says to Sandra, 'it's 'pk rp', not 'bickering'.'

Sandra says, 'not in the qna it isn't'

Karrion chuckles politely at Spanish-Flea's feeble witticism.

Sandra says, 'it's getting on my nerves :)'

Sandra points at Beige1Guest.

Karrion says, 'rp..' Salome says, 'im done, im sorry'

Beige1Guest says, 'I saw the picture of the mud machine thats posted on the news board. Wow, how disappointing, I thought it would be.... bigger? Scarier looking?'

Karrion wrinkles his nose with distaste.

Chocorua says to Spanish-Flea, 'This is OOC not an rp feast.'

Sandra giggles.

Kaige chuckles politely.

Sana says, 'whats rp?'

Sandra says, 'it sometimes makes weird noises, does that help?'

Karrion says, 'pk bashing?'

Sana says, 'oh my bad, forgot to raise my hand'

Karrion ducks to the ground.

Beige1Guest chuckles politely.

Beige1Guest nods solemnly.

Kaige says to Tyranis, 'Sometimes cases can be deceiving... but that pic was also a couple years old.'

Sandra giggles.

Cheyla says, 'it's what's on the inside that counts'

Tyranis says, 'not meaning to be rude in the slightest, i appreciate everyone listening to my ideas/bugs but i have a RL buddy he needs my assistance'

Tyranis gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Beige1Guest says, 'Id like flames painted on the side please'

Beige1Guest chuckles politely.

Kae built one third of hell on a 3/86 laptop, does that count?

Spanish-Flea shakes his head.

Karrion says, 'and a toothy grin like on those WWII bombers'

Sandra giggles.

Karrion nods to himself.

Beige1Guest smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'ok, next up'

Sandra points at Spanish-Flea.

Sana says, 'legend machine would be pimpin if yall painted it to be a benjamin'

Chocorua would ratehr see it sitting in a rack soewhere being quiet and more powerful

Spanish-Flea says, 'me?'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Salome says, 'sitting in a rack connected to other machines that boost its power sitting next to a t3 connection maybe'

Beige1Guest nods his agreement with Chocorua.

Sana snickers at Salome nastily.

Kae is no fan of Chicago routers, that's for sure.

Beige1Guest says to Chocorua, 'And with a fluffy dice hanging off it too.'

Kaige says, 'ahem... Spanish-Flea has the floor...'

Spanish-Flea says, 'shush, I'm typing, dont pester me when I'm *finally8 being quiet'

Karrion says, 'finally gots the floor and he shuts his trap for the first time in the qand a'

Karrion giggles.

Beige1Guest chuckles politely. Sana says, 'yeah'

Sana says, 'maybe he has performance anxiety'

Sana says, 'can we interrupt him like he does everyone else?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'alright, two pronged, first off, if you DT with a stolen item, is the XP taken off related to the rent or stats of the DTed stolen item?'

Karrion says, 'fraid of gettin' heckled.'

Sandra says, 'nah, lets not :)'

Kaige says, 'I'd prefer not..'

Sandra says, 'rent'

Spanish-Flea says, 'it'd be fine with me, but you'd just get glued like me, which I find funny now'

Kaige says to Spanish-Flea, 'Well since the two are tied...'

Cheyla says, 'both, sorta, since stats determine rent'

Sandra says, 'so don't dt with a stolen platinum leaf ;)'

Chocorua says, 'rent which is tied to all teh attributes'

Spanish-Flea points at Sandra.

Spanish-Flea says, 'ingame info'

Sandra pats Spanish-Flea on the head.

Karrion says, 'ooooh!'

Karrion says, 'burn her!'

Karrion says, 'warn her!'

Kaige says, 'grow up?'

Sandra says, 'isn't like I said the rent ;)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'and secondly, stop kicking me around because you dont like me, I'll just idle afk along with the pot who's calling my kettle black'

Spanish-Flea whaps Salome across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Salome rolls her eyes heavenward.

Karrion chortles with amusement.

Salome says, 'can I please respond with slander? please?'

Kaige says to Spanish-Flea, 'Might wanna consider that it works both ways. You tend to reap what you sow.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Spanish-Flea nods his agreement with Salome.

Spanish-Flea says, 'you have my blessing'

Chocorua says to Spanish-Flea, 'It's not because noone likes you its because you never shut up and have to be the center of attention so ya gotta be smuched so otehrs can talk once in awhile.'

Salome says, 'acctually, your simply not worth it'

Salome shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'I really hate spammy void triggers'

Kaige grumbles.

Kaige says, 'especially here where I have to zap them from a log.'

Beige1Guest chortles with amusement.

Kaige says, 'it's SO simple to set them up so they don't spam the room.'

Karrion says, 'ok, who next, cuz seems like bro lost a prong.'

Sandra says, 'yea just have it look'

Sandra says, 'yea, any other questions?'

Karrion says, 'I gots one'

Kae says, 'or a ticker to send a command to avoid it altogether'

Kaige says, 'or even just send a return so it doesn't spam you either'

Sandra points at Karrion.

Beige1Guest says, 'or pray Hi, Im afk!'

Kaige glares icily at Beige1Guest.

Beige1Guest ducks to the ground.

Karrion says, 'my bag was stolen by the lean siscilian merchant in malta the other day (cursed bag, I might add) and he packed it away, so I coudln't get it back.'

Kaige says, 'that's a quick way to get glued'

Sana is changing hers to pounce kaige.

Kae blinks.

Sana says, 'then it wont spam people except when kaige is here'

Sana ducks to the ground.

Kae says to Karrion, 'Stolen or picked up?'

Karrion says, 'stolen, cursed so how could I drop?'

Kae blinks.

Karrion says, 'sides, I had no reason to drop'

Kae says, 'I hope you bug reported that and how it happened'

Kae says, 'cos he shouldn't do that'

Karrion says, 'yeah, I did, but no reply so I askin' bout it now'

Kae nods solemnly.

Kae hasn't seen her reports from this week yet.

Kae says, 'he should not steal from players, he does grab stuff off the ground'

Karrion says, 'had like 10k worth of eq, jokes and treats in there.'

Kae goes ACK TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPTTTTTT!

Sandra wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Kae says, 'I'll look at it tonight I promise'

Karrion says, 'yeah, was crappy, but um, can replace all but treats and jokes'

Kaige says, 'you plain shouldn't be able to steal cursed items anyway.'

Kae says, 'that sounds really really creepy'

Karrion says, 'tanks! :)'

Kae nods her agreement with Kaige.

Karrion says, 'so is he sposed to eat the stolen stuff like that, though?'

Kae says, 'he's supposed to eat his stuff when he dies'

Karrion says, 'cuz I killed him and couldn't unpack it or get it back'

Kae says, 'he's not supposed to steal at all, though'

Salome remembers when someone without create magic wanted to curse their chalice once

Kae says, 'and if he grabs stuff he should offer it for sale'

Karrion chuckles politely.

Sandra says, 'what kinda bag was it?'

Karrion says, 'otterskin'

Cheyla says to Kae, 'Not if it's something shopkeepers aren't supposed to sell, tho.'

Kae says to Cheyla, 'True.'

Kae says, 'the pouch or the bag?'

Karrion says, 'bag, from quebec'

Kae nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'and you're sure it was him and not someone in disguise'

Kae says, 'I mean, not to imply you're dumb, just never having heard this one before and a bit boggled :)'

Karrion says, 'yeah, I saw a message that said he packed it away for shipment to the continent'

Kae says, 'well, then he certainly had it, yes'

Karrion says, 'would be a merchant or something, too'

Karrion says, 'not lean siscilian :P'

Kae says, 'no, the lean sicilian merchant packing stuff away means he had it'

Kae says, 'question is how he got it'

Kae says, 'if someone stole it and gave it to him maybe, or he's buggy as hell'

Karrion says, 'that skill is what brought the reimb on inspire to my attention, too.. hey we full circle on my part of the convo'

Karrion ducks to the ground. Sana says, 'question is will karrion get his funnyfunny jokes back'

Sana sniffles quietly.

Karrion says, 'cursed..'

Karrion ponders stolen cursed stuff.

Kae says, 'shouldn't be able to steal something cursed at all, which does seem to indicate that a buggy Giacomo is the culprit'

Kae says to Karrion, 'Send me a list of what you had in there, btw, if I can confirm it you're up for a reimb, obviously.'

Karrion says, 'dirty beady-eyed sneaky italians..'

Karrion ducks to the ground.

Kae giggles.

Sandra giggles.

Karrion says, 'coo.. :)'

Kae is gonna go over him tonight.

Sandra says, 'who else has questions?'

Sandra says, 'questions, comments, flamage? :)'

Sana raises her hand.

Sandra giggles.

Kae says to Karrion, 'You can dance now, Kaige and Cheyla already found it.'

Sandra points at Sana.

Sana says, 'we can use stolen coupons now right?'

Karrion says, 'coooo :)'

Cheyla says, 'no'

Kae says to Karrion, 'So send me a list and we'll see about recompensating you for his sneaky italian attitude :).'

Sandra says, 'I don't believe so.'

Karrion backs that thang up.

Kaige says, 'I don't think so. You can equip items and use the USE command on them.. but you don't get to use their chance at a string.'

Karrion does the mashed potato.

Karrion says, 'coo'

Kaige says, 'cause they can't get that back if the coupon is redeemed.'

Karrion says, 'oh, make "a stolen" part of the string?'

Karrion whistles innocently to himself.

Sandra giggles.

Karrion says, 'would be good for grudges and stuff.. considering this would be a pk only type question'

Sana says, 'ohhh would be cool to add a visible stolen tag to all looted items'

Karrion nods his agreement with Sana.

LadyAce says, 'ooh, ooh, I know. {sToLeN} in front! (NOT)'

Mercedes says, 'heh'

Sana says, 'could make sana look like a badass wearing all stolen gear'

Mercedes says, 'make you look cooler:P'

Karrion laughs.

Mercedes nods his agreement with Salome.

Chocorua shudders.

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'You forgot the alternating colors to go with that.'

Salome curtseys before Mercedes gracefully.

Karrion says, 'we steal it all from eachother and stuff so we look meaner than we are :P'

Mercedes tips his hat gallantly.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'Too lazy :).'

Sana says, 'alternating colors?'

Mercedes says, 'lol'

Sana ponders her own existence - better keep an eye on her.

Sandra says, 'don't think we want to help encourage stealing though ;)'

Sandra giggles.

Mercedes grins evilly.

Sandra says, 'stealing is bad! Bad!'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Sandra.

Kaige says, 'blinking and set so it cycles like those freaky lights at christmas'

Sandra says, 'wait, i'm the evil one.'

Sandra says, 'stealing rocks!'

Cheyla says, 'someone stole one of my toys at work last night'

Cheyla grumbles.

Kaige comforts Cheyla.

Sandra wrinkles her nose at Cheyla.

Sandra says, 'any other questions?'

Chocorua says, 'stealing is a cool thing that can be abused to easily so therefore is weighted down with more code than anyting but moving from one room to another'

Karrion gives a small piece of paper from Karrion to Kae.

Sandra says, 'no more questions?'

Karrion says, 'couple vials too, but um, that's the basic whats in there'

Sandra says, 'ok, then I think we're all done :)'

Kae says to Karrion, 'The note of dirty jokes might be a problem :).'

Sana says, 'I wanna seeeee!'

Karrion says, 'oh, oh.. thought you mneant to prove was my bag got swiped'

Karrion peers at himself myopically.

Chocorua says to Kae, 'I could help.'

Kae giggles. Chocorua snickers softly.

Kae could find some URLs....

Karrion giggles.

Sandra giggles.

Kae says to Karrion, 'Naw, we established that :).'

Salome says, 'if one of you wonderful immortals who could help me spend a coupon is available I would appreciate it if you have a minute, its written out also for your convience'

Beige1Guest says, 'Id like to hear more about Kaige's forgetting skills idea after long periods of time.'

Beige1Guest says, 'where did most people stand with that?'

Karrion says, 'ook, well then just the chalice/specs skulls'

Kae giggles.

Karrion says, 'oh, I liked tha'

Kaige says, 'we actually had it semi coded at one point, but that was....'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Chocorua says to Beige1Guest, 'I think that ones a great idea for another gameing system.'

Karrion nods his agreement with Beige1Guest.

Chocorua ducks to the ground.

Sandra giggles.

Kae says, 'I liked it, but it'd have to count real time, not ic time, yeah'

Kaige says, 'oh in a version of the skill trees code that was around when Arkenstone was active'

Chocorua says to Kaige, '8 years ago?'

Beige1Guest nods his agreement with Kae.

Kaige says to Chocorua, '7 or 8 easily.'

Chocorua tested some of it with malorn so it was a LONG time ago

Beige1Guest says, 'and the chances of it coming back in are...? Slim to none?'

Kaige picks up a MaGiC EiGhTbAlL and shakes it vigorously.

Kaige peers into her magic ball and declares, 'Without a doubt.'

Beige1Guest cheers wildly!

Kae giggles at Kaige.

Kaige says, 'bascially... unknown at this time'

Mercedes says, 'heh'

Chocorua says, 'not really ont eh current radar with current projects unfinished'

Mercedes says, 'hey, aren't you one of those cubans off the banana boat?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Mercedes pokes Sana in the ribs.

Sana looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sana throws down a gauntlet, challenging Mercedes to combat.

Spanish-Flea slaps Mercedes.

Mercedes snickers softly.

Karrion slaps Mercedes.

Karrion says, 'now I got that damn sun screen song in my head'

Karrion mutters under his breath.

Mercedes says, 'lol'

Mercedes says, 'that line is from scarface'

Cheyla says, 'ok, i'm off to find some nyquil'

Cheyla waves happily.

Kae hugs Cheyla.

Kaige hugs Cheyla.

Sandra says, 'yay nyquil'

Mercedes says, 'hah nice'

Karrion says, 'it's a kinda regaeesque type tune'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'You too?'

Chocorua says, 'if shes taking nyquil i am too'

Chocorua shudders.

Kaige says, 'that'd make 3 so far'

Kae giggles at Chocorua.

Kaige says, '4?'

Spanish-Flea says to Sandra, 'shouldnt you go see the movie now that ladyace is here?'

Chocorua doesn't need to be sick too

Sandra says, 'oh man no, benadryl is enough for me'

Sandra says to Spanish-Flea, 'Too late now.'

Karrion says, 'Get on deee boat, dee ban-naaa-naa- boat, get on de banana boat!'

Mercedes rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Sandra giggles at Karrion.

Chocorua waves happily.

Kae waves happily.

Chocorua says, 'have fun folks'

Sana raises her hand.

Karrion waves happily.

Sandra will go monday.

Kae has a merchant to bitchslap.

Mercedes chuckles politely.

Karrion says to Sana, 'haha!'

Sana says, 'what are the chances of getting a legendmud classic rock channel coded?'

Sandra giggles.

Mercedes snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'nil'

Sana says, '...'

Karrion says, 'yeah, have skynard gettin' warned up the yin yan'

Karrion ducks to the ground.

Mercedes says, 'you troublemaking toddler'

Salome says, 'the bandwidth would kill us'

Sana says, 'how about just one thats a text channel and dont even play music thru our compooters?'

Mercedes chuckles politely.

Lorenzo says to Sana, 'ellipses that end a sentence should have four dots.'

Mercedes says, 'beh i like using 3'

Karrion says, 'I use 3'

Karrion nods his agreement with Mercedes.

Sandra says to Salome, 'I can do the string for ya. But lets make it fast before my head hits the keyboard.'

Sana says to Lorenzo, '...'

Karrion says, 'and they are periods, not dots'

Karrion slaps Lorenzo.

Kaige says, 'it's probably easier and more efficient if you just use your own CDs.'

Karrion says, 'smarty pants!'

Salome smiles at Sandra.

Karrion giggles.

Lorenzo says to Karrion, 'actually, they're not periods.'

Mercedes says, 'lol toto'

Kaige says, 'thanks for coming guys... see ya next week'

Kaige waves happily.

Mercedes waves happily.

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