July 11th, 2002

Can Imm EQ be Mundaned?

Rush says, 'is imm eq eligible for mundane?'

Kaige says, 'you mean like some an immort wears?'

Rush nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'no they're all strung and not exactly in the game'

Rush nods solemnly.

Rush says, 'ahhh'

Rush likes LA's dress

Rush giggles.

Rush thanks Kaige heartily.

Rush looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rush waves happily.

Time Command Change?

Bling says, 'what do you mean by the time command thing'

Kaige says, 'basically when you type TIME, it was all running together and people were confused didn't notice there was info about RL time and system time there'

Kaige says, 'so we just put in a blank line to separate the two visually'

Bling says, 'oh.. liek the line between The almanac and Mud time'

Kaige nods her agreement with Bling.

Kaige says, 'exactly'

Kaige says, 'it'll be first two line, blank line, last three lines'

Bling says, 'that reminds of a question i always wanted to ask but forgot'

Kaige comforts Bling.

How Long is Moon Cycle?

Bling says, 'how long is a moon cycle, and how can you tell'

Ea! says, 'Moon cycle is one lunar month.'

Kaige says, 'it's the same as the real life one. 28 days.'

Bling says, 'i see weather, i see waning gibbous moon...what ever that means'

Ea! says, 'A gibbous moon is a three quarter moon.'

Bling nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'waning means it's leaving full and going towards new moon, but gibbous means it's still pretty full... crescent is the sliver'

Ea! says, 'Waning means that it's shrinking, waxing means that it's growing.'

Bling says, 'so 1 mud month'

Kaige says, 'not a mud month... but 28 mud days.. since mud months are no longer all 28 days'

Bling says, 'i missed astronomy class'

Kaige giggles.

Ea! says, 'So, next time you're wandering around outside with friends, say "Ah, what a nice waxing gibbous moon there is tonight."'

Bling says, 'and...they will smack me upside the head'

Bling nods her agreement with Ea!.

Kaige giggles.

Ea! says, 'that's true. It's new at the moment.'

Control Weather Syntax?

Bling says, 'i think the help file for control weather spell is a bit confusing on how to make the sky sunny and clear'

Bling says, 'i have to cast rain light ...that makes rain stop'

Bling says, 'just odd at that'

Ea! says, 'Wow -- they have photos of the aurora australis as seen while flying through them at http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/08jul_underfoot.htm.'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'shouldn't, right? should be able to try to force it from where ever it is, to whatever you like, right?'

Ea! says, 'You could do it as clear light as well.'

Ea! says, 'Or clear medium, etc.'

Bling says, 'hmm wish i can see the helpfile now'

Bling says, 'but then how to make the sun hot...to bake golems'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'neat pictures. reminds me of that movie with Dennis Quaid -- Frequency'

Bling says, 'clear high'

Ea! says, 'Heavy, or extreme...'

Bling says, 'so maybe clear should be sun or something'

Ea! says, 'It depends, of course a bit on the local area.'

Ea! says to Bling, 'Well, but that'd be misleading at night or near the poles.'

Bling says, 'clear sounds more like a degree than condition to me...'

Ea! says, 'Meteorogically, clear's a condition.'

Bling says, 'bah..more classes i missed'

Bling sulks in the corner.

Bling nods solemnly.

Ea! giggles.

Bling says, 'ok, i get it now, terminology thing'

Kaige says, 'conditions: clear, rainy, cloudy, stormy, etc degrees/severity: light, medium, heavy, extreme'

Kaige says to Bling, 'see.. legend's just a forced learning experience that sneaks up on you when you're not looking'

Kaige winks suggestively.

Bling says, 'so clear extreme would imply hot hot sun and stormy heavy is wind'

Bling says, 'if rainy is ...rain and storm is wind'

Ea! says, 'Well, probably. It depends a bit on the area, but, yeah...'

Kaige says, 'stormy heavy would imply lots of electricity.'

Kaige says, 'but yes, will depend on the area too'

Ea! says, 'Like, I think, Arabia storms are electrical sand storms.'

Bling says, 'yah area but in temperate generic zones'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Bling says, 'clear = sun, rainy = rain , storm = eletric/sand , cloudy is just cloud? i can't get it do much more than that'

Ea! says, 'yeah.'

Kaige says, 'clear = no clouds but yeah'

Kaige says, 'you can get it to snow some places too.. or be foggy'

Bling nods solemnly.

Bling says, 'weather is a fun way to kill off charmies'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Kaige says, 'definitely adds another layer of strategy in there'

Ea! giggles.

Ea! says, 'I'm glad. That was fun code to write.'

Ea! says, ''cause Kaige convinced me that we needed more messages than just the ones I had.'

Ea! giggles.

Kaige scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Kaige says, 'yeah, but then you made me write them'

Ea! giggles at Kaige.

Kaige thinks people with charmies are going to have to learn to be concerned with the weather -- it's why we made sure control weather was a know spell

Krynn says to Kaige, 'no joke. my charmies fall apart on me all the time now'

Kaige comforts Krynn.

Krynn shrugs helplessly.

Krynn says, 'i run all of 4 mobs repeatedly, it's not that big of a deal'

Krynn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Disbanding and Clan Accounts?

Krynn says, 'when a clan disbands, would it be possible to evenly distribute the clan account to its member's bank accounts. It would keep money from just falling off the face of the planet.'

Krynn scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Krynn watched 2 mil go poof when he disbanded the mercs.

Kaige says to Krynn, 'but then there's no incentive for people to make it work long term'

Bling says, 'make what work long term? pk?'

Krynn shakes his head.

Kaige says, 'also not very fair for the few who contributed and the many who leached'

Krynn says, 'maybe, but that's more balanced now with the tithe's (which i don't believe in btw)'

Kaige says to Bling, 'sorry.. he put in an idea to evenly distribute a clan's money between the members if it's disbanded'

Kaige says to Krynn, 'yeah, true'

Bling says, 'who gets the money when clan disband? gm?'

Krynn says, 'nobody'

Kaige shakes her head.

Kaige says, 'poof.'

Krynn says, 'it goes bye bye'

Bling says, 'oh, so what then, gm make big withdrawal first?'

Krynn says, 'can't withdraw from clan accounts, no embezling'

Kaige says, 'clan bank accounts are deposit only except for housing costs'

Ea! says, 'We have a project on the list that Rufus worked on a while back to rebalance the mud economy....'

Bling says, 'ouch, did you lose much when merc disband?'

Krynn says, '2+ mil'

Krynn says, 'basically another 200 days of rent on the vineyard =P'

Economy Discussion

Ea! says, 'The basic problem with the mud economy is that money is in an ever increasing supply -- people can get new money that no one has ever had before, but no money comes out of the system.'

Bling says, 'balance...all the oldbies will still have all the cash and coupons'

Krynn nods his agreement with Ea!.

Ea! says, 'Which means that there's ridiculous inflation... to the point that money is worthless..'

Ea! says, 'Rufus's system made it so that when mobs (for example) repopped, the amount of money they had was based on the amount of money lost (spent in shops, junked, etc.) in the area since the last repop.'

Bling looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! says, 'Cost of goods in stores went up automatically as well...'

Ea! says, 'But it didn't work for a variety of complex reasons.'

Krynn says, 'that'd be really nice'

Krynn grumbles.

Kaige says, 'one of which it was only tested in one area.. that'd be something to see what happened on April 1st.'

Bling says, 'so what, we get a crash every 2 day that will recycle the economy ? or worse'

Kaige says, 'put it in every where'

Ea! says, 'I think that too much money left the area, not enough was spent, etc.'

Bling says, 'no crash and the economy gets more and more expensive to price out newbies?'

Ea! says, 'I'm pretty sure the state of the economy stayed over reboot.'

Kaige smiles at Bart.

Krynn says, 'yeah, but nobody buys things from stores, they only sell there. the only things i've ever bought were recall vials in probably the last 6 months'

Bart smiles happily.

Haley hugs Bart.

Krynn says, 'so i could see it inflating the prices on real newbies and dragbies pretty bad'

Krynn says, 'fyi, dragbie = a level 50 that gets lost in tara'

Kaige says, 'stag monster'

Krynn nods his agreement with Kaige.

Krynn just likes his term better.

Krynn says, 'newbies, lowbies, & dragbies, oh my'

Ea! says, 'I think the amount of money that newbies would get when they started would need to be based on the economy...'

[Chat] StagMonster: Can someone help me get from the Stag to Sherwood?

Bling laughs with amusement.

Ea! says, 'But people who are level 50 and get lost in tara get no sympathy from me.'

Haley smirks at Kaige.

Kaige nods her agreement with Ea!.

Haley nods her agreement with Ea!.

Kaige says, 'on both accounts'

Bling says, 'klein would be funky if that economy goes in'

Ea! says, 'Well, selling stuff for money wouldn't work out so well, since the buying prices would plumet to nothing.'

Bling says, 'OR, you buy at the low spot and resell at a different town with diff economy'

Ea! nods his agreement with Bling.

Bart reads a small piece of paper from Kaige.

Bling says, 'which if i had a create mage with fly...would REALLY crank out cash'

Krynn says, 'there'd be pretty decent money to be made as a trader then'

Ea! says, 'Yep. That'd be something that we'd *love* to see.'

Kaige says, 'you'd have to go find places people hadn't been to to sell your stuff to get a better price.. would benefit the people who explored and knew the mud'

Ea! says, 'But, unfortunatly, the economics of all of this are *very* hard.'

Bling says, 'so...3c gets even richer than before'

Ea! says, 'We need an econ grad student who knows how to code.'

Ea! giggles.

Bling says, 'since it is still a matter of moving eq'

Herbert is broke.

Bart grins evilly at Herbert.. wonder what he's thinking...

Herbert is also 3c.

Krynn says to Bling, 'no, don't be so baised. anybody with strength and enough sense to get flight vials could turn serious money'

Kaige says, 'now if we could jsut come up with a simple player emulator and log in about 100 of them.. we'd be set in so many ways'

Kaige throws her head back and cackles with insane glee!

Bling nods solemnly.

Bling says, 'true....'

Kaige says, 'recall helps too'

Krynn nods his agreement with Kaige.

Bling says, 'that makes weak people ...poor still'

Bling says, 'like snipers and surgeons'

Kaige says, 'if you know the spell, well,... it helps'

Herbert says, 'give a buttload of cash to some wussy mob, kill that ONE mob, get all the cash from it, then recall'

Bling sulks in the corner.

Herbert says, 'thats a good trick'

Kaige says, 'if you have to buy recalls, not much help there'

Krynn says, 'oh well, this is a dead end. i don't see a new economy popping in anytime within the next 3+ years =P'

Ea! says to Krynn, 'Me, either.'

Herbert says, 'I still like wasting the rats in cheapside for cash'

Herbert says, 'when im little'

Krynn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Krynn peers at himself myopically.

Ea! says, 'If it had just been a tricky coding thing, Rufus would have finished it up back then. But it was both a tricky coding thing and a tricky econ thing.'

Kaige says, 'just watch out for the water rats, huh?'

Kaige says, 'lots of econ is easy, until you put players into it'

Kaige wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Ea! giggles at Kaige.

Krynn says, 'rats for cash. god that's funny. i play my newbies until level 10, get bored, archive them, go back to playing krynn =P'

Bling nods solemnly.

Bling says, 'any econ system can be abused like any other system'

Kaige says, 'seriously.. most simulation stuff like that is really pretty easy, once you know all the variables.. it's the unexpected that throws it's ALL out of whack'

Kaige says, 'players = lots of unpredicability'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Bling says, 'open an imm casino and rig the games'

Bling says, 'like vegas'

Krynn shelved his 40's Vegas area proposal.

Herbert drools contentedly.

Kaige says to Krynn, 'but dicerolls just got easier to use in acts.'

The 100 sided die spins from Bling's hand, landing with the 56 on top.

Akira smirks.

The 100 sided die spins from Bling's hand, landing with the 97 on top.

Bling says, '97k'

The 100 sided die spins from Bling's hand, landing with the 48 on top.

Bling says, '48k'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Bling looks up into the sky and ponders.

Paris Expansion?

Bling says to Bart, 'put a casino in your new area'

Kaige comforts Jenna.

Bling says, 'to take back some player cash'

Jenna says to Bling, 'the area's basically finished'

Bart snickers at Bling nastily.

Sigrid wouldn't mind a gigolo or two.

Bling says, 'oh finished?'

Jenna says to Bling, 'we hopefully get to play in it soon'

Bling says, 'french like to gamble too, there is the rivera'

Bart says, 'finished it 2 or so weeks ago, now in review so I'm madly fixing and adding the suggestions I'm getting from the builders :)'

Bling says, 'oh jolly good'

Bart smiles happily.

YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!

Bart throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Bart blushes bright red.

Akira cheers wildly!

Bling says, 'when do players get it so we can abuse all the new bugs'

Bling winks suggestively at Bart.

Bart says to Bling, 'heheheheheheheh'

Akira says, '...'

Bling says, 'i will find a way to solo phantom yet...bug or no bug'

Akira chuckles politely.

Bart says, 'umm, the Phantom has no bug that I know of?'

Bling nods solemnly.

Akira smirks.

Bling says, 'i know...we need a big old bug to kill it'

Bart says, 'ahh'

Jenna snorts derisively.

Bart says, 'I've got a few "bugs" that size'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Bart's head.

Jenna says to Bart, 'it's good omens that they're making a film out of'

Kaige giggles at Bart.

Akira says, 'we can use cheyla, she's bugged....'

Jenna says to Bart, 'i remember now'

Bling says, 'something that doesn't cost any hp or mana ..and give you 1million xp and a coupon afterwards'

Bart nods his agreement with Jenna.

Akira smirks.

Bart looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! gives a bug to Bart.

Ea! says, 'There you go.'

Akira smirks.

Ea! says, 'Specially made for the Phantom.'

Bart says, 'the million xp is doable, not the no cost part'

Ea! says, 'It likes opera.'

Bling chuckles politely.

Bling says, 'wow...what would a million xp mob be like...'

Akira looks up into the sky and ponders.

Bart says, 'BIG'

Krynn says, 'i can answer that'

Kaige says, 'Sandra.'

Jenna giggles at Kaige.

Bart rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Bling snickers softly.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Krynn got 1 million xp for killing a mob.

Bling raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Bling says, 'what mob is worth a million'

Problems with Roland and Quest?

Sigrid says, 'there's this Roland guy who seems to have gotten into his mind I want to become a ritter. I followed the nasty one of course and all were fine. But a few days later I accidentally said a sentence with 'no' in it while he was in the roo'

Sigrid says, 'so now he thinks I regretted following him'

Sigrid says, 'So I obviously had to slice him AND roland'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'chalk it up to his previous bad manners'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Sigrid says, 'but they still both think i'm a bugger ritter wannabie'

Kaige says, 'sounds like a flag didn't get removed is all...'

LadyAce says, 'it's true that sometimes if they ask you stuff, and you don't respond, they'll take a later thing as an answer'

Sigrid says, 'I followed him though'

LadyAce says, 'I'll set him to be more careful and only pay attention to things directed to him in speech'

Sigrid says, 'so I got the lacks honor to become a ritter blah blah tag'

Sigrid says, 'but he still accepted my no days later'

Bart comforts Sigrid.

Sigrid says, 'and now I lost the tag and they think I wanna be one of them'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Akira chuckles politely.

Sigrid says, 'even after killing them all'

Sigrid glares at nothing in particular.

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'you have better honor, right?'

Sigrid says to Kaige, 'of course, I'm no scumsling'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'you don't have the mewling little bit it takes to be one of them!'

Sigrid says, 'nay much more'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'yah. it's a flag issue that can be looked at.. be sure to bug it as a reminder'

Kaige smiles at Sigrid.

Sigrid says, 'ok. another thing'

Herbert shrugs helplessly.

Ea! sighs loudly.

Sigrid says, 'you can keep getting coins of the nasty by following him again'

Kaige comforts Ea!.

Sigrid says, '50 coins per pop of him'

Sigrid says, 'no gold mine but good enough for feeding yourself'

Bling looks greedy.

Kaige giggles.

Sigrid says, 'if you dont like eating his flesh that is'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'I'd say also bug it'

Wyvern reports: 418/421 hp 571/696 mana 423/423 mv.

Wyvern grumbles.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Sigrid.

Sigrid nods solemnly.

Sigrid says, 'work!'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Heal Bots?

Bling says, 'I heard surgeon-bots are illegal..but what do you consider a surgeon bot'

Kaige says, 'someone with triggers set up to heal someone who isn't at the keyboard'

LadyAce says, 'if you heal when you're not at your keyboard to type in the command to heal them'

Wyvern says, 'can u make triggers but be watching?'

Bling says, 'hmm i use triggers for runs, and sometimes i maybe oow...'

Wyvern says, 'like a trig that will automatically heal them up to 30hp difference of them being full based on them reporting..?'

Bling says, 'but i am usually at the desk...is wondering how far to go on that'

LadyAce says, 'I think our general approach is to say that no, you shouldn't be oow when your char is healing'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'if you're there and watching, and the triggers are just keeping you from doing a lot of typing, there's not much we can say about that.'

LadyAce says, 'our general idea is that we don't want to have a mudful of people who aren't really there :)'

Sigrid says, 'why is surgeon botting illegal? doesn't pk timer take care of all illegal healing under pkok?'

Krynn shakes his head.

Krynn says to Sigrid, 'i had this explained to me, try this anology'

Krynn says to Sigrid, 'you have 4 ungrouped afk botting surgeons following you while you xp.'

Krynn says to Sigrid, 'mobs would have to be 4x harder for the same xp to make it viable'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Krynn.

Kaige says, 'because of what she just said. There was no reason to remove the rule either. It also gives an unfair advantage if say someone like Marauder were to set up healing triggers for ONLY his friends in the mobkill scene as well.'

Kaige says, 'pk is NOT the only consideration for it'

Ea! says, 'My personal opinion on bots in general is that they screw up the balance of the game. Healing bots are the worst of the lot, but I think the other ones do as well.'

XP Difficulty & Updates & Feedback

Craven says, 'well if xp wasn't so hard to aquire...'

Craven shrugs helplessly.

Jenna snorts derisively.

Craven says, 'not all of us enjoy leveling exclusively in sl or pd'

Jenna says, 'xp isn't hard to acquire'

Jenna says, 'even outside the big run areas'

Wyvern says, 'yeah talk to Israfel about that'

Wyvern throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Craven says, 'to this day I know of xp bugs'

Wyvern says, 'Israfel never does runs'

Craven says, 'but to just go out and get xp...'

Sigrid says, 'israfel is a crazy create mage'

Craven says, 'there are very very very few good xp mobs'

Wyvern says, 'mice are good xp'

Jenna says, 'israfel is only 2c'

Craven says, 'almost exclusively in med'

Bling says, 'there is a BIG gap between experienced player xping and newer players with less friends xping'

Jenna blinks.

Craven says, 'but I don't care about xp anyway, so I don't want to argue :)'

Wyvern says, 'agree'd Bling'

Jenna says, 'i got my 100 million over all the areas and through quests'

Craven laughs with amusement.

Sigrid says, 'learning how to xp right is half the fun'

Craven says, 'go get xp at level 50 in agrabah'

Wyvern says, 'like...imo Dun mobs need more XP for the gangbang alertness call on guards thing they do :D'

Craven says, 'then compare it to klien'

Herbert says, 'quests, assassin, captain of the guard'

Herbert shrugs helplessly.

Craven says, 'its not just the number'

Wyvern says, 'quests: those are one time only they dont count'

Wyvern says, 'assassin and capt of guard is only 2'

Craven says, 'think of it as the average xp per hour'

Jenna says, 'why not?'

Jenna says, 'you get xp from them'

Akira taunts Ea! mercilessly.

Craven says, 'if I can average 200k in klien an hour, or 100k an hour in agrabah...why would I possibly pick agrabah?'

Wyvern says, 'okay then calculate in the klein xp quests :D'

Kaige says to Wyvern, 'if you say so'

Herbert says, 'the evil magician too then'

Sigrid says, '200k in klein is LOW'

Wyvern says, 'k thats 3 :D'

Craven says, 'I know'

Herbert says, 'the stuff in dead agrabah'

Kaige says, 'if you say so'

Craven says, 'I was just making an example'

Kaige giggles.

Wyvern says to Kaige, 'im counting what Herbert is mentioning.'

Akira says, 'only 200k an hour in klien!? haha'

Kaige says to Craven, 'I'm not arguing.'

Craven says, 'also you need to take into consideration the difficulty of a mob'

LadyAce says to Craven, 'is this your question? :) Or shall we go on to it?'

Craven says, 'jim southland is INCREDIBLY hard!'

Craven says, 'who would ever kill him for xp....'

Jenna says, 'i do. and the vampy'

Herbert says, 'kill him for his eq, xp is a bonus'

Craven says, 'he's worth like 40k'

Wyvern says, 'but then again, i wouldn't want a mud where the xp is proportianiate to how hard eactly exactly exactly EVERY mob.'

Sigrid nods solemnly.

Craven says, 'just seems like more and more mobs are made to fit the template of a create mage then the normal joe shmoe'

Herbert slaps Craven.

Akira raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Craven says, 'builders are always trying to outdo each other'

Herbert says, 'how many mobs have had charmie slay code and DI this year?'

Herbert says, 'oh about ALL of them?'

Craven says, 'unfortunately the coders aren't trying to outdo each other in making us more powerful :)'

Akira jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Herbert!

Ea! says to Craven, 'Mwa-hahaha.'

Jenna snorts derisively.

Craven says to Herbert, 'you misunderstand me'

Craven says to Herbert, 'remember, I have at least one of every type of character, any change to any class affects me :)'

Jenna says, 'and the builders are trying to kill us all'

Ea! says to Craven, 'We try to out do each other in making eviller and eviller ways for builders to outdo each other on their mobs.'

Kaige is mostly a builder's coder, so...

Herbert says, 'so do I and I do equally as well with all of them'

Craven shakes his head.

Herbert says, 'i have a class for every task and they all do them well'

Craven says, 'I could go make a million xp easy an hour on average with be'lal'

Craven says, 'craven could NEVER do that'

Krynn says to Jenna, 'would you rather not ever have a chance of dying and live in perfect safety at all times?'

Jenna says to Krynn, 'i'm not complaining!'

Jenna says, 'i'm simply stating the way it is'

Jenna grins evilly at Bart.. wonder what she's thinking...

Sigrid says, 'would it be awfully much against your principles to make more good to kill mobs for lower levels so that they dont *have* to leech on runs?'

Wyvern says, 'that would be awesome'

Craven says, 'but, I really don't care about xp. I'm just saying, people want surgeons with triggers because unless your create or go to sl constantly...solo xp really isn't an option'

Craven says, 'sl=pd'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'I have a whole area that's planned just for mid level characters'

Wyvern says, 'crusades is awesome for the lowbie stuff :D'

Wyvern cackles gleefully at Kaige - whatever he's going to do to her, glad it's not you!

Jenna is completely boggled.

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'it'll get harder if some high level tries to drag people though it tho'

Craven says to Kaige, 'not to cause offense, but whens the last time you leveled a character through the mid levels?'

Sigrid says to Kaige, 'nice'

Wyvern says, 'crusades gives salvation to those poor low lvl mages.'

Jenna says, 'i mostly level my own characters... all the way'

Sigrid says, 'bad I be level 50'

Akira says, 'yeah and crusades is always packed full of PCs'

Jenna says, 'there's plenty of mid level stuff around'

Kaige says to Craven, 'currently doing it with two of them thank you very much.'

Craven shrugs helplessly.

Wyvern says to Akira, 'not in my experience leveling 2 chars in the past month'

Wyvern says, 'crusades was great..i'd almost say more than sufficient...but i wont'

Craven says, 'I can't believe that most builders even play...its really hard to believe when you walk in an area designed for a level 20 that a level 30 thinks is too hard...'

Wyvern says, 'cuz more is better'

Wyvern throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Kaige says, 'feedback to the builders REALLy improves that too'

Herbert says, 'Savannah and Seoni apes are still awesome midlevel areas too'

Bling nods solemnly.

Jenna says, 'not to mention Paris'

Herbert nods his agreement with Jenna.

Kaige says, 'but if people take the stance that they'll wait for someone else to do it.. of course the builder rarely hears about it.'

Bart says, 'when you say "too hard for 30" do you mean the level 30 can't go in, kill everything, and walk on with room to spare?'

Craven says, 'last time I fought the apes, their xp had been lowered, they hit incredibly too hard and too often, and dodged constantly'

Craven says, 'alright, heres how I see a level 30'

Craven says, 'a level 30 needs what, 500, 600k to levle?'

Kaige says to Craven, 'and I bet they were changed again too since then. since you did take the time to give feed back when I badgered you about it that day'

Herbert says, 'so use a special or two man, headbutt them, THEN backstab them'

Craven says, 'seems to me that they should be able to get at least 100k per resting period. meaning they would have to rest to full 5-6 times, or about 2-3 hours solo'

Craven says to Kaige, 'really...'

Kaige says to Craven, 'really.'

Craven says to Kaige, 'so what level are the apes set up for now?'

Craven says to Kaige, 'and, for the record then, you are an exception'

Kaige has created an ape!

Kaige says to Craven, 'I know.'

Wyvern whaps an ape across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Kaige says, 'same as they have been... low 30s'

Craven says, 'last time I fought apes my sniper with -90 ac lost like 150 in a fight....'

Craven says, 'I'll have to try them sometime'

Bart writes fight acts while people talk about mobs being hard...

LadyAce says, 'let's move on to Sigrid's question. I think Kaige has mentioned what we're doing about midlevel mobs.'

LadyAce giggles at Bart.

Jenna goes EEK! at Bart in distress - isn't Bart an awful person for teasing?

Jenna says to Bart, 'more?!'

Bart nods his agreement with Jenna.

Craven says to Bart, 'last time I fought in paris it was way too hard too :)'

Bart rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Craven says to Bart, 'but I'll go test it this very second'

Bart says, 'well, I got that feedback and took a look through with a few alts of mine'

Jenna snorts derisively.

Jenna says, 'that's good. bag an area and then run away'

% XP to Level at 50?

Sigrid says, 'why is %xptolevel so wierd after lvl 50?'

Kaige says, 'because we only have 50 coded levels'

Kaige giggles.

Sigrid says, 'jump around from 72 to 128 in one kill'

Sigrid says, 'what about making it % to next redeem or something?'

Sigrid says, 'of course it stupid to take good coding time from useful projects'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'is it + or - 72 to 128?'

Sigrid says, '72% to level, then I gain some xp and it jumps to 128% to level'

Ea! says, 'I'm not sure. We'd have to hard code something for it...'

Sigrid says, 'oh or maybe its minus.. I dont think I ahve my prompt set up to tell me'

Jenna giggles.

Kaige says, 'if it is negative that's right... you're getting further from what you needed for that level'

Sigrid says, 'yes but it's jumped back and forth more than once and it never gets down to 0'

Krynn says, 'i just turned mine off when it started to freak out like that'

Kaige says, 'well 0 will be where you're at teh xp needed for level 50 I think'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'not sure tho. off hand without going to see'

Sigrid says, 'ok, maybe I should just look into my prompt coding and make something different for my level 50s'

Herbert says, 'very quiet now'

Herbert peers around the room intently.

Sigrid says, 'next!'

XP Scale/Classes?

Bling says, 'when the new xp system was designed, how many hours did you expect it would take to level to 50'

Kaige says, 'more than it had been.. but it wasn't measured so much in hours, but rather mobs killed'

Bling says, 'it is just that the mud is very "Class" driven now'

Bling says, 'and xp is a major part of this'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Sigrid says, 'oh?'

Kaige says to Bling, 'always has been in a way...'

Bling nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'as long as people can classify their tactics and can gain ALL (or at least a good measure of) the good ones... people will follow suit and divide themselves up that way'

Finding Quests?

Bling says, 'the only other complaint I have...is the same one about quests are too hard to find'

LadyAce says, 'is there a particular area you're thinking of?'

Sigrid nods solemnly.

Bling says, 'like the new quests for summer odysseu'

Herbert says, 'the dun quests are bloody mental'

LadyAce says, 'this should be a helpfile (what I'm about to say)'

Herbert says, 'thats my contribution'

Bling says, 'the room descriptions didn't change so I suppose clues are from mobs'

Sigrid says, 'and some are perfectly illogical and mobs dont understand squat of what you ask them'

Kaige says to Sigrid, 'feel free to point that kind out to us'

LadyAce says, 'look for new behavior from mobs, or things that you kept suspecting might be part of a quest'

Sigrid says to Kaige, 'thanks'

Bling says, 'that is just it...look for new behaviors...'

LadyAce says to Sigrid, 'those are the kind we can't really fix without your help...cuz clearly they make sense to us, or we wouldn't've written them that way.'

Sigrid says, 'and its a bugger to use bad spelling when you're doing quests'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Herbert says, 'what about when you get that far follow your leads and have zero place to go because you get really bored of being looked at questioningly?'

Bling says, 'like sit in the room and wait for mob to do something random'

Kaige says to Bling, 'and if you run up against something you think might be a quest, but you can't seem to figure out where it's going... tell us that too'

Herbert says, 'hehehe'

Sigrid says to LadyAce, 'yes, I know.'

Bling nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'or look at old behaviours and see if they have new responses when asked about it'

Bling says, 'i was following mobs around for hours lookign for quests'

LadyAce says, 'if you get stuck on something, that too might be a lack of clarity in the quest that we'd appreciate having pointed out'

Herbert says, 'ok can you confirm or deny an Ahrianrhod quest then? or is all the crap that leads to just crap?'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'maybe you're looking too hard.'

Kaige says, 'cause what's painfully obvious to the builder from having set everything up from their point of view and knowlege of the area.. might not be'

Herbert says, 'because i went around everyone in the Dun yesterday asking the everything about everything'

Sigrid says, 'on the other hand you should have to think when doing a quest. it doesn't all have to be too obvious'

LadyAce says, 'look at more obvious things'

Bling says, 'well the entire quest shouldn't be easy but the first step or clue to start should be easier to find'

Kaige says to Herbert, 'you'd have to be more umm... precise about "the crap" for me to know which you're tlaking about'

Herbert says, 'but i did! i hugged her and comforted her all to no avail'

Herbert says, 'ok i just didnt want to give too much away'

Bling nods her agreement with Herbert.

Sigrid says, 'isn't it obvious, rhys is always hiding in her chamber'

Sigrid snarls angrily.

Herbert says, 'but i asked her about sadness, she sniffled and stuff so i thought yknow poor girl lets see if i can help'

Herbert says, 'so i went arond asking EVERYONE about it'

Herbert says, 'and eventually Gawain said her dad did it to her'

Herbert says, 'so i got grumpy and thought that sick bastard!'

Kaige says, 'oh that! soryr... know I know which one you mean... That was Fionn being vague and "atmospheric" as far as I can tell... I haven't had any ideas that would work really well with it.'

Herbert says, 'and chased him around asking him everything..'

Herbert says, 'OH!'

Kaige giggles at Sigrid.

Herbert says, 'so it IS just random acts of randomness'

Herbert sighs loudly.

Krynn says, 'coulda been worse, could had some vorpal squirrels pop out of nowhere and maul you for asking'

Bling says, 'see, it is hard to tell the difference between atmosphere and quest'

Kaige says, 'yeah that one is.. but if you have any ideas on what Fionn could have been thinking lemme know'

Kaige giggles.

Herbert says, 'it sounded like Cian was being a sleaze ninja but didnt talk about it so i put him down for it..'

Kaige says, 'yeah.. that's the impression *I* always got too.. and I really didn't want to go down that route'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'unless he just mentally traumatized her because she is the black sheep of the family'

Kaige says to Bling, 'that's why it's important to let us know when you get frustrated by something you think might be a quest but doesn't seem to be leading anywhere'

Herbert says, 'and the only reason gawain understands is because he is too..'

Herbert nods his agreement with Bling.

Kaige says, 'I know I've turned about 5 of those types of things INTO quests because someone thought there was something there to follow and mentioned it in the feedback channels'

Herbert says to Bling, 'i spent the good part of 2 hours exploring options for that quest that didnt exist hehe'

Craven grins evilly at Huginn.. wonder what he's thinking...

Herbert says, 'well i'll write some notes up for ya Kaige :)'

Huginn waves hello to the world!

Ea! waves hello to the world!

Bling smiles at Huginn.

Kaige hugs Huginn.

Sigrid says, 'bugger it for having to drag all that paper around'

Bling says, 'so...with all the complaints said....any more clues on the new medival quests?'

Bling winks suggestively.

Sigrid says, 'what new quests?'

Herbert says, 'theres new med quests?'

Herbert snickers softly.

Bling points at the welcome board.

Bling says, 'the old summer thing for lima'

YieXa looks up into the sky and ponders.

Herbert says, 'it says Peru man'

Sigrid looks secretive.

Herbert winks suggestively.

YieXa says, 'is that the one where we find a room with names in caps and repeated jump into it?'

Bling says, 'peru lima..south america'

Kaige says, 'That's one of those that people insisted had to be a quest, but wasn't and now is.'

Bling nods her agreement with Herbert.

Herbert grins evilly at Kaige.. wonder what he's thinking...

Herbert says, 'good work'

Kaige says, 'that one should be pretty easy to literally trip over.'

LadyAce giggles at Kaige.

Sigrid grins evilly.

Sigrid says, 'aye'

Bling says, 'i did that before...didn't like the ending'

Kaige says, 'it's not around all the time, but it resets regularly'

Joint Banking/Housing?

Herbert says, 'that whole discussion board post I made I meant simply as a transfer command thing not joint housing so much, i mean sure the transfer thing was to make housing easier on me'

Herbert says, 'but would be useful for other things too id imagine, im not asking for housing to be recoded for 2 owners'

Herbert says, 'and the admin nightmare of crossplay i thought would be fairly easy to cover with only transfer to people on your befriend list'

Sigrid nods her agreement with Herbert.

Sigrid says, 'good idea'

Sigrid likes it.

Herbert says, 'because you would be multiplaying and destructive crossplaying just to TRY do it if it worked that way'

LadyAce says, 'I think Ea summarized why we wouldn't do it -- we want to require people to be in the same room, and interact'

Herbert says, 'in which case its not worth a few coin'

Herbert says, 'yeah but what about cases where you CANT be in the same room?'

LadyAce says, 'even if we could overcome the admin issue, the real issue is interaction'

LadyAce says, 'hire an intermediary'

Herbert says, 'like my IC wife lives in a completely different time zone'

Kaige says, 'yeah, the main reason we've never done something like that is it's always been too easy to facilitate that admin nightmare too.'

Herbert says, 'and im gonna trust a few 100k to someone to give to her? i doubt it'

LadyAce says, 'a trusted emissary who will take your gold from one person to another.'

Herbert laughs with amusement.

LadyAce says, 'make it a clanmate, your GM, an RP partner.'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Sigrid says, 'would it be possible to have the bank transfer money from one account to another for a smaller fee than withdrawing. They DO keep the money afterall. And say require both account owners to be in the room'

Herbert says, 'you dont have my reputation..'

Huginn says to Herbert, 'you can trust me!'

LadyAce says, 'give them only 25k at a time.'

Bling says, 'bring the OLD OLD auction'

Kaige says to Bling, 'not'

Bling grovels before Kaige.

YieXa bows deeply.

Herbert says, 'gah its all just a pain, i money run and have to deposit money in my account then find a way to get it to Lachies account'

Herbert says, 'so joint housing IS the better idea then have it take it straight out of my account'

Sigrid nods her agreement with Herbert.

Herbert shrugs helplessly.

Bling says, 'too bad you can make mini-clans'

Bling says, 'can't'

Kaige says, 'you can. 5 people is pretty mini'

Herbert says, 'it just seems like im definitely not the only one who wants to do it'

Bling says to Herbert, 'so you need to have 3 kids so you and lachie can have a family clan'

Herbert says, 'ive had LOTS of people that havent appended say its a great idea'

Herbert says to Bling, 'sounds just about like it, except i loathe children'

Herbert snickers softly.

Bling says, '3 concubines then'

Sigrid grins evilly.

Herbert winks suggestively.

LadyAce says, 'I think joint housing has potential but is hard. Transfers which don't require people to be in the same room is sort of a no-starter...'

Herbert says, 'so how hard is hard'

Herbert says, 'as i appended today'

Kaige says, 'beyond my abilities'

LadyAce says, 'hard enough to earn the response Rufus gave. If it's hard for him, it's damn hard.'

Herbert says, 'why not just have a thing where one person technically owns it but that person can nominate another person who has to agree to it to pay half'

Sigrid says, 'the problem would be solved with the money chest I seem to think I've heard rumors of being planned. Drop your earnings in the chest and your housemate can deposit them later'

Herbert says, 'surely thats not THAT hard'

Herbert ducks to the ground.

Herbert says to Sigrid, 'that would do it too, some kind of PRIVATE bank'

Herbert grins evilly at Straussy.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sigrid nods her agreement with Herbert.

Sigrid says, 'and dont have to bother with those greedy little fat men'

Bling says, 'what happens if you drop gold in your clan hall then, it poofs at restarts or crash?'

LadyAce says, 'gold doesn't have ownership'

LadyAce says, 'so poof it will'

LadyAce says, 'and anyone who walks in could take it'

LadyAce says, 'hm, but I wonder about dollars...does currency follow ownership?'

Herbert says, 'so make a chest that saves the cash as you put it in?'

Bling says, 'what if you put it in containers like sigrid said...like a belt pouch or something that is owned'

Bling points at a belt-pouch.

Alyxia says, 'i'm wondering, can't that work like a clan house? like a private house, but being able to add peoples names in it, so that you can use tithe or something'

Herbert says, 'if i could get a gold storage chest in lachies house that would just have to do'

LadyAce says, 'If it's not owned, it's not going to be there after a reboot'

Herbert says, 'how much coin can you put in a standard chest at the moment?'

Ea! says, 'cureency isn't owned.'

Kaige says, 'you can't currently PUT gold into containers... you can dollars, but not gold.'

Herbert says, 'lame!'

Herbert snickers softly.

Bling says, 'so have to convert all your gold into dollars'

Kaige says to Herbert, 'I agree and have been trying to get it for about oh.. 9 years now?'

Ea! sighs at himself. What a sorry sight.

Herbert says to Kaige, 'ouch'

Bling grins evilly.

Herbert says to Kaige, 'so theres no way to make a gold containing device as a housing feature easily either then?'

Kaige says, 'not until gold can be put into containers and be marked with ownership, no'

Herbert winces.

Straussy bounces around.

Alyxia says, 'isn't it possible to make a house be shared in sort of the same way a clan house is? so you wouldn't really need a device?'

Straussy says, 'gold'

Kaige says, 'besides, if we give you those, you guys will NEVER come out to mix with the other people'

Sigrid says, 'hm another idea then, what about making some kind of max amount you can pay when withdrawing. as in max 20k that would encourage more big money transfers between house mates'

Herbert says, 'oooh i have another question once we're done with this'

LadyAce says, 'the way clanhalls are shared is by a clan account'

LadyAce says, 'we don't have a way for people to have a clan account without being in a clan'

Ea! says, 'Gold won't be able to be put in containers until we clean up all the currency code...'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'I tried it once, it was ugly.'

Herbert comforts Ea!.

Herbert says to Ea!, 'at least ya tried, hell I give ya credit for that'

Straussy says to Ea!, 'i'd help ya... you do use brooms, right?'

Bling says, 'can you sell clanhalls?'

Kaige says, 'sure'

Herbert bounces around.

Kaige says, 'they're like any other house, except for their owner points to a clan instead of a single player.'

Bling looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'and a clan is really nothing more than a separate file.'

Holding Boats?

Herbert says, 'ok why in the name of god can you hold a boat? other than being annoying when you die what purpose does it serve?'

Herbert says, 'surely a small rowing boat would be far too big to hold AND wield a weapon'

Bling says, 'so people can't steal your boat'

Kaige says to Herbert, 'mostly because of the inventory concept'

Kaige says, 'and umm.. I have seen people hold SMALL boats... but mostly it's cosmetic'

Sigrid likes the fact that you can drag a viking dragon ship aboard the st. anne too, insteadn of leaving it next to it

Bling nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'couldnt there be a lil tag on yer boat to say You cannot possibly hold a small canoe in your hands.'

Herbert says, 'or something nice like that..'

Herbert grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'it's more likely to be fixed with increasing the size of the object'

LadyAce says, 'same end result, really'

Kaige says, 'but small canoes are much easier to tie to the top of your van or carry to your campsite if you hold them in your hands over your head'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Herbert says, 'but with increased size would you need to increase weight?'

LadyAce says, 'if you see any too-tiny boats, you should let us know'

Kaige shakes her head.

Herbert says, 'or just keep it large size low weight?'

LadyAce says, 'no, size and weight are independent'

Kaige says, 'separate numbers'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'i dunno just another idea we came up with while sitting around'

Kaige says, 'okie I'm getting pulled afk for 15 minutes. I will be back tho'

Herbert says, 'cos its horribly annoying to have to remove it everytime'

Herbert says, 'and theres no good reason to wield it or anything hehehe'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Herbert says, 'sure make me a 10str dam 10 100 rent canoe and I will do it.. till then its a pain'

Sigrid says to Herbert, 'dont use wear all, make and alias to wear all your stuff if you dont like the trouble'

Herbert says, 'just a random thought'

Herbert says to Sigrid, '*wince*'

+HP Rent Too Much?

Alyxia says, 'Why are the +hp rings so renty? I find it very imbalanced'

Alyxia says, 'they're no more useful than the general +5 stat rings'

Alyxia says, 'and yet they're about 2k more rent'

LadyAce says, 'I think that the spec for them was redone to take that into account'

Alyxia says, 'huh?'

LadyAce says, 'if you find any that are really expensive, bug them. It's possible that they're only renty for being easy to get, however. Some items aren't at the preset minimum.'

LadyAce translates.

Alyxia says, 'ohh'

Alyxia says, 'well, they're not easy to get'

Huginn says, 'one of them is'

LadyAce says, 'we recognized that the hp scale vs +stat scale was funky, and redid the way rent is calc'd a while back. Let us know if it's funky in places'

Alyxia says, 'I mean, it varies between the three mobs'

Sigrid says, 'It'd be nice with more renty stuff. People should have to choose what they want. Not just get it all.'

Alyxia says, 'cos there's one with each alignment'

Alyxia says, 'i'm just saying, to rent one you need about 4 levels, just for 50hps, and i find that very expensive'

Sigrid says, 'on the other hand if you *have* 100 con and want even more hp isn't it fair enough to pay for it rent wise?'

Alyxia says, 'i mean, the cheetah leggings which do add some hps are easier, and they're less rent too, so compared to the other +hp items and such, it's very renty'

Sigrid says, 'they are minus mana too'

Alyxia says, 'Well, if you have 100 con, it doesn't make you say that much better anyway, that it requires that much balance to give up 4 levels of rent'

LadyAce says, 'well...I already said that we recognized the problem and adjusted our rules...if you find items that don't seem fair, just point them out and we'll take a look.'

Alyxia nods solemnly.

Alyxia says, 'on bug?'

LadyAce says, 'sure'

LadyAce smiles at Alyxia.

Sigrid thinks low-con persons should be allowed to PAY for their hp.

Sigrid snarls angrily.

RP Clans PK activity in LT? PK Ideas

Krynn says, 'why aren't rp clans that pkill actively listed as having fought in the pk section of the lt?'

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce says, 'That, I don't know. Drop a note to Kaige and Natalia, suggesting it?'

LadyAce says, 'seems like a good idea'

Krynn nods solemnly.

Sigrid says, 'yes, but then pk clans who have rped shoudl be listed somewhere too'

LadyAce says, 'that's what the whole rest of the LT is for :)'

Sigrid says, 'but it takes work from yourself'

Sigrid grumbles.

LadyAce says, 'there's no way for us to track who is RPing and who isn't, nor would we necessarily try to go watch you all for that :P'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

Rusalka says, 'and I won't judge it'

Sigrid says, 'so you're saying you're not 'watching' us? I can't believe that!'

Rusalka says, 'yeppers'

Krynn says, 'i can't believe there's pk clans rp'ing'

Rusalka says, 'believe it or not'

Rusalka says, 'we can be beautifully oblivious'

Sigrid says, 'you're just saying that I'm sure!'

Sigrid glares at nothing in particular.

Kaige says to Krynn, 'we weren't really looking to galvanize the RP clans to action... it's the PK clans who need the focus and spot light turned on them'

Kaige says, 'but ANY pk activity and clans are welcome to submit stuff any time'

Krynn gets a copy of 'Krynn's PK for Dummies' from a dark sleeve.

Kaige says, 'some do, most don't'

Krynn points at a copy of 'Krynn's PK for Dummies'.

Krynn says, 'if this doesn't inspire some people to even test out pk, i give up'

Kaige wishes Krynn good luck!

Krynn thanks Kaige heartily.

Kaige says to Krynn, 'have you talked to Aquilante and.. umm... shoot I can't think of his name's idea for a pk training clan?'

Krynn shakes his head.

Kaige says to Krynn, 'it looked like a good idea, but I haven't heard much since.. basically it was to form an Institute like school, but instead of Healing arts, more like PK arts with people graduating to be teachers and then graduating into one of'

Kaige says, 'two "oldschool" clans...'

Krynn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Krynn says, 'good in concept, but i don't see it happening during the summer =P'

Kaige says, 'yeah. that was kinda my thought... good in concept, just needs someone to get fully behind it and do it'

Krynn says, 'i figure i'll hit 200mil around end of summer, so maybe then =P'

LadyAce says, 'I wonder if you could get a few people, though, as seed for the clan, essentially'

LadyAce says, 'convince a few newbies to let you mentor them :)'

Kaige says, 'what it needs more than warm bodies tho is a catalyst type leader'

Krynn says, 'maybe, maybe not. i'm not good at mass schooling. 1 master, 1 apprentice is the way to go. i trained alot of the mercenaries that way =P'

Krynn looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'I think it'd be reasonable to do things like, put up no-loss testmuds each week, and let people spar on them a bit. If it were organized, and used well, etc.'

Krynn says, 'when's the next imm apps?'

Kaige says, 'yeah. would only need 3 of each that way'

Kaige says, 'sept 1'

LadyAce says, 'tho getting something accomplished as a mort always looks good on an imm app :)'

Krynn chortles with amusement.

LadyAce says, 'if we think you could've done it as a mort, we'll ask why you didn't....'

Krynn says, 'since last september when I hit 98mil I went AA, then ran to 175mil, still AA, and built one of the most organized, well run, and powerful pk clans the mud has ever seen. i need a break from pk for a bit =P'

Bling blinks.

Krynn says, 'specially since now I can't even pick a fight anymore'

Krynn glares at nothing in particular.

Krynn says, 'speaking of which, imm input is welcome'

Krynn points at a copy of 'Krynn's PK for Dummies'.

Krynn says, 'anybody have a piece of advice quote for it? can be related to anything in pk. tactics, mind set, anything at all'

Bling says, 'don't cry if you die'

Krynn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige giggles at Bling.

Kaige nods solemnly.

Krynn says, 'goin' covered that'

Krynn says, 'Goin'fission tells you, 'i think my advice would be 2 things... die when you deserve it, and don't talk shit to people who have mroe friends than you =P''

Kaige says, 'don't boast that you're gods gift to pk if you're not willing to back it up with anyone who questions it'

Alyxia says, 'the xp you may possibly lose is so miniscule you're a mouk if you actually worry about that?'

Kaige says, 'Id' say that was good advise'

Krynn says to Kaige, 'ouch, makes me glad i back it up when confronted =P'

Kaige says, 'and if you get multi'd don't come back. Just add their name to your list of walking DTs and re-eq later'

Krynn says, 'okay got those pasted into my text file'

Kaige says to Krynn, '' err that was supposed to be don't KEEP coming back to have it happen again'

LadyAce says, 'have fun with it...live, die, whatever...do it with style, have a good time. Do something crazy, freak yourself out, go back for more.'

Krynn says to LadyAce, 'i'll disagree with that, but i'm highly competative (can't help it, sports since I was 4) and don't like losing anything =P'

LadyAce says, 'k, then don't quote me'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Krynn already quoted it since it was sound advice.

Krynn says, 'the best part of advice is you don't have to follow it'

Rent on Silver Medallions?

Herbert says, 'what the hells up with silver medallions? HUGE rent, -stat and a little hit rating?'

Herbert says, 'that ever gonna change? hehehe'

Kaige has created a silver medallion!

Kaige says, 'that one?'

Herbert says, 'elegant leather cap is less negative stat, same hit rating, half the rent'

Herbert says, 'yep looks like it :)'

Kaige says, 'it has other affects on it too'

Ea! says, 'Okay, I need to run.'

Kaige eats a silver medallion.

Ea! waves happily.

Kaige hugs Ea!.

Ea! slowly fades into thin air.

Herbert says, 're-heh-eeeallly'

Bart nods his agreement with Kaige.

Herbert looks up into the sky and ponders.

Herbert says, 'well time to go play again!'

Herbert hugs Kaige.

Herbert says to Kaige, 'ok its justified NICELY'

Herbert hugs Kaige.

Kaige says, 'ok closing up shop and stuff here.'

LadyAce says, 'thanks for coming, all.'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige waves happily.

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