November 8th, 2001

Skill Trees

Kaige says, 'so... who's got questions?'

Nop says, 'Okay, I've been gone for a couple years, so I was wondering about skill trees...I'm a paid programmer, so I'd love to hear any shop talk you'd let slip.'

Nop cringes in terror.

Ea! says, 'they're on hold. Haven't touched them in months.'

Nop says, 'Hey, that wasn't so bad. Okay, I've got another, but it can wait till after archangel.'

Ea! says, 'we occassionally work on some of the prerequesite code out there, though.'

Kaige says to Nop, 'we've been trying to get other things that'll make them easier in the long run in and we got side tracked by some balance issues as usual as well.'

Ea! says, 'I've got a rewrite to poisons in progress that needs to go in first.'

Ea! says, 'And when Hrath gets up to speed, I've got one or two things he can work on, too.'

Romeo cheers for Ea! - huzzah!

Kaige nods solemnly.

Housing Reimb?

ArchAngel says, 'i lost the internet due to my isp's server crashing and i haven't had any way what so ever to get online and get on mud to earn some gold i was hoping and wondering if i could get my houses back as they were nov 27..'

Kaige comforts ArchAngel.

Kaige says, 'that sucks.'

Romeo goes EEK! at ArchAngel in distress - isn't ArchAngel an awful person for teasing?

ArchAngel nods solemnly.

Myrrdin giggles at Kaige.

ArchAngel says, 'if i could've i would've prevented the houses from going poofy'

Kaige says to ArchAngel, 'Unfortunately, it's beyond our control as well.'

ArchAngel hangs his head.

Jade comforts ArchAngel.

Korgan comforts ArchAngel.

Kaige says, 'from here we can't tell if you don't log in from isp problems, disinterest, or if you just forgot to put money in your account. =('

Myrrdin says, 'and I reckon once it poofs, it poofs'

ArchAngel peers at Kaige, looking her up and down.

Kaige nods solemnly.

ArchAngel says, 'one thing though if you look at my record i've had a record of being on everyday'

Myrrdin says, 'someone could have already bought the slot you were in'

Ea! says, 'Not to mention that we don't reimb unless there is a verifable bug..'

ArchAngel says, 'noone has'

Kaige says, 'it's one of the ugly prices of having it automated.'

Myrrdin says to Kaige, 'but better than pestering imms'

ArchAngel says, 'if you want to verify my problem i'll give you earthlinks number and you can ask them about the clare server'

Romeo says, 'Earthlink sucks in the first place'

Myrrdin says to ArchAngel, 'the problem is they likely no longer have a record of yer houses and contents'

Korgan chuckles politely.

Masha says, 'Hey all'

ArchAngel says to Myrrdin, 'i know all that was in them and where they all were'

Myrrdin says to ArchAngel, 'sure, but if it was that easy to get it back I would have had a house poof with an old oar and a wormy :P'

ArchAngel growls.

Ea! says to ArchAngel, 'You might check help reimb -- basically, we only reimb when there's a verifiable bug in the game... Sorry.'

ArchAngel says to Myrrdin, 'i had nothing in the house so'

ArchAngel screams, 'AAARRRGHHHH!', clearly quite frustrated.

No Repair Equipment?

Jade says, 'umm, I just wondering why hard mobs have unfixable, oftenly used eq.'

Jade points at Arjuna's conch-shell horn.

Myrrdin says, 'or one time only quest eq, I think this is no fix'

Myrrdin peers intently at a crimson sash.

Isam says, 'how about unfixable sing-quest quest-items...'

Isam says, 'single-quest that is'

Romeo pokes a winged cap - It's dead, Romeo.

Isam nods his agreement with Romeo.

LadyAce says, 'as far as I know, we don't have any one-time non-fixable quest items'

Isam pokes Romeo in the ribs.

LadyAce says, 'sometimes builders use non-fixableness to make an item cheaper -- it's a disadvantage'

Jade says, 'that wasn't my Q :p'

Isam says, 'winged cap is one-time, isnt it?'

Jacob nods solemnly.

Romeo says, 'winged cap'

Jade says, 'the rent on it isn't cheap, by any means.'

Romeo pokes a winged cap - It's dead, Romeo.

Jade says to Isam, 'no'

Isam looks at Jade, boggled.

Jade says to Isam, 'it's repeatable ;)'

LadyAce says, 'it's basically a way to make items rare (the hard mobs/unfixable thing)'

Isam says to Jade, 'ooh, i'll have to right it into my sniper list...'

Isam pokes a bronze horse collar - It's dead, Isam.

LadyAce says, 'we could make an item only pop once time in three, instead, or somesuch'

Isam says, 'horse collar is a awesome item, i think its balanced'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Isam shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'instead you have to use special tactics to get the item'

Jade says, 'well, it's extremely annoying on an item that scraps as easily as a crimson cloak, should be looked at'

LadyAce says, 'some weapons/techniques do less damage to items than others'

Isam says, 'other mud i play has items that have a 0.001 (or higher) % chance to load....'

Isam ponders the crimson cloak's existence.

Kaige points to the bug/idea channels.

Isam says, 'i'm very protective of my cloak'

Jade says, 'anyway, move on :p'

Isam nods solemnly.

Romeo likes his cap but alway gets elbowed in it

Isam grins evilly at Rikimaru.. wonder what he's thinking...

Jade says to Romeo, 'anyone who would use elbow, pkwise, should be easy enough to beat, tho ;)'

Clans & Non-Members' Titles?

Myrrdin says, 'I think there should be some punitive action taken by imms when someone has a clan name in their title when they don't belong to that clan...'

Jade nods her agreement with Myrrdin.

Myrrdin says, 'not only does it make pkers run after them, they can also give a clan a bad name'

Jade nods her agreement with Myrrdin.

Jacob laughs with amusement.

LadyAce says, 'I think it's an excellent opportunity for RP.'

LadyAce says, 'it's not cheating, although I understand it being annoying'

Myrrdin says, 'but say someone does something to give a clan a bad name, the clan cannot stop them'

Romeo hates Titles in the first place and votes to remove em.

Nop ponders Romeo's existence.

Isam says, 'if someone has a title with a pk clan, they should atleast have to accept the clan there impersonating'

Kaige says, 'the only time I can see it being a problem would be when it becomes harassing. Talking to the person would probably be the best way to get it taken care of'

Nop says, 'Can we at least keep automated level-titles, Romeo?'

LadyAce says, 'I'd blame the people who would take a title at face value and not let a GM convince them otherwise.'

Myrrdin says, 'not to mention you can waste mana trying to kill someone not really in a clan...pk interference? :P'

Kaige says, 'know thy enemy?'

Kaige giggles.

Straussy chuckles politely.

Gaia giggles.

Myrrdin says to Kaige, 'hard with so many chars these days...it isn't 30 of us playing anymore :P'

Jacob says to Kaige, 'know thyself :P'

Rikimaru says, 'use a mana less skill to check'

Kaige nods her agreement with Jacob.

Rikimaru gives Myrrdin a long, firm backrub - if you ask nicely, maybe you'd be next.

Isam says, 'backstab works good :P'

LadyAce smiles at Rikimaru.

Jade says, 'actually, not using a spell to start could be the difference between winning and losing for some.'

Strip of Silk vs Totems?

Myrrdin says, 'why is strip of silk quest doable only once...it discourages chars with evil align...neutral and good can do totem over and over and know they getting what they want, whereas evil gets one shot with a 1 in 6 chance'

LadyAce says, 'well...that, I don't know'

LadyAce says, 'you'll hafta ask the builder'

Myrrdin says, 'but is good point no?'

Jacob says, 'isn't that you :P'

Myrrdin pulls out the coffee, trying to lure Kae.

Jacob says, 'oh nm thought it was in crusades'

Jade snickers at Jacob nastily.

Jacob tickles ArchAngel.

Myrrdin says, 'ok, will talk to kae, thats it for my questions'

Get People Involved in TinyPlots?

Masha says to LadyAce, 'My question is: What would it take to get more people involved in an upcoming tiny plot? I've got one worked out, just trying to find some imput on how to get people involved in it'

Myrrdin says, 'I'm in'

Nop says, 'That's easy! Coupons.'

Straussy says, 'I would post it'

Myrrdin says, 'informing people is a good start :P'

Straussy says, 'first of all'

Kaige says, 'talk, advertise, talk, advertise, talk, advertise.... .'

LadyAce says, 'Posting on the news board, yeah'

LadyAce says, 'talk on channels some'

Kaige says, 'did I mention talk about it and advertise?'

LadyAce says, 'write an article about it for the lt'

Straussy nods solemnly.

Straussy says, 'any advertising you can think of would work'

Romeo says, 'Oh I think Kaige thinks it would be a good Idea to Advertise'

Gaia says, 'We need to know how tough the TP would be when you post the idea'

Isam says to Romeo, 'possibly..'

Dae says, 'advertise pubicly?'

Masha says, 'okay, thanks. stupid waste of time, but in any case, to fill a spot in Q&A'

LadyAce says, 'if that doesn't do it, let me know :)'

Dae says, 'publicly'

Dae whaps himself across the back of the head!

Bug with Hunger & Thirst?

Rikimaru says, 'hunger, are you going to fix it, or is it going to be stuck this way?'

Nop says, 'What's wrong with hunger?'

LadyAce says, 'I might be way out of touch, but ... I don't know of a hunger bug?'

Rikimaru says, 'if you drink every 2 ticks'

Rikimaru says, 'it fills you up'

Ea! says, 'what are you drinking?'

Rikimaru says, 'as in like it takes one of the hunger meter'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, 'anything'

Ea! looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rikimaru says to Ea!, 'i've tested it on 3 wells'

ArchAngel says, 'does it really matter in the long run it all comes out you need to eat only when you need to heal'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, 'and out of a skin'

Jade says, 'it's done that for quite some time now. :p'

Romeo thinks hunger rate should be slowed too

Dae says, 'yea you get hungry fast heh'

Gaia nods her agreement with Romeo.

Korgan nods his agreement with Dae.

Dae says, 'now that creates don't need to starve that could take longer'

LadyAce says, 'water does have a fill val, I think that's a known feature?'

Rikimaru says to Jade, 'i know, i've been researching it for a while'

Nop says, 'Damn near every day, it seems like!'

Ea! says, 'Water is supposed to fill you up some. Nothing has changed with that for a long time.'

LadyAce says, 'I mean, you can't drink piles of water and expect to follow it up with a big meal'

Rikimaru says, 'it fills you up all the way'

Jade says, 'water should have a fill value, imo. :p'

Kaige says, 'well you only have one stomach, the problem is we have separate counters for hunger and thirst.'

Ea! says, 'In fact, I think tequila is the only thing that doesn't fill you up at all.'

Jade says to Rikimaru, 'ummm, no it doesn't.'

Rikimaru says, 'look don't belive me'

Rikimaru says, 'hrath as the log'

Ea! says, 'You went from starving to full in how many drinks of water?'

Kaige says, 'no., we're not saying we don't believe you, in fact Hrath already brought this up, and he was already looking into it.'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, 'like 6 if that'

Romeo cheer for Hrath!

Ea! says to Rikimaru, 'And you don't get full of water first?'

LadyAce says, 'if you're really thirsty and not super hungry, I can see it happening?'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, '1 hunger counter every 4 ticks'

Ea! says, 'hm?'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, '1 thirst every 2 ticks'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, 'so if you drink every 2 ticks, you net 1 hunger counter'

Rikimaru says to Ea!, 'i think it might also be longer on the hunger counter thing'

Ea! says, 'Water should fill you up thirst-wise a *lot* faster than food-wise. I'll have to check with Hrath to see how his investigation is coming.'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Ea!.

Bug with Wall of Fire?

Jade says, 'please explain how calatins wall of fire can do 18 damage to me, the leader, and 109 damage to someone (only one person) in my group, 18 to the rest as well.'

Jade says, 'or around 18, anyway.'

ArchAngel says, 'armor class...'

Jade says to ArchAngel, 'ac isn't going to make a 100 damage diff, nor was his ac much diff than mine'

Ea! says, 'I'm not sure.'

Kaige says, 'weird. no clue. not without digging into the code and looking at it close'

Ea! says, 'It shouldn't make that much of a different.'

Jade nods her agreement with Ea!.

Rikimaru says, 'was the person taking more damage the tank?'

Ea! says, 'Unless, perhaps, someone was susceptible to fire?'

Ea! says, 'even then, I'd be surprised.'

Jade says to Ea!, 'nopers.'

Gaia says, 'reall susceptiable'

Jade says to Ea!, 'I checked with him. ;)'

Rikimaru says to Jade, 'it was herbert right?'

Jade shakes her head in disagreement with Rikimaru.

Jade says to Rikimaru, 'podo'

Rikimaru looks up into the sky and ponders.

ArchAngel says, 'i think different types of eq will take different amounts of damage'

Jade says to ArchAngel, 'HE took the damage.'

LadyAce says, 'it sounds sorta like he was the primary victim of the spell or somethin'

LadyAce knows nothing about it.

ArchAngel says, 'certain eq sets well alter how much damage gets done to you'

Jade says to LadyAce, 'you can't direct walls :p'

Ea! will need to look into it in more detail.

Kaige says, 'things like that are really best investigated close to teh time it happens or at least with a log to show what looked funky'

Ea! nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says to Jade, 'right, but it seems like it picked on him to do its thing'

Jade says, 'wee, another wall bug :p'

Ea! says to Jade, 'if you see it happen again, try to grab a log of it?'

Jade nods her agreement with Ea!.

Ea! thanks Jade heartily.

Jade says to Ea!, 'certainly.'

LT Table of Contents

Nop says, 'Cool. Would it be possible, in the future at least, to be more descriptive in the table of contents for MUD related info as opposed to RP related info?'

Nop says, 'Or maybe strip out all the mud related and dump it in a huge file so's I don't have to keep clicking to find out about updates on the website?'

LadyAce says, 'in the table of contents? of the LT I guess?'

Nop says, 'Whoops, yeah. LT.'

Nop is a dork.

Kaige says to Nop, 'you do know about the search box on the web, yes?'

Nop says, 'No.'

Nop says, 'This is why I ask these questions.'

LadyAce says, 'Usually the first half of the LT is game info, and the second half is rp info'

LadyAce says, 'if you scroll down on the page, there's a search box'

Kaige says, 'down at the bottom of the red ribbon... type in what you're looking for and hit "Seek"'

Jade says to Kaige, 'on the legend site?'

Nop says, 'Spiffy, never noticed that. Nevermind. Still would like the ToC to be more descriptive, if I'm just scanning for random tidbits.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Jade.

Jade says to Kaige, 'wow, never seen it, should put it on top ;)'

Kaige says, 'I couldn't get it to look right at the top'

Jade nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'More descriptive how?'

LadyAce says, 'I mean, it usually says 'Q & A Summary' and 'Recent Updates''

Nop says, 'I mean, we have "Announcements," then "McDougan's Latest Horrors." Be nice if it said, I dunno, "Code updates, ARea updates, New Areas" depedning.'

LadyAce says, 'the top half is all OOC, the bottom half is IC, so you can use that to filter out what you don't want to see'

Nop says, 'Or even as specific as "Poison update" would be nice.'

Kaige says, 'that'd get ugly fast.'

LadyAce says, 'the lists of updates are long enough that to pick out everything would make the ToC pretty big'

Nop says, 'Well, I really only have troubles when I'm trying to catch up on two years of LT's and only am interested in major updates, not every one.'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Jade says to Nop, 'so ask people here. :p'

LadyAce says, 'we try to put all the major updates in 'help updates' -- but our idea of major and your idea of major are different, I expect.'

Nop says, 'Do you know the griping I got when I asked what happened to HoL!?!'

Nop says, 'Thought it was a lynch mob!'

Romeo laughs at Nop.

LadyAce says, 'Something of a sore subject, I spose.'

Jade says, 'touchy subject ;)'

Nop says, 'ask, they say'

Romeo still doesnt know the Whole Hol story

Jade says, 'in short, Flagg was pms'ing.'

Jade says to Romeo, 'none of us really know the details of it.'

Nop says, 'That's not very informative.'

Nop says, 'Was it Flagg left, so imms ripped HoL, or Flagg left, and took HoL with?'

Jade says, 'all part of the imm conspiracy.'

Romeo says, 'maybe I should Rerephrase that I know none of the story!'

Jade says, 'took hol and hell when he left.'

LadyAce says, 'He required us to remove it, and he chose to leave.'

LadyAce says, 'neither were what we wanted.'

Nop says, 'I can imagine.'

Nop says, 'Okay, skill trees, HoL, any other big news that I should be wary about?'

Jade says, 'though, LoP is better than HOL in my opinion.'

Kaige smiles at Jade.

Kaige says, 'I like it'

LadyAce says, 'PKOK'

Nop says, 'I miss sex change and the store in HoL, but then, I'm a newbie.'

LadyAce says, 'if it's 2 full years you're talkin about'

Jade says, 'hell remains to be seen, I'm wary of it being anywhere near as good as Flagg's.'

Nop says, 'Saw PKOK on welcome board, thankfully. Good point, though.'

Nop says, 'At least 2 full years.'

LadyAce says, ''gradual stats' = 'no more spam gear''

LadyAce says, 'but that might've been during your time here'

LadyAce says, 'a few new areas'

Jade says, 'or spam gear = wait forever. ;)'

LadyAce giggles.

Nop says, 'Nm, I'll just keep combing the LT.'

LadyAce says, 'if you come across stuff that you think belongs in help updates, let us know? On idea channel?'

Nop notes the first time he logged into LegendMUD, Tudor was just put in.

Nop flexes his bulging, impressive muscles.

Nop says, 'Dammit, a help file I wish I had known about sooner.'

Nop isn't a newbie, he just plays one on LegendMUD.

LadyAce smiles at Nop.

Any New Housing?

Vendetta says, 'Are there more areas with housing now'

Jade says to Vendetta, 'are there area's without housing?'

LadyAce says, 'No, not that I know of. Poor Klein is still without.'

Vendetta says, 'I mean do some areas allow housing now eg Klein'

Vendetta says, 'ah k!'

Nop says, 'Does Skatha have housing??'

Jade says, 'even the pisle islands have housing :p'

LadyAce shakes her head in disagreement with Nop.

Nop says, 'See, Jade?'

Info on Imm App?

Romeo says, 'I just wanted to know what entails earning an IMMship'

Romeo nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Nop says, 'Skatha doesn't have housing. Not everywhere has housing.'

LadyAce says, '"help immort" and "help application" are the right places to start.'

Kaige says to Romeo, 'www.legendmud.org/Reference/documents.html has info on becoming an imm'

Romeo nods solemnly.

Nop says, 'Don't imm, Romeo, who will I dt with!?!'

Romeo says, 'I knew it was somewhere!'

LadyAce says, ''websites' command for URLs'

Area Spell Changes?

Jade says, 'a while back, at a Q&A, Rufus and Ea! made mention of changing area effects, just wondering what, if any, are still planned?'

Jade says, 'like earthquake, etc..'

LadyAce says, 'I haven't seen any changes on that front in a while.'

LadyAce says, 'I imagine they still have their notes and such, but it's not at the top of the queue'

Jade would love to see the todo list.

Romeo nods his agreement with Jade.

Romeo says, 'I bet the TODO list is a mile long'

Romeo says, 'I wanna see the Today list'

Romeo nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Romeo flees

Ea! says, 'The "today" list?'

Romeo says, 'the things being WERKED on today'

3C Create & PK?

Jade says, 'has there been enough time to determine that 3C create's are lacking in pk?'

Romeo says to Jade, 'you just dont know how to pk thats all'

Ea! says to Jade, 'We're not sure what we're doing about that. It might be a little while.'

Jade nods her agreement with Ea!.

Jade thanks Ea! heartily.

Jade says to Romeo, 'you're welcome to test my pk abilities ;)'

Romeo says to Jade, 'I tried with your alt but she fled and rented out'

Jade says, 'well, that char is terrible.'

Nop says, 'Excuses.'

Romeo nods his agreement with Nop.

Romeo jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Nop!

Jade smirks.

Nop says, 'Oh, here's a Q, what's wrong with balms that everyone complains so much?'

Romeo says, 'I love balms'

Jade says to Nop, 'creates lost the ability to instantly heal quite a bit of hp.'

Ea! says, 'I think the main complaint people have is that it doesn't give an instant boost the way roots used to. You have to wait.'

Whois String Removed?

Nop says, 'And what would it take to get a whois-string *removed*? Multi color coupon? Redemption points?'

Nop bubbles over.

LadyAce says, 'you can hide all your whoises'

LadyAce says, 'there's a config for it'

Nop says, 'I only want one gone.'

Nop says, 'The rest are kewl.'

LadyAce says, 'we don't have a thingy for that. :/'

Nop says, 'Dammit.'

Nop says, 'And about whois-strings, the brit one I got is worded totally funny. I made a typo about that, thought I'd check up on it.'

Nop says, 'So, I'm the only one who cares that my whois string implies that Tea is more dangerous than Opium?'

LadyAce says, 'report it on typo, and await a fix :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

TRON looks about accusingly.

Nop says, 'Did already. Just making sure you guys agreed, and that it would get fixed.'

Kaige says to Nop, 'I haven't had a chance yet, but it'll get changed and it'll change automatically when it does'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Balm on Others Message?

SkullKrusher says, 'balm work on charmies?'

LadyAce says, 'try it and see'

Ea! says, 'it should.'

SkullKrusher says, 'or is it just me... it doesn't seem to do much...'

Romeo says to Ea!, 'thats in game info :P'

Jade says, 'balm works fine on charmies'

Romeo ducks to the ground.

SkullKrusher says, 'shouldnt you get a message when you apply it?>'

SkullKrusher says, 'glowy thingy?'

SkullKrusher says, 'ea! shouldn't i get a message when i apply balm on a charmie?'

Kaige has created a vile vial of balm!

Kaige uses a vile vial of balm.

Kaige slowly covers Ea! with a blueish-green ointment.

SkullKrusher shrugs philosophically.

Kaige gets a message when she uses it on other people.

SkullKrusher says, 'no glow?'

SkullKrusher says, 'it is that random?'

Kaige says, 'oh'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tell Catcher -- AFK

Jade says to Ea!, 'when that tell catcher go in, btw?'

Jade says to Ea!, 'it rocks ;)'

LadyAce says, 'that's a good point, that should be in the helpfile'

Top of Coder Todo?

Jade says, 'what's at the top of the todo list? :p'

Ea! says to Jade, 'ident occassionally (temporarily?) hangs the mud (a temporary fix has been put in which disables ident lookups)'

Ea! says, 'Actually, technically, it's: ====---- The Non-Canonical LegendMUD Coder Todo List ----===='

LadyAce giggles at Ea!.

Jade giggles at Ea!.

Ea! says, 'We don't necessarily work from the top down, though.'

Laggy Connection Status

Chaykin says, 'how long do you expect it will be before we're on the faster connection?'

LadyAce says to Chaykin, 'we're really not sure right now.'

LadyAce says, 'I wouldn't expect any changes before January'

Chaykin nods solemnly.

SkullKrusher shudders.

Jade says, 'jan isn't far off. :p'

LadyAce says, 'well, that's not a promise for changes in Jan'

LadyAce says, 'it's just that I know for sure there won't be any changes until then.'

Chaykin says, 'it could be worse'

Chaykin says, 'We'll be switching servers when we install skilltrees.'

Areas in Testing?

Jade says, 'any areas in testing?'

LadyAce sees a lot of hell tester reports, but thinks they are preliminary.

Jade nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'that's the most active front I know of atm'

Chaykin says, 'how many areas are there in various stages of completion?'

LadyAce chuckles politely.

LadyAce has created the builder board!

LadyAce pets the builder board lovingly.

Jade says to Chaykin, '2, 3 dozen :p'

LadyAce says, 'many'

Chaykin says, 'hehe'

Romeo says, 'ohhh Hawail'

Chaykin says, 'holy jumping mother of god in a sidecar with chocolate jimmies and a lobster bib'

Chaykin says, 'that's a lot'

LadyAce pets Chaykin lovingly.

Chaykin says, 'that's almost an entire second mud's worth'

Romeo says, 'I cant wait for Prohibition'

Nop says, 'Woo! Silk! Now I can get another unwanted whois string from the Chinese!'

Romeo says, 'and the Whoisis I know are gonna be there'

Chaykin says, 'Kaige w/Ptah, that's just the work he already did on it way back when, right?'

Nop says, '...once stripped Chinese peasants naked for a profit!'

Jade thinks navajo sounds fun. ;)

Kaige nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Kaige says to Nop, 'y'all strip peasants all the time for profit...'

Chaykin says, 'too bad Ptah doesn't write new areas, he's one heck of a writer'

Nop says, 'Gilgamesh. On it, now.'

Nop attempts to prod Ea! but Ea! isn't about to go anywhere.

Kaige says, 'actually I'm making him help me with one we started a while back'

Chaykin says to Kaige, 'which?'

Kaige says, 'the 1950s americana one'

Chaykin says, 'ah yes, neat'

How much diskspace?

Romeo says, 'How big is legend bit wise :P'

LadyAce says, ''areainfo' has all the areas'

Nop says, 'I think he wants, like, the disk space taken.'

Romeo says, 'I mean like space'

Ea! says, 'Legend's code is currently about 160 KLC.'

Romeo nods his agreement with Nop.

Nop says, 'Oh, that's right, its all interpreted, neh?'

Ea! says, 'That is, 160,000 lines of code.'

Romeo whistles appreciatively.

LadyAce says, 'compiled, in C'

Romeo says, 'not enough'

Hrath says to Ea!, 'that's without areas, right?'

Jade says, 'wow, much smaller than I imagined.'

Nop says, 'Hmm...don't you guys use some LPC variant? Or maybe that's that other mud.'

Romeo nods his agreement with Jade.

Chaykin says, 'what's the oldest one on here? Prolly Matrix's area'

Hrath says, 'wah, compiled, implies no areas'

Kaige says, 'my areas directory is like 23.7 mb but that's got extra stuff in it.'

Ea! says, 'the executable is about 8.5MB on a sparc machine, 3.5MB if I remove the debugging symbols.'

Chaykin says, 'I'm talking ones that aren't in at all'

Ea! says, 'Add another meg or two for help files, libraries, etc.'

Romeo whistles appreciatively.

Kaige says to Ea!, 'more than that... I don't have room to check all of help out on my machine here'

LadyAce says, 'okie. Thanks for coming, all :)'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Chaykin says, 'no prob, it's Tick time'

Chaykin waves happily.

Romeo waves happily.

Hrath blinks.

Kaige waves happily.

Hrath waves happily.

Kaige says, 'thanks for coming. =)'

Kaige gives gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige waves happily.

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