March 1st, 2001

Boxers Fixed?

Tobias says, 'Are these fixed yet?'

Tobias points at a pair of silk boxers decorated with hearts.

Tobias giggles.

LadyAce says, 'I *thought* I fixed 'em after the first day or so'

Little-Angel giggles at Tobias.

Tobias shakes his head.

Tobias says, 'nope'

Tobias says, 'Lots of people got the wrong colors'

LadyAce says, 'but maybe they didn't go in. We don't reboot a lot'

Little-Angel says, 'I have alt who has a pair too'

Kaige says, 'did the area get updated in the running directory? we've crashed a few times'

LadyAce says, 'well, I can fix them, or you can keep them'

Tobias says, 'Well, they were neat discolored at first...but now its kinda standing out'

Tobias giggles.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'possibly not...'

LadyAce will check into it.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'it's also possible I didn't even commit the fix, or that I fixed it wrong.'

Kaige says, 'yeah cause it's up to date as of the 14th.'

LadyAce says, 'yeah, I must not've committed it. My version is 9/15 so red & white'

LadyAce says, 'well, wait, my version *IS* committed....'

LadyAce is completely boggled by the concept.

Yelled at for ideas?

Rosaline says to LadyAce, 'well this morning, I was trying to think up ideas, most of mine were silly like a winnie the pooh mob and kae said i'd get into trouble if i idead it'

LadyAce says, 'oh, she was probably kidding'

Kae says, 'actually I said that if you spammed with silly ideas, you'd get yelled at :)'

LadyAce says, 'might be fun as a PR idea actually'

Kae says, 'that'd be another story'

Straussy says, 'if you like pooh bear and all'

Rosaline says, 'oh really? then i can idea silly ideas!'

LadyAce says, 'any imm that yells at people for ideas will be yelled at by ME>'

Rosaline gets her idea jar out.

LadyAce says, 'so idea all the darn ideas you want to.'

Kae says to Rosaline, 'spamming ideas just to spam = bad. Silly ideas = okie.'

Tobias giggles.

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'I dont get yelled at, but I do get spanked often for it'

LadyAce says, 'imms can turn it off.'

Rosaline says, 'ooooooh :)'

Chaykin says, 'we have Tweety and Sylvester, why not Pooh Bear?'

Chaykin giggles.

Straussy says, 'hrmm'

Tobias says, 'Imm pets ^_~'

Chaykin says, 'I know that'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'well, you should let me know about that :P'

Tarquin says, 'yea i wanna see a pooh bear runnin around'

Little-Angel giggles at LadyAce.

Chaykin says, 'but maybe someone else could make him their pet :)'

Tobias says, 'He could give out the malta honey jars.'

Rosaline says, 'i idead it!'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'if you want to know everytime an IMM spanks me, you're gonna be spammed to heck and back'

LadyAce is serious. It's a darn suggestion box, it's almost impossible to misuse.

Chaykin cheers for Rosaline - huzzah!

Rosaline nods her agreement with Tobias.

Rosaline says to Tobias, 'that's what i said'

Tobias nods his agreement with Rosaline.

Rosaline says, 'Pooh Bear mob, fuzzy and stuffies, and he should give out honey pots :)'

Tobias jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Rosaline!

Kae says, 'that'd be cute :)'

Rosaline nods solemnly.

Tarquin wonders why Imms never spank him.

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Kae.

Tobias says to Kae, 'Yeah, and it'd make use of the constantly spawning honey in that one room'

Tobias giggles.

Chaykin says, 'long as it's not Tigger, he's so overdone'

Kae grins evilly.

Chaykin giggles.

Tobias says to Kae, 'I went in and there were 27 jars!'

Kaige says, 'and it'd make stile's poofs make sense'

Kaige giggles.

Kae says, 'um, oof'

Rosaline says to LadyAce, 'well what if i idea *ladyace should get a raise* that would be misuse :P'

Chaykin says, 'and I guess there's already a Tigger mob anyway'

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Kaige.

Chaykin peers at himself myopically.

Rosaline says, 'RABBIT!'

Tobias goes EEK! in distress.

Kaige says, 'yeah but Tigger is a cat, not a tiger'

Tarquin says, 'he can sit under a tree and when the room is full of honey hell say Oh bother...'

Little-Angel says to Kaige, 'how'd you know?'

Chaykin says to Kaige, 'sure, but it prolly means there couldn't be a tiger'

Plans for a Japan Area?

Masha says, 'I heard that there was going to be a Japan area... is that true?'

LadyAce says, 'No...'

Chaykin shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'an imm was going to work on it once...'

Cirus pouts.

Tobias says, 'Not until a builder comes up with one?'

Masha shrugs helplessly.

Chaykin says, 'I'd be interested in maybe doing that someday'

Masha says, 'just wanted to know if it was true or not, because i'd really like to see Shogun Japan here'

LadyAce says to Masha, 'it'd be neat, but we need an imm to do it'

Straussy says to Tobias, 'would of been nice for a Shotokai type clan too'

What about Shakespeare's Plays?

Abulafia says, 'I'd like to see a Shakespeare's Plays area...'

Abulafia says, 'If any builder likes the idea.'

Kae says, 'they are in the works'

Kaige says, 'in the works already (shakespeare that is)'

Kae says, 'hamlet, the tempest, and a midsummer night's dream are in the works.'

Abulafia stands on his tip-toes and does a Snoopy-like dance of joy!

LadyAce says to Abulafia, 'Kae, Russie, and Chimera are on that project'

Abulafia says, 'Shows what I know...'

Abulafia smiles happily.

Kae giggles.

LadyAce says, 'I haven't seen anything new about it for a while'

LadyAce says, 'so there's no way you coulda known.'

Kae says, 'Rusalka is almost ready to test.'

Sandra has created the builder board!

Kaige says, 'Chim's busy with school, but is working on it offline in the meantime'

Kae isn't. Hell got in the way.

Sandra flops all over the builder board.

LadyAce says to Kae, 'doesn't it always? :)'

Sasha smiles at Sandra.

Finding out Building Projects

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'is there a way that players could find out what areas are actually being created? so we dont suggest/idea/propose areas that might already be in the works?'

LadyAce points at the builder board.

Sasha says, '1st floor'

Sandra says, 'I'm good'

Kaige points at Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Little-Angel giggles.

Sandra says, 'post 3'

LadyAce hugs Marcel.

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'yeah, but we cant see that all the time'

Little-Angel giggles.

Ea! says, 'Before you propose an area, you should always talk to the head builder,anyway.'

Kae says, 'can too :)'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'you go in the ooc and you can'

Sandra says, 'you can see it every time you go to the builder floor ;)'

How can you get Tokens?

Rosaline says to LadyAce, 'I'm Token hungry, aside from LT and Lottery what other ways are there to get tokens'

Rosaline beams at LadyAce delightedly.

LadyAce says to Rosaline, 'games & lt & token lottery is it.'

Rosaline sighs loudly.

Rosaline pouts at LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'and buying 'em :)'

Rosaline's next idea is more ways to get Tokens!

Generic Animal Project?

Chaykin says, 'I know I'd be better off asking Cheyla this but she's not here and the question just occurred to me. What exactly does the revision to generic animals entail?'

Sasha giggles at Chaykin.

Kae knows a bit about that.

Chaykin smiles at Kae.

LadyAce says, 'it's a set of animals all builders can use'

Mandarb grins evilly.

Kae says, 'the idea is to get animals mud-wide to basically be the same'

LadyAce says, 'one example of them are the horses'

Kae says, 'a horse is a horse, and so on.'

LadyAce says, 'so that we don't end up re-creating each other's work'

Kae says, 'builders can still alter animals individually in their areas if they want to.'

LadyAce says, 'and so they can be more detailed with less effort'

Chaykin says, 'a lot of mobs already are the same across the mud, aren't they? like the same children and cats are in London and Agrabah'

Kae says to Chaykin, 'to the eye, yes, to the code no'

Chaykin says, 'same rabbits in RB and Sherwood'

LadyAce says, 'those are actually separately maintained'

Sandra says, 'the cats are for the most part'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Kae.

Kae says, 'and that's what we want to fix.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Abulafia nods solemnly.

Chaykin says, 'won't that cut down on variety?'

Ea! says, 'And due to the inheritance system it means that builders can take a "generic" animal and make it less generic.'

Sandra says, 'there are alot of generic animals in already. Cheyla's making more of them'

Kae says, 'not at all'

Abulafia says, 'What? Efficiency?'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says, 'well, there are hundreds of these animals'

Kae says, 'it will give a wider spread actually'

Abulafia nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'and they all have big sets of acts.'

Kae says, 'we'll have more hands free to work with more varieties'

Chaykin says, 'oh, great'

Straussy nods his agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'so builders have this tool, inheritance'

LadyAce says, 'and we can leverage all the 'generic' stuff and then add to it'

Kae says, 'take the cat dustdevil act'

Kae says, 'outside of agrabah and malta that looks weird'

Abulafia says, 'Not reinventing the wheel all the time...'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'inheritance is spiffy'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Abulafia.

Kae says, 'under the final system, a builder in a non-desert area could strip it and add one about chasing leaves'

Little-Angel says, 'not really, dust devils are everywhere there is wind'

Kaige nods her agreement with Abulafia.

LadyAce says, 'it's a more object-oriented approach to building'

Straussy nods his agreement with Ea!.

Chaykin says, 'okie, sounds cool :)'

Abulafia nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Little-Angel nods solemnly.

Abulafia says, 'it should run faster that way as well.'

LadyAce says, 'well...maybe.'

Kae says, 'probably about the same as we'll be tampering with the animals still'

LadyAce says, 'the code's not optimized for it like you're thinking'

Abulafia nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'but builder time is optimized a little'

Kae purrs contentedly.

Abulafia says, 'still, the benefits to the builder are well worth it.'

LadyAce points at Rosaline.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Abulafia.

Kae says, 'ayup'

Can we ever become Honorary Imms?

Rosaline says, 'would it be possible to one day become say, honorary imms or something :)'

Kae says, 'legends of the past!'

LadyAce says to Rosaline, 'not really ...'

Rosaline sighs loudly.

Rosaline says, 'why not?'

LadyAce says, 'well ... maybe you can tell me more about what underlies your request'

LadyAce says, 'and I'll answer better.'

Rosaline beams delightedly.

Ea! says, 'The title 'honorary imm' sounds too much like we're playing favorites.'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Ea!.

Abulafia says, 'do you mean morts doing building?'

Abulafia says, 'or something else?'

Rosaline says, 'ok, well like, well by honorary imms it wouldn't mean that you have the same powers, it could be just for a day or something'

Sasha says, 'why should morts get to build? that'd be insane'

LadyAce says, 'well, but why? :)'

Rosaline says, 'like you could shadow and imm or somehting'

Kae says, 'oh, like an April first game?'

LadyAce says, 'you mean like, take your daughter to work day?'

LadyAce giggles.

Rosaline says, 'a way to see if you truly want to be an imm'

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Sandra giggles.

Chaykin giggles at LadyAce.

Rosaline nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sasha laughs with amusement.

Tobias says, 'Like job shadowing'

Rosaline says, 'i love that day! :)'

Sasha grins evilly at LadyAce.. wonder what she's thinking...

Kae says to Rosaline, 'write the proposal, that's a good test ;)'

Cirus nods his agreement with Rosaline.

Rosaline nods her agreement with Tobias.

Tobias grins evilly at Kae.. wonder what he's thinking...

LadyAce says, 'that might be pretty hard to do'

Marcel joins Mitra's group.

Rosaline says to Kae, 'a proposal?'

Tobias says, 'you can't really echo tells'

Tobias says to Rosaline, 'What you have to write to be an imm.'

Kae says, 'immortal application, to join the staff'

Little-Angel says, 'the idea of how to pick which mort could or couldnt do it, and which IMM would or wouldnt be shadow'd'

Kae says, 'it's actually not a small feat to get through it.'

Rosaline giggles.

Tobias says to Kae, 'I was thinking of trying one, then got lazy. So I figured that right there proved I shouldn't be an imm ^_~'

LadyAce says, 'but it doesn't tell you what it's like'

Rosaline says, 'ok, I read the application, HARD sounding'

Kae says to Tobias, 'that's abut the idea I think...'

Cirus nods his agreement with Tobias.

Tobias nods solemnly.

Tobias says, 'I'll just keep giving ideas, that's enough for me ^_~'

Tobias giggles.

Kae says to Tobias, 'yeah! more Hell ideas!'

Kae pets the big bag of ideas from HELL! lovingly.

LadyAce says, 'the process of writing an app is a good test for builders I think'

Sasha grins evilly at Tobias.. wonder what she's thinking...

Rosaline says, 'ok, i'll propose the idea but i don't want to give up playing Rosaline'

Tobias nods his agreement with Kae.

Little-Angel giggles at Kae.

Tobias says to Kae, 'Will do!'

Abulafia nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'but it's a little less good for coders and not really at all for PR'

Kae can of course talk best about Builder.

Abulafia says, 'Don't want to be a builder...wouldn't mind being a creative consultant.'

LadyAce giggles.

Abulafia smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'we have plenty of consultants :P'

Chaykin says, 'heh a contract employee'

LadyAce says, 'currently 39 online, max since reboot is 58.'

LadyAce winks suggestively at Abulafia.

LadyAce says, 'our trouble is never lack of ideas, it's always lack of time'

Rosaline says to LadyAce, 'so, should i propose my idea? if it got accepted would i have to give up playing Rosaline/'

Abulafia nods solemnly.

Rusalka nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Chaykin says to Rosaline, 'do it with another char?'

Tarquin nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka says, 'yes, unless you proposed as somoene else'

Kae says, 'unless you propose it with another character'

Rosaline sighs loudly.

LadyAce says to Rosaline, 'well, you mean propose your idea of the shadow an imm thing?'

Rosaline looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tobias says, 'Which is a pain, cause they have to be above 45.'

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Rosaline says, 'which char don't i need.... heh'

Little-Angel giggles.

Cirus laughs with amusement.

Rosaline nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Chaykin says to Rosaline, 'that char just has to be level 45 at least'

LadyAce says, 'well... when I immed, I immed my only char.'

Rusalka says to LadyAce, 'me too'

Straussy sniffs sadly at LadyAce.

Rusalka says to LadyAce, 'er me too'

Little-Angel says, 'could I give her one of my old ones outta archive to propse with?'

Rusalka says, 'well, i had three'

Little-Angel ducks to the ground.

Rusalka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'I immed my most known'

Straussy says, 'me three'

Rusalka says, 'but no one else was getting to 50 fast'

Ea! says, 'Me, too.'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'no'

Little-Angel pouts at LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'way back when I only had 3 chars or something'

Rusalka giggles at Sandra.

Kae kept herself in the archive box for a year as not to loose the good ones.

Straussy chuckles politely at Sandra's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'I guess what I'm saying is, if it's that much of a loss to you, you might want to reconsider'

Tobias says, 'I have problems juggling two characters...can't even comprehend keeping 3 unarchived at once.'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'they're lvl 50, and archived, 99.9% of the people around here wouldnt recognize 'em anyway'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'bingo :P'

Rosaline nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rosaline says, 'but its a darn swell idea!'

Rusalka says, 'it just felt right for this character'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'so let her use 'em =)'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'We don't want unknown names imming'

Sandra says, 'that's just a lose/lose situation. They have to be known. If they're known, then they're known as you'

Rusalka says, 'make someone really evil to imm'

Ea! says, 'You don't want to be an unknown name imming.'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'you'd recognize 'em tho =P'

Tobias says, 'Where's Danar been, anyways?'

Kae says, 'also, it's vital that the player imming HAS had a level 45 of her own'

Kae says, 'knowing the mud and all that.'

Rusalka nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'we didn't create the level requirement just for fun, it's actually there for a function.'

Rusalka says, 'used to be 50'

Tobias says to Kae, 'They could have levelled exclusively in tara...'

Tarquin nods solemnly.

Little-Angel nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Cirus nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Tobias.

Kae says to Tobias, 'if so I hope they get bored reading the app :)'

Tobias says to Kae, 'Killed cian a few billion times.'

Tobias laughs with amusement.

Rosaline says to LadyAce, 'what would be another way for me to propose my idea?'

Masha smirks.

Tobias says, 'I hate doing the math for how long its going to take me to reach 100 million.'

Tobias grumbles.

LadyAce says to Rosaline, 'the 'follow an imm' idea?'

Rosaline nods solemnly.

Cirus beams at Masha delightedly.

Chaykin smiles at Lenore.

Rosaline says, 'no, my winnie the pooh idea :P'

Chaykin giggles at Rosaline.

LadyAce says to Rosaline, 'the idea channel...but like I said, I'm not sure it's doable'

Tarquin smiles at Rosaline.

Rosaline nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'too much is on tells and confidential'

LadyAce says, 'or happens on a mailing list or an imm channel'

Rosaline says, 'but with idea there is a word limit of something'

LadyAce says, 'it's not like riding with a cop in a squad car'

LadyAce says, 'then do several sentences separated'

Little-Angel says to Rosaline, 'write it out on postcard or something, mail it to LadyAce?'

Kae says, 'same as all other channels, but you can continue in a second and even third idea :)'

Rosaline says, 'ahhh man'

Kaige says, 'and if you put it in three lines at a time I'm quite able to reconstruct it even if someone else's gets in the middle. =)'

Kaige smiles at Rosaline.

Innkeepers & Asking for Help & Jerks

Tarquin says, 'could innkeepers be made unsnipable? its a trip havin to hunt down the innkeeper every time some fool wants to shoot at him'

Sandra says, 'innkeepers are unsnipable'

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Tarquin.

Little-Angel says to Sandra, 'then why is Tara keeper 3 north of well?'

Kae says, 'I think Tarquin means rooted'

Tarquin says, 'aegnus is in SaIf's cottage'

Kae says, 'so that you can't move 'em with a gun'

Masha comforts Cirus.

Sandra says, 'shoot != snipe :)'

LadyAce says, 'we can't make them unmoveable with a gun'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Tarquin nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'otherwise people would camp outside the door and shoot at them'

Cirus smiles happily.

Chaykin says to Straussy, 'never mind that you're totally right ;)'

Tarquin nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'like shooting whales in an ocean or somethin :)'

Tarquin says, 'good point'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'is there a way to make them recall back to their main room then? afte say 10 ticks or so?'

LadyAce says, 'you could always go to the inns where you don't need a keeper to rent'

Chaykin says, 'I kinda think all the hometowns should be like that'

Tarquin nods solemnly.

Tarquin says, 'my thought excatly'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'easier said then done for a newbie who is just logging on and doesnt know where to find them'

LadyAce says, 'well...there is a level where I'm sympathetic...and one where we can only make life *so* easy.'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'you have low lvl newbies, who cant hunt, and dont know where the extra inns are..and some who need to go quickly for personal RL reason'

Masha nods her agreement with Lenore.

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'I'm just suggesting a recall act for the keepers after so many rounds of being out of their room'

Straussy says, 'you cant be that dependant on hunt tho'

Kae'd rather see a flag where the person shooting an innkeeper would be denied access to rent at that inn in the future. But then, she's mean like that.

LadyAce says, 'if we make life too easy on newbies, you guys won't feel you have to help them :P'

Ea! says to Lenore, 'Most newbies are happy to ask others for help. It helps build community, particularly with new players.'

Kaige giggles at Kae.

Little-Angel says to Kae, 'I dont think that's all that mean'

Rusalka whistles appreciatively.

Masha nods her agreement with Kae.

Tarquin chuckles politely at Kae's feeble witticism.

Straussy says, 'newbies already have it too easy :P'

Ea! says, 'That's why places like the Bog exist.'

Rusalka says, 'no reason whey we can't do that in our areas'

Tarquin says to Kae, 'good idea hehe'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Straussy.

Kae says, 'the bog, my customs office...'

Kaige says to Kae, 'needs a little code support behind it tho'

Sasha swears at Kae's stupidity.

Sasha says to Kae, 'I hate the customs office'

Sasha throws her head back and cackles with insane glee!

Kae tickles Sasha.

Rusalka giggles at Sasha.

Chaykin says, 'we need vorpal squirrels back'

Straussy says, 'heh i think i left my old gameboy in the bog..'

Little-Angel says, 'I'm not saying make this to easy, I'm saying make this fair, and easy on EVERYONE, I have had to go LD because I couldnt get to an INN because I couldnt find the keepers left alive, the rest were killed and I was over rent, and couldn't check'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'precommand wouldn't do it?'

Cirus knocks Chaykin over and flops all over him.

Sasha says, 'so drop something'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'it'd keep everyone from renting'

Kaige pokes Ea! in the ribs.

Tarquin says, 'type save that'll check'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'Check the lack of a pcflag first.'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'ah, so we need a "resume normal operation"'

Ea! says, 'Oh, right, we still need that.'

Ea! giggles.

Little-Angel says to Tarquin, 'but not how much you are over rent by'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Little-Angel.

Kaige saysTobias grins evilly.

Ea! bonks himself on the head and looks sheepish.

Masha smiles at Cirus.

Kaige says to Ea!, 'You can actually tell the precommand act to fire or not now?'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'Yeah, yeah... I'll have to get on that one.'

Kaige smiles at Ea!.

Chaykin sniffs sadly.

Ea! says to Little-Angel, 'Did you try asking someone for help with finding a different inn?'

Little-Angel says to Ea!, 'one day, I was trying to help a newbie who had to rent, we tried tara, rb, ithaca, agrabah, all keepers where dead or moved and neither of us had hunt..the newbie had to go NOW because of work reasons and was over rent and didnt know by how much or what to drop..'

Little-Angel says to Ea!, 'that newbie had to drop eq, and drop link, but game back into the game later totally naked and dead, somehow killed'

Ea! says to Little-Angel, 'Well, at that point, you've got to either ask other people online or have them drop something that you know is high rent...'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Little-Angel.

Straussy says, 'I see a problem with that scenario personally'

Sandra says, 'well, one thing to remember is that each era has an immortal innkeeper'

Little-Angel says to Ea!, 'we were running around trying to find the Inns for rent.'

Kae notes that there are "innkeeper-less" inns in Ancient, but not everyone would know that.

Little-Angel says, 'not everyone does know that, or where they are'

Kae says, 'as I said :)'

Tobias talks on the phone some more...

Masha says, 'i think i know of one'

Tobias grumbles.

Little-Angel says, 'I barely remember my way to the one near Tamakhet..I usually find it by luck'

Masha says to Kae, 'isn't the Falcon Inn one of those?'

Ea! says, 'As long as one person online knows, that should be sufficient most of the time.'

Kae kinda can't answer that :)

Straussy says to Lenore, 'you'll never learn with hunt ;)'

Masha smiles at Kae.

Straussy says, 'whoops'

Lenore giggles.

Straussy blushes bright red.

Little-Angel giggles at Straussy.

Kae says, 'but yeah, depending on hunt is suicidal'

Straussy nods his agreement with Kae.

Little-Angel says to Straussy, 'I dont use hunt often, except in industrial'

Cirus comforts Straussy.

Straussy says, 'then you'll learn the mud in no time'

Marcel can't hunt his way out of a paperbag anyway.

LadyAce never had the stats for it.

Straussy says, 'not when its on your head ;)'

Mitra giggles at Marcel.

Masha smiles at Cirus.

Little-Angel says to Straussy, 'not always, I know some who have been here years and still cant find agrabah-tara'

Straussy chuckles politely.

Straussy says, 'well'

Chaykin says to Little-Angel, 'that's pathetic'

Chaykin snorts derisively.

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Chaykin.

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'well, but why make it too easy for them to get along? :P'

Little-Angel says to Chaykin, 'but true'

Tarquin says, 'crusty is higher lvl then me and i had to take him to london'

Sandra says, 'I saw someone the other day that's been here about 4 years, ask where to get silver boots'

LadyAce says, 'did you laugh at him? :P'

Straussy says, 'hey if you hunt everywhere you dont need to know... but that leaves you ignorant as all get out'

Chaykin laughs with amusement.

Chaykin says to Sandra, 'I saw that'

Mitra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'you should laugh at people like that, they deserve it.'

Mitra says, 'of course, I still need help in the new areas'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'how is helping people get out of here, and keeping their hard earned eq wrong?'

Mitra blushes bright red.

Sandra says, 'I think that we should be allowed to set those people back to level 1 =P'

Little-Angel giggles at Sandra.

Kae says, 'not knowing everything like the back of your hand is not the same as being clueless'

Straussy cringes in terror.

Little-Angel says to Sandra, 'I know a few IMM's who'd be reset then too '

Tarquin chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

Ea! says to Little-Angel, 'No one's saying it's wrong. It's just that there are times that you need to know to ask for help.'

Kae says, 'And of course that also means that the rest of us should be ready to help.'

Tarquin says, 'im too good to ask for heal hehe J/k'

Straussy nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'If you're helping a newbie and can't find a place for them to rent, it's time to hit chat.'

Little-Angel says to Ea!, 'true, but some people are to afraid to ask, because they get treated like total crap for it'

Masha smiles at Genocide.

Straussy nods his agreement with Little-Angel.

Genocide pats a pair of playful ferrets affectionately.

Tarquin bows before Genocide.

Straussy says, 'thats sad too'

Kaige says, 'so everyone else should jump on the people treating people like crap'

Kaige rolls her eyes heavenward.

Genocide flourishes grandly.

Chaykin nods his agreement with Kaige.

Little-Angel says to Ea!, 'I have seen newbies as plain perfectly honest questions and be told outright "you're an idiot" and such by other players'

LadyAce says, 'There's a level where people have to just be strong :P no one is paid to help them, or even to be nice.'

Kae nods solemnly.

Kae jumps up and down.

Chaykin says, 'it's kinda up to all of us to stop that kinda behavior, not the imms'

Chaykin shrugs philosophically.

Ea! says, 'If you get treated like crap for asking people where a new player can rent as they need to leave immediately, let one of us imm-types know.'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Little-Angel.

Little-Angel says to Kaige, 'some have, and then get ridiculed and slandered for it all over the place'

LadyAce says, 'sometimes people are mean to each other, there's no insulating newbies for that.'

Genocide says to Kaige, 'I see newbies getting dogged all of the time'

Kae says, 'ready to help, good, but not obligated to get levels, eq, and whatnot'

Kaige nods her agreement with Genocide.

Masha nods her agreement with Genocide.

Sasha says, 'didn't someone have to start USL or be sitebanned cause they got newbies killed?'

LadyAce says, 'if you're fighting the good fight, who cares if people make fun of you? :P'

Kae says to Sasha, 'nope'

LadyAce says, 'not USL...NPH.'

Sandra says, 'not USL'

Kaige says, 'me too and I usually drop a tell when I can and either distract or whap'

Tarquin says, 'i like to help newbies cuz i always wanted someone to help me when i first started'

Cirus pouts.

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'alot of people, when they are slammed so hard they cant even log in with out being harrassed'

Sasha says, 'I mean NPH'

LadyAce says, 'wasn't actually for getting newbies killed, either.'

Genocide says, 'a lot of people helped me out in the beginning and I feel iit is right to do the same'

Straussy says, 'Speaking of NPH... you dont have to join the clan to being able to help newbies...'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'well, if it's harassment, they must've reported it to some imm other than me.'

Marcel likes to hang with and help people who give him IC reason to do so.

Tarquin nods his agreement with Genocide.

Genocide snickers at Marcel nastily.

Marcel says to Genocide, 'that's NOT you :P'

Genocide rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Kaige says, 'fostering the pass it forward idea is a good one'

Genocide raises his eyebrow at Kaige.

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'I've seen alot of reports attempted, and the players told tough'

Genocide says to Kaige, 'the pass it forward idea?'

Kaige says, 'Even doing things like... asking people to get you something in return that's within their abilities to get for what you do for them is good too'

LadyAce says, 'On the one hand, guys, it disturbs me to see people mistreated, and on the other, it disturbs me to see people not use the resources at their disposal.'

Tarquin nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says to Genocide, 'If someone does you a favor, a good way to replay them is by helping someone else when you can'

Ea! says, 'Most harassment cases end up with warnings if not more. It doesn't mean that the warning is broadcast loudly on the mud.'

Marcel says, 'I think it's fair to ask of people they present you with an RP attempt to get help personally.'

Kaige says to Genocide, 'passing the favor forward'

Genocide says to LadyAce, 'if they know not what the resources are, how can they use them lest they ask?'

Mitra nods solemnly.

Genocide nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'exactly.. this isn't a single player game'

Chaykin says, 'there are two sides to it, some oldbies are very rude, and some newbies. I saw one newbie beg for healing, a healer helped them out, and then the newbie punched them and left'

Kaige says, 'with it comes both sides of the sword.'

LadyAce says to Genocide, 'if they don't know the resources, they *should* ask...not sure what you mean....'

Marcel nods his agreement with Chaykin.

Mitra says, 'i've veen with some very rude newbies'

Mitra shrugs helplessly.

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Straussy says, 'was one'

Sasha nods her agreement with Mitra.

Ea! says, 'I've been with hellish newbies.'

Genocide says to LadyAce, 'Exactly but when they do ask they get dogged for not knowing'

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Straussy.

Kaige says, 'I'd make sure that it was known that that newbie had been so rude and encourage others to blacklist them too, until they mended their ways'

LadyAce says, 'and there's a level where being *too* nice creates rude newbies who expect the world, and players who can't help themselves.'

Marcel's pretty tired of those newbies who ask you for a small favor, then presume you'll get them the world on a silver platter.

Ea! says to Straussy, 'You were no where *near* the worst.'

Tobias says, 'I've really not had many problems with newbies...'

Mitra says to Straussy, 'i extremely doubt you were as bad :)'

Tarquin says, 'but none of us can make the Newbies and the oldbies be nicer'

Tobias says, 'They've all been mostly polite and such.'

Straussy frowns.

Marcel says to Tobias, 'lucky :)'

Tobias grins evilly.

Kae says, 'we can only improve ourselves.'

Straussy nods solemnly.

Tarquin nods his agreement with Kae.

Sandra pets Straussy lovingly.

Straussy purrs contentedly.

Rusalka giggles at Kae.

Straussy peers at himself myopically.

LadyAce says to Genocide, 'Sure, that happens...what I was saying is that people should defend those newbies. Then Little-Angel said defending newbies gets you harassed. And I said if you get harassed, complain.'

Little-Angel says, 'I've helped alot, most of them are polite, but every often you get a jerk'

Sandra says, 'Straussy was a bad boy'

Graz'zt sits down and rests.

Straussy whistles innocently to himself.

Marcel says to Little-Angel, 'yeah, that's my experience too'

Straussy says, 'gee look at the time'

Genocide looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tarquin says, 'when i complain to a Imm i feel like a snitch'

Sandra giggles at Straussy.

Kaige says to Tobias, 'ok... know someone who's routinely rude to new players without much reason that asks for your help all the time too? Make them be nice to a newbie before yo help them next'

Rusalka says, 'don't'

Kae says to Tarquin, 'that's wrong. '

Kae says to Tarquin, 'we'll let you know if you're bein' silly :)'

Straussy says, 'you know Ive found that you can somewhat tell how a player will respond by their titles...'

LadyAce says, 'well...I don't think it makes you a snitch, but if you don't want to complain about something, you can't expect us to change it or fix it'

Tarquin chuckles politely.

Chaykin says, 'the main thing is, if someone is a jerk to you, just let them know, right there and then, that it's not acceptable to you. Don't accept it, then come to the Q&A and complain, that doesn't really help'

Tobias says to Kaige, 'Hm?'

Tarquin nods solemnly.

Chaykin smiles at Dione.

Kaige nods her agreement with Chaykin.

LadyAce says, 'so if you won't complain about a problem, you pretty much give up your right to be mad at us for not fixing it :P'

Tobias says to Kaige, 'How do I force that? ^_~'

Marcel says, 'or pull an Alexander, recall and leave them to themselves :P'

Dione sits down and rests.

Little-Angel shakes Genocide's hand.

Kaige says, 'exactly... remind them there's another person on the other end of the connection'

Sasha smiles at Dione.

Tobias giggles.

Little-Angel shakes her head.

Straussy says, 'ignoring a jerk does wonders'

Mitra says to Marcel, 'assuming you can recall'

Marcel nods his agreement with Straussy.

Marcel says to Mitra, 'if not, you can ditch and leave :)'

Straussy says, 'to the point where you dont even bother gagging them'

Chaykin says, 'a lot of people have too easy of a time forgetting that these are real people they're dealing with'

LadyAce says, 'if you wanna be a victim of jerks, I can't really stand in your way :P'

Straussy says, 'once they know they've lost your attention it's no longer fun for them so they quit'

Kaige says to Tobias, 'gently but firmly? Don't go get that item for them? What ever. Let them know that we're all here to have a good time, but being rude for no reason doesn't help everyone do that. It affects more than just the newbie bwho was pu'

Straussy nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kae says, 'draw your line in the sand, keep to it, and don't let yourself be bullied around by new, old, or otherbies.'

Mitra says to Straussy, 'some can't take that hint'

Kaige says, 'who was put down.'

Genocide chuckles politely.

Straussy says to Mitra, 'they will '

Chaykin says, 'if they can't take the hint then just walk away'

Straussy says to Mitra, 'if you dont say anything they will end up saying hello? hello?'

Straussy says to Mitra, 'unless thats just me..'

Mitra chuckles politely at Straussy's feeble witticism.

Genocide hates feeling like no one cares.

Mitra says, 'i generally just play the wuss'

Mitra scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Kaige nods her agreement with Genocide.

Straussy jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Mitra!

Genocide says to Mitra, 'heh that is good sometimes'

Marcel says, 'way I see it, it's our player duty to assist the community, but not to let ourselves be abused.'

Graz'zt nods his agreement with Marcel.

Genocide nods his agreement with Marcel.

Little-Angel nods her agreement with Marcel.

Rosaline beams delightedly.

Kaige says, 'But I hear over and over that people care, but I don't often see them doing anything to make it easier for everyone'

Little-Angel blinks at Kaige.

Straussy nods his agreement with Kaige.

Genocide says to Kaige, 'Right'

Little-Angel says to Kaige, 'I've seen a few who do, I've had a few who do help'

Genocide says, 'Okay'

Kaige says to Little-Angel, 'well take for example the issue of immature stuff on chat from two weeks ago.'

Tarquin says, 'genocide helps me all the time hehe'

Tarquin thanks Genocide heartily.

Kaige says, 'everyone wants the imms to deal with it, because one person against them gets ripped to shreds....'

Kaige says, 'that's what I mean about all the people who care jumping in to help if they care'

Kae whapped a few badmouths around today, does that count?

Kaige wasn't talking about helping in the game sense, but the community sense

Genocide says, 'when do you draw the line between honest help and someone being a jerk?'

Little-Angel says to Kaige, 'I saw more then one person try to get them to chill, and just get so beaten back with more of it that it wasnt funny'

Darkness nods her agreement with Kae.

Graz'zt says, 'sometimes its not answering the mayday for help on a CR that is helping, its just saying hello when you arrive'

Graz'zt says, 'or helping someone find there way somewhere once that helps a bunch'

Genocide says, 'when do you draw the line between honest help and someone being a jerk?'

Mitra says, 'patterns'

Mitra says, 'if they ask for everything always, you may have a problem'

Mitra shrugs helplessly.

Graz'zt says, 'ahh, its hard to help community sense me would think'

Mitra says, 'if they never help when you ask for it'

Little-Angel says to Kaige, 'we just in and help, and get verbally abused and made to feel like a pile of goo, what's the sense?'

Chaykin says to Kaige, 'that's just human instinct to be a bystander though. the Genovese phenomenon'

Marcel says, 'I'm an egocentric, I consider it my right to demand an RP response in return for equipment and exp help.'

Genocide says, 'because I have seen people ask for help and are told that they should know just because the person who said that was an "oldbie"'

Genocide says to Marcel, 'you have every right to do so'

Kaige says, 'I believe ladyace said it earlier... why should you stand for being treated like that or stand for seeing OTHERS treated like that in a place where you come to have a good time?'

Darkness says, 'i have tried to get some of my friends playing in RL other the the ones that i sucked in already and they complain about the lack of help and if they asked they got streesed at and made look like fooles'

Genocide says to Kaige, 'Exactly'

Kae'll gladly bite 'em.

Straussy says, 'right'

Mitra says to Marcel, 'how? do you start asking for rp reasong and try to get them to play along>'

Little-Angel says to Kaige, 'because lately, the people who do treat people like that, are out nubmering the people who dont'

Marcel says to Mitra, 'I respond to them IC only'

Tarquin says, 'we all see enough jerks in RL no one wants to come here and see them too'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'I *really* doubt that.'

Mitra ponders that thought

Marcel says to Mitra, 'either they catch up, or they freak out and leave in which case I'm safe'

Tobias nods his agreement with Marcel.

Mitra giggles.

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'I dont'

Mitra nods solemnly.

Chaykin says, 'I don't think they outnumber, I just think they're louder'

LadyAce says to Little-Angel, 'my experience has been that it'll be one or two loud people, and everyone will act like it's a majority'

Kaige nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Genocide says, 'I can probably count on both hands the number of people who genuinely help'

Kae shakes her head.

Genocide says, 'without looking for something in return or have to be a jerk about it when they do'

Kae says, 'LOTS and LOTS of people help, but most don't advertise it.'

Little-Angel says to LadyAce, 'well there sure seems to be, because everyone else is falling in line with that type of attitude because "its accepted"'

Mitra nods solemnly.

Tarquin nods his agreement with Genocide.

Chaykin says to Genocide, 'I don't agree with that'

Mitra fears to

Tobias giggles at Genocide.

Genocide says, 'I have always lived by the golden rule...'

Chaykin says, 'I have so many people I meet who do things for me and when I ask what they charge or if I can return the favor they say forget it, my treat'

Genocide says, 'help those who cannot help themselves'

Tarquin says, 'everyone knows there own certain people who will help them if that need it'

Kaige nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Kaige says to Chaykin, 'I get that too when I mort lately'

Genocide says to Chaykin, 'but where are those people'

Tarquin says, 'atleast i do'

Rosaline says to Kae, 'fun'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Kaige.

Graz'zt says, 'This is sorta funny, I have been absent for almost six months, and this same thing was being discussed then, lead by example and others are destined to fall in line'

Marcel coughs something about it being smart to join a clan as a newbie too, get to know your peers, and get help from 'em...

Little-Angel wrinkles her nose distastefully.

LadyAce says, 'When you're exploring a museum, do you expect other patrons to stop walking through it, and guide you to all the cool exhibits? :P'

Genocide says, 'I tend to think people base they help on their first judgement of a person'

Mitra nods solemnly.

Rosaline says, 'there's an imm that's a 'jerk' meaning he's rude and once treated a question as if i were two'

Tarquin says, 'no ones ever on my clan'

LadyAce says, 'I think Legend is amazingly helpful compared to RL'

Darkness says, 'i help everyone ... but i find that when ever i need help i get poo'p all ... but it doesn't stop me from helping people when i c an'

Tobias says, 'Back! Finally off of that phone!'

Little-Angel says, 'excuse me, I have to go..my room-mate is being a witch'

Little-Angel curtseys gracefully.

Chaykin says to Kaige, 'one of my alts had a piece of eq he wanted, but the price on auction was too high, 45K. So another guy bought it for my alt and gave it to him'

Chaykin says to Kaige, 'I was overwhelmed'

Tobias says to LadyAce, 'If everyone were as helpful in RL as in Legend, I'd take up begging ^_~'

Marcel'd take up world domination.

Rosaline says to Chaykin, 'i have done that before'

Tobias says to LadyAce, 'And probably make a decent living, at that.'

Tarquin smiles at Chaykin.

Tobias grins evilly at Marcel.. wonder what he's thinking...

Chaykin smiles at Rosaline.

Mitra says to Marcel, 'thought you already were'

Darkness chuckles politely at Tobias's feeble witticism.

Graz'zt says, 'hey, I did that the other day, bought something for someone at 45k :)'

Tarquin says to Chaykin, 'i love to do that for people hehe'

Genocide chuckles politely.

Kaige chuckles politely.

Genocide says, 'it will never happen'

Chaykin says, 'see, so there are a lot of helpful people'

Ea! looks up into the sky and ponders.

Mitra nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Graz'zt says, 'the person could not believe that I did not want anything in return'

Graz'zt laughs with amusement.

Mitra says to Chaykin, 'i've had similar experiences to you'

Chaykin giggles at Graz'zt.

Ea! says to Tobias, 'That sounds like a good idea for an RP...'

Kae says, 'lots of helpful people -- many are just afraid to announce it becuase they don't want to get hammered by requests.'

Tobias says to Ea!, 'Hm?'

Graz'zt nods his agreement with Kae.

Chaykin nods his agreement with Kae.

Mitra says, 'so the Tip of the Day is to rp, rp, rp?'

Ea! says to Tobias, 'Begging a lot.'

Genocide sighs loudly.

Kaige says, 'I think the helpful people are more likely to be more helpful to people who seem to appreciate it and are more likely to be helpful to them again for the same reason.. but I'm likely preaching to teh choir here'

Kae says, 'don't want to be seen tooting their own horn, so to speak, either.'

Tobias giggles at Ea!.

Genocide says to Mitra, 'that is not easy for some'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Kae.

Sasha says, 'what I can't stand is players who've had chars for a year or more who whine on chat for help'

Tobias says to Ea!, 'Leper does that, I always give him a sheckel too!'

Marcel says to Mitra, 'that's MY tip :)'

Chaykin says, 'I really think the 'help' issue is really good the way it is. as long as people who are too greedy or selfish or mean are politely put in their place, things are pretty good'

Mitra giggles.

Kae says to Sasha, 'oldbies can need help too, tho'

Graz'zt says, 'HEY, I will let you know that I have been around here for more than 4 years, and I still need help from time to time!!!!!!'

Responses on Ideas?

Graz'zt says, 'heres an off topic question, if you put in an idea, do you get a response back from the imms and if so, how long should you expect to wait for said response?'

LadyAce says to Graz'zt, 'we don't usually get a chance to reply to things individually'

Rusalka says, 'i don't think we could manage to respond'

Graz'zt says, 'ohh, cause I personally would like to know if an idea I placed was good or bad for legend'

LadyAce says to Graz'zt, 'we get a lot each day. If you want to, just ask one of us if we had a chance to look at it'

Graz'zt says, 'okay'

LadyAce says to Graz'zt, 'some of the ideas are "hey, put in a +3 con +2dex schloopitygloopity"'

Kae says to Sasha, 'I roll the lotto, but I don't see what idea won the player the ticket'

Kaige says to Graz'zt, 'I'll reply to things sometimes... but they're usually Hey wouldn't it be cool if we could '

Graz'zt says, 'yeah, those stink, but the idea I had as an alt I thought was pretty good'

Ea! says, 'I look through about 100 ideas a week, plus or minus 20 or 30. It'd take me a long time to respond to things.'

LadyAce says to Sasha, 'the drawing is just based on "Sasha put in 2 ideas this week, Joey put in 3. Put 2 copies of Sasha's name in the hat, and 3 of Joeys''

Graz'zt nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says to Sasha, 'so it's not the particular idea's merits that does it'

Ea! says to Graz'zt, 'Which idea was it?'

Sasha says, 'ah'

Sasha says, 'I thought it was the cooler ideas won'

Sasha throws her head back and cackles with insane glee!

Graz'zt says, 'I understand, just didn't know how many you got'

LadyAce shakes her head in disagreement with Sasha.

Ea! nods his agreement with Graz'zt.

Kae says, 'any useful (not necessarily USED) idea wins a ticket to the lotto.'

Rosaline bounces around.

LadyAce says, 'I need more PR ideas.'

Rosaline goes on an Idea spree.

Graz'zt says, 'ohh, mine was about giving some award for killing mice in tara if your in a home of someones, like heres 5 gold for clearing out the pests type idea'

Kaige says to Graz'zt, 'but replying on 100-400 things a week if they're good/bad is a bit of work... especially since the areas ones go to the individual builders'

LadyAce says, 'I put in people's ideas all the time, and respond, cuz I don't get flooded like everybody else'

Graz'zt says, 'yeah, like I said, never knew how many you acctually get is all :)'

Kaige says, 'and then I know personally a lot of times I'll let an idea sit until I can use it, or make it into something that'll fit with the area'

LadyAce gets like 5 a week. If she is lucky.

Tarquin says, 'like games and such run by the PR imms?'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kae says, 'that too'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'Hey, what's the approximate ratio of coder to builder to admin to pr ideas?'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'pr is small, so's admin usually... builder and coder arusually split the half... depends which is higher tho'

Kae says to Tarquin, 'also atmosphere, comunication, player issues and such'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Kaige.

Rusalka says, 'rp\'

Tarquin says, 'more then just fun and games eh?'

Ea! says to Graz'zt, 'I can't answer that idea from the builders perspective, but from a coding perspective, it'd be real tricky for player owned houses.'

Ea! says, 'As we'd need a method to allow players to give people money for acts like that... it'd be a real pain.'

Graz'zt says to Ea!, 'it was for the houses that have the men with the staffs and sometimes woman, only those houses in tara was what I was thinking of'

Ea! nods his agreement with Graz'zt.

Ea! says, 'Yeah, those are really up to the builder maintaining the area... Rufus in this case. He'll see it in the list of things for tara, I think.'

Graz'zt says, 'if a mouse wonders in and you kill it, the woman or man might say, well thank you for riding me of my pest problem, heres some money or heres some exp or hey, kill ten of em and get a new whois, best tara mouse catcher or something'

LadyAce says to Graz'zt, 'that sounds cool'

What's up with rude Imms?

Rosaline says, 'There is an imm that is always rude, what's up with that? I mean I'm sure there are players that are overly rude but for someone who helps to run the mud it doesn't seem that right'

Tobias says to Rosaline, 'Whatcha mean, always rude?'

Rusalka says, 'sometimes what looks rude is actually tiredness or stress...no real excuse, but..'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Rusalka.

Kae says to Rusalka, 'or language problems'

Kaige says to Rosaline, 'talk to me about who it is and I'll whap them. '

Rusalka nods her agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'or you can talk to their dept head'

LadyAce says, 'Me if they are PR, Ea if they're a coder, Sandra if they're a builder, Dominic or Kaige if they are admin.'

Mobs dying from poison don't give XP?

Dione says, 'how come when a mob dies at the tick from poison and you are in the room, you still don't get xp?'

Ea! says, 'You have to be at risk to get xp for it -- that is, it needs to be fighting you.'

Dione says, 'well I just did 400? damage to it'

Ea! says, 'That's both a policy thing and a code thing -- if the mob's been calmed, it's tricky to tell who was attacking it.'

Dione says, 'it wasn't calmed, I just came back into the room before it went agg again, and it died before I could initiate combat again'

Ea! says, 'I'll try to take a look at it and see if I can figure something out -- I haven't looked in a few years, but my memory is that it wasn't going to be easy.'

Ea! says, 'Hm. I'd have thought you'd get xp for it then.'

Dione shakes her head.

Dione says, 'definately not'

Ea! says, 'was it major poison, or normal?'

Dione says, 'major'

Ea! looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! says, 'I wonder if major poison doesn't call the same code...'

LadyAce says, 'if it was before it growled, that might be part of it?'

Ea! says to Dione, 'Was it moving at the time it died, or just a tick?"'

Dione says to Ea!, 'just a tick, it wasn't moving'

Ea! says to Dione, 'Hm. Looks like you need to be fighting it at least... but I'm not sure why that is. I'll look at seeing if I can find a way to improve the code, but I'm not confident.'

Why Weird Chairs here?

Tobias says, 'What started the tradition of makin weird chairs, anyways?'

Tobias says, 'Did it just kinda happen?'

LadyAce says, 'it's Kaige's thing'

Tobias giggles.

Rosaline says, 'i'd become an imm just to make the cool chairs'

LadyAce says, 'she just started doing it, she's the only one that does it'

LadyAce smiles at Kaige.

Any way to postpone tinyplot start?

Dude says, 'yeah... is there anyway to postpone the tinyplot in order to taylor to the RL obligations of myself?'

Dashiva nods solemnly.

Dashiva cant be here either.

LadyAce comforts Dude.

Dude says, 'didn't think so =P'

LadyAce says to Dude, 'there isn't'

Dude says, 'i have a quiz bowl tourny 3 hours away from my house until like 7pm est =P'

Dashiva says to Dude, 'heh I have a out of state drill meet =('

Tobias says to Dude, 'I gotta miss the tinyplot too.'

Tobias comforts Dude.

Dude says to Tobias, 'our team falls into ruin!'

Tobias nods his agreement with Dude.

Rosaline says, 'I always miss the tinyplots because i work sats'

Dude says to Tobias, 'i heard everyone else was planning something nasty anyways'

Stupid Names

Dude says, 'xxstupidassnamex or some crap is the dumbest thing i've seen so far'

Rosaline says, 'did o-o-o-o get deleted?'

Rosaline laughs with amusement.

Tobias says, 'its 5 o's ^_~'

Rosaline says, 'oh sorry'

Dione has seen enough dumb names to last a lifetime.

LadyAce says, 'half those "awful" names are just some oldbie playin around :P you guys get wayyy too worked up sometimes.'

Chaykin says, 'yeah, not like they'll last'

More on Innkeepers

Durin says, 'I'm kinda new here and was hoping to get an answer to this. Is it intentional that innkeepers cannot let you rent when entranced? Or is it an accident cause it is kinda entertaining.'

LadyAce giggles at Durin.

LadyAce says, 'I think it's intentional.'

Durin says, 'Fun in tara because no innkeepers for miles'

Dione nods her agreement with Ea!.

Durin says, 'and lotsa newbies'

LadyAce says, 'well, you should just wake him up.'

Dude says, 'whats with aengus being locked in someone's house?'

Durin grins evilly.

Marcel says, 'he's not.'

Marcel recalled him.

Dude says, 'why not just make him immortal?'

Dashiva says, 'aengus isnt a it'

Dashiva peers at Marcel, looking him up and down.

Dude says, 'that way ppl can't screw with him?'

LadyAce says, 'Locking innkeepers in houses is actually illegal.'

Dashiva says, 'yea we abused banker mobs that way'

Marcel says, 'he wasn't locked in, someone just gave up on killing him.'

Dude says, 'yeah... but until someone notices it - it still happens'

LadyAce says, 'yup, it does happen.'

Dude says, 'why not make him immortal like the many other innkeepers and important mobs?'

Genocide says to Dude, 'I think that went back to the old pk days'

PR Game Questions

Dione says to LadyAce, 'I have a suggestion for PR. More flag, coupon, token hunts.'

LadyAce smiles at Dione.

Straussy says to Dione, 'how about more games in general?'

Dione says to LadyAce, 'its the only game that the prize doesn't go to the best link'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Tobias says, 'Progress on new recalltag thingy?'

Tobias says, 'We need weird stuff, like warping rooms!'

Durin groans loudly.

Tobias giggles.

Genocide nods his agreement with Tobias.

Dione says, 'hold it in the mirror maze'

LadyAce says to Tobias, 'I'll hafta ask Stile. He's just getting started, it's his first building project.'

Genocide says to Tobias, 'Dts'

Dude says to Tobias, 'that was a comment =P'

Tobias nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Genocide.

Genocide says, 'cool'

Genocide says to LadyAce, 'Stile is redoing recalltag?'

Imm Presence

Sasha says, 'who's perseus and why is he writing an area but is not on the wizlist?'

Ea! says, 'he's inactive at the moment.'

Kaige says, 'he's currently swamped with real life and is inactive'

Sasha says, 'ahh, didn't see him there'

Genocide says, 'I never heard of him in my lfe..'

Sasha says to Genocide, 'me either'

LadyAce says to Genocide, 'he's in a funky timezone'

Magius says, 'I've heard of Perseus before!'

Genocide thoughts imms were supposed to have a presence.

Tobias says to Kae, 'Hey, your cool project isn't on the board!'

Kaige says, 'he lives on the other side of the world.. so his days are likely your nights'

Genocide shrugs helplessly.

Kae says to Tobias, 'as long as it's in my head :)'

LadyAce says to Genocide, 'well, not inactive ones...'

Tobias giggles at Kae.

Dude says, 'where's Oandlig? =P'

Genocide says to LadyAce, 'I meant before they immd'

Dude says, 'he promised a flag hunt then went inactive'

Genocide says to LadyAce, 'It doesn't count afterwards'

Tobias says, 'Yeah, Oandlig needs to show up. There's turnips in the stag, and taunting to be done!'

LadyAce says to Genocide, 'Well, that's when the 'other side of the world' thing comes in.'

LadyAce says to Genocide, 'when he was active as a player, he was on quite a bit, but on his timezone perhaps not yours.'

Kae lives on the other side of the planet too, meeting US hours can be, um, bad.

Genocide nods his agreement with Kae.

Soze nods his agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'Oandlig is a little busy because of the revolution in his country'

Tobias says to Kae, 'Don't you live in europe?'

LadyAce says, 'it rather distracts from him being online.'

Kae says to Tobias, 'yeah, denmark'

Tobias says to Kae, 'That's 7 hours, right?'

Kae nods solemnly.

Tobias nods solemnly.

Soze says to Kae, 'we should request they move the Q&A's to our timezones'

Soze nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Kae says, 'seven ahead of system, it's 4 am'

Kaige comforts Kae.

Kaige comforts Soze.

Kae says to Soze, 'they were once'

Tobias says, 'I have partners in an online web design thingy that are 13 hours ahead of me.'

Tobias says, 'That's a real pain.'

Kae says to Soze, 'but no one showed up at the monthly "european" q/a'

Soze says to Kae, 'I did'

Kae says to Soze, 'well, except you and me :)'

LadyAce says, 'I think a non-US timezone q & a works best when there's a specific topic'

Allan-a-dale Repop?

Chaykin says, 'I would like to ask that you consider either increasing the repop time on allan-a-dale, or making him load his lyre more often. It's another example of a too-long quest like I mentioned several weeks ago...'

Chaykin says, '...you're doing the stat quest, moving right along, when suddenly you get to wait four mud days to finish it'

Kaige says to Chaykin, 'I'll look at it.. but it's really a case of someone adding a quest onto a mob that already had a quest and not taking into consideration things like that mob had a reset like that for another reason'

Genocide says to Kae, 'I live in the us and meeting our time zones is bad'

Chaykin says to Kaige, 'thanks.'

Learning Sing

Durin says, 'is there any other way to learn sing, other than the paris operahouse quest? I could learn it now but I doubt i could complete the quest.'

Durin says, 'what with having to kill the conductor and all'

Dashiva glances at Durin and begins to twitch nervously.

Dashiva falls over twithing and frothing as game info is given out.

LadyAce says, 'well, I can't really tell you that...'

Durin says, 'ok I'm just curious as to whether there's a way I could learn the skill without the aid of about 3 level 50s'

LadyAce says to Durin, 'You should ask around.'

LadyAce says, 'we try to be sensible... a low-level skill usually has an easy way to get it.'

Dancing while sitting?

Durin says, 'also how come i can dance while sitting down?'

Durin stands on his tip-toes and does a Snoopy-like dance of joy!

Kaige says to Durin, 'socials don't ahve position checks on them'

Durin says, 'cool'

Kudos on Rudh Quest

Dione says, 'comment. I did the new Rudh quest last night and it was possibly the best quest I've ever done on legend. No waiting around, well not for very long, and the story was great'

Gavvius chuckles politely at Dione's feeble witticism.

Dione says, 'kudos to whomever wrote it'

Sandra smiles happily.

LadyAce points at Sandra.

Dione applauds Sandra's quick thinking and good judgment.

Sandra scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce says, 'she even got an expie for it!'

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce pets Sandra lovingly.

Gavvius says, 'Hated getting that claw however'

Sandra says, 'yea, well we had to put a little bit of evilness into it. Kaige helped =P'

Dione says, 'mrti wasn't bad either, except for having to wait in croakerland as usual'

Why level req on PD?

Tarquin says, 'Why are there level restrictions on PD now?'

Sandra says, 'so people can actually do something for themselves for a bit =P'

Tarquin nods his agreement with Sandra.

Marcel snickers softly.

Durin says, '(Newbie question) What's PD?'

Kae says, 'it's an area -- Pirates Den'

Tarquin says, 'pirate's den'

Durin says, 'ah, thanks'

Using Lock Picks

Jelly says, 'can a person without the skill pick lock use lock picks?'

LadyAce says to Jelly, 'youd' hafta try them and see'

LadyAce says, 'some tools let you use 'em without skill, some don't'

How hard is it to get into LoP?

Delandel says, 'How hard is it to become a Legend of the Past?'

Dashiva snickers softly.

Sandra says, 'very'

Kae says, 'relatively'

LadyAce says, 'did you read help LoP?'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Dashiva says to Delandel, 'do you want the biased or non biased version?'

Delandel says, 'ah'

Dun says, 'yeah daer was cool'

Mertjai says, 'it'd be a good idea to be a legend, to try to become a legend, I'd imagine.'

Delandel says, 'non-biased'

Dashiva nods solemnly.

Dashiva says, 'you have to work hard, rp, and um be famous'

LadyAce says, 'it's kinda like asking us is it hard to become an imm...'

LadyAce says, 'if you're a good candidate, it's easy. if you're not, it's hard.'

Delandel says to LadyAce, 'but what if you just want to leave a mark'

Dashiva nods his agreement with Sandra.

Kae got a mort rejected too.

Delandel says to LadyAce, 'is there no other way to be permanently recorded?'

LadyAce says to Delandel, 'you can be listed if you get an expie, name on a trophie'

Kaige says to Delandel, 'game, no, on the web pages definitely. '

Delandel says, 'not even a lvl 1 mob?'

LadyAce says, 'as for pk... mostly people derive things from the log pages. "websites" lists the sites we have listed'

LadyAce says, 'also there's some things in old LTs'

Dashiva says, 'nats page'

Marcel recommends learning by running.

Mitra chuckles politely.

Mitra giggles.

Obligatory Skilltrees Question

West says, 'anyone ask about skill trees yet? :P'

West ducks to the ground.

LadyAce pats West on the head.

Kaige points to the answer in the last several logs on the webpage.

West nods his agreement with Kaige.

West says, 'went through every q&a on the webpage. Skilltrees showed up 1 out of every 3 or so'

Kaige nods her agreement with West.

Rusalka says, 'yepperdep'

Can Prize Machine Autosave?

Dun says, 'lets say you have a token, and use it in the machine...the mud crashes after you get the string...why is it you dont have either the token or the string, shouldn't you have one or the other?'

Rusalka says, 'that is a good question'

LadyAce says, 'depends on when you save.'

Mertjai says, 'normally i end up with the token after a crash like that.'

Ea! nods his agreement with Mertjai.

Ea! says, 'Normally you should have one or the other.'

Dun says, 'yeah I know I should have saved, but the machine should auto save'

Sandra says, 'you autosaved in between, you didn't save after you got the token, etc etc'

Dun says, 'it happened RIGHTTTTTTTTTT after I used it'

Ea! says, 'Some particularly bad crashes might do something wierd, though.'

Mertjai says, 'afterall crashes are unpredictable.'

Ea! says, 'Or if it was a clean crash caused by the prize machine.'

Dun says, 'thats not fair, you should put a save in after you get the string'

Dashiva reads a small piece of paper from Dashiva.

Sandra says, 'heh no =P Then people would bitch if it put them over rent'

Dun says, 'Others shouldn't be riped of like I was!!!'

LadyAce says, 'it's pretty easy to type save'

Dun says, 'strings dont have rent..cept for that baseball that one time'

Kaige says to Dun, 'do you use a client?'

Dun says to LadyAce, 'oh my god, it crashed RIGHT after I got it, it wasnt like 3 hours after.'

Mertjai says, 'put token machine'

Mertjai says, 'kick machine'

Mertjai says, 'get prize'

Mertjai says, 'save'

Mertjai says, 'hmm doesn't take em three hours tos ave'

Dun says, 'thanks for all the smart ass remarks'

Mertjai says, 'noo problem'

Dun says, '"why dont you save" No crap.'

Dashiva snickers softly.

Dun says, 'but if you actually read what I typed, I said it crashed right after I had gotten the string. I didnt have the chance to save.'

Ea! says to Dun, 'it was probably the prize machine then, in which case there's nothing we could have done.'

LadyAce says, 'I heard about this happening to someone earlier, but they had had long enough to show the string to other people, wasn't right away'

LadyAce says, 'I think we're pretty much done unless other people have questions.'

West says, 'I guess this concludes tonight's q&a session..'

Marcel giggles.

LadyAce nods her agreement with West.

LadyAce smiles happily.

West waves happily.

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

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