October 5th, 2000

Chance of Dodging Backstab

'Sounds possible to me,' LadyAce says to Craven.

Craven throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Going OOC From Housing

LadyAce says, 'The OOC change is actually not related to pk.'

Sandra says, 'Its related to the fact that we kept wanting to do that, but never did!'

'Yes, but it's not like people can run from something in their own clan hall,' Fatale says.

'The OOC change is actually not related to pk, they're a change to the way OOC works as an entity in the game. Not as easy body storage....' LadyAce says.

'What change is this, one that is coming, or already happened?' Tritoch says.

Fatale says, 'I don't want to store my body, i want to be able to go ooc and listen to the q&a without walking across half a continent.'

'Already,' LadyAce says to Tritoch.

Fatale says, 'People can just store their bodies in their clan halls instead of going ooc.'

LadyAce says, 'Yeah, I'm sympathetic to that...some people have suggested Q & A should be on a channel and that's it.'

Fatale says, 'It's not like there's anything to store, you can't go ooc with about 90 percent of spells.'

'Entering OOC from anyplace you can rent seems reasonable to me,' LadyAce says.

Fatale says, 'I can rent in my clan hall.'

'Regardless of what happens to Q & A, it's a good idea,' LadyAce says.

LadyAce says to Fatale, 'Suggest it on idea?'

'I don't like the idea of letting pkers go ooc from their clan halls, abuse and crap, it's just annoying to penalize people who don't pk, and it's not like there's any houses in sl,' Fatale says.

Fatale says to LadyAce, 'I have about four times :/.'

LadyAce says, 'Well, pkers can wait out the tick timer, seems like.'

LadyAce says, 'I would guess that it's up to Kaige.'

Timers & Safe Rooms

Craven says, 'Yea, its an annoyance I deal with but feel is worth it.'

Sandra says, 'Let's remove safe rooms!'

'You're evil,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Sandra.

'I actually totally agree,' Lord Danar says to Sandra.

A mermaid trapped in human form giggles at Sandra.

Sandra nods her agreement with Fuego Inferno.

Craven says, 'Danar...you agree because you don't pk.'

Fuego Inferno snickers softly.

Kunnar looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kunnar nods his agreement with Sandra.

Lord Danar says, 'No :b.'

Sandra giggles.

Craven says, 'Yes.'

'I agree because I don't like them,' Lord Danar says.

'Because the few times you do pk people are in them :P,' Craven says.

'Safe rooms are evil,' Kunnar says. 'They make me think i'm safe so I go afk.'

Lord Danar says, 'Shut up, Craven :b.'

Kunnar shudders.

'Well, at the moment I was joking, I didn't wanna start this argument,' Sandra says. '=P.'

Craven throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Lord Danar says, 'I never liked them :b.'

'I outsmarted the imm!' Craven says.

Craven says, 'The one with books for strings even!'

'Oh?' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Lord Danar. 'Then why are you always in em? :P.'

Kunnar jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Craven!

Craven cheers for himself since no one else has.

Lord Danar snickers softly.

'Peer pressure,' Lord Danar says to Fuego Inferno.

'I don't like safe rooms, because it makes pk'ers and nons hang out in different areas and widens the schism,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, mischievously.

Fuego Inferno snickers at Lord Danar nastily.

'I don't think we're likely to change that one, really,' LadyAce says to Tritoch. 'Lots of potential for abuse.'

'Just like Tritoch said, I get lonely with nobody to talk to,' Lord Danar says.

'Well, I feel safe rooms are good but bad at the same time...' Craven says.

Tritoch flops about helplessly.

Sandra says, 'Say say say.'

Craven says, 'In a way it promotes pk interaction.'

'We heard,' Shane says.

Craven says, 'I was there talking with witold/jamaciaman/galron before I came here.'

'But I never get to hang out with youuuuu,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, mischievously, to Craven.

'Yeah, that's the trouble I have with them too,' LadyAce says to a mermaid trapped in human form. 'They're a great pk community builder but don't incorporate npkers.'

'So come to the safe room,' Craven says.

Craven says, 'What do you care about tick timers :P.'

Tritoch says to Craven, 'And if you had a timer, you wouldnt be able to get here after talkin to me, which is annoying as hell.'

Tritoch whines.

'Then I hide in the inn, hehe,' Craven says.

Craven says, 'Few people run around with detect hidden.'

'Cept skar :P,' Craven says.

'It's hard to intentionally build nonpk hangouts, pretty easy to build pk ones,' LadyAce says to a mermaid trapped in human form.

LadyAce says, 'Which is why it'd suck to pull them, our cheap community strategy poofs.'

'One thing, i'd be afraid of is that more people would run to their houses if we took out safe rooms and never talk to people,' Kunnar says.

Tritoch says, 'My nonpks always hangout in the altar, but i guess thats cause im nutz.'

'Well, lots of nonpk hang out in inns,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin. 'There's nice food to buy, boards to read.'

'I socialize on chat :P,' Craven says.

Craven says, 'Screw this in person crap!'

'Make the stag a safe room everyone will hang out there!' Doctor Mertjai says.

LadyAce nods in agreement with a mermaid trapped in human form.

LadyAce says to a mermaid trapped in human form, 'Yeah, and inns would make bad saferooms :(.'

'I think safe room removal in the future could be interesting, but for now I don't think its a good idea,' Craven says.

'Maybe when we have pets in houses and locks suck :),' Craven says.

Sandra says, 'I have other, more evil plans first!'

FIGHTTYPE_NONE

Lord Danar says, 'You see no combat messages.'

Doctor Mertjai says, 'Bars and magical protection to up the str/phase rejection.'

Lord Danar says, 'Your hp just goes down for no apparent reason.'

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief, 'So you wouldn't even know there's a battle going on?'

A mermaid trapped in human form shudders.

LadyAce says, 'It's more to decrease spam.'

'I go around with fighttype none.. I enjoy it so I can see other things happening,' Doctor Mertjai says to a mermaid trapped in human form.

'We need a fighttype that shows "X slashes Y. Y pierces X."' a mermaid trapped in human form says, mischievously.

'Anyway, so you want fighttype simple,' Lord Danar says.

LadyAce says to a mermaid trapped in human form, 'The trouble with that is it really lacks depth.'

A mermaid trapped in human form nods her agreement with Lord Danar.

'They don't need to know how often people are hitting or how hard,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin. 'Just who bit who.'

Doctor Mertjai nods her agreement with a mermaid trapped in human form.

Doctor Mertjai says, 'Handy knowing how's getting hit.'

'I think the fighttype none should just show your interaction in the fight and the mob/person thats hitting you,' Shane says.

LadyAce says, 'I'm not opposed to making different messages, I just don't want to see us change things so people don't have to pay attention.'

'I dunno, we could replace fighttype compact with something like that,' Ea! says.

Lord Danar says, 'People like fighttype compact.'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Ea!'s head.

'I think it's part of the skill of fighting to know your own hp, the enemies, your groups, etc,' LadyAce says.

'Or add a fighttype simple, like Danar suggested,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin.

'Yeah, but we don't :),' LadyAce says to Lord Danar.

'Oh,' Lord Danar says.

Lord Danar says, 'Okay then.'

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, 'Why dont we like fighttype compact?'

Lord Danar says, 'Let's get rid of it.'

Sandra says, 'Let's pull 'em all and go back to how it was!'

'Stand up for yourself!' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Lord Danar. ':P.'

Sandra offers easy solutions tonight.

Doctor Mertjai smiles at Sandra.

'If you want fighting people to pay attention, what about an observer fighttype?' Kunnar says.

LadyAce says to Fuego Inferno, 'Cuz it gets us all these complaints of "I only slash hard when I usually decimate" etc.'

'I like fighttype verbose actually, when I'm alone,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, mischievously.

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'People ascribing too much to the exact messages and the range of damage they do and that they think they do....'

'I just like knowing who's getting hit so I can heal them, without getting overly spammed,' Doctor Mertjai says.

Lord Danar says, 'Yeah, people don't understand the scale.'

LadyAce says, 'We understand the numbers-focused people have fun that way, but it's not the way we want the whole game to be.'

'So lets make it fighttype none so that we can trick em?' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to LadyAce. ':P.'

LadyAce says, 'Might as well read the box scores instead of watching the baseball game.'

LadyAce shrugs.

'I think we should change fighttype compact one day to throw people off, and have it all say "You pierce $N a few times" or something,' Sandra says.

Lord Danar says, 'We should just randomly change around combat messages.'

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief, to Sandra, 'Or switch around the messages.'

Craven says, 'I think you should make fight messages maybe like warcry.' 'People might be interested then,' Craven says.

'Its NOT like looking at the boxscore instead of the game,' Craven says.

Craven says, 'Because the game never changes.'

'Technically, shouldn't obliterate be more than decimate?' a mermaid trapped in human form says, mischievously.

'There's no variety,' Craven says.

'Technically, a decimate should always do exactly a tenth of your current hit points,' Lord Danar says to a mermaid trapped in human form.

'You mean like where we can set our own?' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin, to Craven.

Shane says, 'Anyone with such a small brain i guess would think him funny.'

'Since I don't remember my question thats my piece on the fighttype thing,' Craven says.

'Sorta,' Craven says.

A mermaid trapped in human form nods her agreement with Lord Danar.

'If we were to do that, players would start making messages like "You're barely scratched by Craven" to make it look like it was a bad hit when it was a nasty hit,' Ea! says to Craven.

Craven says, 'Maybe you could set 3.'

LadyAce says to Craven, 'Yeah, I understand your point there.'

Craven says, 'Low, medium, and high hit.'

Craven says, 'Fine.'

Ea! says, 'To confuse people.'

Craven says, 'Maybe make a ton of choose from.'

Craven says, 'And people can use those.'

Ea! says, 'What I'd love to do is make it interact with moods.'

'Or they are like strings,' Craven says.

Craven says, 'And we need them approved.'

'That would be really cool,' Lord Danar says to Ea!.

Lord Danar says to Ea!, 'And very hard.'

Craven says, 'Like descriptions more than strings.'

A mermaid trapped in human form nearly sends you to the grave with her miraculous splash!

'$N slashes you in anger, causing blood to pour!' Ea! says.

Ea! says to Lord Danar, 'Yeah...'

'If sammael could make it look like he was doing cool sword moves to kick your ass, i wouldn't care what the message said :),' Craven says.

'With brows knit by angst, $N sticks his sword in your eye,' Lord Danar says.

Hp nods his agreement with Craven.

Craven says, 'To see I debone you 900 times, I don't care.'

'Don't we already have enough people disgruntled that there aren't imms there to answer their requests in 60 seconds...' LadyAce says to Craven.

Craven says, 'Specially since the other guy can debone me.'

'"Lollipop in one hand, $N takes his dagger and slices at your arm!"' Sandra says.

'I don't know, I rarely get descriptions,' Craven says to LadyAce.

Sandra throws her head back and cackles with insane glee!

'Registering moods would be irritating,' LadyAce says.

LadyAce says, 'PRs have enough work to do as it is I'm afraid.'

Lord Danar says, 'That's what idea is for.'

'Last time I got a description it wasn't that bad,' Craven says.

'Theres an idea,' Craven says.

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin, 'Ooo, a different attack message with each mood.'

'Yeah, we've been wanting to do that one,' LadyAce says to a mermaid trapped in human form.

PR Games?

'Maybe longer,' Craven says.

Lord Danar says, 'I ran a game yesterday.'

Fuego Inferno jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Lord Danar!

Lord Danar says, 'Albeit a game it was impossible to win.'

LadyAce says, 'I did a flag hunt yesterday :).'

Craven says, 'Well apperently the 9 hours I play a day no games are played.'

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, 'It wasnt recall tag was it :P.'

LadyAce says, 'I did a casino last month :P.'

LadyAce shrugs.

Craven says, 'Well.'

'You guys know how much I play :P,' Craven says.

Tritoch says to Lord Danar, 'I still aint gived up!'

Craven says, 'For whatever reason, I have never seen a game in a really long time.'

LadyAce says to Craven, 'We've been short on games, I agree.'

Craven says, 'In the last few years I basically rely on xmas for games...'

Hp nods his agreement with Craven.

Hp says, 'Me too.'

KILL and battle delay?

'There's definitely a delay in there, maybe Ea can explain it,' LadyAce says to LordPyro.

'You need better timing,' Lord Danar says. 'Twitch combat forever!'

'If you could order all kill command seperator inspire, pk would suck,' Craven says.

'Okay, here's the deal...' Ea! says.

LordPyro says, 'Well, I'm not asking for it to be that bad.'

Craven says, 'You just said immediate :P.'

Ea! says, 'When I attack you, I start attacking immediately (well, on the next pulse).'

LordPyro says, 'But wimpy is killing the use of charmies on my create mages.'

LadyAce says to LordPyro, 'I don't think I've heard that question before :) good question.'

'All his pkillers are creates, go fig :p,' Tritoch says to Craven.

Ea! says, 'You get set to fighting when I hit you -- not when I attack.'

Ea! says, 'If that makes sense...'

Craven nods his agreement with Ea!.

LordPyro nods his agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says, 'So there's no delay it just looks like it? :).'

'Hm,' Ea! says. 'I'm not sure.'

LordPyro says, 'It just annoys me, because, when someone has wimpy on, I can't inspire.'

'It's a quantization artifact? :),' Signum says deviously.

LadyAce says to Signum, 'Absolutely!'

'It's possible that there's a short delay -- the act of engaging in combat takes a little while,' Ea! says.

'There's a mild lag to killing somebody,' Lord Danar says.

'Like half a round or maybe less,' Lord Danar says.

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief, 'Gotta get your sword out, your armor on..'

LordPyro says, 'Yes, I'd imagine so, but the way it is, I tried for an hour, to inspire someone before the actual round.'

Lord Danar says, 'Hmm, I've definitely seen it done before.'

'Seems like there should be a chance at least, to get the inspire off before the wimpy goes into action,' LadyAce says.

'I know it's possible to order all kill and then inspire before the beginning of the round and catch them,' Lord Danar says.

Sandra's seen it done.

'Well, you start fighting, then they get a pulse, in which they can flee... before you get the chance to inspire,' Ea! says.

Ea! says, 'I think.'

'Take a skill from them, that'll get em :' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to LordPyro.

Lord Danar nods his agreement with Fuego Inferno.

LordPyro nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'Some of the numbers are slightly random to simulate the uncertainties in a melee, which is why it sometimes will get in.'

'If i were to walk in and kick you.. then you dont need to type kill,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to LordPyro.

LordPyro says, 'If someone has both, wimpy max, and detect illusion it's almost impossible, to get a charmie tanking them now.'

'Mmf,' Lord Danar says.

'I don't agree,' Lord Danar says.

Lord Danar says, 'Like he said, wait for them to jump you.'

Ea! says, 'Well, starting tommorow, they can just target you anyway...'

'Then order all kill, inspire them, flee,' Lord Danar says.

'Nope,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Ea!.

'Problem with that is charmies aren't fighters, they are tanks,' Craven says.

Lord Danar says, 'The fleeing is the hard bit :b.'

Ea! says, 'They might not succeed, though.'

'That doesnt work for PK,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Ea!.

'Inspire fails a lot in pk,' Legolas says, voice filled with a quiet sadness.

'At least thats what rufus said,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Ea!.

'I think it would be great if you had a choice, you could make tanks or fighter type charmies, but not both,' Craven says.

'And the skill lag is horrible,' Legolas says, sad and melancholy.

'Didn't Rufus make it so they can't target charmie creators?' LordPyro says.

Ea! looks up into the sky and ponders.

Craven says, 'Kinda like saebels vs dopples.'

LordPyro says, 'He bug fixed it that way on testmud.'

'He made it harder to target them, not impossible,' Ea! says to Lord Danar.

Hp nods his agreement with Craven.

'I think,' Ea! says.

'I hope,' Time says.

'Put it in on idea as something for us to look at/think about?' LadyAce says to LordPyro. 'I don't think we're prepared to look at it right this second.'

'About target...when you say attempt to turn, does that mean it can fail?' Lord Danar says.

'You should at least get a chance to kill the creator,' Time says.

Lord Danar says, 'And if it can fail, can mob targets fail now too?'

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin, 'And what would it be based on?'

'Spirit!' Sandra says.

A mermaid trapped in human form grins evilly.

Kunnar goes ACK TTTHHHHHPPPPPTTTTT! all over Sandra - what a mess!

Sandra doesn't know, really.

Ea! says, 'It looks like targeting works in pk from a quick glance.'

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, 'Prestige?'

LadyAce doesn't know much about target.

'Would be nice if it were spirit,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief.

Ea! says, 'Yes, targetting can fail, and yes, it has skill lag.'

Sandra says, 'I just like to say Spirit when people ask.'

Sandra giggles.

Hp says, 'On zmud i had a aliasis for target.'

'It should work on prestige,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything.

A mermaid trapped in human form models her 17 spirit.

Sandra says, 'Should work on spirit!'

'Typed target fuego and i would just have to do like bs for backstab,' Hp says.

LadyAce says to Fuego Inferno, 'I don't think the two are very related ideas :P.'

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to LadyAce, 'Well if your too upset at life for being a bum, you'd be too lazy to target someone.'

'But without spirit, who says you'd have the will power from above to convince yourself to change targets?' LordPyro says. '=p.'

'Targetting is currently a set chance,' Ea! says. 'I could see it being stat based at some point in the future.'

Why doesn't backstab start the fight?

'Something about stunning removing hatred I think?' LadyAce says.

Craven says, 'Immolate does that too.'

'Only immolate is alot weirder,' Craven says.

Hp nods his agreement with Craven.

'If i were to backstab craven and he had a "recite new" typed in, he can still recall,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything.

Lord Danar says, 'Oh.'

'If You immolate someone at 57 hp and they die, they come back in the game at 57 hp,' Craven says.

Lord Danar says, 'That's true of any special.'

Hp nods his agreement with Craven.

Lord Danar says to Fuego Inferno, 'It's the same as LordPyro's question about kill.'

Lord Danar says, 'The fight hasn't officially started yet.'

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Craven, 'Really?'

Craven nods his agreement with Fuego Inferno.

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Lord Danar, 'Well its a skill.'

'That's totally wack,' Lord Danar says to Craven.

Hp says, 'I like entrance.'

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Lord Danar, 'If i were to kick you in the face, i would say the fight started :P.'

Craven says, 'Immolate has done that for the 5 years that I've been here.'

Lord Danar says, 'You would.'

'Entrance rules,' Time says.

Lord Danar says, 'But I wouldn't till I got up :b.'

Hp says, 'When i had peep i entranced the hell out of folks.'

'See how that works?' Lord Danar says. ':b.'

Hp says, 'Remember that craven?'

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief, 'It's like how mobs don't assist until their friend's start attacking.'

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Lord Danar, 'You arent knocked down :P.'

'And if i kicked you... im pretty sure im not gonna wait for you to hit me,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Lord Danar.

Lord Danar snickers at Fuego Inferno nastily.

Will there be a Halloween Casino Game?

'I haven't decided,' LadyAce says. 'There will definitely be halloween games.'

LadyAce says, 'Pumpkin hunt and Ptah's storytelling.'

'I like casino best,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief.

Time says, 'Maybe trick-or-treating ?'

'Sounds like a fun thing for players to do in their own houses :),' LadyAce says to Time.

LadyAce says, 'I often do a costume contest, those are fun.'

'But nobody visits me,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin.

A mermaid trapped in human form hangs her head.

LadyAce says, 'Thanks for putting in your vote tho :).'

Minimum level for housing?

Legolas says, quite melancholy, to Time, '15.'

'Help house says im not a high enough level to read it,' Time says.

Legolas says, quite melancholy, to Time, 'Try help build =P.'

'Help housing,' Sandra says.

'I know those work :),' Time says.

'That means its an imm command then :P,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything.

'Fine, but it should be there :b,' Lord Danar says to Sandra.

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Sandra, 'Then why cant we read it :P.'

Lord Danar says, 'That confused me forever :b.'

Target and failing?

'Then why cant i read help house,' Time says.

Lord Danar says, 'We should keep parallels whenever possible.'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think mobs use target to make those changes.'

'I know,' Lord Danar says.

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to LadyAce, 'What do they use?'

Lord Danar says, 'But they should act similarly, shouldn't they?'

'They change targets mid round due to aggressiveness,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky.

Lord Danar snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'Getting them to use it would be ooky I think, if builders had to try to do it in acts.'

'Well, I know the retargeting is hard-coded,' Lord Danar says to LadyAce.

'Well if ladyace supplies the candy/treats i dont mind a mud wide trick ortreat,' Shane says.

'But I think it should be changed so that mobs also have a chance to fail target,' Lord Danar says to LadyAce.

'They don't get to choose who they're targetting,' Ea! says to Lord Danar. 'Players do.'

Lord Danar says, 'Mmf.'

Lord Danar says, 'All right.'

Fuego Inferno chuckles politely.

'Good point :P,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything.

'Else they'd all kill the healer!' Sandra says.

'It seems like a nice ideal but I'm not sure it'd be much bang for buck in practice,' LadyAce says.

'Ack!' Time says.

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Sandra, 'Only if you coded it.'

'Oh yeah, that's another thing,' Lord Danar says. 'Mobs should do that :b.'

'Instead of just some of 'em, eh? :),' LadyAce says to Sandra.

'Smart ones do!' LadyAce says to Lord Danar.

Sandra giggles.

'Woo!' Sandra says.

Lord Danar nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra says to Lord Danar, 'Some do.'

'Your acts are frightening,' Lord Danar says to LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'Somebody is making me lag =(.'

'Hibbins is auwful...' Legolas says, quite melancholy. 'Tone it down! =P.'

LordPyro says, 'No, only Sandra's mobs would kill the healer =p.'

Lord Danar says to LadyAce, 'I'm amazed anybody gets through AT.'

'I did ;),' Sandra says to Legolas.

Legolas says, sad and melancholy, to Lord Danar, 'They usually dont.'

'Hibbins wont suck anymore with the new fire change,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful.

Fuego Inferno growls at Sandra. Better leave before the fighting starts!

Sandra grins evilly at Fuego Inferno.. wonder what she's thinking...

'The tank has a 90% chance of dying on AT... why do you think no one ever runs it?' Legolas says, sad and melancholy.

'Woohoo!' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything. 'I cant wait to go home tommorrow :P.'

'The smart tank can make it thru easily,' Sandra says.

'Cuz they don't know how to run it :),' LadyAce says to Legolas.

Lord Danar says, 'Wow, you must be doing it wrong.'

Sandra jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with LadyAce!

Kunnar says, 'All you need in AT is a create mage.'

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Legolas, 'I always thought AT was EEAAAAAASY.'

Kunnar flexes his bulging, impressive muscles.

Legolas says, voice filled with a quiet sadness, 'Yeah... but then the create mage misses the scatter... and everyone's screwed.'

'Sorry, a good create mage,' Kunnar says.

Sandra snickers at Kunnar nastily.

Lord Danar says, 'Human error can get you killed anywhere :b.'

LadyAce says, 'The RNG can get you killed anywhere.'

Lord Danar says, 'That too.'

'Whats a rng?' Tritoch says.

Legolas says, sad and melancholy, 'Yeah... what is/was wrong with str hitting?'

'Oh, hey, that's right,' Ea! says. 'I was going to post on the RNG.'

Lord Danar says, 'I ran a test on the rng a while ago too.'

Fuego Inferno goes EEK! at Legolas in distress - isn't Legolas an awful person for teasing?

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure slips in from the east, looking for someone to hurt.

'But Rufus's was much more thorough,' Lord Danar says.

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief, 'Nothing wrong with my hitting.'

Kunnar thinks, 'what's rng?'

'Oh really?' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to a mermaid trapped in human form.

Tritoch says, 'Stop saying rng till you say what it is damnit.'

Tritoch bonks Lord Danar on the head!

LadyAce says to Legolas, 'It was giving dex 2x the chances to dodge or somethin.'

A mermaid trapped in human form nods her agreement with Fuego Inferno.

'Random number generator,' Lord Danar says.

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to a mermaid trapped in human form, 'I bet i could tank you :P.'

'Random number generator, sorry,' LadyAce says.

'I think it's just a pk thing,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a hint of mischief, to Fuego Inferno.

Legolas says, voice filled with a quiet sadness, 'Has it been changed now?'

'We're working on it,' LadyAce says to Legolas. 'Not sure if we've fixed it at this point.'

'We need the Mersenne Twister,' Lord Danar says. 'I don't know what that does, but it's the coolest-sounding RNG ever.'

'If that's true, why haven't I been dodging?' a mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin.

A mermaid trapped in human form is completely boggled.

HP Items?

Legolas raises his hand.

Sandra says, 'Yes.'

Fuego Inferno chuckles politely at Barabas Bonecrusher's feeble witticism.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'Woo.'

Barabas Bonecrusher says, 'Right now this sniper has more hps than I do I bet.'

LadyAce says to Barabas Bonecrusher, 'We're in discussions on changing that spec as of today, in fact.'

Barabas Bonecrusher pokes Fuego Inferno in the ribs.

Fuego Inferno reports: 428/622 hp 339/339 mana 518/555 mv.

Barabas Bonecrusher reports: 595/595 hp 625/625 mana 615/615 mv.

'Nope, im beat up,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything.

Tritoch laughs with amusement.

LadyAce says, 'Discussions today that is, not changes :).'

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says in a threatening tone, 'That mean making con give more hp? .'

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says menacingly, 'Or just tweaking stat items.'

Craven snickers at Hp nastily.

Tritoch says to LadyAce, 'Just remove it, or make more old crap that everyone will obsess over?'

Legolas laughs with amusement.

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, 'I think there should be a con scale thats higher.'

'Err remove it from pfiles too,' Tritoch says.

'That way we get longer fights,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful.

'Which in a sense, is what we all wanted,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky.

'Item tweaking is the direction right now,' you say. 'Item editing/removal hasn't been discussed, we're still trying to decide what the fix will look like.'

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, 'Right?'

'Long fights just mean less time to make your timer run down,' Tritoch says. Lord Danar says, 'Changing the con scale won't solve the problem.'

'Horseshoes a bit overpowered i think. :),' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says in a threatening tone.

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure gives a quick polish to a black horseshoe. It now shines brightly.

'The problem is bonuses that aren't counted into stat poins,' Lord Danar says.

Lord Danar says, 'Like the horseshoe.'

'I disagree,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Lord Danar.

Craven says, 'Hp are too important in my opinion.'

Craven says, 'I'm wearing +100 hp gear.'

Craven reports: 400/400 hp 419/419 mana 326/354 mv.

'Given, I hve low con,' Craven says.

'Changing spec is necessary to fix the situation,' Lord Danar says.

Barabas Bonecrusher says, 'The other problem, as I believe Dune said, is that Con's advantage is a 1 time thing.'

'But having low con should not guarentee my death on a lucky para or wfw,' Craven says.

'Whereas the other 2 are continuing,' Barabas Bonecrusher says.

'It does though,' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says in a threatening tone to Craven. ':P.'

'I'm not sure what that means,' Lord Danar says to Barabas Bonecrusher.

Sandra raises her eyebrow at Barabas Bonecrusher.

'Everyone has the ability to wear the + hp items,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Lord Danar.

LadyAce says to Lord Danar, 'Str/dex changes a fight.'

LadyAce says, 'Con makes the hp at the start, different.'

'Old good hp items are skull rings, and blackhorseshoe,' Hp says.

'Whereas str and dex change it throughout,' LadyAce says.

'I'm all about hp reform,' Craven says.

Hp says, 'Only even.'

'If 100 con gave ALOT more hps then 80 con... then people would have a reason,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Lord Danar.

'Ah,' Lord Danar says. 'Hmm.'

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure nods his agreement with Fuego Inferno.

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, 'Keep the items as they are and change the hp code once again.'

Time raises his hand.

Lord Danar says, 'I dunno, I still think that changing con without changing the spec will just lead to more powerful items with the same problem eventually.'

Tritoch says to Fuego Inferno, 'Quick loan me money! ;).'

'That's a vicious circle,' Lord Danar says.

A snickering servant of the Faerie King disappears into the void.

'We're definately changing the items,' Sandra says. 'There's no argument about that.'

A snickering servant of the Faerie King has returned from the void.

'I call it the equipment cocktail syndrome,' LadyAce say to Lord Danar.

'Well,' Craven says.

'The +hpitems?' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says in a threatening tone to Sandra.

Craven says, 'I agree items need to be changed.'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Tritoch, 'You want?'

'But I think other things need to be changed,' Craven says.

Lord Danar giggles at LadyAce.

'If you make hp gear suck and I have 300 hp.....' Craven says.

Tritoch says to Fuego Inferno, 'Yeah :p.'

'+5 str is balanced, 20 hp is balance, resist slash is balanced...by themselves,' LadyAce says to Lord Danar. 'On one item...? Nah :P.'

Craven says, 'Wfw's and backstab will be even more powerful.'

Lord Danar nods his agreement with LadyAce.

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says menacingly to Craven, 'Then you gonna have to drop other stats and get some con.'

'Thats the way the system should work,' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says nastily, sneering.

Craven says, 'But I shouldn't have to.'

Craven says, 'You don't have to have 100 strength to be competitive.'

'Why should I have to have high con?' Craven says.

'Well, technically you can't have all 3 of those on 1 item ;),' Sandra says to LadyAce.

Craven says, 'There are mages with 20 strength that win a lot.'

'Dex though... oh boy - if you dont have it... you might as well not even pk,' Legolas says, voice filled with a quiet sadness.

Lord Danar says, 'I'm unhappy with tumble :b.'

LadyAce says to Sandra, 'There are lotsa cocktail items out there :P.'

Tritoch raises his hand.

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra agrees.

'Me me me!' Tritoch says.

'I have chars who pk with 10-20 dex,' LordPyro says.

A mermaid trapped in human form STILL hasn't tumbled a missed bash.

Signum disappears into the void.

A mermaid trapped in human form glares at nothing in particular.

Sandra also feels bad for the next area that goes into review.

'I dont think items are the problem,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky.

'That's all I ever tumbled,' Lord Danar says.

Lord Danar giggles at Sandra.

'The code should be based around the items,' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful.

'Dammit, I've been tricked :b,' Lord Danar says.

Worse for wear and snipes/deadeye?

Craven says, 'No.'

'Um, that's how it was supposed to be,' Sandra says to Tritoch.

'That's how it alawys worked,' Lord Danar says.

Lord Danar ponders Tritoch's existence.

Legolas says, quite melancholy, 'Thats not how it always worked.'

'So umm you people make brain hurt,' Tritoch says.

Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Tritoch, 'Thats what it was supposed to be, but there was a mean bug with deadeye that didnt set the flag on mobs.'

'Dun always flees and keeps going till he gets a snipe,' Tritoch says.

A mermaid trapped in human form nods solemnly.

'Bah i missed another..' Tritoch says.

'Lets delete for bug abuse!' Sandra says. 'Everyone line up to the right please.'

'I shot beowulf tons... with an m-82 on my second shot,' Legolas says, voice filled with a quiet sadness.

Sandra giggles.

'I've seen it happen on the second or third try,' a mermaid trapped in human form says, mischievously.

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin, 'How would deadeye affect it?'

Lord Danar snickers at Sandra nastily.

'Deadeye didn't used to set the flag,' Lord Danar says.

'For some reason,' Lord Danar says.

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Sandra, 'So go watch your shows :P.'

'So you could just do it forever,' Lord Danar says.

Craven shrugs helplessly.

A mermaid trapped in human form says, with a mischievous grin, 'But we're talking about snipe aren't we?'

A mermaid trapped in human form is completely boggled.

'Same thing as deadeye, to all intents and purposes,' Lord Danar says.

'Essentially they are the same thing,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to a mermaid trapped in human form.

Fight Length

Fuego Inferno nods his agreement with Craven.

'In our quest for more damage and stronger characters, we are now so powerful we strike down our foes in a matter of seconds,' Craven says.

'Thats why im saying we should make high con more beneficial,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything, to Craven.

'And keep the items as they are,' Fuego Inferno says, confident to take on anything.

'Won't matter to much i think....' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says in a threatening tone.

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says menacingly, 'Its all about the consistant damage one can dish.'

'Luck doesn't even stand a chance at evening out in the 1 or 2 special fights we have now,' Craven says.

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, 'Yank hp items, and look at craven... he'll be a 300 hp sniper.'

Hp reports: 519/519 hp 463/463 mana 577/577 mv.

'Look at me,' Hp says.

'People would suggest I drop my stats for con,' Craven says.

'You fix the strength stuff, he gets bashed once and he dies,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky.

'I wont report no more bugs :P,' Shane says.

'Just abuse em,' Shane says.

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, 'Thats no fun.'

'In reality thats probably what I would have to do, and probably what I won't. I think if hp gear gets yanked without hp being changed a bit...' Craven says.

'Even with almost 900hps i died,' Hp says.

Craven shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'I agree that high con should probly be more beneficial but I still think the items need some looking at.'

Craven says, 'This character enters retirement.'

A mermaid trapped in human form doesn't know a bug if it bites her on the hiney.

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Craven says, 'I'm all about diversity.'

'Mostly just the combination items, the ones that are +everything,' LadyAce says.

LadyAce shrugs.

Ea! has created a small piece of paper!

'Heh and there goes all dex mages,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky.

Ea! starts writing on a small piece of paper from Ea!.

Craven says, 'And if it turns out you have to have 50 con to withstand a para or wfw....thats not fun.'

'Who here could hack th e hell out of me with a mage or a str fighter when i had near 900hps,' Hp says.

Craven says, 'Sammael could.'

Lord Danar says, 'Sandra cool.'

Craven says, 'He outtanked you 3 times.'

Lord Danar says, 'Sandra could.'

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, 'Me too.'

'I had an easy time in a fight against someone who had like 780hp,' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says nastily, sneering.

Tritoch says to Hp, 'Stunbait!'

A very disturbed, pale-skinned figure shrugs helplessly.

'What did I do?' Sandra says.

'The hard people are 800 hp damcpers,' Craven says.

'I beat Sabu when he has 800 hps,' Lord Danar says.

Hp says, 'Naww.'

'I have 70mind,' Hp says.

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, 'Zaba could... if he had a weapon :P.'

Lord Danar says, 'Mainly becuase he pounded hard all the time :b.'

'Im screwed!' Tritoch says to Hp. ':p.'

'As did i. ,' a very disturbed, pale-skinned figure says nastily, sneering to Lord Danar.

'This is a tough issue,' Craven says.

Hp says, 'I had 60mind 100con 887hps.'

'Hp are definatly a problem, but they could become worse very easily,' Craven says.

Fuego Inferno nods solemnly.

Craven says, 'I don't think just because you have low con you should basicly be able to be id'd.'

Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, 'I just dont want to see another change where i find it hurts more then it helps.'

'You really ARE evil!' Tritoch says.

A mermaid trapped in human form wonders if she can siphon her mana into hp.

Ea! eats a small piece of paper from Ea!.

'Well im thinking of ideas for a company,' Hp says.

'Doh!' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful.

'I'm sure you guys will fix it with an amazing idea I would have never thought of in a million years,' Craven says.

'You tend to do that,' Craven says.

'You mean like pkok craven?' Hp says.

'Let em surprise us they always do,' Shane says.

Barabas Bonecrusher says, 'Pkok is doing pretty well I'd say, since people got the guts to go accept all.'

Fuego Inferno whaps Hp across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Hp's head.

Strength Fighter Damage

Legolas says, sad and melancholy, 'Which should do more damage?'

A mermaid trapped in human form brandishes a shark's jaw, bristling with teeth menacingly.

'7ft?' Tritoch says to Legolas.

LadyAce says, 'Oops, did you see what we were saying earlier on this one?'

Craven says, 'Its a bug I think legolas.'

Hp says, 'Zeirath for example, he had 73dam 56hit and he damcaped barley slashed.'

LadyAce says, 'That str is buggy atm and we're working on fixing it :) is what we said.'

Hp says, 'If i attack 5 times on a stunned mob and barley slash thats bs.'

'They know :P,' Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Hp.

'Str hitting needs to be more consistent at least,' Legolas says, sad and melancholy.

'Its not consistant for a reason,' Craven says.

Hp says, 'Well pissed me off =P.'

'That's the problem with big dice,' Lord Danar says.

'Oh?' Fuego Inferno says, in a voice that's all powerful, to Legolas. 'Why?'

Lord Danar says, 'As opposed to little dice.'

'Your sword has 1-18 dice,' Craven says.

'Just remove every item that gives a hitdamhpmana bonus!' Tritoch says. 'Want hp, get con, want umm dam go str, want to die quickly, go dex!'

Sandra says, 'Making it consistant would overpower strength fighters.'

'My dagger has 1-9,' Craven says.

'Yet it has 9 attacks,' Hp says.

Craven says, 'It should be somewhat consistant though.'

Craven says, 'I don't thihnk a sword hitting 5 times should EVER hit less then an obliterate.'

Legolas says, sad and melancholy, 'Because i spend tons of slots on hit/dam eq... just to be outhit 4/6 times by someone using a katar.'

'But thats my opinion,' Craven says.

Tritoch says, 'Oh i know, make ac useful, and then remove all hp items..'

Hp nods his agreement with Tritoch.

Hp says, 'No kidding.'

Craven says, 'Ac is incredibly useful.'

Fuego Inferno says, rather cocky, to Legolas, 'Your swinging a damn 7 ft sword... you think you'll nail me consistantly?'

Craven says, 'Its one thing that screws fighters.'

'I'd rather see AC revisions AND hp revisions :),' LadyAce says.

'Um, AC is really useful,' Sandra says to Tritoch. 'Try getting all AC items as a low lvl.'

'Ac at high levels is actually somewhat overpowered,' Craven says.

'Snipers block my attack 90% of the time,' Craven says.

Barabas Bonecrusher nods his agreement with Sandra.

A mermaid trapped in human form puts a small piece of paper from Elisa in an large teal velvet satchel.

Craven says, 'When you only GET 5 attacks, blocking a few sucks.'

Fuego Inferno whistles at Craven appreciatively.

'Not to mention adding on a parry,' Craven says.

Lord Danar nods his agreement with Craven.

Fuego Inferno scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Hp says, 'Yeh parrys a bitch.'

'Another reason dex is currently ruler of pk,' Craven says.

'Screws str fighters,' Hp says.

'Miass has a old gauche =P,' Hp says.

LadyAce says, 'Anyways...I think that probly does it for Q & A?'

LadyAce smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'Unless other people have questions?'

LadyAce says, 'Okie :).'

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