Sandra says, 'raise 'em if ya got 'em'

Razael says, 'Not really a question but, this silly thing won't let me go ooc when I hold it'

Razael says, 'It's annoying'

Sandra says, 'yea, that's because of it's affects. As designed :)'

Razael says, 'Because of all these silly ooc restrictions and stuff... It's just annoying to have to remove it'

Razael says, 'Couldn't you flag the values as being given by eq rather than spells so that you don't have to remove them?'

Razael says, 'Cause, I mean, detect evil doesn't harm a lot ooc'

Sandra says, 'nope, coz we want the affects removed regardless'

Razael says, 'nor detect magic'

Razael says, 'Just saying.'

Sandra says, 'it gies more than that :)'

Cage says, 'the line of ooc affects allowed needs to be defined a bit more, i think. i mean, why can i be blessed, but not flying? :p'

Cage says, 'or sink, but not waterwalk.'

Sandra says, 'yea, probably'

Cymo says, 'make everything come off :p'

Sandra says, 'it isn't that easy :)'

Cage says, 'especially with removeaffect now.'

Cymo says, 'it should be!'

Cage says, 'any news on what's gonna happen with pk healing?'

Sandra says, 'Rufus has been way busy with RL stuff again the past two weeks. He says he'll be able to devote a chunk of time to getting that figured out probably next week'

Cage says, 'seems simple to me, but what do i know. :)'

Sandra says, 'yea it isn't as simple as it looks :)'

Cage says, 'if you're in the 10 tick timer, healing = 45%. how hard is it? :p'

Sandra says, 'rather'

Sandra says, 'what if you were already healed from the pk damage and were mobkilling?'

Cage says, 'part of pk.'

Sandra says, 'or what if you were doing all that and then attacked again?'

Sandra says, 'lots of things to consider and lots of checks to be made'

Sandra says, 'but it's all in good hands :)'

Cage says, 'so, pk is gonna be the new steal.'

Sandra says, 'nah'

Sandra says, 'steal is still teh suk'

Sandra says, 'other questions?'

Cage says, 'yes, because i cant let you go watch lost on time.'

Sandra says, 'one sec'

Razael says, 'steal is useful for looting corpses...'

Sandra says, 'just area updates. I don't have the code ones'

Razael says, 'Fix the damn shroud of the master'

Sandra says, 'I think she did?'

Razael says, '-8 ac last time i checked'

Cage says to Sandra, 'Oooh, pitts expansion.'

Nietzsche says, 'my homunculi can't 10x give coins Niet anymore, and there was no mention of it in the code updates, is that gonna be fixed or do we have to just live with the irritation'

Sandra says, 'yea, that's a bug with order. It was fixed this week, and I'm going to assume that it'll go in friday'

Cage says, 'OH!'

Nietzsche says, 'ok'

Cage says, 'what the hell's with hunger?'

Cage says, 'i swear, i seem to be starving like once every 30 rl minutes these days.'

Sandra says, 'hm. I dunno. I haven't noticed it'

Cage says, 'i notice it alot.'

Cage says, 'it's hard to build eating into an xp bot! :p'

Razael says, 'yep, -8'

Sandra says, 'well that sucks to be you ;)'

Sandra says, 'hm, guess she hasn't fixed it yet :)'

Cage says, 'don't fix that..'

Cage says, 'fix it all.'

Sandra says, 'fix it all what?'

Cage says, 'eq, ac.'

Sandra says, 'almost all of it is fixed'

Sandra says, 'the changes to the tara eq was great :P'

Cage says, 'so there's new eq with new ac now?'

Sandra says, 'new rent, really'

Sandra says, 'probably same ac'

Cage says, 'well, that's useless.'

Cage says to Huma, 'Bad huma.'

Huma says, 'I'm sorry'

Huma says, 'sorry sorry sorry'

Huma says, 'I really am man sorry :)'

Cage says to Huma, 'Sandra promised me a slay.'

Huma says, 'gotta get the info!'

Huma says, 'go for the kill'

Huma says, 'i am not as late as I thought I would be'

Huma says, 'so whatsup'

Razael says to Huma, 'You still owe me one of somar's flash-frozen corpses.'

Sandra says, 'we were just talking about the new rent changes'

Huma says, 'ohhh'

Huma says, 'they're nice'

Cage says, 'so no ac changed, just rent on materials?'

Sandra says, 'mainly'

Sandra says, 'some ac may have changes, but none that I did'

Cage says, 'is that the ummm, ac fix?'

Huma says, 'ac fix'

Huma says, 'as in AC is to powerful?'

Huma says, 'not that change'

Cage says, 'no..'

Huma says, 'oh'

Cage says, 'it's too hard to find.'

Huma says, 'ohhh'

Sandra says, 'ac is too hard to find?'

Huma says, 'its to hard to find items that have max ax'

Cage says, 'too few items with good ac.'

Sandra says, 'what're you smokin? ;)'

Huma says, 'er ac'

Huma says, 'Somar has told me about it couple times'

Cage says to Sandra, 'Fine, eq jade, get better than -40 ac.'

Cage says to Sandra, 'Really.'

Huma says, 'with low dex its rough'

Sandra says, 'I'm sure I could'

Cage says to Sandra, 'With eq that's obtainable.'

Sandra says, 'that's all I use'

Huma says, 'well I'm happy that at least something about EQ'ing your character is difficult :)'

Cage says, 'dex is ac, period. :p'

Huma says, 'Legend needs some challenge!'

Cage says to Huma, 'We can debate that later.'

Huma says, 'I'm a big fan of challenge'

Sandra says, 'yes, dex gets ac. But it's still pretty easy to get a non dex char enough ac that an armor spell will top things off'

Cage says to Sandra, 'Heh, if you say so.'

Huma says to Sandra, 'Better dodge the you only love cause mages bullets.'

Huma says, 'freaking Lost man'

Huma says, 'thats what I'm sayin'

Huma says, 'thats the ticket right there'

Sandra says, 'yea and now I have to wait til later to get a shower so I don't miss it!'

Huma says to Sandra, 'Dirty Lost watching = OK by me.'

Cymo says to Sandra, 'Can you wait til later? i smell ya all the way over here.'

Sandra says, 'it was 106 here today, I was outside half of it.'

Huma says, 'when is it on for you Sandra, now?'

Huma says to Sandra, 'Dont do that!'

Cage says, 'anyway, here's what i see, with ac.'

Sandra says, 'in 5 minutes the new episode is on'

Cage says, 'there's one good item in each slot.'

Huma says, 'just balance the TV precariously on your bathtub and take a bath'

Cage says, 'if you don't need that items stats, you're screwed. you actually have to build stats on chars with what eq you want in mind.'

Sandra says, 'not true'

Cage says, 'unless you're dex.'

Sandra says, 'still not true :)'

Cage says, 'ok, run this by me.'

Cage says, 'what's a cloak of midnight made of?'

Sandra says, 'midnightish stuffage'

Cage says, 'cloth..'

Cage says, 'what's karate robes made of?'

Cage says, 'cloth..'

Sandra says, 'actually'

Cage says, 'check the ac difference in the 2.'

Sandra says, 'you're wrong'

Sandra says, 'twice'

Sandra says, 'and make that 3 times'

Sandra says to Huma, 'Agree?'

Huma says, 'hrrrm'

Cage says, 'ac on the cloak is like twice as good.'

Sandra says, 'cloak is item type MISC'

Sandra says, 'robes are COTTON'

Huma says, 'yeah Sandys got a point'

Cage says, 'relistically, they're both CLOTH.'

Sandra says, 'no'

Cymo says, 'what the hell is misc?'

Huma says, 'and that australian guy from the tour de stad has a gun on Locke'

Huma says to Cymo, 'Miscellaneous.'

Huma says, 'a cloak of midnight is made of not just cloth'

Cymo says, 'no kidding, but what exactly is it made out of?'

Huma says, 'its like magic and such =P'

Huma says, 'I dunno!'

Sandra says, 'realistically, the cloak is mystical, and the robes are just from some little oriental guy'

Huma says, 'some sweet ass elvan stuff?'

Huma says, 'yeah'

Huma says, 'thats the point in this case'

Huma says, 'there may be other cases where stuff doesnt make sense'

Huma says, 'and if they are can always toss up an idea'

Huma says, 'say X and Y are similar but X sucks'

Cage says, 'well, i get that an item has ac, and magical ac.'

Huma says, 'but cant compare a cloak of magical awesome to some Mr Myagi robes'

Cage says, 'but it's like the magical ac is huge, and the normal ac is crap.'

Huma says, 'well also'

Sandra says, 'it's the other way around.'

Huma says, 'the rent reflects'

Sandra says, 'plus there is a limit per material'

Sandra says, 'and slot'

Huma says, 'but like, I have heard that before'

Huma says, 'but ok First thing, does every char HAVE to be perfect?'

Huma says, 'and second, whats wrong with a challenge?'

Sandra says, 'I'm not saying that the robes are at their max, they aren't. But they're also 5X easier to get, a lesser material, and builder choice'

Cymo says, 'i must be perfect at all times!'

Huma says, 'well its a challenge at least :)'

Cymo says, 'thats why i have somebody else make my list'

Huma says, 'me too'

Cymo says, '+s'

Huma says, 'I could make lists like 6 years ago'

Cage says, 'shouldn't need to be all knowing to make a decent list.'

Huma says, 'whats indecent about having 20 less armor then some other guy'

Cage says, 'it's not 20, it's more like 40.'

Huma says, 'look anyone with a brain can make a list that has near max stats and decent AC'

Cymo says, 'i used to be able to make them, but they give me headaches anymore'

Cage says to Huma, 'I must not have a brain.'

Huma says to Cymo, 'Me to.'

Huma says, 'well'

Cage says to Huma, 'Thanks for pointing that out.'

Huma says, 'lots of people here like to twink their chars'

Cymo says to Sandra, 'And i odnt care about the people on the raft.'

Huma says, 'thats fine'

Huma says, 'but its not our job to make it easy to do so'

Sandra says, 'I do!'

Huma says, 'the game should be a challenge'

Cymo says, 'i'd rather find out about the other dudes in the big metal cage'

Cage says to Huma, 'Whatever, thanks for making me feel like a fucking moron.'

Cymo says, 'however, i'm flipping back and forth between that and ering'

Huma says, 'I dont think i said anything terribly bad'

Sandra says to Huma, 'It's all good.'

Cymo says to Huma, 'He's like that sometimes :p'

Sandra says, 'I don't like e-ring'

Huma says, 'for sure'

Cymo says, 'why for?'

Huma says, 'I just dont see a problem with the game being... challenging'

Cymo says, 'me either'

Razael says, 'I don't have problems with -100 lists...'

Cymo says, 'cept i just make others make my lists'

Razael says, 'My bowmage has -100, and those are the two hardest classes to hit high ac with'

Huma says, 'well even if he didnt'

Huma says, 'I mean, so what if all chars in the game dont have X'

Huma says, 'thats OK =P'

Sandra says, 'my con mages have -80ish. It isn't hard. sorry'

Alvis says, 'wha?'

Huma says, 'welcome Mr Alvis'

Razael says, 'having -80, or -70, really isn't that bad'

Razael says, 'as long as your above like -50 you're pretty set'

Sandra says, 'yea'

Alvis says, 'please tell me that was a trigger'

Huma says, 'I dont mind making the game a bit of a challenge'

Sandra says, 'what?'

Huma says, 'hrm?'

Huma says, 'might lead to continuted character playing'

Huma says, 'if it was harder to get certain EQ =P'

Huma says, 'who knows'

Cymo says, 'i just need to get coupons for many chars, cause of certain items i've had to use'

Cymo says, 'that doesn't fit rps'

Huma says, 'I know a lot of games I play getting 'Tier 1' gear is a HUGE part of the game'

Alvis says, 'do we have a problem with people not keeping old characters? This char is just about 10 years old right now.'

Huma says, 'nah they keep them'

Huma says, 'just dont use them....'

Huma says, 'except heh I see Many BlahSnarto Alvis Drakkon on now'

Huma says, 'Vahn too'

Huma says, 'so its not the worst'

Huma says, 'all old names'

Sandra says, 'I still play my ancient ones!'

Alvis says, 'i thin blahsnarto started over though'

Razael says, 'He did'

Huma says, 'we have had several discussion about the 'alt' culture'

Cymo says, 'i'm old!'

Huma says, 'Cymo is old too'

Razael says, 'I'm moderately greying...'

Razael says, 'or at least, pants is'

Huma says, 'Trousers is good'

Huma says, 'so questions?'

Cymo says, 'pants, hehe'

Huma says, 'that dont involve philosophy?'

Razael says to Cymo, 'I'd be on him but he has a timer.'

Cymo says to Razael, 'Pants is cool.'

Huma says, 'so'

Huma says, 'Lida Raz Cym?'

Huma says, 'what can I do ya for'

Huma says, 'we can probably wrap it maybe?'