March 25th, 2004

CZARS says, 'if there's an imm here, posting the code and area update ahead of time would be cool'

CZARS says, 'oh man I got so many circular arguements choc is gonna wish he'd been sedated'

Sana snickers softly.

Sana says, 'he will just glue you'

Sana says, 'like he always does :P'

Kaine chuckles politely.

CZARS says, 'good old choc, if you cant pk them, just glue them'

CZARS says, 'besides, choc gluing is like the mark of coolness'

CZARS says, 'me vendetta and craven get it done on a regular basis'

CZARS says, 'it's like a scar that chicks dig, except really enrdy ones'

You snort derisively.

CZARS says, 'hey now, you cant argue that chicks dig scars'

Kaine chortles with amusement.

CZARS says, 'another good arguement to make during q n a is to ask sandra for a pk fight'

Varnel says, 'wow'

CZARS says, 'if you wanna go for broke, ask about battle surgeons'

Sana snickers softly.

CZARS says, 'tumble's never a bad idea'

CZARS says, 'and if worse comes to worse, go to the q n a archives and ask about something that confuses you'

CZARS says, 'check out what I found yesterday while doing my entrance stuff :P'

CZARS says, '..'

Chocorua says, 'afk'

Sana says, 'lets rag on him while he is gone'

CZARS says, 'Vendetta says, 'I THINK EVERYTHING YOU DO IS GOOD, THANKS A LOT FOR A GREAT MUD!!!''

CZARS says, 'I almost wet myself when I saw that in an old q n a log'

CZARS says to Kaige, 'i'd give it a 4 out of 10, better than just a normal walking in, being backstabbed after sneaking in, sandra shooting/backstabbing me invis, or some poofins, but it's no horde of gerbils.'

CZARS says, 'also lacks a dhole element'

CZARS nods to himself.

Shane beeps Kaige on the nose.

Straussy hugs Kaige.

Shane says to Straussy, 'kiss ass.'

Straussy sinks his teeth into Shane's flesh.

CZARS slaps Shane.

CZARS nods his agreement with Straussy.

Straussy hugs Chocorua.

Shane sinks his teeth into CZARS's flesh.

CZARS says, 'nibble if you wanna make it last'

Straussy says, 'now thats a kiss ass'

CZARS nibbles on Shane's ear.

Straussy conjures a duck out of midair and throws it at Chocorua!

CZARS says, 'better'

Shane nods solemnly.

Chocorua says, 'back'

Straussy says to Chocorua, 'How goes?'

Chocorua says to Straussy, 'Ehh.'

Shane smiles at Sana.

Brenna says, 'Sooo... what's possibility of getting chocorua dolls that spit glue at you when you try to whap them?'

Brenna whistles innocently.

CZARS says, 'there should be a glue tool on a choc lop'

Brenna grins evilly at CZARS.. wonder what she's thinking...

Chocorua says, 'i didn't invent glu'

CZARS says, 'of course, seeing as how choc never pked, the LOP should die real easy'

Kaige says, 'Raise your hands to get put in the queue, be respectful of the person with the floor and just in general.'

Chocorua says to CZARS, 'Choc was never a mortal so actually it might be a rought one to kill.'

Brenna says, 'when I was an immy, I kept a row of jars with decapitated heads in them of the players I'd nuked. Not a big collection, but it sure impressed the troublemakers at times.'

Brenna grins evilly.

Kaine chuckles, pondering the many uses of the welcome board.

Kaige says, 'and I'll apologize first thing by saying I have a horribly stuffed up head, so if my attention wanders, please forgive me.'

CZARS says to Chocorua, 'nah, I'll make sure there's lots of input about you if you ever LOP so that you at least have a wise ass line about craven and pk, etc.'

CZARS says to Kaige, 'may the gerbils be with you.'

Suileach bows deeply.

Chocorua says to CZARS, 'I already have a char in LOP so i doubt i will put choc in nytime int eh future.'

Chocorua comforts Kaige.

Kaige says, 'so.. Questions, comments, pertinent observations?'

Kaige points at Brenna.

Brenna says, 'Are there any further things planned for the dress wound skill?'

Kaine says, 'Thought that was going to be the quickest q&a ever'

Brenna grins evilly at Kaine.. wonder what she's thinking...

Kaige says, 'I think Sandra had a few more drugs she was looking to add to the whole dress wounds/inject thing, but I haven't heard anything about them lately.'

Brenna nods solemnly.

Brenna says, 'that's exactly what I was wondering, thanks.'

Kaige smiles happily.

Kaige nods solemnly.

Kaige points at Sana.

Sana says, 'can the dun guard give you a tag or something so you dont gotta pay every 2 seconds? maybe last a day or so, mud day that is'

Sana says, 'was watching my friend try to shoot/flee a mob towards the entrance of the dun and he went thru like 50 bucks'

Straussy says, 'i say make him charge you twice as much'

Straussy grins evilly at Sana.. wonder what he's thinking...

Kaige says, 'he's kinda greedy... maybe you shouldn't be treating it like a revolving door?'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Sana says, 'well then I have a part two suggestion for the area'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Sana says, 'peasant uprisings to express thier hatred for greedy nobles and corrupt military officials'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Sana says, 'every 2 days rhia will lead a run into the dun killing everyone'

CZARS says, 'on a similar note, what side will aengus be on, because that's the winning one :P'

Kaige says, 'any other questions out there?'

Sana says, 'i'm sure aengus is pist about having to pay everytime he wants to slip into the dun for an illicit affair with branwyn.'

CZARS says, 'ooohhh, what about lughlughlugh'

Kaige says to Kaine, 'It may yet be.'

Sana says, 'lugh would be pissed about the tarans throwing him out to begin with'

Sana says, 'or denying him entrance, or whatever they did to him I forget'

Sana says, 'err no that was ulster'

Sana says, 'oh well whatever.'

Kaige points at Sana.

Sana says, 'whensa pk tourney! We want sandra to explain herself here!'

CZARS nods his agreement with Sana.

Sana says, 'even tho I can guess, she is busy with school and thats fine'

Cheyla says, 'she's not here so that's be kinda hard for her to do'

Sana says, 'but in the sake of keeping this from being a 2 minute qna'

Kaige says, 'Neither Sandra nor LA were planning on being here tonight. But feel free to mudmail them, cause I don't know the answer.'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Kaige.

Varnel flops about helplessly.

Kaige says, 'nor do I know when the tinyplot is going to be'

Cheyla says, 'if it's still to be this month, you can expect to see if in the next 7 days, tho :)'

Kaige giggles.

Varnel flops about helplessly.

Kaige nods her agreement with Cheyla.

Kaige points at CZARS.

CZARS says, 'ok, just a few ideas mainly'

CZARS says, 'first off, I noticed on a friend that morgawr's special seems to make you deaf'

CZARS says, 'like he kept missing tells and such'

Kaige nods solemnly.

CZARS says, 'so I was wondering, are there any plans to do the same with the cause 'noise' spell to inhibit, say, charmy commands or the listen skill?'

Sana says, 'that'd be kind of funny'

Kaige says, 'I believe there are already some of those in effect, but definitely dump it on the idea channel so it doesn't get lost'

Sana says, 'as a create mage in pk however I have to give you the finger now czars'

CZARS says, 'ok, I thought some were in, but I was never able to reproduce it, it's a rare chance of doing so'

Kaige says, 'Haven't played with a clapper much, eh?'

Kaige chuckles politely.

CZARS shakes his head.

CZARS says, 'only noise spell on my cause'

Sana says, 'that was an annoying char to level I tell you what'

CZARS says, 'easier to access than a damn clapper'

Kaige says, 'anyway... anyone have any questions or shall we bounce back to Sana?'

Brenna raises her hand again.

Kaige says to Sana, 'We'll come back to you next, ok?'

Kaige points at Brenna.

Sana says, 'yeah i'm forgetting anyways'

Sana peers at herself myopically.

Brenna says, 'North PD is apparently very unpopular among the majority of players. The frequent comment I hear is that it's too tough for the xp you get out of it, so they feel it's not worth it. Any plans on changes there?'

Kaige says, 'haven't heard any from Rufus... tho I did see some catastrophe in South Side today'

Cheyla says, 'none that i'm aware of...'

Cheyla says, 'you could drop a note to rufus about it, tho'

Brenna nods solemnly.

Straussy says, 'North side is the most frequently ran section of PD is it not?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Cheyla.

Brenna says, 'thank you'

Brenna says, 'maybe I'm thinking of the wrong side. The one with Blackbeard.'

Rusalka hugs Kaige.

Brenna has been trying to get eq from him for quite awhile now. ;)

Straussy whispers quietly to Brenna.

Kaige says to Sana, 'Remember yet?'

Brenna says, 'Doh! Okay, whichever side has Blackbeard is the one I'm talking bout.'

Sana shakes her head.

Kaige says to Brenna, 'Same answer... Rufus is the one who'd know. =)'

Brenna says, 'thanks, Kaige'

Kaige says, 'not trying to be smart... just saying I haven't heard any plans and he'd be the one planning. =)'

Kaige says, 'anyone else with questions, comments, observations?'

Brenna says, 'I understand, being on staff doesn't mean you know everything everyone's doing all the time. ;)'

Kaige may have an immortal char, but she's not omniscient.

Kaige giggles.

Kaige nods her agreement with Brenna.

Brenna grins evilly.

Kaige is also usually the last to know anything, cause well, everyone assumes everyone else has told her.

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Brenna laughs.

Kaige points at CZARS.

CZARS says, 'ok, on a note, I havent *fully* tested stoneskin (not with stab weapons and their backstabs) yet but here's an idea....'

CZARS says, 'chance gun damage to type 'blast' and make stoneskin suscep stun'

CZARS throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

CZARS says, 'erm, cahnge gun damage'

Kaige says, 'guns aren't currently categorized as a damage type like the wielded weapons.'

CZARS says, 'I know'

Kaige smiles at Huginn.

CZARS says, 'but I assume it can be done, or can it, Huggy, any thoughts?'

CZARS stares deeply into Huginn's eyes... you wonder if you're intruding.

Sana pokes Huginn in the ribs.

Kaige says, 'you're gonna have to repeat it for him to be able to have a guess'

CZARS says, 'ok, on a note, I havent *fully* tested stoneskin (not with stab weapons and their backstabs) yet but here's an idea....'

CZARS says, 'change gun damage to type 'blast' and make stoneskin suscep stun'

Straussy says to Kaige, 'Is Charity still in charge of Eqypt updates or future expansions?'

CZARS says, 'i.e. I'm not sure if backstab damage mirrors weapon damage or is strictly pierce'

Huginn says, 'what's the problem?'

CZARS says, 'problem is, a piercer on stoneskin doesnt stand a chance any way you slice it :P'

Cheyla says, 'Charity isn't, no'

Sana says, 'make the punk run around a bunch'

Huginn says, 'stoneskin has a significant mana cost and renders the caster unable to chase.. run away until it wears off'

Huginn says, 'or dispel it'

Straussy beams at Kaige delightedly.

Straussy says, 'so there are drawbacks for the bearer of stoneskin too'

CZARS says, 'yes'

CZARS says, 'I just dont think they're as damaging to the mage as they are to a sniper or a dex character'

Huginn says, 'its supposed to be an advantage'

Huginn says, 'that's why it costs 100 mana'

Brenna ouches at the thought of 100 mana!

Sana says, '100? I know a guy on lake st who can hook it up for 20'

CZARS slaps Sana.

Huginn chuckles politely.

Straussy says, 'cheap mana'

Kaige says, 'and a single approach isn't necessarily going to be the best tactic against all char types'

Kaige shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says to Straussy, 'Was that your only question?'

CZARS says, 'I'm just saying, when what normally constitutes 130 mana on a blackstab is relegated to under 80, you've already saved yourself 50 mana in healing'

Straussy says to Kaige, 'Aye.'

Kaige says to Huginn, 'Cover it for you?'

Huginn nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige points at Sana.

Sana says, 'this isn't the one I forgot earlier but seeing huggybear reminded me...'

Sana says, 'for the sake of making fighters stand a chance against a mage who isn't afk, how about being able to douse with big water sources like barrels or some such and have it remove ring of fire?'

Kaige says, 'you can't?'

Kaige has created a water barrel!

Sana says, 'not last I checked'

CZARS says, 'because then the mage just has to stand over water and it really doesnt matter either way then :P'

SPLASH! Kaige douses Huginn with a water barrel.

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Kaige eats a water barrel.

Brenna snickers softly.

Kaige has created a towel!

Kaige gives a towel to Huginn.

Straussy chuckles politely.

Cheyla comforts Huginn.

Huginn says, 'a large enough water source, yeah possible'

Straussy says, 'he's all wet.'

Straussy chuckles politely.

CZARS says, 'I'd settle for an imm quaffing a grenade to make my day'

Sana says, 'something that I couldnt carry but a fighter could'

Sana says, 'like a barrel or a jug'

Sana says, 'not a teapot :p'

Huginn says, 'not a jug'

CZARS says, 'jug is even too small'

Brenna says, 'I thought jugs held more than barrels'

CZARS laughs.

Kaige says to Brenna, 'Not usually.'

Sana says, 'or even better, hook the outfitter up to sell firehoses'

CZARS says, 'just weigh way less'

Brenna says, 'ahhh'

Straussy says, 'maybe minikegs but not barrels'

Sana says, 'a new type of gun'

Sana snickers softly.

CZARS says, 'in that case, I say the mage should be able to douse the other person in gasoline for extra effectiveness'

Brenna says to Sana, 'like a squirtgun!'

Brenna grins evilly.

Sana says, 'mages have enough already'

CZARS says, 'think major poison, but fire damage'

Sana says, 'I can limit myself to one spell only in a fight and kill most nonmages'

Sana says, 'not even a kneecapping spell either just a damage one'

Sana snickers softly.

Kaige scans the room for raised hands and says, 'Any others out there?'

CZARS says, 'then there are those times the non mages paralyze you'

CZARS snickers softly.

Sana mutters under her breath.

Kaige points at CZARS.

CZARS says, 'any chance of iron will being applied to perc?'

Huginn says, 'not at this time'

CZARS says, 'can I ask why not, or can I be told no and act decently?'

Huginn says, 'it was meant for fighter stats'

Kaige says, 'we don't really have that much it would be appropriate for in terms of perc skills'

Huginn says, 'perc isn't one of them'

CZARS says, 'well I mean I feel perc's cool, but it's status as a 'fight' stat in large amounts isnt exactly in question'

You reach down into your toes and draw on your courage and force yourself to stay on the trail of your prey!

CZARS laughs.

Brenna snickers softly.

CZARS says, 'no I mean something like maybe a chance to tumble elbow/topple, or maybe detect illusion/invis or better chance to detect disguise, maybe a natural resistance to blind?'

Your iron will forces you to steady your hand and overcome the loss of feeling in your right arm that has slowly crept up while you aimed five times and your shot is perfect!

CZARS says, 'detect illusion at 100 perc would be sick :P'

CZARS says, 'hey, snipers dont need an extra pk snipe chance, they need another detect :P'

Kaige says, 'like I said.. not really much that would be appropriate to link them together right now.'

Brenna thinks that would be handy in real life when she's shooter on a really long run! :P

Kaige says to Brenna, 'Yeah.. but that's the most likely one I can think of that makes any sense.'

Brenna nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'and like you said... they don't really need that boost.'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

CZARS says, 'I mean, there are boatloads of ideas for iron will perc I've heard, but if you dont consider it a fight stat, I dont see how I can convince you otherwise'

CZARS says, 'I've even heard people say 100 perc should be detect illusion, which I know can be gotten in game a few ways, but it'd still be real nice, just from a pk aspect'

CZARS says, 'no more walls!'

CZARS shakes Sana's hand.

Sana says, 'hah'

CZARS shakes his fist at Sana.

Huginn says, 'yeah that would be nice.. all that mana for walls.. no effect'

Sana says, 'I only use walls on fat people recently'

Huginn says, 'no'

CZARS says, 'like I said there are ways to get Detect illusion in combat as a non-mage, but it's just boring'

Sana says, 'if people want to not see walls in pk there is a simple solution'

CZARS says, 'give creates ehaling?'

Sana says, 'become as cool as allegory, if everyone is as cool as him I won't be casting walls anymore because he is so cool he gets wall protection'

Sana nods to herself.

Huginn says, 'we can make that as a redeem.. allegory coolness'

Huginn chuckles politely.

Brenna makes a note to study Allegory's coolness.

Sana says, 'yeah, a pretitle. Cool like allegory huginn says, 'whats up homies?''

CZARS says, 'hey, I'm just saying 80 mana and a create wins a pk fight on somebody if they force the person to stay in combat'

Huginn snickers softly.

Kaige notes her queue is empty, no waiting, just raise your hand to get put on the list.

Kaige says to Huginn, 'That'd be right after the "Awesome like Craven" one right?'

Huginn nods solemnly.

Sana says, 'arnic cast a wall and I thumped it...i've never been so humiliated in my life. Can we make walls an exclusive for sana spell?'

CZARS says, 'wait, I think what Kaige is saying is this will happen right after "Pigs Fly" becomes a selectable pretitle'

Brenna laughs.

Sana says, 'speaking of as my alt is nearing 100mil I would like to throw a few choice pretitle ideas out there'

Kaige points to the idea file.

Sana says, 'pimp daddy, big dog, thumper, old school G from the westside'

Kaige says, 'and those will likely not even make it to LA for review'

Kaige comforts Sana.

CZARS says to Sana, 'i'd settle for 'village idiot' if I were you.'

Sana says, 'you people are hindering my rp!'

Sana says, 'just because i'm not a demon or something stupid I can't play here huh?'

Sana says, 'I see how it is!'

Sana sulks in the corner.

CZARS says, 'Merc's RP is enough for us all'

Kaige notes your rp is rather hindered by our theme and time frame more than anything else.

Cheyla imagines The Notorious would work reasonably well enough as a substitute.

Sana says, 'they had pimps in pittsburg! :p'

Kaige chuckles politely at Cheyla's feeble witticism.

CZARS says, 'Sana isn't notorious, she's grendelish at best'

Sana says, 'thats another thing, clans should give flags like pretitles'

Kaige says, 'they had pimps in Bengal, but I doubt they were referred to as "pimp daddy" and went around saying 'yo' unless they were moonlighting as caribbean pirates.'

Cheyla giggles at Kaine.

Sana says, 'so when grendel sana comes up and stabs you people will stop going "the hell!" and stuffz'

Kaine winces in sympathy with Cheyla.

Sana says, 'would there like be a way to like make it so like characters or maybe even just clans can view thier kills/deaths and stuff?'

Kaige points at Sana.

CZARS says, 'no'

Sana says, 'we don't want info obsessed freaks...but it might be kind of cute to be able to check it'

CZARS says, 'no ladder'

Chocorua says, 'so like umm ahh we like don't umm track umm like that umm yet'

Kaige says, 'you'd get them'

Sana says, 'maybe it costs a redeem to see your list? :P'

Kaige says, 'would cost more than that since it's not something that's tracked. =)'

Chocorua says, 'gathered info that hardly anyone sees would be a waste'

Brenna thinks if we kept running tallies on the Whois's for DTs hit, Raianna would get the expies award for it next year hands down.

Kaige nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Sana says, 'I guess i'll just make up some random number to put in my title when I retire "retired grendel 100millionthousand billion 2" or something'

CZARS says, 'I can just see you telling your roomie to witness it so when you brag about it later, you can have soembody else say it was true'

CZARS rolls his eyes heavenward.

Kaige says, 'over 200 billion served up cold on a slab?'

Sana nods her agreement with CZARS.

Brenna grins evilly at Kaige.. wonder what she's thinking...

CZARS says, 'welcome to dexmud, would you like con with that?'

Sana says, 'yeah maybe a cool whois when you've killed 100million pkers'

Sana says, 'I think i'm getting close, especially if multies count'

Chocorua says, 'we don't need more rasons for people to randomly kill people that are no challenge'

Kaige nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Kaige says, 'for anyone just joining or coming back from AFK, just raise your hand to get put in the queue, little wait at this time'

Sana says, 'just seems kinda odd that people who mobkill obsessively get cool stuff and people who pk a lot get thier chars closer to being permad'

Sana says, 'I think I get what choc is saying...'

Kaige says, 'define "a lot"'

Sana says, 'killing is it's own reward, so kill them and take a pick of what you want as a reward from their corpse?'

Chocorua says, 'the game was designed for mobkill .... even out your activities some'

Sana says, 'well 100million is a bit of a stretch'

Sana says, 'but maybe 1000 kills'

Chocorua says, 'pkill is soemthing that was added outside teh normal advancement scheme of experience gathering'

Huginn says, 'the reward pkillers get is the excitement'

Huginn says, 'not exp, or cool titles'

Huginn says, 'you get that excitement from mobkilling, let me know'

Sana says, 'so what your saying huginn is that it was fine for him to perma masha like that?'

Sana says, 'oh, speak of the devil'

Sana conjures a duck out of midair and throws it at Masha!

Kaige says, 'it's definitely part of the challenge to build your own reputation'

Masha pointedly ignores Sana. Bit chilly in here, eh what?

Sana says, 'heh'

CZARS says, 'this is why choc loves craven so much'

Sana says, 'where is craven'

Sana looks up into the sky and ponders.

Masha says, 'he's probably at home.'

CZARS says, 'dunno, doubt he cares'

Kaige says, 'Questions, etc, etc?'

Masha flops about helplessly.

CZARS says, 'if he were here it'd be funny though, no q n a with craven is ever boring'

Kaige points at Masha.

Masha says, 'are there going to be any new herbs going in anytime soon?'

Kaige says, 'nothing soon in the works, no'

Masha wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Kaine says, 'was willowbark new, or am I just unobservant?'

Kaige says, 'not new'

Sana peers at Kaine, looking him up and down.

Masha says to Kaine, 'willowbark's been in since I was a newbie.'

Masha says to Kaine, 'and that's been a long time, now.'

Kaine chuckles politely.

CZARS says, 'like 4 months ago?'

CZARS ducks to the ground.

Kaige points at Sana.

Sana says, 'okay I remembered my question finally'

Sana says, 'I noticed since klein came in that the bandage seller in romainia has only been stocking one bandage at a time, whats up with that?'

Sana says, 'new klein that is'

Brenna says, 'I've seen him selling rolls several times since then.'

Kaige says, 'nothing to do with klein itself. but more to do with things she asks for and the logic of why she'd be asking'

Kaine nods his agreement with Sana.

Masha pokes Chocorua in the ribs.

Kaige says, 'if I'm thinking of the right mob you mean'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sana.

Brenna was thinking of the apotheker, sorry.

Kaige smiles at Brenna.

Shane bleeds quietly to himself.

Shane stops using a pair of AA Energizer batteries.

Shane stops using a pair of AA Energizer batteries.

Kaige says, 'queue's empty again, just raise your hand to jump in line'

Kaige points at Fokke-Wulf.

Fokke-Wulf says, 'ok, question for huggles'

Sana says, 'huggy-bear'

Huginn says, 'huggles?'

Sana says, 'it's huggy-bear!'

Chocorua snickers at Huginn nastily.

Huginn says, 'what's the question..'

Fokke-Wulf says, 'can you (more) precisely define what these new hitroll changes are gonna be and how they'll affect people of all types of damroll/hitroll, for the q n a log?'

Huginn says, 'all that love'

Chocorua didn't even have to pay them to say that

Fokke-Wulf hasnt been able to find allusions to hitroll reference

Fokke-Wulf anywhere in q n a logs

Huginn says, 'don't know exactly what the changes will be..'

Huginn says, 'right now it seems that hitroll is too important..'

Chocorua says, 'and we aren't gonna spell it out when it does either'

Shane beeps Chocorua on the nose.

Huginn says, 'ideally damage roll and hitroll would be equally sought after'

Fokke-Wulf says to Chocorua, 'yOU arent, I'll coerce rufus with my dainty girlish figure.'

Huginn says, 'how things will change remains to be seen'

Fokke-Wulf says, 'alright, I see'

Kaige points at Masha.

Masha says, 'Why is it that the builders seem to be confusing clutter with detail?'

Brenna blinks.

Fokke-Wulf says, 'rp bad, short room descs good'

Cheyla says, 'can you be more specific?'

Brenna says, 'I don't agree with that assessment at all. I think the builders here are doing a fabulous job.'

Kaige says, 'bit broad a question there... and what may be clutter to one person or even char type, may be something useful and fun to interact with for someone else'

Masha says, 'It's great to have detail, but man, I dont' like walking into a room and seeing 5 generic rabbits, all with spammy actions.'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Kaine.

Sana says to Brenna, 'don't get your nose stained brown pressed way up there.'

Sana ducks to the ground.

Shane nods his agreement with Masha.

Shane says, 'where have all the wiemeranners gone to'

Chocorua says, 'i bet newbies leveling by themselves do'

Shane says, 'i missed killing em at level 1'

Shane whines.

Brenna says to Sana, 'hey, do you know ONE other mud even half as well written?'

Cheyla says, 'report instances like that then and be specific like that instead of vague'

Fokke-Wulf says to Brenna, 'yes, legendmud on a test port when ladyace runs pk open practice.'

Fokke-Wulf ducks to the ground.

Sana nods her agreement with Fokke-Wulf.

Brenna grins evilly.

Masha says, 'From what I see, it's like builders are either a) trying to put so much detail into an area that it never gets done, or b) they have to cram in as much things as possible to bring into mind their version of 'flavor''

Sana says, 'also jesus's mud is pretty sweet. He let me make a jman mob'

Sana snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'the best way to address it is still to point out specific things you have a problem with so we're aware that they're issues'

Masha says, 'Or just don't bother with them, because it might make head builder cranky.'

Masha salutes the gods in admiration of the amazing world around her.

Cheyla is completely boggled.

Brenna rolls her eyes.

Kaige says, 'or just don't give constructive feedback that's not very useful to put into practice'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Kaige says, 'anyway... who else has questions, comments, a bit more specific observations?'

Kaige points at Suileach.

Suileach says, 'did you pass my problem on?'

Suileach peers at Huginn, looking him up and down.

Kaige says, 'yup. I know Huginn got it with this past week's bug reports for sure'

Kaige says, 'haven't heard anything about it... (and you're lucky I remembered what it was)'

Suileach says, 'in that vein is there a board on bugs and their disposition?'

Kaige says to Huginn, 'His whois tag thing.'

Fokke-Wulf says to Suileach, 'there's a blue pill you can take for that.'

Suileach hugs Kaige.

Kaine says, 'is there a restriction on how many whois's can be displayed?'

Suileach says, 'thats what i am thinking'

Kaige says, 'I don't believe so, since it just runs down the list'

Kaine says, 'I think Ive seen Pop have the same problem'

Suileach nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'yeah, shouldn't be that as it spits each one out as it comes across it... so it's not like it's overwriting itself'

Kaige says, 'no wait.. I'm reading it wrong...'

Kaige says, 'that could very well be it.'

Masha chuckles politely.

Masha says, 'i enter a room, and people flee like rats abandoning a ship'

Kaige says, 'anyone else out there with burning questions?'

Kaige points at Masha.

Kaine panics, and attempts to flee.

Neo_Tritoch yells, 'wait for me kaine!'

Kaige peers intently at a bottle of extra-strength Excedrin.

Masha says, 'Could there possibly be a config put in to turn off generic animals? It gets kinda aggravating when you walk into the room at level 40+ and see 5 rabbits, all of them spamming you.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'No.'

Masha says, 'Oh, I forgot, it's supposed to be 'flavor'.'

Masha snorts derisively.

Kaige says, 'no, but I'm sure the rabbits can be tweaked in a way to reduce the problem'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'Spending time outside of newbie areas.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'And giving the builkders feedback that soemthing liek that happens so they can fix it.'

Cheyla says, 'if a builder is loading 5 rabbits to the same room, there could be something in that as well'

Kaige says, 'basically, a config that turned off those messages, would turn off just about every other message from mobs and most of what other players were doing.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Cheyla.

Masha says, 'Sorry, from what I'm seeing these days, this current batch of builders is more detail oriented than gameplay oriented.'

Kaige says, 'or if 5 rabbits are left to ... well... do what rabbits do... you know... multiplication tables...'

Masha shrugs helplessly.

Cheyla nods her agreement with Kaige.

Masha says, 'just an opinion, of course. not like wizstaff listens to it anyways'

Kaige says to Masha, 'First, take the chip off your shoulder,. it's not helping you make your point.'

Huginn says, 'lalalala what?'

Cheyla says, 'there's no real current batch of builders, really'

Chocorua thanks Kaige heartily.

Masha says to Huginn, 'exactly. Go back to your birdy-dolls, Huggles.'

Masha smirks at Cheyla.

Huginn shrugs in response to Masha's words.

Huginn says, 'whatever'

Kaige says to Masha, 'Second, concrete examples like that and lots of feedback to the builders are more helpful than generalized statements of doom and gloom.'

Masha says to Kaige, 'i thought I was being a bit more specific.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'If you want to be taken seriously less insults and sarcasm littered about your questions would help a lot.'

Cheyla says, 'our newbie builders haven't had much of a chance to get anything into the game so the current batch would be about 5 years old'

Kaige says, 'yes, and I'm glad of it. but it also sounds like the people you mean aren't here.. and one instance reported here is a drop in the bucket compared to what I'm sure irritates you on a regular basis out in the game world, yes?'

Masha says to Cheyla, 'and from what i'm seeing, there's too much detail and not enough gameplay happening with these areas these people are working on.'

Masha shrugs helplessly.

Kaige says, 'I'm assuming that's an assumption? Based on the time taken to get new areas in?'

Chocorua says, 'based on the logs of where people go and what mobs get killed i'd say that the players dont' take advantage of most of the gameplay thast out there'

Kaige nods her agreement with Chocorua.

Kaige says, 'no kidding... if I could get them out of the golden triangle, I'd be happy'

Chocorua says to Kaige, 'Drop teh exp rewards for RUN areas by 70% and they might.'

Chocorua is kidding btw

Masha says, 'Well, the first part would be to stop tweaking areas outside the 'golden-triangle'.'

Allegory is completely boggled.

Kaige says, 'STOP?'

Cheyla says, 'stop tweaking the less-visited areas?'

Huma says, 'is the golden triangle the Tara/Sherwood/London Triumverate?'

Kaige says, 'that seems backwards to me... seems like they all need attention.'

Cheyla nods her agreement with Huma.

Chocorua says, 'people need reasons to go there ...'

Chocorua says, 'so they get tweaked'

Huma says to Cheyla, 'We talked about this before eh?'

Kaige says, 'tweak the lower traffic ones to make them more reward=ing to the people who DO go... and tweak the higher traffic ones to keep them from being so godforsakenly boring....'

Kaige snores loudly.

Cheyla nods her agreement with Huma.

Masha says, 'Well, people aren't going to want to go there as we keep seeing these new 'things' going in. A good example of an area that doesn't get traveled, in my experience, has been KZ.'

Cheyla says, 'you're right, it doesn't... but i don't think it is due to clutter'

Kaige nods her agreement with Cheyla.

Masha says, 'No, it's due to it being made as a player-trap'

Kaige says, 'yeah. more like "oh my. I might die. let's just sit here next to marauder so we'll be safe"'

Chocorua says, 'KZ is SUPPOSED to be a trap'

Kaige says to Chocorua, 'Why... just cause what that stands for?'

Cheyla says, 'it wouldn't be called the killzone if that wasn't part of the intent'

Chocorua says, 'people complain things are boring ... we give ya soemthing challening and its to hard ...'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'okay, here's an example. I go on a KZ run, and the group is attacking a mob, another mob wanders in, hits the healer who's 3 wary, and the healer can't fight back because it says: 'There's no room for you to attack'.'

Masha says, 'I report it as being a bug, and I was told, 'it's not a bug, it's part of the area'.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'Sounds like you need more organization.'

Kaige says, 'sounds like the group wasn't protecting the healer.'

Masha says, 'When all five people are hitting the mob, and the healer goes to fight back and can't, that's not poor organization'

Kaige says, 'but doesn't explain why the other 35 areas get so much less traffic than the "golden handful" either'

Chocorua says, 'being outsmarted by scripted mobs isn't a bug'

Masha says, 'Oh, that's right. it's not a bug, it's a player-trap. I keep forgetting these things.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'You are confusing challenge with bug.'

Chocorua says, 'perhaps it's an area that takes people with more courage and daring'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'no, I'm not. When there are two mobs in the room, five people are attacking one, and the other mob is hitting the healer, and the healer gets the message 'There's no room for you to attack'.'

Chocorua says, 'someone should rescue the healer'

Masha shrugs helplessly.

Masha says, 'whatever. now I remember why I don't come to these things anymore, let alone bother to log in.'

Chocorua says, 'KZ isn't a good example of the "rest of the mud" that isn't being explored'

Kaige says, 'yeah. it's definitely one of those specialty niche areas'

Huginn says to Masha, 'Sorry what exact response are you looking for?'

Huginn says to Masha, 'Its a hard area.. crap happens..'

Chocorua says to Huginn, 'I think it was "oh yeah yer right here is a candy cane and 100mil xp!!!!"'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'get out the periscope so you can see out your ass. I wasn't looking for XP, it was a vlaid concern.'

Huginn says, 'Bart made it a pain on purpose.. but there's at least one thing that's highly coveted there'

Kaige says, 'anyway. I think the best approach is dropping useful comments about things you see as issues on the feedback channels so they'll get sent to the imm that's maintaining the area or the coders or mudmail the author of a specific area for'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'You came here acting all insulting and aggressive ... i'm not sure what you expect for a response.'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'i wasn't agreesive or insulting, but I can be if you want.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'You are missing the point entirely.'

Masha says to Chocorua, 'i start out by asking why builders seem to confuse clutter with detail, and I'm jumped on because to me, it was a valid concern. You're missing the point here, bub.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'Noone jumped oon you.'

Chocorua says to Masha, 'You stormed off after you didn't like th eanswer.'

Masha shrugs helplessly.

Straussy says to Kaige, 'Got a question if you're still answering.'

Chocorua says to Straussy, 'Buit we were bickering!'

Straussy whimpers softly.

Kaige says, 'and suileach I think had a hand up somewhere back there?'

Straussy says, 'what its what i do best'

Kaige peers at Suileach, looking him up and down.

Cheyla nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says to Suileach, 'Yes, no?'

Kaige says, 'still with us?'

Suileach says, 'i was wondering if there was a way to get pict frienship or is that too specific a question?'

Suileach pants.

Masha says to Straussy, 'he's bickering, I'm holding my temper in check.'

Kaige smiles at Suileach.

Kaige says, 'there's nothing like that in the area'

Straussy says, 'I idea'd that with an alt tho'

Suileach says, 'hmm'

Straussy smiles happily.

Kaige says to Straussy, 'You're up them.'

Kaige says, 'err then too'

Straussy says, 'sorry for the barge... but my question is: i heard something at one point about an animal controlling skill... any news about such rumours?'

Straussy says, 'like a mezmerizing of animals to be use as charmies if you will'

Masha mutters, "Skilltrees..."

Cheyla says, 'skilltreeeeees'

Sandra says, 'kick'

Kaige says, 'nothing currently in the works -- there was one as part of skill trees'

Sandra nods to herself.

Straussy covers his eyes with his hands.

Kaige giggles at Sandra.

Straussy says, 'any ETA on trees?'

Straussy panics, and attempts to flee.

Straussy panics, and attempts to flee.

Cheyla chuckles politely.

Masha says, 'never/'

Kaige points at Straussy.

Kaige laughs at Straussy.

Kaige says, 'nope'

Straussy says, 'sorry for the barge too'

Huma says to Straussy, 'About the same time you can successfully flee.'

Kaige says, 'but things in them have a way of creeping up on us as someone gets the time, inclination and ability'

Straussy says, 'sounds neat!'

Straussy says, 'hrmm'

Straussy says, 'oh now i remember'

Straussy sinks his teeth into Huma's flesh.

Huma grins evilly at Straussy.. wonder what he's thinking...

Kaige says, 'any other questions out there? or are we getting close to wrapping up?'

Kaige has plenty to do here tonight, if you guys don't have questions.

Huma says, 'nope none here'

Suileach bows deeply.

Kaige gnaws on a bottle of extra-strength Excedrin - what a Neanderthal.

Cheyla comforts Kaige.

Straussy hugs Kaige.

Masha says to Kaige, 'trepanning works, I hear.'

Straussy says to Kaige, 'Remember.... nibbles..'

Kaige says, 'it hurts, but I'm more worried about Elena as she hasn't had dinner yet.'

Cheyla winces in sympathy with Kaige.

Cheyla flops about helplessly.

Cheyla waves happily.

Kaige wouldn't trust the kids to do any trephining.... let them practice on each other first.

Straussy gives Cheyla a huge bearhug - your ribs ache in sympathy.

Chocorua waves happily.

Straussy bows deeply.

Masha says to Kaige, 'it'd solve the headache.'

Kaige says, 'and a lot of other things too... but it's just mold allergies. it WILL pass'

Straussy says, 'its been hot here lately'

Straussy says, 'stuffy and whatnot'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Straussy says, 'allergies and heavy weezing has been destroying me'

Kaige says, 'it's been nice here, but LOTS of fog and haze'

Straussy nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'keeps it nice and damp and I got a good solid whiff of some deceased strawberries as I was dumping them in the trash this week'

Kaige sighs at herself. What a sorry sight.

Straussy inhales deeply, taking in the smells around him.

Kaige says, 'at least the sore throat is mostly gone'

Straussy says, 'thats good!'

Kaige says, 'anyway... looks like we're done here and I need to get Elena to do her homework as well as eat here still.'

Kaige hates this single mom stuff, c'mon monday!

Kaige says to Straussy, 'Ptah's out of town for the week. He left last Sun, gets back Mon.'

Straussy's heartattack slowly subsides.

Kaige says, 'that's why I added the c'mon monday part'

Kaige ruffles Straussy's hair playfully.

Straussy says, 'ok well speaking of homework i have plenty on my plate'

Straussy gives Kaige a huge bearhug - your ribs ache in sympathy.

Kaige nods solemnly.

Kaige waves happily.

Straussy waves happily.

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