August 14th, 2003

Changes for Create Mages?

LadyAce says, 'oh real quick before we start'

LadyAce says, 'raise hands to get put in queue, send me a tell if you're not sure if you were spotted'

LadyAce says, 'so! who has a question?'

Krynn says, 'are create mages being reviewed for any furthers changes that will reduce their overall effectiveness?'

Kaige says to Krynn, 'no.. but Choc's been banging his head against the wall spell checks all day for the pke/pkok problems'

Myrella chuckles politely.

Krynn nods solemnly.

Myrella says, 'yank pk then :P'

Kae has been banging her head against walls on Choc's testmud for much the same reasons.

LadyAce pats Myrella on the head.

Kaine suggests a helmet.

Krynn says, 'blah, just go AA + PKE if you want all ur spells to work. problem solved.'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Krynn's head.

LadyAce points at Myrella.

Myrella says to Krynn, 'dont work that way'

Krynn says to Myrella, 'has for me so far'

Krynn shrugs helplessly.

Awake Shopkeepers Who Aren't Open?

Myrella says, 'why is reality only used to hinder players never help them?'

Quelron says, 'reality?'

LadyAce says, 'seems like a broad statement, not a question :)'

LadyAce says, 'reality dictates the map, that's pretty darn helpful to players'

LadyAce says, 'It has a game play control function as well'

Myrella says, 'if a merchant can stay awake 24 and 7 why the hell wont he sell 24 and 7?'

Myrella says, 'I mean really is so annoyingly dumb'

Kaige says to Myrella, 'any specific one's you're thinking of?'

LadyAce says, 'keeps all goods from being available all the time everywhere -- incentive to travel, strategize, cooperate, etc.'

Myrella says, 'well any merchant that gives me dumb come back after blah, blah message is silly'

Myrella says, 'douban has to be about the only one I find at all realistic'

Kaige says, 'sometimes the builder has specific reasons for not having a shop open 24/7 and I know personally, I'd be likely to forget to have them do something during their off hours'

Myrella says, 'he actually sleeps'

Kae says, 'I know that having them go sleep somewhere is on my in-the-distant-future to do'

Kaige says, 'a lot of people ask that they go to their houses to sleep... most of the time the builder doesn't have the spare vnums for rooms to do that.'

Myrella nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'in the klein update, just as an example, they often go to sleep right in the shop.'

Myrella says, 'I know it just annoying when the merchant is awake and all that and wont deal with you'

LadyAce says, 'annoying to have them closed, but easier to kill :)'

Kae says, 'in many places, the merchant lives in the shop...'

Kaige says, 'one of the things I tried to do with the food bazaar, since it was open 24/7 was to make it at least LOOK like there was a shift change happening.'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'your ideas on what else they ought to be doing when not selling are appreciated :)'

LadyAce says, 'for any/every mob that irritates you!'

Myrella laughs.

Myrella says, 'well mobs hurting me irritates me too.....'

Myrella laughs.

Chunk snickers softly.

LadyAce winks suggestively at Myrella.

Myrella says, 'but i guess in most cases i do attack them'

Myrella giggles.

LadyAce giggles at Myrella.

Kaige says, 'if a mob does soemthing that irritates or offends you... kill them.... repeatedly'

Kaige nods to herself.

LadyAce giggles at Kaige.

Myrella says to Kaige, 'I do, usually'

Bug with PKE Steal Fixed?

Chunk says, 'dont know if its been discussed yet.. wasnt payin attention at the start..'

Chunk says, 'problems with the pke steal skill..'

Chunk says, 'is that fixed going to be fixed etc?'

Kaige says, 'it's on the list... Choc's working on the wall thing.. and once the logic for that's established.. the other two.. steal and heal should be much easier'

Chunk nods solemnly.

Chunk says, 'oh there is a wall issue too?'

Chunk cringes in terror.

Chunk says, 'thats way worse hehe'

Kae mumbles something about bouncing into walls all day on a testmud except when she wasn't supposed to in which case she climbed over.

Kaige says, 'actually i think the heal one's the worst..'

Chunk nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'we're definitely working on it, it's a priority, etc.'

LadyAce smiles at Chunk.

Kae says, 'the heal one affects ost players at least'

Quelron says, 'yeah, why not fix that one first, then worry about the other two'

Chunk says, 'k'

Kaine says, 'What are these issues?'

Rhone peers around intently.

Kae says to Quelron, 'it's the same deal, basically'

Kaige says, 'I think cause he was tired of Kae biting him?'

Quelron nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'issues with pk/pke healing and spells not working together properly'

Kae bats her eyelashes.

Chunk says, 'it sorta checks for pkok as well as pke when those are used'

Kae says, 'basically, the issues with heal/steal/wall are the same piece of cake'

Kae says, 'once we nail one the others will be much easier'

Chunk nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'ah, nails in some tough cake.'

LadyAce says, 'might take a bigger hammer.'

LadyAce winks suggestively at Chocorua.

Quelron says, 'well, im glad someone is working on it'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Quelron.

Chunk says, 'not that stealing im looking forward to =p.. i just like to take coins and tokens of interest to bargain with on my rp'

Kae says, 'we've spent all day on it'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kae.

Kaige says to Quelron, 'and hey, I'm just glad that a top 10 issue is getting worked on, and that it means 2 others will quickly follow'

Quelron nods his agreement with Kaige.

EVENTS Command for Scheduled Games

Madoc says, 'will there be a game after this Q&A'

LadyAce says, 'type events and see'

Myrella says, 'lvl to 5!'

LadyAce smiles at Madoc.

Myrella throws her head back and cackles gleefully!

Madoc says, 'ohh thanks'

Rhone says to Madoc, 'I was hoping it to be canceled! I need more practice!'

Rhone scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce giggles at Rhone.

Chunk says to Rhone, 'hey i know someone lookin for a manager =p'

Progress on Kaine's Reimb?

Kaine says, 'I was just wondering if there had been any progress on my lost items from the housing bug incident?'

Kaine looks hopeful.

Kaige says, 'I haven't had a chance to take care of the list you sent me yet. it's been a bad week here for much...'

Kaine nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'if they're prize items, the mall mobs should be helpful with it'

Chunk says, 'mall mobs?'

Kaige says to Kaine, 'I'll try to get it set up later and catch you... '

Kaine thanks Kaige heartily.

LadyAce says, 'oh, mobs that store prize items when they're retired'

LadyAce says, 'to ease reimbs'

LadyAce says, 'I need to reorganize the machine one, it's way too spammy :P'

Kaine says, 'I havent seen them, are they around here?'

LadyAce says, 'they're imm only'

Kaige says, 'it's an imm only thing'

Kaine nods solemnly.

Kaine says, 'Back to these mall mobs, are there many of them?'

LadyAce says, '2 maybe'

Rhone says, 'and exactly what IS a mall mob...and why cant I shop there!'

LadyAce says, 'prize machine and elfgame'

Rhone pouts.

Rhone says, 'ahhh'

LadyAce says, 'it's an automated mob for making prize items for reimbs'

Kaige says, 'it's a mob that makes the imm's like easier instead of having to redo colored and special strings by hand'

Kaige says, 'err life too'

Rhone nods solemnly.

Rhone says, 'I miss that elfgame'

Rhone sighs loudly.

Kae says, 'so do Cheyla and I'

Rhone nods her agreement with Kae.

Chocorua says, 'lots of work for so much abuse'

Quelron says to Kae, 'any thoughts on doing another any time soon?'

Rhone says, 'all that work, and ruined by a few bored-enough-to-complain players'

Rhone growls.

Kae says to Quelron, 'we're thinking about it but I'm not giving dates and it may be years into the future, depending on the attitude of certain people'

Quelron nods solemnly.

Kae says to Rhone, 'yeah, pretty much, time could be spent better on other more serious stuff if it's really such a big deal'

Kaine says, 'oh, sorry, was wondering if there had been any thought given to making a prize string museum, for those nostalgivc people...'

Kae says, 'alejandro's house?'

Kae ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says to Kaine, 'people have suggested it...doesn't seem like an impossible idea, but wouldn't be one I'd take on since I'm so booked up'

Kaine nods solemnly.

Lost String Due to Scroll Use?

Chunk says, 'oh has to do with the same sorta thing.. i lost a string due to a scroll poofin it'

Chunk says, 'any chance i can get the string back or is it just gone for good etc?'

Chunk says, 'not big problems.. was selling/giving them away anyway heh'

Chunk says, 'heh not too worried about it :) just wondering if anything will come of it :)'

LadyAce says, 'report it as a bug, and if the head coder thinks it's a bug, you'll get a reimb'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'did :)'

LadyAce says, 'okie :)'

Chunk flops about helplessly.

Area Updates and Idea Channel

Rhone says, 'well, ok..its off the subject.. but'

Rhone says, 'if an old area, that has been here since time... can they still be updated?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Rhone.

LadyAce says, 'sure, we update old areas semi-regularly'

Rhone says, 'I have been in Somme a lot recently, and its a great area... well, could be'

Kaine chuckles politely.

Rhone giggles at Kae.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Rhone.

LadyAce says, 'just takes time & energy'

LadyAce smiles at Rhone.

Rhone says, 'unless I am missing a lot of things there, there could be great miniquests, and more mob interaction... all the mobs seem pretty unwilling to speak there, which is a shame really'

Kae says to Rhone, 'ooh, here's a fix for that'

Kae froths.

Kaige says to Rhone, 'some areas are easier to update than others... the activity level of the author.. interest and knowledge of people who are willing to maintain it..'

Rhone nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kae says to Rhone, 'the idea channel is your friend, when you go somewhere and see a mob that ought to do something, idea it like a nut'

Sandra says, '10 more hours in the day...'

Rhone giggles at Kae.

Kaige says, 'somme's just one of those that's kinda in limbo like greece used to be'

Kaige says, 'I've updated a few minor things on it this summer, but mostly just typos and internal things.. nothing more than spit polish so to speak'

Rhone says to Kae, 'I have been the past few days I think...but thought it useless since its SO old'

Kae says, 'no, not at all useless'

Sandra says, 'oh, it's never useless. We do update all areas. Just some take longer to get to ;)'

Kae says, 'at some point, some builder is goign to have the time to overhaul it, and then a nice big idea file is a really good source of inspiration'

LadyAce says, 'it's not as old as many areas on the mud'

Kaige says, 'if the ideas are there... someone can run with them at some point.... so ideas like that are never pointless'

Rhone nods her agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'Agrabah and Tara are older, and they're in beautiful shape :)'

Kaige says, 'just may take a while to see them executed'

Kae says, 'heck, I have 3 years old ideas sitting in quebec waiting for my update'

Kae ignores everything, lost in her own little world.

Rhone says, 'yeah, its a great area, took me a few days to figure things out there'

LadyAce says, 'but it does save the imms some work to get a sense from players what specific things they'd notice and enjoy'

Rhone chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'otherwise we're building based only on what we'd enjoy and notice and what people have already told us, etc.'

LadyAce says, 'more input can be very helpful'

Rhone says, 'so if ya see planes and cars and stuff ALL OVER indus...it wasnt me!!!'

LadyAce giggles.

Rhone ducks under LadyAce.

Kae laughs.

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce tickles Rhone.

Kae says to Rhone, 'are you kidding? I'm DYING to see the North Africa update and get to ride tanks'

Kae wants to drive a tank through SL or something.

Rhone laughs at Kae.

Myrella laughs.

Pets and Hirelings, ETA?

Chunk says, 'housings been in for a bit now.. and now we have a pke system along side the pkok.. how far off are the clanhall mobs/player pets etc?'

Sandra says, 'noooooooooo'

LadyAce says, 'not being worked on atm....'

Chunk laughs.

Kaige says, 'indefinitely'

Chocorua says, 'pets ick ugh nonono'

Chunk says, 'but mules and cars are still possible coming more?'

LadyAce says, 'which means : we think it's hard'

Sandra says, 'it's way way way way way too hard. Rufus tried it and went nuts'

Kaine has always wanted a horse.

Chunk nods solemnly.

Rhone says, 'eh, I get enuff stray dogs in my house as it is'

Kaige says, 'mules and carts are building side.... pets/hirelings still needs code support'

Rhone chuckles politely.

Chunk nods solemnly.

LadyAce giggles at Rhone.

Kae hoards grizzlies in her mort's house.

Chunk says, 'thinking that if i remember right.. mules/wagons were going to be used to haul stuff around etc'

Kaige says, 'are being used...'

LadyAce says to Chunk, 'they can be used for that, yup :) try and see'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'crap i missed it coming in!?'

Chunk peers around intently.

Sandra nods her agreement with Chunk.

Chunk says, 'doh'

Sandra says, 'nonmech vehickies have been in for a while'

Chunk ponders if you could ever us an SL hound to carry stuff...

Rhone giggles at Chunk.

Kae says, 'would prolly eat the merchant'

LadyAce says to Chunk, 'they've been in a while'

Chunk says, 'or the horse!'

Chunk grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'er, yes, what she said'

Kaige says, 'then they were out for a while... and now they've been back since spring'

Chunk says to Kae, 'that comes in fun ;)'

LadyAce says, 'they've gone in gradually'

Chunk nods solemnly.

Chunk says, 'kk ill have to check that out :)'

Using/Targeting Items on Furniture?

Myrella says, 'how come I cant target items with spells when they are resting on something?'

Myrella grumbles.

Myrella says, 'I can see the point if they are in something but if in plain sight...'

LadyAce says, 'the code doesn't know that they're really in plain sight'

Kaige says, 'other than in look'

LadyAce says, 'it thinks of them as being "in a container" essentially, I think'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Myrella says, 'well thats dumb'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rhone says, 'yeah, we were in Pitts the other night, ordered pizza, went to the picnic tables and had to throw the Pizza pan on the ground to eat it'

Rhone chuckles politely.

Sandra giggles.

Rhone says, 'TOTALLY ruined the rp when ya gotta eat pizza off the ground!'

Rhone rolls her eyes heavenward.

Rhone snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'well, it's a matter of complexity in the code :)'

Kaine says, 'mmmm , floor pizza.'

Sandra says, 'pretend you throw down a blanket first!'

Kaige says, 'we support GET OBJ OBJ not GET OBJ OBJ OBJ'

Kaige says, 'or deeper...'

LadyAce says, 'sometimes to get features in, we do it the do-able way instead of the impossibly complex way'

Rhone says, 'well, we didnt need a blanket, we were sitting at the picnic tables in the park!!'

Rhone laughs.

Rhone nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra giggles.

Rhone says to Sandra, 'Next time tho, we will bring a blanket!'

Rhone giggles.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra nods her agreement with Rhone.

LadyAce giggles.

Sandra says, 'it's a nice place to picnic!'

Kaige says, 'the other thing about those obj on objs'

Rhone nods her agreement with Sandra.

Kaige says, 'not all the "slots" are "on" or ones where the items would be easily accessible'

Myrella says, 'well on a shelf or desk is pretty easily accessable'

Myrella says, 'and thats the ones I usually see'

LadyAce says, 'it'd take more code support than what we have, but we can take it as a feature suggestion :)('

LadyAce smiles at Myrella.

Myrella chuckles politely.

Why Only One Slot for Arms?

Madoc says, 'how come you only have one slot for arm eq but you have two arms???'

LadyAce says, 'the idea is something like sleeves'

Madoc says, 'but what about nuada's silver ARM'

Kaige says, 'because we assume for simplicity's sake that you're wearing the thing(s) on both upper arms.'

Madoc says, 'notice singular'

LadyAce says, 'sure, there's a level where it's artificial :)'

Kaige says, 'we also have a single ARM slot, that is for dangling large shields over... HELP HANDS explains some of it I think.'

LadyAce says, 'we just don't offer infinite slots, and so there's an arbitrary list.'

LadyAce says, 'enough to be realistic, not to many to be overwhelming'

Kae wants 10 finger slots and a belly button one too.

Kae nods to herself.

Kaige says, 'we also only have one LEGS slot... and one feet slot... the alternate messages for wear slots have gone a long way to making those things look nicer in general tho'

Madoc says, 'why not base it on gladiator type armor with full armor on one arm and shield and half armor on the other?'

Kaige says, 'you could do that.. but it's gonna come as one object in our database'

Kae says, 'would run into trouble with other fighting traditions too, there are shields that were the primary weapon etc'

LadyAce says, 'there are a million ways we might've done it :)'

Kae says, 'after all, not all our areas are european tradition'

Madoc says, 'well ill sugest a complete idea thru idea'

LadyAce says, 'we picked one and have gone with it, and you can use aux slots to fill out the rest'

Kaige says, 'there's also the balance between the number of slots we already have... it's already a nightmare to juggle, we don't need more.'

LadyAce says, 'does that cover it for you? I know it's not a 100% satisfying reply :)'

LadyAce smiles at Madoc.

Madoc says, 'if it was 100% the game wouldnt be fun'

LadyAce giggles.

Why Can't We Trade in Practices?

Kaine says, 'skill reimbursals - trading in a skill for a practice via redemption points or a quest - why is this unworkable?'

Chunk says, 'specially for players who werent around possibly? sniffle'

Kaige says, 'because some of us believe you should make meaningful choices with your characters and that redeems points are too easy to get'

LadyAce says, 'remanufacturing yourself can lead to a serious loss of connection with the char'

Kaine says, 'So maybe not via redeems, but perhaps something harder?'

Kae says, 'rerolling the character and choosing differently qualifies as 'something harder'...'

Kaige says, 'it's no fun if everyone can tweak and tweak and tweak until you have no disadvantages...'

Kaine says, 'Dont people in RL go through on average 3 different career changes?'

Chunk says to Kaige, 'its no fun to miss reimbs either :('

Kaige says, 'yeah. but I didn't get refunded my tuition for each one'

LadyAce says, 'players are so clever! It's hard to make something fair and fun but also difficult. Even if we wanted to do that sort of thing, I don't know what direction we'd go with it'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'case by case basis!'

Chunk nods to himself.

LadyAce says, 'sounds like a recipe for unfairness right off :)'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'like me is ok because i wasnt here due to death in family etc'

Kaine says, 'A yearly amnesty - trade in a skill this month only?'

Chunk sniffles quietly.

Kae says to Chunk, 'I'm not saying you're lying mind you, but boy, that's easy to say'

Kae says to Chunk, 'if you had to come up with a nasty reason people would lie left and right about it'

Chunk says to Kae, 'aye i know how it can be abusable etc etc'

Chunk nods solemnly.

Rhone chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'I think we don't want to be in the business of making those kinds of judgements'

LadyAce says, 'too much room for unfairness'

Kae certainly won't.

Kaige says, 'we also make the reimb periods fairly lengthy not just one day or week, they've usually been about 2 months.'

Chunk says to Kae, 'its cool tho its not like im dying because i dont have new skills and missed out etc etc'

LadyAce says, 'we publish them in the LT too, so if you can't be around to read boards, you can hear that you need to take 5 minutes and step online to do the reimb'

Kae says to Chunk, 'if it's any consolation I was here and I still forgot to redeem half my characters'

Kae just doesn't have an excuse.

Chunk says to Kae, 'heh you a busy gal tho :)'

LadyAce says, 'I can't think of very many situations where 5 spare minutes didn't exist.'

LadyAce says, 'maybe for people deployed to the desert :P'

Kaine says, 'Would being able to change a skill a year make too much of a difference?'

LadyAce says, 'maybe they wouldn't have those 5 minutes, is what I mean.'

Rhone says, 'I vote for amnesty day next year'

Rhone giggles.

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'or honest ppl that really had my situation..'

LadyAce says, 'I don't want to be callous. But even in the face of tragedy...one can take care of things'

Chunk says, 'but yeah i was wondering dont wanna force the point etc more of hoping to get a bone tossed my way :)'

LadyAce says, 'and if you decide not to, it's understandable, but there are consequences.'

Chunk nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Chunk understands completely.

LadyAce says, 'I know it's harsh to say it :/ it's not out of lack of sympathy.'

Kaige says, 'as we told Santus last week, we can't start making exceptions at this late date.'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rhone says, 'not to be rude to anyone...but taking care of things... Legend might be kinda low on some levels of Priorities tho'

Kae says, 'absolutely'

Chunk nods his agreement with Rhone.

LadyAce says, 'oh, I totally understand that too. But we have to be as consistent as we can be'

Rhone nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'but then, even when the storm passes, it's still just a game and that one thing shouldn't really be the end of the world either'

Rhone nods her agreement with Kae.

Chunk says, 'but once they make exceptions.. others will complain etc etc rolling cycle of chaos and whining.. which is why i understand completey'

Kae says, 'not when the alternative is creating favoritism hell :)'

LadyAce says, 'and boy, with all the inconsistencies we already have to live with ... we really really avoid those we can.'

Rhone says to Kae, 'absolutely'

Chunk nods his agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'yea, in part it's a matter of keeping those lines drawn clear and bright'

Chunk says, 'and its never hard to remake, well.. remake would be painful but make another char isnt so bad..'

Rhone says to Kae, 'I mean absolutely, it IS just a game'

Rhone smiles at Kae.

Kaine winces in sympathy with Chunk.

Kaine says, 'eww, dirty word, remake.'

LadyAce says, 'Shall we go on ahead to the next question? Madoc is up next.'

Rhone shudders.

Kae's remade all her characters but one at least thrice.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kae's head.

Chunk giggles.

Kae says, 'saves me the trouble of inventing a new RP'

Gad chortles at Kae's feeble witticism.

Kaine says, 'but that would mean... klevelling *shudder*'

Rhone says to Kae, 'I would CRY to have to reroll...and kill them off originally'

Rhone shudders.

LadyAce says, 'aw, levelling isn't THAT bad.'

Lorenzo says to Kae, 'I just cannot learn to level that fast. I'm really really bad.'

Kae says to Rhone, 'quick little playerdelete, 3 mins later you're back in business :)'

LadyAce says, 'newbies do it all the time, you can too :)'

Kae says, 'level fast? who cares about fast?'

Rhone goes EEK! at Kae in distress - isn't Kae an awful person for teasing?

Rhone says to Kae, 'thats murder!!'

Rhone giggles.

Kaine says, 'I really dislike it. Tried a few times and get bored by lvl 20.'

Lorenzo says to Kae, 'well, I'm just thinking math. all your chars, 3 times, that's a lot of time put in'

Kae says to Lorenzo, 'well, I'd spend that time playing anyway, might as well play stat combos I like'

How to Become an Imm?

Madoc says, 'what all do you have to know to become an IMM'

LadyAce says, 'there's an application process'

LadyAce says, 'you need a project, spare time, knowledge of the mud, creativity, energy, spare time, and spare time.'

Kae says to Rhone, 'nuh uh, it's recycling good characters with different stats'

Madoc says, 'what i mean do you have to know programing, the game'

Madoc says, 'im on 10 to 20 hours a day'

LadyAce says, 'if you imm into the coding dept, you hafta know some C'

Gad says, 'There be a level requirement, aint there?'

LadyAce says, 'building, have to be a good writer with ideas and such'

Madoc says, 'i was thinking pr'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'heh you make it sound easy =p'

Kaige says, 'you should definitely know the game... programming isn't a requirement except for C in the coding dept... building it helps if you can script or program, but isn't a requirement'

LadyAce says, 'PR is more like creativity, good social interactions, that sorts of thing.'

Rhone says to Chunk, 'doesnt she tho?'

Rhone giggles.

LadyAce says, 'well, I'm trying to make it speedy for the Q&A purpose'

Madoc says, 'thats what i do'

Chunk nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'there are lots of pages of documentation on it all'

LadyAce says, 'I recommend reading up and seeing what you think'

Madoc says, 'i have my moments when people get upset with me but i have more friends than enemies'

Chunk says, 'ima stab in on that about building.. you guys do all your building in what?'

Chunk says, 'a form of scripts? olc? unique way?'

Kae says, 'basically a C-based language written for legend'

LadyAce says, 'building is in flatfiles, custom language'

Kaige says, 'I used to use Word... but these days I use a text editor BBEdit for the mac,, and vi in unix for smaller changes.'

Chocorua says, 'sadistscript'

Chunk prefers olc bigtime..

Kae says, 'BBedit is God'

Kae nods to herself.

Chunk snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'we don't use automated tools like that'

Rhone peers around intently.

Kaine chuckles politely.

Gad thinks just typing is hard enough.

Gad nods to himself.

Rhone beams at Gad delightedly.

Chocorua uses vi

Rhone smiles at Gad.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Chocorua.

LadyAce says, 'yea, vi all the way'

Chunk says, 'automated is so fast tho =p'

LadyAce says, 'fast is NOT key.'

Gad nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Chunk says, 'well true, but is when you have everything plotted and written up on word :p'

Gad says, 'Slow an' steady... like that one guy's turtle eh'

Rhone chuckles politely at Gad's feeble witticism.

Chunk says, 'tho it sounds you just plug it in from a word doc etc..'

Kae says, 'except that Word in specific tends to create gazillions of gremlins, yeah'

Chunk says, 'hehe nod'

LadyAce says, 'but you basically write-then-test, no middle bit.'

Kaige says, 'the problem with olc and legend is mostly the acts system. it's WAY too powerful to have online with as many ways we have to crash the mud. Also.. with most olc, you can't easily go in and look at how the particular mob/room and acts line up, making it harder to debug in the long run'

Chunk says, 'aah nice very true'

LadyAce says, 'personally I have found olcs painful'

Kae does OLC, sorta.

LadyAce says, 'hard to use to edit things like typos'

Kae wanders on her mud, using her feedback channels to log stuff in the appropriate rooms.

Gad smiles and nods, completly lost.

An aura of heavenly light appears above Gad's head.

Rhone nods her agreement with Gad.

Chocorua says, 'and if it's harder, people who are serious about it will stick with it and hacks will drop it'

Rhone is too

Kaige says, 'it's good for putting a set of rooms down fast and walking around them to make sure you have the grid of the map right... but that's about it'

Kaige says, 'olc = online creation'

Kae waves a piece of checkered paper. Map!

Gad smiles and nods... again.

Gad snickers softly.

Chunk giggles.

Kaige has created a quill pen!

Kaige gives a quill pen to Kae.

Kae thanks Kaige heartily.

Kae adds a few more rooms in the corner by the tea smudge.

Advantages for Long-time Chars?

Rhone says, 'ok, ready for another question that was asked 100 times..but here goes'

Chunk snickers softly.

Chunk says to Rhone, 'i do the same =p'

Rhone says, 'I know ya dont like to use redeems to give ingame advantage, but there isnt any plan to reward the longtime chars with anything? like maybe an extra stat here and there for maybe 10 redeems or something?'

Rhone says, 'or maybe something to use that extra old shield slot that is unused now? I know its been asked before, but I am behind on reading my QandA's'

Kae says, 'we have been discussing long term rewards, but I seriously wouldn't expect to see stat bonuses in there'

LadyAce says, 'as much as we love and rely on old players, it's a tricky business to make rewards for them'

Chocorua says, 'pkill makes that practically impossible'

Kaine says, 'What rewards were you thinking?'

Kae says, 'after all, people like me who don't work and can be here 18 hours a day would have an ABSURD advantage'

Gad says, 'Like somethin' fer the xpblackhole to use his stuffs fer?'

Rhone says to Chunk, 'thats all thats left'

LadyAce says, 'fun stuff to do is part of what we aim for'

Rhone says, 'we have that shield slot tho..eternally empty'

Rhone chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'creating a world where newbies don't have much prayer of being part of the powerset of old players, because they weren't here 8 years ago....'

LadyAce says, 'old players are so important ... but so are new ones, and it's a tricky business to balance their needs'

Chunk says, 'bah we still have old gear in game so ===ppp'

Chunk ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says, 'too many juicy rewards....it feels pointless to be starting out just now'

Kae says, 'some of us are still pondering ways to get rid of old gear completely :p'

Chunk is and always has been against old gear.

Chunk says to Kae, 'yank it!'

LadyAce says, 'friend of mine plays everquest...his advice is, don't start, cuz if you weren't there way back when, it's too late to catch up'

Gad is quite adept at dt'ing old gear

Chunk says, 'go through pfiles!'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Chunk nods to himself.

Kaine nods his agreement with Gad.

Chunk says, 'yall did for the m32? or whichever the gun was =p'

Gad says, 'm-82?'

Chunk nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'you have no idea what kind of job it is to go thru all the pfiles :)'

Chunk says, 'yeah thats the one'

Chocorua says to LadyAce, 'these days its easy to catch up on eq .. heh'

Chunk says to Kae, 'hehe oh im sure its big =p'

Chocorua says to LadyAce, 'just takes a lot of time to stay caught up'

LadyAce says, 'ah.'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Kae says, 'I know for certain that I'd be able to get absurd benefits if I really put some of my time into hardcore xp running, and that'd hardly be fair to other players'

Kae says, 'if we gave stat redeems, that is'

Gad nods his agreement with Kae.

LadyAce says, 'at any rate, I hope it's apparent that it's an overarching issue that can change the mud in large ways -- not just a throwing of a bone'

Kae says, 'players who reallyreallyreally want to can hit 100 million xp in two weeks'

Kae can count. Ugh. Stat redeems bad.

Kaine is completely boggled.

Rhone nods her agreement with Kae.

Gad says to Kae, 'but where be the fun in developin' a char like that'

Kaine says, 'wow'

Kae says to Gad, 'beats me, but people would do it, particularly in pkill'

Chunk nods his agreement with Kae.

Gad nods his agreement with Kae.

Rhone says, 'just seems after ya redeem a few times, there isnt much to look forward to'

Rhone chuckles politely.

Gad says, 'truer stuff aint been said'

Kae says to Rhone, 'agreed'

Kaine nods his agreement with Rhone.

LadyAce says, 'It's a definite challenge to the design :)'

LadyAce says, 'you can evolve your interests'

Gad says, 'Jus' give all the redeems to me'

Gad nods to himself.

Kaige says, 'if all you're looking for is automated handouts of cheese for running on the xp treadmill, nope.. you can keep running but doing so won't reward you forever...'

LadyAce says, 'explore more, RP more, pk more, mobslash more....'

LadyAce says, 'whatever you're not good at, go get good at it :)'

Kaige says, 'finding different ways to play the game... that could be rewarding too'

Kae says, 'remake!'

Rhone ponders LadyAce's existence.

Rhone goes EEK! at Kae in distress - isn't Kae an awful person for teasing?

Rhone says to Kae, 'NEVER!!!'

Rhone shudders.

LadyAce says, 'level newbies with DISadvantages of your choice'

Kae grins evilly.

Kaine says, 'ick'

LadyAce says, 'try to create chars that can do x and y but not Z'

Rhone says to LadyAce, 'done most of that already'

LadyAce says, 'some people love to play games that way'

Rhone giggles.

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Kae says, 'well'

Gad says, 'Can do xyz and pdq too.'

LadyAce says, 'try to get to lev 50 without ever sleeping to heal.'

Rhone giggles at LadyAce.

Kae says, 'no matter what, eventually you're going to feel you've been everywhere and killed everynone'

LadyAce says, 'try to get to lev 50 without going afk, or chatting'

Chunk says, 'raha i remember the first one i wanted to ask now!'

Kae never sleeps to heal, been there, done that.

Gad says, 'Sleep? You can sleep?'

LadyAce says, 'try to get to lev 50 without a weapon, with only newbie gear, with only a sponge...'

Lorenzo says, 'my advice: never build a house.'

Rhone says, 'I am so desparate...I am trying to find out how many gallons of fuel to get the plane from London to SF'

Rhone laughs.

Gad laughs.

LadyAce giggles.

Kae says, 'there does come a time where it's the community and the people that keeps players here, not the game itself'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kae.

Gad thinks of where the sponge might be strung.

Rhone nods her agreement with Kae.

Kaine says to Rhone, 'I used to fly Saif around in a sopwith pup.'

Kaine chuckles politely.

Rhone giggles at Kaine.

Rhone says to Kaine, 'I have had SO many test dummies lately'

Rhone laughs.

LadyAce giggles.

Rhone says to Kaine, 'just for those reasons'

Improved Healing with Beds?

Chunk says, 'is it possible at all.. feasible.. anything.. for bedrooms in houses.. beds only able to be put in there.. and beds in general have a better healing rate when used?'

Kaige says, 'not easily without object acts.'

Gad says, 'I like that'

Kae says, 'think distant future'

Kae giggles.

Sandra says, 'think probably not at all ;)'

Lorenzo says to Kaige, 'oooh, there are object acts in planning?'

Lorenzo begins to glow.

Sandra says, 'for the bed thing, not the objacts'

Kae says to Sandra, 'whether it happens or not, it's certainly in the distant future code-wise'

Chunk says, 'i know its not hard to code and make objs have a regen rate.. may be here tho with your unique stuff..'

Kaige nods her agreement with Kae.

Kae says to Sandra, 'and then we can have the other argument about game balance ;)'

Kaige says to Kae, 'considering they've moved so far in the past 3 years'

Kaige sighs loudly.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra comforts Kaige.

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'there's been some work done, but it's not an easy task'

Kaige did a prototype, but knows there's a better way to do them.

Chunk says, 'i just think housing should have more benefits and be more realistic in that relaxing regen aspect'

Gad says, 'That dang pk thingy'

Chunk says, 'anyway quickly moving on cuz thats bombed i know =p'

Kaige says, 'and there's a heck of a lot of grunt work to go yet converting existing acts to work with objects.'

Chunk says, 'guns guns guns..'

LadyAce says, 'well, I think that we don't necessarily want everyone running off to their houses to heal all the time'

Gad nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'it's better for the community if folks are out and about a large part of the time'

Are All Guns in Spec?

Chunk says, 'are all guns at spec these days? heard they were changing to 8 net possible.. and this is a 2 parter..'

Sandra says, 'all guns are at or under spec'

Sandra says, 'and only 2h guns are possible 8 net'

Chunk says, 'and to take a shot at guns atm.. why do they suck so much? =p'

Chunk says, 'bows do more damage than guns and thats kinda sad..'

Sandra says, 'guns can shoot every round, bows every 2. do the math'

Sandra ruffles Chunk's hair playfully.

Chunk says, 'ive done the math i shoot without a weapon which makes them both about the same speed =p'

Lorenzo says, 'and frankly, I'd rather be shot with a pistol than a nice bow.'

Sandra shakes her head in disagreement with Chunk.

Gad says to Lorenzo, 'depends on the head of the arrow'

Gad nods to himself.

Kaige says, 'guns also don't have to be reloaded as often as bows in general'

Chunk says, 'no? hmm longbow and sureshot seemed to shoot about the same speed.. using those as what i feel would/should be the best in game..'

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'did you have another question or did you get it asked in there?'

Sandra says, 'to shoot a bow, it takes a round to shoot, and a round to load'

Lorenzo says to Gad, 'probably... but a bow leaves a lovely path for me to lose all my insides, where a bullet wound can close up more easily'

Sandra says, 'to shoot a gun, it takes a round to shoot, a round to shoot a round to shoot'

Sandra says, 'etc'

Chunk says, 'reloading was pretty fast.. maybe it was a bug?'

Chunk looks up into the sky and ponders.

Lorenzo says to Gad, 'not that I know anything about it. Just supposing.'

Chunk says, 'ill have to retest that lag..'

Chunk says, '2nd part of question..'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Possible to be Shooter Only?

Chunk says, 'is it possible for this idea to be used..'

Chunk says, 'thinking along the lines of 3handed, in spec would be.. guns/bows to use as primary weapons'

Gad blinks.

Sandra wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Gad peers at his 2 hands

LadyAce says, 'primary weapons code has been in before, even won best bug :P'

Chunk says, 'say 3handed as in bows are 2handed yet you can use a weapon etc'

LadyAce says, 'balance is hard to wrangle.'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'it was messy'

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'if we figured a good way to do it, I can imagine it going in someday, but it's not being actively developed'

Chunk says, 'would love to be able to make a character.. that uses only a gun/bow.. but have good damage with that weapon to compete as a normal fighter'

Chunk says, 'mayber perhaps damroll and 100 perception adding to the damage..'

Gad says, 'And have a increase is rooms to be able to shoot through...'

Chunk says, 'or spirit and 100 perception..'

Sandra says to Gad, 'that we've talked about doing. But I dunno what ever came of it'

LadyAce says, 'there's definitely no shortage of good ideas :) it's more a matter of good code strategies.'

Gad nods his agreement with Sandra.

Gad says, 'Remember readin' it'

Chunk says, 'actually.. im in the process of making such a character.. probably half healer tho but just using a gun'

LadyAce points at Lorenzo.

LadyAce says, 'give it up then, buster!'

LadyAce says, 'this is a stickup!'

Chunk snickers softly.

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'that would be cool to be able to do that to the local bankers!'

Chunk looks up into the sky and ponders.

Using Owned Fountains in Housing?

Lorenzo says, 'I noticed a while back that people who weren't my friends weren't able to use facilities in my house, but I didn't notice exactly when the change went in, or what the change was exactly. I'm curious about the problem and solution.'

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'I think it was due to your accept list'

Lorenzo blinks.

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'weren't you like, accept all and got owned? :P'

Rhone sighs loudly.

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'no, never been AA'

Akai_Hayate says, 'you got pwned tho'

Lorenzo sticks his tongue out at Akai_Hayate. =P

Lorenzo says to Akai_Hayate, 'yeah, thanks'

Lorenzo says to Akai_Hayate, 'I appreciated that'

Akai_Hayate says, 'i'm here to help'

Lorenzo chuckles politely.

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'I don't remember the specifics of what you ran into, then....'

Lorenzo says, 'well, my doppel for instance used to be able to drop things inside, and now can't.'

Lorenzo says, 'and other people used to be able to drink from my fountain.'

Kaige says to Lorenzo, 'housing issues like that are usually friendship issues, not accepts.. unless I'm unclear on what your question was'

Sandra says, 'they can't drink from your fountain?'

Kaine shakes his head.

Gad says, 'You have him befriended?'

Gad snickers softly.

Lorenzo says to Sandra, 'I don't think so'

LadyAce says, 'drinking from your fountain should be possible for anyone'

Sandra says, 'I think that the doppel thing went in a while ago because you could use your doppel to load up somebody elses house'

Lorenzo looks up into the sky and ponders.

Kaige says, 'doppels can't drop things because people were losing stuff and not knowing why... it wasn't being saved/owned'

LadyAce says, 'ahright.'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says, 'and what Kaige said'

Kaige says, 'and go over the housing limits.'

LadyAce remembers that now

Gad says to Sandra, 'Cant drink from someones watersource if you aint befriended'

Lorenzo says, 'oh, hmm'

Sandra says, 'funky'

Sandra says, 'I dunno when that happened :)'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Gad.

Chunk says, 'why is it you cant expel yourself from someones house these days?'

Lorenzo says, 'that's new'

LadyAce says, 'that's an interesting thing for us to have done.'

Lorenzo giggles at LadyAce.

Rhone says to Gad, 'right'

Sandra says, 'it wasn't me!'

Kae's gonna scoot, need to talk to other imm elsewhere.

Chunk says, 'or atleast i couldnt when i walked into a friends house..'

Lorenzo says, 'it's kinda disappointing, cause I leave my house open to the public for drinking in the desert.'

Lorenzo says, 'and now it's really useless to anyone but me'

Rhone smiles at Lorenzo.

LadyAce says, 'bug it? maybe?'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'me?'

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'okay'

Gad used to wander into a certain house by Mosul and drink and sit....

LadyAce says, 'the fountain thingy'

Chunk giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'thought it musta been intentional'

Rhone says to LadyAce, 'so you SHOULD be able to drink from someone elses owned fountain???'

LadyAce would think so.

Rhone says to LadyAce, 'its been that way a while, or so I found'

LadyAce says, 'what stops you? why stop people?'

Akai_Hayate says, 'unless they are a mage.'

Chunk says, 'does that mean you can flavor/foul them?'

LadyAce likes the sharing of water

Akai_Hayate says, 'then its probably magically protected'

Gad says, 'Used to get drunk from a funky fountain in a cave by Del Raida..'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Gad's head.

Akai_Hayate says, 'and magically delicious. Like lucky charms'

Chunk says to LadyAce, 'that would be bad bad if they did that..'

LadyAce says, 'drinking and fouling not the same, I wouldn't imagine.'

Rhone giggles at Gad.

Sandra says, 'flavouring shouldn't work, but drinking should'

Chunk nods solemnly.

Gad nods his agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce points at Madoc.

Lorenzo says, 'yay, it's a bug'

Lorenzo stands on his tip-toes and does a Snoopy-like dance of joy!

Chunk would hope so..

Lorenzo smiles happily.

Sandra giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'I'm glad :)'

LadyAce giggles at Lorenzo.

How's the Level-to-5 Game Work?

Madoc says, 'ok i understand that first to lvl 5 means the first person to get to lvl 5 but how does it work, do we go in as guests or do we actually start a new character and how do you know we all start at the same time?'

LadyAce says, 'you start a new char and we all start when I say GO'

Rhone says to Madoc, 'its USELESS!! trust me!!'

Rhone giggles.

Gad chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'I can tell from looking at your xp and time played and eq and such'

Gad says, 'Aint useless...'

Sandra says, 'just be glad I can't be in it! ;)'

Sandra stares off into space.

Madoc says, 'how do we know when you say go is that when we rent out'

Chunk says, 'heh that takes like 2-3 mins tops to hit 5 =p'

LadyAce giggles at Sandra.

Rhone says to Gad, 'well, to some maybe not..but to me it is horrid!!'

Rhone giggles.

LadyAce says, 'we all join up in the OOC'

Gad chuckles politely.

Sandra says to Chunk, 'in indust'

LadyAce says, 'then i say go, and you go'

Rhone says to Chunk, 'Ancient and Med maybe'

Madoc nods solemnly.

Chunk says to Sandra, 'in indus? ok that may take a bit longer =p\'

LadyAce says, 'with chars already made in advance, we all assemble'

Rhone says to LadyAce, 'NO NO!! cancel it!!'

LadyAce says, 'make sense?'

Rhone nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra giggles.

Kaine says, 'How long do most people take?'

Rhone nods her agreement with Chunk.

LadyAce says to Rhone, 'methinks some folks might be sad if I did.'

Rhone says to Kaine, 'in Indus?'

Rhone shudders.

Kaine nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'fastest people take half hour or so'

Madoc says, 'and you can only kill in indus?'

LadyAce says, 'only in indus'

Sandra says, 'in indust it'd take me about 15-20 min'

Rhone says to LadyAce, 'in INdus??'

Rhone says to LadyAce, 'your kidding!'

Lorenzo says, '30-45 minutes for ancient & medieval. Lots longer for industrial.'

Kaige says, 'kill/quest/explore, yes'

LadyAce says, 'takes some creative thinking :)'

Rhone says, 'I can do 15 in Ancient..and 25 in Med..'

Lorenzo says, 'but sandra built industrial, so.'

Sandra says, 'now get me in anc, and it takes 10'

Lorenzo giggles at Sandra.

Rhone nods her agreement with Sandra.

Sandra drools contentedly.

Kaige peers at Lorenzo, looking him up and down.

LadyAce says, 'well, she didn't build all of it :P'

Rhone sighs loudly.

Sandra is a quick leveler is all.

LadyAce says, 'Kaige built most of it'

LadyAce says, 'just Pitts is all Sandra did'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce attempts to prod Lorenzo but Lorenzo isn't about to go anywhere.

Rhone grumbles.

Kaige says, 'actually Ptah built most of ind'

Lorenzo sighs loudly.

Rhone says to Gad, 'you gonna try it?'

Gad peers at himself myopically.

Lorenzo says, 'okay, okay. poor joke.'

LadyAce says, 'but you look after it!'

LadyAce giggles.

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce loses track of who wrote what, you all did so much

Rhone says, 'and WHO mentioned creative thinking??'

Gad says, 'Ya know how long it took Gaddie to get level?'

Rhone peers around intently.

Gad chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, '2nd time is easier than the first!'

Rhone giggles at Gad.

Rhone stomps around.

Chunk snickers softly.

Rhone smiles at Jax.

Why Can't I Go PKE Past Lvl 35?

Akai_Hayate says, 'less of a question more of a whining sessions'

LadyAce says, 'oh.'

Akai_Hayate says, 'about not being able to enable past 35'

Kaine whistles innocently to himself.

Kaige comforts Akai_Hayate.

Sandra says, 'nonononono ;)'

LadyAce says, 'we don't want people pking once and redeeming out quickly'

Sandra says, 'yay!'

Akai_Hayate says, 'just wondering what reasons besides someone being able to enable at 50 and redeem out 20 minutes later (xp pricy pkok really) there are for this limit'

Sandra says, 'you just answered your own question'

Kaige says, 'you have to have yourself as a target for a period of time... no fun if everyon ONLY enables their suped up level 50s'

Sandra says, 'that's the main reason'

Akai_Hayate says, 'but we do the same thing with reject, and it takes less time'

Akai_Hayate peers at herself myopically.

LadyAce says, 'we want people to build and focus and join a community of pkers'

LadyAce says, 'not just flop in and mess around because they're bored lev 50ers'

Sandra says, 'think of pkok as newbie pk, and pke as the real stuff. You're in it for the long haul'

Akai_Hayate mutters under her breath.

Akai_Hayate says to Sandra, 'any plans on a level lowering quest?'

Akai_Hayate nudges Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'no ;)'

Akai_Hayate mutters under her breath.

Sandra says, 'why didn't you enable when we had the limit off?'

Akai_Hayate says, 'cause I didnt wanna perma my other char, but then I never got to redeem'

Akai_Hayate says, 'being in pkok so long when you dont have to perma to get out made me soft! Didnt wanna lose a char'

Akai_Hayate sniffles quietly.

Sandra giggles at Akai_Hayate.

LadyAce pats Akai_Hayate on the head.

How Do Pkok and Pke Differ?

Jax says, 'how do pkok and pke differ?'

Sandra says, 'pkok is toggleable'

Sandra says, 'pke isn't'

Jax nods solemnly.

Jax says, 'and pkok is any level?'

Sandra nods her agreement with Jax.

LadyAce says, 'PKE, you can't turn it off, and it's more stable as a group of people you can fight.'

LadyAce says, 'PKOK, you choose who you fight and when'

Jax says, 'ah'

Kaige says, 'pkok you can drop out of any time pretty much... pke you can't get out of without perma or redeeimg out'

Sandra says, 'pke has limits of 10 as the min to enable and 35 as the max'

Jax says, 'thanks'

LadyAce smiles at Jax.

Jax smiles happily.

How's Progress on Hell?

Jax says, 'so what is the news on the new hell?'

Sandra says, 'it's moving right along'

LadyAce says, 'kae is workin her butt off?'

Jax smirks.

Level-to-5 without XP Rooms?

Jax says, 'maybe the 0-5 contest could be held sometime that only included xp for kills or quests, not xp rooms...'

Jax smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'hard to eliminate that'

LadyAce says, 'you walk into them without meaning to :P'

Jax says, 'I suppose so'

Jax nods solemnly.

Rhone says to Jax, 'yeah, Indus gives NO skills'

Rhone shudders.

Jax smiles at Rhone.

How's PKE Going?

Akai_Hayate says, 'hows pke doing? Gonna get yanked?'

Sandra says, 'it's doing well'

Akai_Hayate mutters under her breath.

Sandra says, 'in fact, the pke people are calmer than some of the pkok ones =P'

LadyAce says, 'thanks all for coming to the forum! This was a great session.'

Kaige waves happily.

Sandra waves happily.

Kaine_jr tips his hat gallantly.

Sandra says, 'good luck to the 1-5 peoples'

Tangarine shudders.

Chunk says to Sandra, 'cringe!'

Sandra giggles.

Chunk says, 'evil!'

Kaige says, 'food time!'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra waves happily.

Chunk laughs.

Tangarine fades...but nothing happens

Tangarine whines.

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Add in polls if you want a player to answer with ALL their characters or not... i only answer with one character of mine, but some players may answer with all of them... this would make the results be very scewed... just a thought *shrug*

We do filter the responses to take this into account. We usually filter by exact ip, and we have several other options available. But in general, the polls should be done by one of your characters, not all as they are usually questions to the PLAYER and out of character by nature.

o How about more coupons? it would make the mud much more fun to customize things, or make a special store where you can buy coupons for like a million gold coins.

Coupons originally started out as special strings handed out as an IOU from the immorts as prizes and thank yous when the immort didn't have the time to do the string or the player couldn't think of an idea for the string on the spot.

As far as more types of them, we've got enough confusion over the various rules for the various types now, we really don't need more types. And the idea of a coupon store definitely would reduce their value and make them not so special. And yes, everyone want everything strung, but it takes memory and disk space to do that.

o Some consistency between low level mobs in different areas would be nice: i.e. rats being nearly identical (klein, tudor).

This is exactly the type of thing that the generic animals project was designed to address. However, not all areas can be updated simultaneously and there are often reasons why a builder would take a seemingly generic animal and make it tougher than the norm. If you have issues with a particular critter that you feel is off, make a bug/idea report beside one of them so it can be addressed by the builder in charge of that area.

o This has been something that's bugged me for a while, but I finally got a good idea about it today. Sometimes when you're attacking a mob, another of the same type will walk in. The one that walks in takes priority and if you use a fight skill.

The best way to deal with this is to only type KICK man once... once the fight has started, the mud knows who you're fighting. Then, you can use KICK with no arguments and the right one will be targeted. You can still use KICK with an argument to target a second mob, but this will work with any fight skill, no matter who you are fighting. It even helps if you are blinded or you find yourself in the dark.

o When you "put" an item but forget to specify where, you simply drop it. I think put shouldn't function as drop. Instead one should get a message such as "put where?

Yes. This is because put calls the same block of code as drop. If you don't supply an argument, it assumes that you want to put it on the ground.

o Since most players online arnt pk and just like to play the game how about you stop making things harder for them instead of making it so the rest of us just start hating to play the game because its so darn'd annoying now.

Actually, usually about half or more of the characters online are pkok enabled these days. So, the possibility that pkill will affect someone online is greater than it used to be. The problem is, when it's player-vs-player, you've got two participants who will be quite vocal if they feel it is unbalanced, whereas in mobkill, players aren't really going to complain if it's in their favor. Also, two players will use skills/spells/tactics in ways against each other in interesting and often unforseen ways. This is why it's seen as such a big deal and imbalances in pkill are also felt in mobkill, so usually aren't for nothing.

o Well I'm not sure but i always thought it was a cyclope, not a cyclops....

Cyclops is the singular, cyclopes is the plural. The uses of it in Greece now reflect this.

o I think there may be a bug on sneak. I typed sneak to turn it on, and then sneak again to turn it off. Both times I was told "You attempt to move silently."

The syntax for SNEAK is type it once to invoke it. Typing it again, will only attempt to SNEAK again, not turn it off. Initiating combat is one way to turn it off again.

o Would it be possible, sometime in the future, to get a few skills, such as 'Craft Trap' and 'Set Trap'. For one, it's make the 'Disarm Trap' skill useful if people could also 'Set Trap' and eventually 'Craft Trap'.

This type of skill addition is on our list for skill trees.

o I'm sure this has been submitted before and turned down but maybe if enough people ask for it, it will be thought about again. Why can't we have a permanent channel named PK - we have gossip because RP stuff was supposed to be moved there so chat could be just what is for saying hello/discussing weather/idle chit chat - seems its would be easier and happier and no one could whine about "a conference being created for it" etc. I'm also sick of [name deleted]'s rand on pk on chat.

The main reason we have not wanted to create a separate pkill channel is that the community's split enough as is between pkill and non-pkill. As far as RP being moved to the Gossip channel, it certainly wasn't mandated or even described as "the RP Channel" but many players choose to use it that way. If you do not wish to receive a particular person's messages on channels, you can GAGCHANNEL them.

o If it doesn't already exist there needs to be a way to force the suppression of leading capital letters on speech.

The default option is to show moods and to place speech tags at the beginning, middle, or end of sentences, based on punctuation and random chance. You can type MOOD OFF or MOOD ON to toggle seeing eloquent speeches, including these altered speech tags.

o I shouldn't be able to learn repair without forge. Or I shouldn't have to have forge to repair.

You can still repair ARMOR, just not WEAPONS without FORGE. If you want to be able to repair both, only then do you need both skills.

o I have no clue how stupid this may sound but overall if mobs were only written to do socials and things while players were in the room that would substantially limit lag or just computations overall.

If there's no connected player character to see them, then no bandwidth lag is associated with it. As far as computations, it's usually negligible.

o You should be able to put stuff in a canoe or boat, I mean think about what you can put in a regular boat or canoe. Granted you would not be walking around with a boat in your hands irl, but the premise for a small about of space should still be there.

You also normally don't have as many things in your equivalent of RL inventory. Most things that you carry, have a container to carry them which you either hold or "equip". We recognized the logic of ships as transports for goods, which is why GROUPBOATS have holds that do just that and single person boats do not.

o Maybe make some of the socials more intuitive such as brandish--> 'brandish gauche bob' sounds like the logical order, or at least to me, but 'brandish bob gauche' is the accepted command.

The reason for the order is the way in which most socials are used. Since most are used on people, the room is searched for characters present with the keyword given, then objects. If two keywords are given, the code again, searches for players, then objects. If the person you want to direct the action to isn't there, why bother searching through all the objects you carry and the room, then look to see who to apply it to?

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