May 29th, 2003

Spell Word Spirit Reqs?

Todd says, 'spir reqs for spellwords?'

Todd says, 'will 43, which lets me have all words and meditate, do I need to worry?'

Kaige says to Todd, 'you won't have to worry with that much'

Todd nods solemnly.

Todd smiles at LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'it's not high, just enough to make it impossible to completely dump and still have decent spellwords'

Kaige says, 'Blame it on Sandra's 1 spirit 3c mages'

Kaige says to Todd, 'tho I think they are higher for each circle you go up.. but you shouldn't have any problems'

Shooting With Vehicles?

Oww says, 'i was looking at the help for boat earlier an saw it say about vehicles that can shoot. tix says you have to be a londoner to use them. i was wondering if limans could as well'

Todd says, 'don't think they had planes in Liman years'

Oww says, 'never realised vehicles could shoot before'

Kaige says, 'if you can use tech guns, you can use tech vehicles with guns'

Oww says, 'ahh'

Oww says, 'im gonna have to find some now then..'

Kaige smiles at Oww.

Oww giggles.

More on Spell Word Spirit Reqs

Brass1Guest says, 'spirit for words, which words effected, and increase or decrease?'

Brass1Guest says, 'pref actual numbers'

Brass1Guest ducks to the ground.

Kaige wishes Brass1Guest good luck!

Kaige says, 'words that didn't have spirit reqs before and they increase with spell circle level'

Kaige says, 'but Todd asked earlier if he'd be ok with 43 spirit and I said he shouldn't have any problems.'

Brass1Guest says, 'what about 2cs?'

Brass1Guest says, 'they still need same spi for all words?'

Kaige says to Brass1Guest, 'more than 1c less than 3c'

Kaige says, 'for the ones that had it added anyway'

Kaige says, 'I don't think the existing ones were changed.'

Brass1Guest nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'sandra would know for sure tho'

Brass1Guest waves happily.

Shooting Changed Recently?

Oww says, 'ohh yeah somone was saying that shooting has been tweaked with recently - is that true'

Oww stretches, you hear several loud snaps - maybe a massage would help?

Kaige says to Oww, 'the only thing I know that's changed with shoot recently is the auto-rush thing that's going in tomorrow'

Oww says, 'how's it changing?'

Oww nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'it's no longer 100% that you will rush. It'll be based off a couple stats for a base success chance with the iron will skills giving a bonus some times'

Oww nods solemnly.

Allskills & Unlearnable Skills?

Oww says, 'ohh. i have chant learned. and it shows courage in allskills, but the helpsays i cant learn it if i have chant. is that a known issue'

Kaige says, 'yes -- we dont have a code mechanism in place for certain skills to block or be required by others yet'

Oww nods solemnly.

Oww says, 'ok that was confusing me'

Kaige says, 'the mob that you're trying to learn it from will be the final authority on learning it too'

LadyAce says, 'but the mobs should explain the problem a bit to you'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'if you think about what they say, it should make sense. They don't come out and say it all ooc, but if you consider the situation it should make sense'

Kaige says, 'and if you don't think they explain it well enough, drop us a bug/idea report so we can clarify it some'

Oww says, 'ok'

Kaige says, 'but that is something we want to do.. have allskills be more accurate in that respect, but it's not something we have started yet.'

Spell Word Spirit Reqs Again

Voska says, 'what is up with spirit changes for words?'

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce says, 'you just missed it :)'

Voska says, 'i figured that'

Kaige says, 'some people thought it was rather unbalanced that they could make decent 3c fighter-mages with 1 spirit'

LadyAce says, 'not that high, between 1st and 3rd circ level, just affects those that didn't have any req at all'

LadyAce says, 'trying to give a general rundown -- specific question in mind?'

Voska says, 'but they require other stats too though, like con and perc'

Kaige says, 'they require the same things they used to, I think, just the spirit was also added.'

Kaige says, 'or at least that should be a safe assumption to make'

Kaige says, 'if the others are lower, lucky you!'

Voska says, 'added to lower ones? or changed the higher ones too?'

LadyAce says, 'people were using the no spirit ones and dropping spirit to nothing, which wasn't what we wanted -- we wanted people to have to give up some of those fight stats to have words'

Kaige says, 'the non-spirit stat requirements I wanna say stay the same'

Voska says, 'just added to 1c?'

LadyAce says, 'just those that didn't have spr reqs'

Kaige says, 'all words that didn't have a spir req, now do.. how much is based on what circle they fall in.'

Voska says, 'ok... so didn't change min on the 3c?'

LadyAce says, 'no, the level is between the spr you need for 1st circ and the spr you need for 3rd circ'

LadyAce says to Voska, 'that cover it?'

Voska says to LadyAce, 'i think so'

LadyAce smiles at Voska.

Forcing Chars into Classes?

Sarevok says, 'Characters here have become a lot less versatile than they used to be'

Voska nods his agreement with Sarevok.

Sarevok says, 'How come all these new reqs are coming out to force people to be a certain "class" now?'

Voska says, 'when this is a "classless" mud'

Sarevok says, 'I always thought Legend was a classless mud...but with the new reqs for every little thing, it's becoming a class mud.'

Kaige says, 'only if you want to be the absolute BEST in that class... that's always how it was intended... Jack of all trades or able to master a couple, but not Master of ALL...'

Kaige says, 'the idea of making trade offs between what you want to master has always been somethign we've been working for.'

Sarevok says, 'There is no such thing as a jack of all trades anymore, really.'

Sarevok says, 'Or thats how I see it, at least'

LadyAce says, 'really it gives you more options, specialist or generalist'

Kaige says to Sarevok, 'played a liman lately?'

Sarevok says, 'Yeah, I have a liman'

Voska shudders.

Sarevok says, 'thats the ONLY char that has a variety of stuff'

LadyAce says, 'generalist can't be as good as the specialist in the same category, but that makes sense'

Sarevok says, 'Agrabah characters have to be just a mage and nothing else'

Sarevok says, 'A specialist would have all the spellwords, a generalist would have some spellwords'

Kaige says, 'well, that's why we have a stack of skills on our todo list that we want to work on but don't have the time/man power to do so'

Sarevok says, 'So this new spirit requirement basically forces you to be a specialist'

Sarevok shrugs helplessly.

Sarevok nods his agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'they can be a mage and something else, but they can't be both the bestest mage and the bestest something else so easily'

Ruby says, 'need more manpower?'

Sarevok says, 'I'm a mage, I don't even call myself a hitter anymore'

Kaige says, 'sept 1st is the next app deadline'

LadyAce says, 'the spr req is not so high to require that people specialize in maging stuff'

Ruby says to Kaige, 'oh i was just gonna offer to work on steal thats all :P'

Voska chuckles politely at Ruby's feeble witticism.

Sarevok says, 'I used to hit semi-decent with Barkskin, given I still didn't have the hitroll to make it entirely effective'

Fighters Getting All the Changes?

Sarevok says, 'I've noticed a lot of new fighter stuff'

Sarevok says, 'New skills, new automatics'

Sarevok says, 'The only thing I've seen for other classes is gimps'

Voska says, 'implement phase person and resurrect for mages'

Voska ducks to the ground.

Myrthorn rests.

Sarevok says, 'Gimp to wimpy, gimp to barkskin, gimp to operate costs, gimp to surgeon requirements, gimp to druids with a spirit penalty'

Sarevok says, 'gimp to creates with timers'

Sarevok says, 'When do anyone but fighters get something good?'

Sarevok grins evilly.

Oww says, 'timer? even on dopps?'

LadyAce says, 'new stuff for fighters makes them more of an option. But if mages could have all the same beef ups that fighters are getting, it wouldn't help fighters be worth making'

Sarevok says, 'Timer is on greaters'

Kaige says to Oww, 'on greater summons'

Oww says, 'ahh'

Sarevok nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sarevok says, 'I'm not saying we should get the new fighter skills'

Sarevok says, 'I'm asking why fighters get a TONNE of new stuff, and veryone else gets gimped'

LadyAce says, 'mages have been the only truly powerful and diverse profession for so long...they're not that bad off.'

LadyAce says, 'they hadn't gotten anything new in years and years.'

Myrthorn flexes his muscles, lifting a roll of bandages like a barbell.

Kaige says, 'was their turn.'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'mages have gotten new stuff more often than fighters, for sure'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sarevok says, 'We get a new spell here and there'

Sarevok says, 'But I've used the same spells for years'

Sarevok says, 'I use about 10 on a regular basis'

Sarevok says, 'prep spells, charmie spells'

Kaige says, 'there is a mage perc coming that Sandra mentioned last week.. the mana conservation skill'

Sarevok says, 'and immolate/firestorm/watery death'

Oww says, 'that happens in all magy type games'

LadyAce says, 'check help updates to see the stuff that's changed for mages...if you take a longer view, it makes sense'

Kaige says, 'where you'll get a break on mana costs on casts when it kicks in'

Oww says, 'onbe spell syndrome that is'

LadyAce says, '10 spells is better than "kill, fightskill, wait" :P'

Sarevok says, 'Heh'

Sarevok says, 'I wouldn't "kill fight wait" if I had wimpy :p'

Sarevok says, 'I'd warcry/flee!'

LadyAce chuckles politely.

Voska grins evilly at Sarevok.. wonder what he's thinking...

Myrthorn chuckles politely.

Engraving Runes & Attributes on Items?

Oww says, 'i had one thought. i notice u can have a message engraved on an item. what about runes of + att engraved on items for a rent cost'

LadyAce says, 'it's something we'd like to do eventually'

Oww says, 'i think it could work well'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Sarevok says, 'I like that idea'

Oww says, 'one system i remeber allowed you to build sentences for an increased benefit'

Myrthorn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Oww says, 'i think it was the update for diablo 2 of all things'

LadyAce says, 'it'd take some serious changes elsewhere, is part of it'

Myrthorn scibbles some runes on the back of Oww's head, when he isn't looking

Sarevok grins evilly at Myrthorn.. wonder what he's thinking...

Oww says, 'i also believe only certain items with free slots would allow u to do it'

LadyAce says, 'right now the bestest items are on mobs, and the skills need to both have something special to them and be worth having, and yet not totally mess up life for everyone'

Oww nods solemnly.

Oww says, 'im done now'

LadyAce says, 'so it'd take some rethinking and effort. but it's an idea that floats around now and again, in the 'would be good to do in the future' sphere'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

LadyAce smiles at Oww.

Myrthorn nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Barkskin Changes?

Sarevok says, 'Barkskin!'

Oww throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Sarevok says, 'Why was it not weakened, instead of just being made caster only?'

Sarevok says, 'I can see 0 use for the skill now.'

Kaige says, 'because it was already as weak as that particular code could be made.'

Kaige notes that off, +1 and +2 doesn't leave much room when you're already at +1 to make it much weaker and still have the affect.

Sarevok says, 'It did allow for a bigger damage spectrum, but, the only time it was really super effective was big runs'

Kaige says, 'no. it wasn't.'

Sarevok says, 'I heard it was +33% damage'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Sarevok says, 'It couldn't be made +10% or something?'

LadyAce says, 'well, if you're going to fight someone with a certain attack, you could use it then...that's not 0 use...'

Kaige says, 'not without changing the way every other one of those types of flags works in the game too'

Sarevok says, 'It's suscept chop resist blast, the only blast weapon is fork-tongued, it's blast does 2-3HP'

Sarevok nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sarevok says, 'I dunno a thing about code'

LadyAce says, 'there are mobs that do blast tho, it's not just a matter of pk'

Sarevok nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sarevok says, 'but I have never fought a blasting mob'

LadyAce says, 'and hey, maybe we should make more blasting mobs :) poke us to do it.'

Myrthorn throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Voska pokes LadyAce in the ribs.

Myrthorn attempts to prod LadyAce but LadyAce isn't about to go anywhere.

Kaige says, 'more inkeepers like Aengus'

Kaige nods to herself.

Sarevok says, 'So yeah, thats my barkskin rant'

LadyAce says, 'elevating barkskin to some kinda amazing powerful thing wasn't the idea to start with...we want options not guaranteed smooshings'

Sarevok says, 'I used barkskin'

Sarevok says, 'I damcapped'

Sarevok says, 'I also chopped hard'

Sarevok says, 'thats not smooshing :p'

Kaige says, 'there are some changes that we're considering making to it still. which would make it better than just caster only, but we haven't finished discussing those yet.'

Sarevok says, 'I'm not much of a pkiller'

Sarevok says, 'I'm a mobkiller'

Kaige says, 'this wouldn't be a pk improving change'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Charmies Can't Be Ordered Through?

Myrthorn says, 'uhm ... well, feel sorta out of place, since I've been away for the past couple of months, moving'

Myrthorn says, 'but ...'

Myrthorn says, 'I noticed, when the mage changes went in a couple months back ...'

Sarevok says, 'Sorry to interrupt, but which changes?'

Sarevok giggles.

Sarevok says, 'have been a lot'

Myrthorn says, 'that I can no longer make charmed mobs go thru areas which allow for only one person to go through at a time'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'didn't know you could'

Alashar says, 'unless it was with bows...'

Myrthorn says, 'used to say ... order homunculus east ... and it would go east'

Alashar says, 'ahhh'

Alashar says, 'I haven't seen that work in years'

Alashar says, 'it did?'

Myrthorn says, 'now, the game forces me go east'

Kaige says, 'they've never really liked walking away from their masters.'

LadyAce doesn't remember that ever working, yea :/

Alashar says, 'yea...'

Myrthorn says, 'they always used to ... in the fort in alaska'

Alashar says, 'thats not a tunnel room'

Myrthorn says, 'the gate is'

Alashar says, 'kill the guards'

Alashar winks suggestively at Myrthorn.

Sarevok nods his agreement with Alashar.

Myrthorn rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Alashar says, 'its all just acts'

Kaige says, 'unless you're in a place where typing "EAST" is handled by acts in the room or the mob to determine if you should be allowed to go that way.'

Alashar says, 'yea'

Alashar says, 'east would have been handled by acts there'

Alashar cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

LadyAce says, 'yea, sounds area specific'

Alashar says, 'if you kill the guards, charmies follow you'

Kaige says, 'we do have an issue where the mobs aren't as smart about dealing with multiple characters with the same keyword as they should be'

Myrthorn looks up into the sky and ponders.

Myrthorn nods solemnly.

Myrthorn says, 'ok, thx'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Myrthorn smiles happily.

Details on Mana Conservation?

Alashar says, 'just curious if any other details got ironed out about the high spirit, lower casting cost idea sandra mentioned a few weeks ago'

Oww laughs.

Kaige says, 'not yet'

Kaige says, 'that's the mana conservation thing I mentioned a bit ago'

Charmy Problem on PK Port?

Alashar says, 'and also, on the pk port the other night, my create mage would make charmies, and interesting things would happen'

Alashar says, 'they would attack each other, me, and mobs and people in the room randomly, always leaving my group before so'

Alashar says, 'I don't know if it was port specific'

Alashar says, 'but it really pissed me off :P'

Alashar says, 'actually, it did that with all 3 of my create mages'

Kaige says, 'hmm... where were you playing? any specific area?'

Alashar says, 'I couldn't figure it out, because other people had charmies fine'

Alashar says, 'on the pk port'

Alashar says, 'tara?'

LadyAce says, 'I might not have loaded up all the areas I needed to to make them behave'

Alashar says, 'so why would mine be broke, but not others?'

Alashar says, 'that was the weird thing'

LadyAce says, 'not sure, I saw that last time but forgot til you just mentioned it just now'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'I tried 3 different mages, thinkging maybe I had a bad file move or something'

Alashar shrugs helplessly.

Alashar says, 'oh well, some fluke I guess'

Kaige says, 'I have an idea where to look, but shouldn't have affected you unless you were where you shouldn't be yet.'

Kaige grins evilly.

Alashar says, 'hehe'

Alashar says, 'sl'

Alashar says, 'expansion!'

Alashar wins.

Alashar says, 'or hell!'

Alashar says, 'either way, i was in tara'

Kaige nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'like one north of tika'

Kaige says, 'ok. that's weird.'

LadyAce says, 'well, it's happened in both an anc only and med only testmud'

Alashar says, 'hm'

Alashar says, 'they are completely random acts'

LadyAce says, 'well, not even all of anc, just ireland, and not all of med, just continental europe'

Alashar says, 'which was even stranger'

Alashar says, 'they'd attack hounds immediately after following themselves'

Alashar says, 'or me'

Alashar says, 'or other charmies'

Alashar says, 'or other people :P'

Sarevok giggles.

LadyAce says, 'but I could've missed an important area in my area.lst'

Alashar says, 'okay'

Alashar says, 'I got smoked by some dude and his charmies, so I figured it was a specific thing, but too late to figure it out anyway'

Alashar says, 'was just curious if it was known or not'

LadyAce says, 'dunno which one it'd be, but :)'

Alashar says, 'I don't think it happens here'

Alashar says, 'and thats whats important :)'

LadyAce says, 'there are some animals trying to call procs 11200 in the bugfile'

Alashar says, 'hehe, k'

LadyAce says, 'dog 31810 and cat 31809'

Kaige says, 'doh.'

Alashar says, 'slay the dog, eat the cat'

Kaige says, 'stupid kaige copy-paste errors'

Alashar says, 'oh?'

Kaige says, 'for the dog and cat she mentioned'

LadyAce says, 'I have casablan.are loaded to try to help with broken guns'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'didn't work'

Alashar says, 'guns shot, but couldn't reload'

Alashar says, 'bows worked fine'

LadyAce says, 'well, I fixed the guns people gave me -- a few should've worked but yea, not all'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'maybe you needed london as its the hometown'

Alashar says, 'and lima'

Alashar says, 'who knwos :P'

Alashar says, 'or the area the ammo is in'

Kaige says, 'ok those are fixed.'

Alashar says, 'dog and cat? :P'

Kaige nods her agreement with Alashar.

Alashar says, 'are they like super wizinvis mobs'

Alashar says, 'that help our charmies? :P'

Kaige says, 'no but it was fast and easy...'

Kaige giggles.

Alashar says, 'hehe'

LadyAce giggles.

Kaige says, 'looking at the charmy code I suspect now.'

Alashar nods solemnly.

Alashar says, 'well, i should go home anyway. Thanks for the answers. Sorry I didn't cause more havok this week :)'

Alashar waves happily.

Alashar winks suggestively at Varnel.

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'only angels, demons and titans, right?'

LadyAce isn't sure.

LadyAce says, 'I didn't see it this time, last time was a month ago and I figured it was something I screwed up :/ Darn Alashar left, too'

Kaige says, 'It didn't sound like the turn on your master if they changed align thing...'

Kaige says, 'but I'm not seeing the thing I was thinking of either'

Kaige says, 'no.. I think I know what it was'

Kaige says, 'it could be a missing pcflag, but I'd think that'd make _get_vict PCFLAG NAME return NULL if it didn't exist'

Kaige says, 'bizarre if it didn't work that way tho'

Kaige is completely boggled.

And Spirit Reqs Again

Kurgan says, 'What are these spirit changes to spellwords? :)'

LadyAce giggles.

Sandra says, 'those that didn't have one now do'

Voska ducks to the ground.

LadyAce says, 'we've answered that about 3x tonight :)'

Kaige says, 'yay! sandra's turn to spin the record'

Kurgan says, 'sorry...I came late :)'

Kaige smiles at Kurgan.

Sandra giggles.

Kurgan nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'it's a lowish req, designed to make spr levels not 0 if you're a mage'

Changes to Autorush?

Kurgan says, 'and the config autorush?'

Kurgan says, '% thingy?'

Kurgan nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sarevok says, 'You can't have 0 spirit anymore anyway'

Kurgan nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'not guaranteed, get a better chance with some stats and ironwill helps too'

Kurgan says, 'better chance to autorush?'

Sarevok says, 'How can you fail rushing someone?'

Sarevok says, 'WIll you trip?'

Kurgan says, 'oh its not automatic anymore?'

LadyAce says, 'can't tell where the bullet came from'

Varnel bounces onto Sandra's lap.

Sarevok says, 'if I'm standing here and a bullet hits me in the right arm'

Sarevok says, 'I'm pretty sure it came from the right :p'

Varnel says, 'if i'm standing here and someone shoots me in a vital organ'

Varnel says, 'i'm pretty sure i'm going to be dead'

LadyAce says, 'that's tremendous presence of mind, when you're in serious pain :P'

Myrthorn throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Voska says, 'this mean mobs will fail it too then?'

Varnel says, 'so i think shots should just kill you 90% of the time when they hit vital organs'

Sarevok says, 'well I'm sure I can tell left from right when I'm in pain'

Kurgan says to Varnel, 'that was a long nap'

LadyAce says, 'but it's not like you're always in a room with 4 doors at compass points'

Varnel says to Kurgan, 'yea man sorry bout that'

Kurgan snickers softly.

Kurgan says, 'itso k'

Varnel says to Kurgan, 'i set my alarm but apparently i turned it off in my sleep :p'

Kurgan nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'they might be exits right by each other, but the convention is to say n s e w :P'

Varnel says, 'are you talking about autorush?'

Sarevok nods his agreement with Varnel.

Varnel says, 'i think you should definately be able to autorush'

Sarevok says, 'if we fail rushes'

Sarevok says, 'So should mobs'

Varnel says, 'but i dont think shots should make your opponent stand up and rush'

Varnel says, 'maybe just stand up'

Myrthorn is completely boggled.

Doppels & Master's Skills?

Sarevok says, 'Doppelgangers!'

Sarevok says, 'They are mirrir images of their creater, right?'

Sarevok says, 'They have same hp/mana/moves'

Sarevok says, 'Do they also have the same stats?'

LadyAce says, 'not mirror images, they have no brain of their own'

Sarevok says, 'like str/con/etc?'

Sandra says, 'same base stats'

Kaige says, 'they're also made of light and magic'

Varnel says, 'they are illusions'

Varnel says, 'hehe'

Kaige nods her agreement with Varnel.

Sarevok says, 'SO, if a mage has bowman or archer'

Sarevok says, 'Why can't a doppel use a bow?'

Sandra says, 'BASE stats ;)'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Sarevok says, 'mage has 40 base perc, mage has bowman'

Varnel says, 'well if a mage has kick and bash and warcry and all these diff spells'

LadyAce says, 'cuz they're not copies of your life experience, they're little echoes of you, shadows of your existence'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sarevok says, 'I see'

Varnel says, 'why can't doppels cast them? :p'

Kurgan says, 'yeah, super doppels!!!'

Kurgan bounces around.

Varnel grins evilly at Kurgan.. wonder what he's thinking...

LadyAce says, 'not magical twin body double clones :P'

Kurgan says, 'imp imp!'

Kaige says, 'I don't believe they get a copy of all your skills period. just the ones mobs naturally get'

Kaige says, 'hehe. and eloquence for some bizarre reason!'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'maybe so they could all do moods, back when that was needed?'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'prolly'

Problem with Charmy Limits?

Sarevok says, 'Another question on the subject of charmies'

Sarevok says, 'I have 8 charmies in my group'

Sarevok says, 'I ditch one, try to animate another'

Sarevok says, 'But it wont let me'

Sarevok says, 'why?'

Sandra says, 'did that one poof?'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Sarevok says, 'when you ditch a skeleton'

Sarevok says, 'it crumbles'

Sandra says, 'hm, i dunno'

Sandra says, 'feature! ;)'

LadyAce says, 'can you never make another? or just not right away?'

Sarevok says, 'never'

Sandra says, 'oh that reminds me, oh cause mages that hoard skeletons'

Sarevok says, 'I waited a lot of ticks'

Sarevok says, 'hoard? I can hardly hoard anymore :p'

LadyAce says to Sarevok, 'weird. report on bug.'

Sarevok says, 'When there was no charmie limit I hoarded'

Sarevok says to LadyAce, 'I did report it, lots of times :p'

Kurgan says, 'hoarding was like 30 skeletons :)'

Sarevok nods his agreement with Kurgan.

Varnel says, 'no charmie limit was rediculous'

Kaige says, 'yeah. I saw those go by'

Kurgan chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'I think if someone has too many skeletons, the skellys should have themselves an uprising'

Kurgan chortles with amusement.

Varnel grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'turn against the evil force that keeps them from their eternal rest, and stuff'

Varnel says, 'i think skeletons should turn on their masters randomly'

Sarevok says, 'I think mages are getting worse enough off as it is, leave us alone :P'

Rusalka chuckles politely.

Myrthorn throws his head back and howls with amusement

Sandra says, 'well, I wanna make them poof over time'

Voska says, 'but everyone likes evil'

Sandra says, 'poof!'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Voska's head.

LadyAce says, 'ooh, and animated weapons in hordes should get it in their minds to chase you and attack'

LadyAce winks suggestively at Sarevok.

Sarevok says, 'perhaps though'

Sarevok says, 'The skeletons want to be alive'

Sarevok says, 'to seek redemption'

Kaige says, 'maybe as their move hits certain points, they start breaking up... until poof!'

LadyAce says, 'rattle, rattle, how can they get redemption if they're following around some smelly adventurer?'

Sarevok says, 'I think if you do that make them cost less mana to make'

Sarevok snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'speaking of bones, I read "The Lovely Bones" the other night -- great book!'

Sarevok says, 'Maybe my evil skeletons are drawn to my immense evil powers and worship my existence?:P'

Varnel says, 'i think skeletones should cost 200 mana to make'

Sarevok says, 'I don't'

Varnel says, '200 mana for 500 - 600 hp'

Sarevok says, 'They do no specials like create charmies, and they hit weaker than create charmies'

Varnel says, 'fair trade!'

Kaige says, 'then the good ones would rebel?'

Kaige ducks to the ground.

What's Mana Conservation?

Sandra says, 'well, the mana cost probably won't change, but we do have an idea for a new skill for mages that I talked about last week'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Sarevok says, 'Weheard that'

Sarevok says, 'mana preservation or something like that'

Kurgan says, 'what skill is that?'

Kurgan raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Sandra says, 'mana conservation'

Varnel says, 'what is it?'

Sandra says, 'it'll sometimes give you a small mana refund on spells cast'

Varnel grumbles.

Varnel says, 'i have a hard enough time fighting mages as is :P'

Sarevok laughs.

Varnel says, 'oh oh'

Sarevok says, 'I have a hard enough time fighting fighters'

Sarevok shrugs helplessly.

Sandra says, 'the details are still being worked out on it, so don't expect it right away'

Why no HP Chalices?

Varnel says, 'you should implement like, higbalds chalice'

Varnel says, 'that heals like 30 hp every sip'

Sarevok nods his agreement with Varnel.

Sarevok says, 'theres the cup but it's not guarunteed to heal and it's not portable'

Sandra says, 'there's alot of in game healing already that a cup isn't necessary'

Varnel says, 'and it heals like 5 hp'

Varnel says, 'ther'es some in-game mana too'

Sarevok says, 'theres 1 in game mana healer, and lots of in game HP healing'

Varnel says, 'cured fish'

Varnel says, 'totem'

Kurgan says, 'more man then that.'

LadyAce says, 'we don't wanna make healers useless :P'

Voska says to Sarevok, '2'

Varnel says, 'flowers from curio'

Kurgan says, 'mana'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Sarevok says, 'cursed fish isn't just mana tho'

Sarevok says, 'Healers are already useless'

Varnel says, 'heh'

LadyAce says, 'mana healing stuff is not the same as hp. Everyone needs hp for mobkill, lots of people don't need mana.'

Kurgan raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Sarevok says, 'It's rare to find a surgeon on nowadays'

Sarevok says, 'with all these new reqs'

Sandra says, 'there's alot out there'

LadyAce says, 'then you should offer them more incentives'

Kurgan hugs a shiny scalpel.

Rusalka stretches, you hear several loud snaps - maybe a massage would help?

Varnel says, 'surgeons dont need hp'

Varnel says, 'druids dont need hp'

Sandra says, 'they're just becoming self sufficient ;)'

Varnel says, 'create mages dont need hp'

Kurgan says, 'The change does suck!'

Varnel says, 'some cause mages dont need hp :P'

Kurgan says, 'But surgeons still exist.'

Rusalka wonders if anybody needs hit points.

Sarevok says, 'I have 2 surgeons I don't play'

Sandra says, 'I pkill with mine!'

Sandra throws her head back and cackles gleefully!

Varnel laughs at Sandra.

Sarevok says, 'creates balm, surgeons aid, druids augment, causes cure light/crit'

Voska nods his agreement with Kurgan.

Sarevok says, 'fighters sleep for 8 hours'

Varnel says, 'causes get empathy too :P'

Varnel says, 'which is bad ass'

Sarevok says, 'I never used it'

LadyAce says, 'they need hp if they're going to do any fighting themselves. Mana is used for a bonus to the fighting more than anything, and doesn't have a whole set of professions for healing it'

Varnel says, 'i've seen ppl heal 500 hp instantly with it'

LadyAce says, 'mana healing and hp healing just aren't the same'

Myrthorn shakes his head in agreement, for his brother, Tweedle

Myrthorn snickers softly.

How about Asst GMs?

Sarevok says, 'What about an assistant GM feature for clans?'

Varnel grins evilly at Voska.. wonder what he's thinking...

Varnel says, 'yes good idea'

Sarevok says, 'A GM can appoint an assistant GM with some of the lesser commands'

Sarevok says, 'Or, 2nd most pledges gets assistant Gm'

Sarevok says, 'or something'

Varnel says, 'i think ability to add rooms to the hall etc'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'what sorts of commands would you give them, just the building?'

Sarevok says, 'clanbuild commands, claninfo/purpose, tithe'

Sarevok says, 'Leave pure GMs the outcast/induct'

Varnel says, 'or maybe induct'

Varnel says, 'and thats it'

Varnel says, 'and leave the GM with the rest of the commands'

Sarevok says, 'I could see a asst gm going around inducting people for fun or something'

Varnel says, 'well'

Varnel says, 'thats why you appoint someone assistant gm you trust'

LadyAce says, 'It's been suggested before, but we had a couple big discussions and I think it turned out GMs weren't at all in agreement about what the AGM would do'

Sarevok says, 'So make it GM controlable if they want an AGM or not'

Sarevok says, 'If they don't like what an AGM can do, then they don't have one'

Varnel nods solemnly.

Varnel says, 'and give the GM ability to give assistant gm status and take it away'

LadyAce says, 'put it up on discussion, see what people say'

Sarevok says, 'Could add a lot of sub-features to clans'

Sarevok says, 'Recruiting Officer - Iinduction command'

Sarevok says, 'Financial Adviser - Tithe command'

Varnel nods solemnly.

Varnel says, 'damn'

Sarevok says, 'Architecht - Clanbuild command'

Autorush & Mobs?

Sarevok says, 'I had said earlier about autorush'

Sarevok says, 'If we have a chance of failing, mobs should too'

Sarevok says, 'but noone commented on that'

LadyAce doesn't know the answer.

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'lemme look it up'

Varnel says, 'would screw with runs'

Sarevok says, 'Dont let Sandra answer'

Sarevok says, 'She makes nothing but cheater mobs'

Sarevok ducks to the ground.

Myrthorn giggles.

Sandra says, 'I don't know the answer ;)'

LadyAce says, 'it seems like it should affect mobs for sure, if it doesn't'

Varnel says, 'yea sandra mobs are evil :P'

Sarevok says, 'I wanna augment during combat!'

Kaige says, 'npcs are handled the same way as pcs with AUTORUSH turned on'

Sarevok smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'I made Harriet just for Craven'

Sarevok says, 'Sweet action'

Kaige says, 'always has been that way'

LadyAce says, 'the whole stand outside the room and shoot a mob in thing is so dull! time for more excitement in life'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Varnel says, 'great'

Varnel says, 'PD will be impossible'

Varnel grumbles.

LadyAce points at Sarevok.

Level 50 Mobs: Stats & Tactics?

Sarevok says, 'Levle 50 mobs'

Sarevok says, 'Are they ALL 100 in all stats?'

Sandra shakes her head.

Farhai bows deeply.

Varnel says to Sarevok, 'your a curious little bugger aren't ya :P'

Sarevok says, 'Like a player can have 100 in 3 at the most'

Sarevok says, 'and thats if they sacrifice all their spirit'

Sarevok says, 'and fight skills'

Sarevok says, 'Mobs should be more specialist too'

Kaige says, 'not all mobs are human'

Sarevok says, 'Like, there should be mobs that kick your ass like a fighter'

Sarevok says, 'And mobs that hit like schoolgirls, but beat you down with firestorm or watery death'

LadyAce says, 'a lot of mobs would just keel over and die if we made them have the same stats as players, they'd have no xp value :P'

Sarevok nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'and wow... what a good opportunity you have coming up with the summer odyssey to give us lots of ideas how to makes specific mobs more special!'

Voska grins evilly at Kaige.. wonder what he's thinking...

Varnel laughs.

Sarevok says, 'Oh?'

Varnel says, 'you mean to make mobs more impossible'

LadyAce says, 'we could spend 10 years on each mob and make them fight as well as a 10 year old child, but do you want to wait that long? :)'

Kaige notes you can do that ANY day.. but...

Kurgan says, 'i'd just say make another area like klein'

Varnel says, 'and less worth the xp they give'

Sarevok nods his agreement with Varnel.

LadyAce smiles at Kaige.

Varnel says, 'mobs keep getting harder and harder'

Sarevok sighs loudly.

Varnel says, 'and staying the same xp'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'I think some are at that point now.. at least having been tweaked almost 10 years'

Sarevok says, 'I remember the 100K dun mob days'

Kaige giggles.

LadyAce says, 'players keep getting smarter and smarter :)'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Varnel says, 'no they dont'

Varnel laughs.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'but not solidly 10 years, that's what I was thinkin'

Sarevok says, 'their chars keep gettin suckier and suckier too'

Kaige says, 'and getting new skills and stuff to use in specific ways'

Varnel says, 'bah! :P'

Kurgan says, 'I love topple'

Varnel says, 'all the new skills suck especially topple :P'

LadyAce says, 'how come they keep gettin 100 mil over and over if their life is so rought?'

Kurgan smiles happily.

Varnel says, 'cuz they go on a billion group runs'

Kurgan peers at Varnel, looking him up and down.

Sarevok says, 'PD and SL'

Kurgan says, 'Topple is awesome'

LadyAce says, 'then life must not be that horrible to them :P'

Sandra says, 'Israfel hit 1225mil today'

Sandra giggles.

Varnel rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Kurgan chuckles politely.

Sarevok says, 'Israfel is an isolated case'

Varnel says, 'what a loser :P'

Farhai says, 'topple has one very good feature - it's not tumbleable'

Kaige says, 'israfel is JUST not natural'

Kaige giggles.

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kurgan nods his agreement with Kaige.

Varnel says, 'ok enough bitching and moaning'

Sandra says, 'topple will have a critical failure chance added to it soon'

Varnel gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kurgan says to Sandra, 'critical failure!??!'

Kurgan peers at Sandra, looking her up and down.

Sandra nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'it currently doesn't have one'

Kurgan says to Sandra, 'like what?'

Myrthorn struts proudly.

LadyAce says to Kurgan, 'crit failure is like, the worst outcome. in headbut, it's dazed.'

Kurgan says, 'set to sitting?'

Kaige says to Kurgan, 'you know how like bash can make you fall on your face? that's a critical failure'

Kurgan says, 'that would suck :)'

Farhai says, 'not a real restring - a mundane restring.. which the little ones can't do'

Kurgan says, 'topple fails..'

Sandra says, 'probably something like that'

Farhai says, 'that's not too bad'

Kurgan says, 'aww man topple wont be thes ame with a set to sitting failure'

Kurgan glares at nothing in particular.

Kurgan grumbles.

Sandra says, 'why? One can tumble from sitting ;)'

Farhai says, 'so we just make sure we don't bash when the enemy is already sitting?'

Voska grins evilly.

LadyAce says, 'okie, looks like the inquiring minds are closed for the night :) let's call this good.'

Voska waves happily.

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Farhai nods solemnly.

Sandra waves happily.

LadyAce says, 'thanks for coming, this was a good session'

Farhai waves happily.

Kaige waves happily.

Kaige pats a giant gnome lawn ornament affectionately.

LadyAce smiles happily.

LadyAce waves happily.

Kaige should string a mob to that and leave it in the picture booth.

Kaige throws her head back and cackles gleefully!

Kaige waves to Kurgan.

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Can we please get a PK channel so all this self praise is not spamming chat?

We've always been opposed to further dividing the community more than it already is along the PK/RP lines.

o Can we have imm sponsered runs for the fun of it no xp just showing off the area.

April Fool's Day and any areas that are used in PK tourneys/practices are the only times that areas will be open to players without risk.

o The kneel social is not on the socials list.

It's not a social any more. It was changed a while back to be a command that changes your position like sit, stand, sleep, etc.

o I used "break door west" and it broke the southern door in the druid compound tree while trying to reach diancecht's lab

As per the helpfile, the syntax is BREAK <dir> so it used the keyword door to search for the first exit with that keyword and ignored the west.

o You should get hungry before thirsty, but dehydrated before starving, as RL one can survive only a few days without water, but several weeks without food.

Hunger and thirst in the game are simply two separate counters and the messages you get about your condition are merely graduated based on how low or high they are at the time.

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