February 6th, 2003

Builder Requests

LadyAce says, 'so tell me, who has a question? :)'

Blade says, 'I want to ask rufus a question.. he gonna be here'

LadyAce says, 'I don't often see him here, but you can always drop him a mudmail.'

LadyAce says, 'we might be able to answer it for you, if we've heard the answer before'

Blade says, 'meh last message I sent took a month for a response'

Blade says, 'prolly not has to do with rufus eq in his area'

Herbert blushes bright red.

Blade says, 'I want him to upgrade the quality of a weapon'

Blade says, 'he said he'd consider it.. but hasn't gotten back to me'

Firefly wonders if you tried ideaing it?

Blade says, 'yep'

LadyAce says, 'you can definitely use idea/bug or a mudmail -- he might've forgotten who he talked to about it'

Blade says, 'I am just trying to get sastram upped to q5'

Nelson says, 'it might also be like when a job interviewer says they will definately call you back'

LadyAce giggles at Nelson.

Blade chuckles politely at Nelson's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'sometimes it takes a while for an idea to percolate into somebody's brain, too.'

Blade says, 'q5 sastram would rock!! for pure fighters'

LadyAce says, 'reminding/re-asking can be a good strategy, as long as you're not buggy about it'

Chunk says, 'its good at q4..'

Sandra says, 'the sastram is fine ;)'

LadyAce says, 'it doesn't seem like he'd make it q5 just like it is.'

Blade says to Sandra, 'I disagree'

Firefly waves hello to the world!

LadyAce says, 'he'd have to downgrade other stuff to upgrade the q'

Blade nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Blade says, 'would be better'

Blade says, 'upgrade to q5 and remove c'

LadyAce says, 'maybe it's neat to have some weapons that are neat other than just q5s :)'

Firefly nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Blade throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Prizes for Mort-Run Games

Nelson says, 'are imms ever gonna supply prizes for player trivias again, or is that pretty much blown? I dont like giving away haunchs of mutton for prizes..'

Blade laughs at Nelson.

Chunk snickers softly.

LadyAce says, 'I don't imagine we'll start doing that again, no.'

LadyAce says, 'but if I were you, I'd solicit prize donations'

Herbert says, 'too open to exploitation or something wasnt it?'

Chunk says to Nelson, 'it is hard to even get donations.. but im trying :)'

Sandra says, 'it was exploited'

Firefly nods her agreement with Herbert.

Nelson says, 'I have a followup, who ruined it for us and what is their pkillers name?'

Blade says, 'give away baby sea turtles nelson maybe imms will feel sorry for them as we EAT them'

LadyAce says, 'I hear from tons and tons of people who want to be rid of house junk'

Chunk laughs at Nelson.

LadyAce says, 'so maybe you should post a message on boards or something, to ask for donations'

Kaige says to Herbert, 'I think the straw that broke the camel's back was trivias where the answers were mailed out to their friends ahead of time.'

Rush says, 'the baby sea turtle thing is sick'

Navajero shakes his head.

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Rush says, 'whichever immie thought that up needs therapy'

Kaige thanks Rush heartily.

Firefly nods her agreement with Kaige.

Rush ducks to the ground.

Herbert winces in sympathy with Kaige.

Blade chuckles politely at Rush's feeble witticism.

Firefly heard of that.

Kaige giggles.

Rush wrinkles her nose at Kaige.

Herbert says, 'jesus thats worse cheating than even i imagined..hahaha'

Rush says, 'groooooooss'

LadyAce says, 'the last person I talked to, who announced they were going to do a trivia .... he was suspicious, he didn't think people would cheat so badly'

Herbert says, 'i was thinkin they would use ICQ to give answers.. so at least some people would beat them'

Firefly always drops them baby turtles!

Herbert says, 'make it look real..'

Sandra says to Rush, 'personally, I prefer the dead squirrels ;)'

LadyAce says, 'within two days he had gotten multiple tells of people asking him for the answers'

Blade chuckles politely at Sandra's feeble witticism.

LadyAce says, 'so he believed me after that :)'

Rush says, 'eeker'

Chunk says, 'heh i cured that i just used trivial pursuit q's.. and plan on a tribond trivia next'

Blade says, 'Is it bad to ask the same question over and over every week.. I know sandman does it.. I was wondering if I could too'

Blade ducks to the ground.

Herbert throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

LadyAce says, 'How would it make you feel if that happened to you? :)'

Chunk grins evilly at Blade.. wonder what he's thinking...

Blade says, 'prolly get my but in gear'

Blade bounces onto Firefly's lap.

Firefly blinks at Blade.

Rush looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'who else has a question? :)'

Surgery Changes/Fly/Barkskin Changes

Rush says, 'i just wanna put my two cents in'

Rush says, 'surgie changes, seem jus fine'

Rush says, 'fly change sucks'

Rush bursts into tears.

Blade says, 'surgie changes ruin low levels'

Blade says, 'low level surgies suck now'

Rush says, 'low level surgery should suck'

Sandra says, 'Personally, I'd rather field surgery not obtainable until lvl 20, but that's just me ;)'

Herbert stifles a laugh as he regards the situation at hand.

Herbert says to Sandra, 'make it 15th like advanced weapons skills..'

Rush says, 'the fly thing makes me cry tho'

Blade says to Sandra, 'then give em like a bleed attack at least if they can't operate till level 20'

Sandra says, '20 like augment'

Herbert says to Sandra, 'then imp dress wound for 20th'

Rush says, 'too much ambiguity'

Firefly says, 'a level requirement wouldn't be bad'

Chunk says, 'the fly thing makes me laugh =p'

Herbert says, 'or dress wound at 15, surgery at 20'

LadyAce says, 'the fly thing is no different than all the other prep spell rules.'

LadyAce says, 'it just adds another spell to the list'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Firefly says to Chunk, 'the whining about the fly thing makes me laugh:)'

Herbert nods his agreement with Firefly.

Rush looks up into the sky and ponders.

Chunk says to Rush, 'before long everything will have a resist.. so im getting used to it'

Sandra says, 'the rule was always there. It's just a spell addition to the list'

Rush says, 'i've never heard of anyone getting into hot water for having preps and getting jumped'

Kaige says, 'then it's likely you still won't'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Chunk says, 'i have..'

Herbert says, 'is there a helpfile for spells that are considered interference anywhere?'

Sandra says, 'I've warned people for prepping pkillers before. Marauder was one'

Rush says, 'the boards sound like you could DEFINITELY be in hot water for having fly and getting jumped'

Firefly has too.

LadyAce says, 'has happened before'

Firefly says to Herbert, 'just think if it's ruin someone's opponents tactics, it's prolly a bad choice:)'

LadyAce says, 'it's no different than all the other prep stuff. If someone complains, could be a problems'

Chunk nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sandra says to Herbert, 'nah, it's the usual prep spells. Not hard to figure out: )'

Kaige says, 'yeah, but it's not common place every day occurrence like some chicken littles were making it out to be'

Herbert says to Firefly, 'yeah but i use mental spells!'

Firefly giggles.

LadyAce says, 'It's usually kinda obvious when it's a problem, too. People run to someone, get a whole stack of spells on them, then dash right into pk'

Rush says, 'maybe i just never got it before'

Rush says, 'if my friend, the pker, gets amilky or a blue violet from me while we are running and he gets jumped, i get into trouble ... i never knew that'

LadyAce says, 'if there's no reason for you to think you're going to be in pk, if you get jumped, if you're doing your thing....it's not like you're intending to use all those magey powers in pk.'

LadyAce says, 'it's a matter of whether you could reasonably anticipate being in a pk situation'

Sandra says, 'but if you're an active pkiller, and your enemy is online, it's probably smart to find another enabled or a mob to prep you ;)'

Firefly nods her agreement with Sandra.

Rush wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Rush says, 'i also miss maras flys'

Rush scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Bug with Turn Undead?

Herbert says, 'how come turn undead works on non-enabled peoples skeletons and zombies!'

Herbert says, 'and how come it sucks so bad...'

Herbert grins evilly.

Kaige says to Herbert, 'did you bug that?'

Herbert says, 'all it does is the normal flee percentage which on skeletons and zombies is low.. the turn undead spell shouldnt bother with a flee check and just do it'

Herbert says to Kaige, 'i think so a LONG time ago..'

Kaige thanks Herbert heartily.

Sandra thinks Marauder is a waste of space =P

Blade chuckles politely at Sandra's feeble witticism.

Kaige says to Sandra, 'definitely bandwidth'

Update on Post-Titles?

Herbert says, 'post titles! due dates.. progress... give me hope!'

Herbert says, 'and any news on an anti-assassin subquest!'

Blade nods his agreement with Herbert.

LadyAce says, 'we're actually having a big discussion about post titles and such on the godlist right now.'

LadyAce says, 'so we'll see where that goes'

Herbert says, 'oooooh'

Herbert says, 'sounds good..'

Sandra says, 'I'd like builders to use them more. I'm hoping they do'

Herbert nods his agreement with Sandra.

Rush giggles at Sandra.

Herbert says, 'id like to see more of em thats for sure'

Sandra says, 'I have an obvious one for salem waiting, but I want to make a removal quest for it first'

LadyAce says, 'I'm hoping my idea will help with that'

Herbert says, 'just need something that fits me or an option to kill mine'

Kaige says, 'one thing that will help, is if you see some place that's begging to have one added, or would be easy to add one in there.. idea it'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Herbert says, 'oh we can idea em! spiffy!'

Sandra says, 'sure =)'

Kaige says, 'like pd/tortuga is begging for "the pirate"'

Herbert says, 'i might do a run around spammin thing sometime then im in quest mode today anyway'

LadyAce says, 'If there's a more central way of turning them off and on, rather than each using a removal quest, I have a few good places for them in Klein and maybe Crusades'

Herbert says, 'the fop for high society would be nice'

Herbert says, 'or something like that..'

Rush says, 'i wanna healer one'

Rush giggles.

Gust of Wind Change?

Nelson says, 'since that thing with barkskin/fly happened can we get gust of wind to do more damage to flying people again? Make it a little harder choice for them to fly or not and stuff to dodge the barkskin thing'

Herbert gasps in astonishment.

Herbert says, 'good call!'

Nelson says, 'bonus!'

Rush says, 'owwie!'

Rush laughs.

LadyAce says, 'that's a good point to bring up!'

Sandra says, 'I think gust of wind does a pretty good bit already, doesn't it?'

Herbert says, 'should always be a penalty to being immune to things..'

Chunk says, 'make it tumbleable =p'

Chunk ducks to the ground.

Sandra says, 'riiiiiiiiiight'

Herbert says, 'like if yer flying a gust should damn near throw ya outta the room'

Sandra says, 'that'd be neat'

Rush says, 'oh'

Rush says, 'maybe give a chance to break the fly'

Firefly says, 'quick, grab hold of a tree:)'

Sandra giggles.

Chunk says to Sandra, 'you sounded like DR evil just now..'

Herbert says, 'be a nice way to break incites and stuff that..'

Sandra says, 'That's me'

Rush says, 'i mean if you got magical wings and theres a lot of wind coming that could ruin yer wings'

Nelson says, 'gust yourself out of the room if your incited?'

Nelson says, 'oh right, the other guy'

Sandra giggles.

Herbert says to Nelson, 'naw gust the flyer out of the room.. which would break it if yer incited on them at least'

LadyAce says, 'a free flee isn't necessarily something you'd want to give an opponent, though'

Chunk says, 'bah most mages have calm =p'

Firefly says to Herbert, 'but if you incited someone, would you want it broken?'

Herbert says, 'exactly LA.. upsides, downsides'

LadyAce says, 'maybe you want the wind to swirl around them :P'

Herbert says, 'you'd be gettin em out of the room, but that might not be cool, so use a different spell'

LadyAce says, 'it could respond to the number of exits in the room! :)'

Herbert says, 'tactics'

Firefly says, 'could make a whirlwind spell for that, maybe disorient'

Itto says, 'If you fly, should you drop your boat over water?'

Firefly notes it's past 2 am here, so if she spurts idiotics, forgive her:)

Nelson says, 'any kind of change along this line would be cool tho, so I can make an axe using cause mage and be like "go on choose boy! do you feel lucky punk?" and whatever'

Nelson begins to twitch nervously.

Herbert grins evilly at Nelson.. wonder what he's thinking...

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'put it in on idea, it's a great line of pondering'

Herbert says, 'implement encumbre! tooo!'

Sandra says, 'I doubt that we'll change gust to be anything like that ;) It does a good bit already. But we can look into ideas'

Herbert says, 'encumbre would be fuuuuuuuun'

Rush smiles at Nephiel.

Itto looks up into the sky and ponders.

Nephiel nods his agreement with Rush.

Firefly says, 'isn't weaken down that alley?'

Itto says, 'Would weaken accomplish the same thing?'

Herbert says, 'not against a str fighter its not'

Nephiel nods solemnly.

Nephiel says, 'and weaken also affects combat ability'

Herbert says, 'encumber is a spell designed to instantly encumber anyone, or so id imagine'

Herbert says, 'useful for fighting mobs too.. itd be handy as against skatha'

Herbert says, 'cast it on yer tank..'

Navajero grins evilly.

Itto says, 'So its a spell that more or less cements them in place.'

Nephiel nods solemnly.

Nephiel says, 'more or less like bind'

Herbert nods solemnly.

Firefly says, 'why not just encumber the tank?'

Blade says, 'make it a create spell'

Blade says, 'cause already has bind'

Herbert says, 'it is a create spell'

Herbert chuckles quietly to himself at something he found particularly humorous.

Maloth smiles at Blade.

Herbert says, 'i dont only defend my class at these shindigs'

Blade bounces onto Maloth's lap.

Kick/Flee Discussion

Blade says, 'My question is a follow up discussion of kick flee.. and things of that nature'

Rush raises her eyebrow at Blade.

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we've made any decisions in that area'

Blade says, 'discussion last week was that if you kick someone you can't flee automatically until'

Blade says, 'I am sure this was discussed'

Kaige says to Blade, 'any skill lag that you're affected by is up.'

Blade nods his agreement with Kaige.

Herbert says, 'back soon guys just gotta go become a goody good'

Firefly would like to see that change.

Rush grumbles.

Rush says, 'i swear'

Rush says, 'you guys change a class just when i wanna play it'

Blade says, 'I am wondering if this will take effect.. or if any further discussion has been had'

Rush says, 'it's boggling'

Nelson says, 'yeesh that would make fighting sandras evil mobs even worse for us nonmages'

Nelson shudders.

Nephiel comforts Rush.

Firefly says, 'you can easily avoid the lag'

Maloth peers at Nelson, looking him up and down.

Blade says to Firefly, 'how'

Kaige says to Blade, 'yeah, we talked about it last week at Q&A, and I suck.. I still haven't gotten that log up'

Blade chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

Firefly says to Blade, 'by not using a special duh'

Rush says, 'one of you must a have a direct pipeline to my brain'

Rush says, 'oh that jess chick is thinkin of making a full sniper, lets break flee'

Rush ducks to the ground.

Blade laughs.

Nephiel covers Rush with a tablecloth.

Rush laughs.

Firefly still thinks wimpy max would be powerfull that way.

Blade says, 'I think it is a good idea...'

Blade says, 'I also think reg mobs should stay down a round on specials and not hop back up before their attack..'

Nelson says, 'well you could just headbutt them, take prio and follow them around spamming kill till they turn off wimpy'

Blade says, 'just my random thoughts...'

Blade frowns.

Sandra says to Blade, 'I agree with you on that. But most of the time it's a code thing and not a builder thing that they don't ;)'

Blade shrugs helplessly.

Blade says, 'other than the kick flee nothing really bothers me.. oh other than the solution for pure fighters.. but we don need to chat about that'

Sandra says, 'we're working on that'

Blade nods his agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'I think the answer to the issue is this: give us your comments on the topic if you like, the idea is still in active planning'

Blade nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Pretitles Updated?

Firefly says to LadyAce, 'well uhm..I was just wondering if an update to pretitles was in the works, since the helpfile says updates are every January.'

Firefly scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

Firefly says, 'not a big question, just curious:)'

LadyAce says, 'it is indeed in the works. It's worked in to the discussions on post titles right now, that's the primary thing'

Firefly nods solemnly.

Firefly smiles at LadyAce.

Firefly says, 'thanks'

Spellbooks

Nelson says, 'are there spell books for people who have unimped spells in thier books since before they got impd? or are those people fine for cast levels? I heard this got asked before but I couldnt find it in QnA logs'

Nelson says, 'like chain lighting and control weather for example'

Sandra says, 'there are'

Nelson says, 'curses'

Herbert says, 'foiled again!'

Firefly says, 'help spellbooks'

Blade says, 'mmmmm chain lightning'

Sandra says, 'when a new spell goes in, a spellbook goes in with it =)'

Nelson says, 'was hoping for the good one, the lazy mans version'

Herbert says, 'if you had the spell cast before it was impd yer spells cast level is fine too'

Kaige says, 'oh.. and whoever asked about spellbooks: http://www.legendmud.org/Community/lectures/QandA/2002/QA_12_19_02.html# ALLSPELLS was the one I think you were trying to find'

Control Weather

Herbert says, 'control weather just sucks, its hard mana costs to achieve much with'

Herbert says, 'i spent all my mana to keep it snowing in San Frans before LA got there'

Herbert chuckles quietly to himself at something he found particularly humorous.

Blade chuckles politely.

Rush says, 'it does have this huge mana cost that makes it sorta useless if you actually wanna do anything else'

Nelson says, 'i'd like to think two or 3 causes controling and makin lightnin would hurt, should find out'

LadyAce giggles.

Blade says, 'how long does control weather last'

LadyAce hugs Herbert.

LadyAce says to Herbert, 'congrats on the expies nod there'

Rush says, 'its much fun a spell tho'

Herbert says, 'lasts as long as weather normally does i think..'

Herbert grins evilly at LadyAce.. wonder what he's thinking...

Kaige says to Blade, 'depends on how fickle the weather is in the area you cast it.'

Blade nods his agreement with Kaige.

Herbert says to LadyAce, 'yeah was fairly unexpected was just goin for a stringset nomination mostly, i was surprised a LOT by this years'

Kaige says, 'if the area is prone to fast changing weather, it may not last long...'

Firefly says, 'would also depend if you tried to make it snow in the desert? the durability i mean'

Herbert says, 'well imagine san frans.. its kinda warm usually..'

Herbert says, 'to make it snow and KEEP it snowing takes quite a bit..'

LadyAce says, 'if it seems like weather changes too fast in an area compared to others, you should drop an idea into the file that we set it down'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'unless it's in that one spot in Alhambra..'

Kaige giggles.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce giggles.

What's with Housing Charges?

Rush says, 'i read the board some'

Rush says, 'but can you go into whats wrong with housing?'

Kaige says, 'what was wrong with it, or why it's currently costing 0?'

Rush says, 'both'

LadyAce says, 'it was a bug that was making us crash instead of charge you guys for the housing'

Rush says, 'i mean you set it to zero cuz soemthing is wrong with it'

Kaige says, 'there was a memory corruption in it that when it ran, would make the server like a house of cards'

Herbert says, 'has my house poofed or is it just not showing on statement atm? i havent gone to look..'

Rush says, 'right?'

LadyAce says, 'we put in a fix, and we're testing it'

Rush says, 'prolly not showing'

Rush nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'the 0 cost is due to the test'

LadyAce says, 'we didn't want to have a rash of repossessions'

Herbert says, 'hope not cos my housing costs 5k and i have 180k..'

Rush says, 'is not 0 cost'

Rush says, 'is just not showing'

Herbert says, 'if it poofed im worried'

Herbert says, 'it doesnt show 0 cost it just doesnt show anything hehe'

Kaige says, 'it's set to zero, to make sure we caught the right fix and all of them. and so I could have a break and catch all the people who did pay during the crashy time and reimb them.'

Rush nods solemnly.

LadyAce has made so many backups of housing lately, it's not even funny!

Kaige says, 'which reminds me.. I need to bug Ruf to set it back to "normal"'

Spanish-Flea thinks immortal mistakes are always funny, hence silence's string :P

Rush says, 'nah'

Rush says, 'take yer time'

Rush giggles.

Rush says, 'but anyway'

Rush says, 'anything i do with housing right now is safe right?'

Rush says, 'like, drop something in there'

Rush says, 'it'll be saved?'

Kaige says, 'it should, as long as it would normally save'

Rush nods solemnly.

Rush says, 'coo coo'

Protection from Evil Unimped?

Spanish-Flea says, 'ok, I got a question about protection from evil'

Spanish-Flea says, 'basically what will it do when implemented, I was reading herblore about a certain herb giving it'

LadyAce says, 'I think it's in there because it's one of the few leftovers from Diku'

Spanish-Flea says, 'or does the herblore file just desperately need updating because it's never gonna be implemented'

Spanish-Flea watches the tumbleweed blow by.

LadyAce says, 'I don't know of any burning desire on the staff to implement it, but it's not out of the question or somethin? *flounders* *looks at Kaige*'

LadyAce has no idea why we've left it in :)

Sandra says, 'yea, me either'

Kaige is searching for it in the code... it doesn't have words associated with it.

Spanish-Flea says, 'oh well, just i'll just bug the herblore data next time I bump into it'

Chunk nods his agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'it's an aff for items, anyway'

Kaige says, 'oh wait.. no...'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'yah. it's a non-cast spell.. for objects...'

Kaige says, 'it's implemented'

LadyAce says, 'just doesn't do anything?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'there's not help on it on the site or in gmae'

Sandra says, 'it looks perdy'

Spanish-Flea nods his agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'for a limited definition of "implemented" then :)'

Sandra giggles.

Spanish-Flea says, 'it's like instant death or control weather, they look attractive'

LadyAce says, 'maybe it makes you feel better :)'

LadyAce says, 'it's about faith'

Kaige says, 'does a lot in the spell fucntion.. just not sure if the matching AFFECT got implemented.'

LadyAce says, 'you clearly don't believe.'

Spanish-Flea whaps LadyAce across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Spanish-Flea pokes Tim in the ribs.

Sandra says, 'hey I like control weather ;) My mage keeps it storming in her garden for days!'

Tim raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

LadyAce giggles at Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Rush cheers for Sandra - huzzah!

Briarwen says, 'drowning the poor plants?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'why drown them'

Sandra says, 'killing the squirrels'

Spanish-Flea says, 'watery death is more fun'

Nephiel goes EEK! in distress.

Kaige says, 'yup. another one where everything was done, except reaction to the AFFECT elsewhere'

Nephiel mourns the little squirrels.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'she doesn't like those furry little things'

Customizing Housing Descs

Itto says, 'Just a thought on houses. Is there a coupon whereby you can change a houses' description?'

Sandra says, 'nope!'

Itto says, 'Could there be?'

Sandra says, 'you can change room names to be with or without the names of the owner(s), that's about it'

LadyAce says, 'that may actually be in the housing faq...'

LadyAce says, 'yea, it's the 3rd item.'

Kaige says, 'there's the idea/mudmail the builder to suggest something you want route too'

LadyAce says, 'help housing-faq, 3rd Q'

Itto nods solemnly.

Rush says, 'is there a reason besides keeping areas consistent for not being able to modify housing?'

Sandra says, 'Well, my first thought was I didn't want a Spice Girl's bus in salem'

Sandra says, 'then I threw up'

LadyAce says, 'the process would be nightmarish....but the consistency is foremost.'

Nelson says, 'yeah, i'm a super powerful weather controlling mage, I want a skyscraper in Tara dangit :p'

Nelson ducks to the ground.

Sandra giggles.

Rush says, 'maybe it could be like player descs are done'

Sandra says, 'so in short, it's keeping in theme with the area'

LadyAce says, 'if you've ever tussled with the staff over a desc, imagine that times 40, and throw in the area builder :)'

Itto says, 'But it's possible in the code?'

Rush says, 'not a good idea?'

LadyAce says, 'it's not coded in to the mud, a change of that type would have to be made offline at present.'

Itto nods solemnly.

Itto says, 'So, if the description fitted in, it could be done.'

Sandra says, 'idea it or mail the builder. If it fits, sure, they can decide to add it'

Kaige says, 'that's why we suggest you mail the builder responsible for the area.'

LadyAce says, 'we have decided not to offer it to individuals, but we do take suggestions for additions to the area options.'

Sandra says, 'I added shops to Pittsburgh because of a player idea'

Itto says, 'Ok. Thanks.'

Kaige added the chapels and stuff to sherwood because of player suggestions

Rush says, 'yeah cheyla put some neat stuff into india'

LadyAce says, 'yeah, the last few changes in crusades housing have been player suggested'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Rush says, 'iwas crying about the lack of furniture'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'yea, there's some rad stuff in Sherwood nowadays'

Nephiel comforts Rush.

Vehicles

Spanish-Flea says, 'I wanna be able to own a car!'

LadyAce says to Spanish-Flea, 'you can :)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'not just pirate one from indus, customizably one!'

Nelson says, 'yeah cars would be cool, i want a pimped out escalade'

Spanish-Flea says, 'raising the question of why there are no industrial vehicles in lima, yet people from that hometown are allowed to operate them'

Sandra says to Spanish-Flea, 'everyone is able to operate a car'

Lorenzo says to Sandra, 'and that's why legend's mortality rate is so screaming high!'

Firefly says to Spanish-Flea, 'might just mean they have the knack for mechanical thingies'

Spanish-Flea says, 'klein is still a junk bucket'

Sandra giggles.

Spanish-Flea ducks to the ground.

Sandra nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

Stuff before Trees?

Chunk says, 'i know the answer to this.. but i gotta try'

Chunk snickers softly.

Chunk says, 'is it possible to get things before skilltrees? like a new hometown and a set of skills to play with instead of waiting for the full blown trees?'

Sandra says, 'we've been discussing that'

Lorenzo pats Chunk on the head.

Chunk says, 'ohhh?!'

Sandra says, 'next! ;)'

Sandra giggles.

Chunk laughs.

Nelson says, 'oh can I do a follow up to that?'

Firefly giggles.

Sandra says, 'nope!'

Chunk says, 'we want a taste ya know ;)'

Kaige says, 'we've also been doing things that will help us get to what we want to do with trees all along'

LadyAce says, 'the point of a new hometown would be to give a place for the new skills to be centered, so one doesn't go without the other'

Nelson says, 'evil!'

Sandra says, 'well, we've just been discussing it'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Chunk nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Chunk says, 'discussions always a good sign tho to that question :)'

LadyAce says, 'we've been mostly discussing what it'd take to get going with the skill stuff itself, now that we've cleared so many other issues out of the way'

Nelson says, 'are some towns already there gonna be hometowns maybe in the future?'

Spanish-Flea wants bengal to be the new hometown, with skills including dying in the streets and starving to death.

Sandra says, 'there is a list, yes'

Nephiel giggles at Spanish-Flea.

LadyAce says, 'Bengal is the one proposed to be the new hometown, yea.'

Tim pokes Spanish-Flea in the eye!

Spanish-Flea and poisoning players with infected needles.

Kaige says to Spanish-Flea, 'Bengal would need a LOT more help it's even smaller than london now'

Nelson says, 'I propose Sl!'

Nelson says, 'but I bet morts can propose'

Nelson sulks in the corner.

Rush says, 'love bengal! woo!'

Chunk says, 'oh so it sounds like there has been lots of talk of hometowns skills and skilltrees.. thats another good sign'

Nephiel laughs.

LadyAce says, 'Sanfran would be neat to make a hometown again.'

Sandra says, 'san fran, bengal, sherwood, nazca and I forget the rest'

Kaige says, 'again?'

Spanish-Flea pricks himself with a needle and hears the negal ht builder yell 'don't worry! keep walking around till you prick yourself with the antidote!'

Kaige says, 'it was never one.. just on the list of possibles.'

Rush says, 'i was gonna say'

Spanish-Flea says, 'bengal, blah'

Nephiel laughs.

Sandra says to Kaige, 'wasn't it one briefly?'

LadyAce says, 'it was....Ea had a char from there.'

Sandra says, 'Krusty was from san fran!'

Tim says, 'wouldn't the implementation of all this basically make everyone need to remake their characters?'

Spanish-Flea shakes his head.

Sandra says to Tim, 'nah'

Spanish-Flea says, 'not con creates you hobo :P'

Spanish-Flea whaps Tim across the back of the head - your ears ring in sympathy.

Chunk says, 'to be more specialized it would be a good idea..'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Kaige says, 'shows what I remember'

LadyAce says, 'we wouldn't want everyone to feel a need to remake their char'

Sandra giggles.

Sandra hugs Kaige.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'was a loooooong time ago :)'

Nephiel says, 'der uber-town'

Sandra nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Kaige says, 'was probably why I revamped it in the first place'

Nephiel smiles at Spanish-Flea.

Sandra says, 'probably :)'

Kaige says, 'because it sucked so bad as a hometown'

LadyAce says, 'hm, Mariachi I think was from there too'

LadyAce nods to herself.

Sandra says, 'I never got to make one from there, but I remember it being one'

Chunk nods his agreement with Sandra.

Chunk says, 'me too..'

Rush says, 'long ago was this?'

Sandra says, 'oh 8 years'

Chunk says, 'loooooong time ago..'

Rush says, 'it seems like i vaguely remember'

Rush says, 'maybe not'

Rush says, 'been here about 6'

Nephiel smiles at Rush.

Chunk says, 'alls i remember is everyone told me never to make there =p'

Nephiel says, 'i act about 6'

Rush says, 'prolly just hopeful thinking'

LadyAce says, 'I think it was before I immed, but not by a lot.'

Sandra says, 'way back when the mud was a newbie'

Sandra says, 'and it got lost going from arabia to tara'

Kaige giggles at Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Nelson snickers softly.

Nephiel giggles at Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'so I think that covers that....'

Kaige says to Sandra, 'back when you could only get there by going through industrial?'

Sandra says, 'ok, ok, it couldn't get from arabia to tara'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Chunk says to Sandra, 'hey that took me 2 years to get there =p'

Sandra giggles.

Lorenzo says to Sandra, 'i never got lost going from arabia to tara, i only got lost once I got there'

Lorenzo flops about helplessly.

Sandra giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'it was traumatic'

Chunk says, 'i would spend hours in the desert..'

Rush says, 'i about cried when i did the leaf trans'

Sandra says, 'I always ran into the serpent'

Rush says, 'take me back to taaaaaaraaaaaaa lol'

Chunk says, 'oh god yeah..'

LadyAce says, 'someone showed me how to get from arabia to tara, but they showed me really long and complicated ways, and so I always got lost trying to do it'

Spanish-Flea says, 'took me 2 weeks under delandel to know where every area on this mud was'

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'I was very disappointed when I learned the easy way :P'

Rush says, 'i still dunno that'

Rush laughs.

Chunk nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Spellbook Command Idea

Nelson says, 'I was reading that qna log about spellbooks but it just occured to me maybe we could actually have spellbooks like uh, items not just a command to see your spells'

Nelson says, 'and you could switch em around like a good stun book and a good sink book etc'

Firefly says to Nelson, 'they are items'

Nelson flops about helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'spellbook items are out there, that's what we're talkin about in the thing'

Sandra says to Nelson, 'there are items. For all the new spells to better your cast level'

Nelson says, 'I mean not just to get good cast levels for a spell'

Kaige says, 'lose your master spell book and suddenly you can't cast..'

Kaige snickers softly.

Sandra giggles.

Nelson nods his agreement with Kaige.

Nelson says, 'thats what I mean'

Kaige says, 'sounds like a good use for steal in pkill'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Sandra says, 'I can help you lose that master spellbook!;)'

LadyAce giggles at Sandra.

Nelson says, 'would be like stealing boats which I never got to try'

Nelson sulks in the corner.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'don't worry. Everyone had 30 boats in a week'

Chunk says to Kaige, 'shhhhh nobody likes steal in pk.. we gotta do it silently and not give out hints =p'

Kaige says, 'probably not enough fun factor to justify such a change at this late date.'

Sandra says, 'here, hold my boat while I kick yer butt'

Kaige giggles at Sandra.

Sandra giggles.

Sandra says, 'san fran rocked for boat storage!'

Nephiel laughs.

Repairing guns and bows?

Nelson says, 'if I remember you cant repair bows or guns, but is there a skill coming before uh, skill trees to do so?'

Nelson says, 'my gun is gonna die, I love that thing'

Nelson bursts into tears.

Nephiel comforts Nelson.

Kaige picks up a MaGiC EiGhTbAlL and shakes it vigorously.

Kaige peers into her magic ball and declares, 'Signs point to yes.'

Kaige says, 'but I wouldn't trust this thing.'

Sandra giggles.

Nelson says, 'dang'

Firefly giggles.

LadyAce giggles at Kaige.

Rush rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Kaige says, 'that's what that whole "we're talking about seeing what we can do about skills thing" earlier was'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Bug with Items & Resets?

Tim says, 'I've noticed recently that alot of shopkeeper mobs have "lost" their standard items'

Tim says, 'and won't get them back until a crash, even if killed'

Sandra raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Lorenzo says to Tim, 'it's the economy'

Tim says, 'just curious as to why?'

Firefly says to Tim, 'such things hapen if people steal them i think....?'

Tim says, 'even after they've been killed the item won't come back'

Kaige says, 'even if they're killed?'

Tim nods solemnly.

Tim says, 'the nurse in london for example'

Sandra says, 'that sounds dholish'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Tim says, 'she died twice while i was trying to get pills from her'

Kaige looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tim says, 'and right after the crash she had them'

Tim says, 'same thing happened with the tinker and parchment'

Tim says, 'and Mistress quickley and ale'

LadyAce says, 'sounds weird....'

Tim says, 'as soon as mud crashes they're fine'

LadyAce says, 'when did you start noticing this?'

Kaige says, 'normal reset on that one.'

Sandra says, 'funky'

Tim says, 'bout a week or two ago'

Sandra says, 'dhole!'

Tim says, 'hmm should've bugged this shouldn't I?'

Sandra says, 'when in doubt, bug it ;)'

Tim says, 'just annoyed me beyond belief trying to get an item for a quest'

Tim says, 'ending up killing the shopkeeper 3-4 times'

Tim says, 'and still no item'

Chunk says, 'ugh.. must go lay down..'

Kaige says, 'might be somethbug he says until the mud restarts'

Chunk waves happily.

Tim says, 'then mud crashes'

Tim says, 'and shopkeeper magically restocks the item'

Tim says, 'I've noticed it happen with non-quest related items too'

Sandra says, 'neat'

Kaige says, 'might be part of the change I made to shopkeepers about then that was to keep our objects in memory down... but I wouldn't think it'd affect it over mob repops'

Tim says, 'right after quickley respawned once she would only sell me paper'

Tim says, 'nothing else, just paper'

Sandra says, 'our bugs are getting more and more interesting!'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Nephiel shows his approval by clapping his hands together.

Kaige says, 'damn dholes'

Kaige spits on the ground.

Jakov blinks at Kaige.

Tim says, '(I think it's a conspiracy of the shopkeeper mobs against me, it happened to me twice in one day)'

Tim says, 'and it's irritating as can be when it happens'

Sandra giggles.

Nephiel says, 'could be a trust forming...'

Kaige says to Jakov, 'dhole isalso our word for inexplicable bug: the dholes in seoni used to wander off when they shouldn't have been ableto.'

Itto starts up Google and looks up dhole: an asiatic wild dog?

Kaige nods her agreement with Itto.

Tim says, 'I have to get a bunch of people together, start making charmies and trying to lag the mud into crashing.'

Sandra nods solemnly.

Tim pets Spanish-Flea lovingly.

Sandra says, 'dhoooooooooole'

Kaige says to Itto, 'we have some out on the dekkan in seoni in india'

Sandra says, 'in my best bob dole voice'

Tim says, 'the only response to shopkeeper mobs conspiring against me is repeatedly shouting out about an african dog type animal?'

Kaige says, 'basically, I'll try to duplicate it on my testmud and see if I goofed something up bigtime with the change I made to the shopkeepers and how they handle their inventory'

Pkill vs Rest of Mud

Rush says, 'i could ask if you all really love pkers and hate everyone else'

Firefly raises her eyebrow at Rush.

Rush says, 'but i figured if you had an aswer you woulda posted'

Navajero groans loudly.

Rush giggles.

Sandra says, 'um, I can answer that one for ya real fast ;)'

Rush says, 'i keep waiting for that thread to explode'

Sandra says, 'Most imms hate pk and want it pulled'

Sandra says, 'well, half the imms'

Firefly thought it was the other way around, if anything!

LadyAce says, 'I don't see where we've displayed an irrational love of pk over other types of players :) everyone says we love or hate whatever they are/aren't :)'

Sandra says, 'others like it and want the pkillers pulled!;)'

LadyAce says, 'it's true that pkers do bring some amount of hassle to non pkers.'

Rush says, 'i just wanted to hear the commentary'

Rush giggles.

Rush says, 'i have no opinion really'

Rush goes EEK! at Sandra in distress - isn't Sandra an awful person for teasing?

LadyAce says, 'one thing that you might noticed, historically, about the relationship between the code and pk is this:'

LadyAce says, 'balance problems are much more obvious and glaring in the pk arena than they are in player versus fodder'

Navajero says, 'Well, tengo que irme'

Briarwen thinks the reason you hear more about pk related stuf then mobkill is 'cause the mobs don't complain about losing all the time.

Sandra says, 'pk is a pita'

Firefly giggles at Briarwen.

Kaige nods her agreement with Briarwen.

Sandra giggles.

Firefly says, 'i think all the ... issues that are being aired with pkill kind of drowns out those who actually enjoy the way it is.'

Jakov says to Firefly, 'there's any of you?'

Firefly giggles at Jakov.

Firefly ruffles Jakov's hair playfully.

LadyAce says, 'okie, thanks for coming, everyone :)'

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

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