January 23rd, 2003

Giving Multiple Items for Quests

Sigurd says, 'Last night I did a quest in Romania involving two pieces of a key. The person repairing the key says:'Just give me the pieces and I'll see what I can do.' SO I typed in "Give 2*key .'

Sigurd says, 'The mob then proceeds saying : 'Ok, and the other piece?' And I obviously don't have the other half, cause I already gave it to him. I have reported this to BUG, btw.'

Kaige says, 'you can't give them both at the same time.'

LadyAce says, 'the mobs can't catch it if you do it that fast'

Sandra says, 'mobs can't handle that. It's unfortunate, but not a bug ;)'

Kaige says, 'the acts cannot recognize both that way.'

Sigurd says to Kaige, 'i figured as much, but the mob says Give me the pieces...'

Tennessee says, 'Yeah, mobs just suck at multitasking.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Tennessee.

Sigurd says, 'then should maybe the mob insteaad say: Give me one piece, and then theother"??

Sandra says, 'he probably should, yea.'

Sigurd says, 'like : Give me the key handle...'

Kaige says to Sigurd, 'you should put that on idea.'

Sigurd says, 'and Give me the ...whatever the other name is'

Sandra's fixing it now.

Sigurd says to Kaige, 'already did :P'

Sigurd smiles at Kaige.

Kaige smiles at Sigurd.

Klein Advantage?

Sigurd says, 'Second question is this: Has the "Klein advantage" been discussed before, and if so, where can I find info on it?'

LadyAce says, 'a search on the website would bring up the answer for you'

Sigurd says, 'I hear all knids of things about the Klein ad..but no consistency in teh rumors'

Sigurd says, 'ok'

LadyAce says, 'I think it's in the helps too'

Losing XP in Crashes?

Sigurd says, 'Third question'

Sigurd says, 'Is xp lost from crashes re-imb'able? For instance you kill a mob just prior to a crash?'

Sandra shakes her head.

Kaige says, 'see help REIMB'

Sigurd says, 'okies'

Sigurd says, 'thats it!'

Kaige comforts Sigurd.

Sigurd thanks LadyAce heartily.

LadyAce smiles at Sigurd.

Kaige says to Sigurd, 'if you're using a client you may want to set up an auto-save triggger ever time you get xp'

Kaige says, 'it really helps with that.'

Sigurd says to Kaige, 'That is a good idea. I just lost a few hundred k last night during the crash wave of 10 crashes...*sigh*'

Pk Healing Scenario

Silence says, 'I have a question about PK and healing after fights'

Silence says, 'After 2 people finish a fight or stop fighting is it allowed for a non-PK person with both of their permissions to heal by passing balm or poultices?'

Tobias grimaces.

Sandra says, 'yep'

Kaige says, 'keyphrase being "both their permissions"'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Sigurd says, 'the key being both's premissions'

Ridic nods solemnly.

Silence blinks at Sigurd.

Silence says, 'Ok'

Silence says, 'perfect.'

Azeem says, 'so no matter if the non-pk is rejected by the one who needs heal ?'

Sandra says, 'if both the fighters ok the healing, then it's ok'

Silence smiles happily.

Silence says, 'that's all it has to be.'

Ridic says, 'yeah that should be'

Progress on Hades and Hell?

Tobias says, 'Probably have heard this one a kabillion times as usual, but I figured I'd ask - what's the status on some of the new areas (Hades and Hell, in particular). Is work on them still progressing?'

Sandra says, 'Hades is in limbo. Hell is still being worked on'

Kaige says, 'Hades - no. Hell, yes.'

Tobias hangs his head.

Tobias says, 'At least Hell's still in the works ^_~'

Sigurd thinks new Hell is the most anticipated entertainment installation since Phantom Menace and Fellowship of the Rings...

Tobias grins evilly at Sigurd.. wonder what he's thinking...

Wary/Agg with Stun

Silence says, 'I have read help agg'

Silence says, 'It states that missile weapons and spells are not affected by it...'

Silence says, 'Yet, there are tons of cases where being less agg allows you to dodge the stun spell and if you are more agg you get stunned more with guns and spells'

Sandra says, 'You can't get more damage out of either by going agg, yep'

Silence says, 'Does agg affect chance to stun during combat then?'

Sandra says, 'I don't think agg/wary make a difference on either of those.'

Silence says, 'I find with many people who agree that going 3 agg in a fight gets you stunned and paralyzed much more'

Silence says, 'And stun spell hits more often on a 3 agg person then non-agg person'

LadyAce says, 'agg/wary has a role in the 'turns to attack' type formula too, is what I've observed'

LadyAce says, 'it makes sense, if you toss yourself closer to battle, you're more likely to get blows.'

Silence nods solemnly.

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rush nods solemnly.

Silence says, 'But the help file states otherwise'

Silence says, 'I agree with more agg = more stuns'

Rush says, 'it's very obvious while fighting that wary/agg affects turning'

LadyAce says, 'agg = easier to be hit, in the file'

Sandra says, 'I've never noticed a difference on stuns. I land them alot no matter what ;)'

Silence says to Sandra, 'me too'

Tobias laughs.

LadyAce says, '"hit" isn't defined, true.'

Silence says, 'so this is all just luck'

Sandra says, 'I don't see anything in backstab about it. But I could be missing something'

LadyAce says, 'put it in as a request, to clarify the role of agg in spells in combat'

Silence nods solemnly.

Silence says, 'where would I do that?'

LadyAce says, 'it may be that it's a part of some generic/over arching formula but not the specific-to-the-skill/spell formula, if that makes sense'

Sandra says, 'idea it'

Silence nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'i.e. it changes 'who we're attacking this minute' -- not 'hit them with exactly x, and no more''

Rush says, 'this might be pure conjecture'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Rush.

Rush says, 'but does fighting agg affect you in some way that in turn might make you easier to stun?'

Rush says, 'but not directly so no one ever noticed it?'

Silence nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'it puts you in closer. But it doesn't matter with say... backstab, or even shoot. Coz you're probably not aware at first that it's coming.'

Rush nods solemnly.

Silence says, 'shooting between rounds you know its coming'

Rush says, 'i personally usually run around 3 wary'

Rush says, 'so i dunno what it's like fighting agged up'

Rush giggles.

Silence says, 'thanks guys'

LadyAce smiles at Silence.

Skill Lag & Spamming?

Azeem says, 'how bad would it be with a skillag on skills like bash and backstab ?'

Sandra raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Sandra says, 'they have a skill lag... ?'

Sigurd says to Sandra, 'I think he is suggesting it'

Azeem says, 'i mean if they type with the victim not in the room..'

Rush says, 'i dun understand'

Sandra says, 'no, I'm saying they have one already ;)'

Sandra says, 'oh you mean spamming it'

Azeem nods solemnly.

Rush says, 'oh i see'

LadyAce says, 'I think non-mage types would find that a hard blow to stand'

Rush nods solemnly.

Sigurd nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'it's kinda hokey, but I think it'd mess up people's chars'

Sigurd flexes his muscles, lifting a fork-tongued sword like a barbell.

Rush says, 'as would that change to flee'

Sandra says, 'well, I like the flee idea. And I want it ;)'

Rush says, 'that was mentioned on the discussion board'

Rush says, 'how about a skill with it'

Rush says, '80 dex or something'

Sandra says, 'well, it'd have a lag too'

Rush says, 'but since it has a high req and takes a prac have it have less lag'

Rush says, 'oh wait i thought you were talking about making flee disable during skill lag'

Rush says, 'not lagging flee'

Sandra says, 'Yea, I think it should require the skill lag to be over'

Rush says, 'oh'

Rush says, 'well what about a skill like dodge'

LadyAce says, 'let's stick with the original question about spamming, or at least make sure it's covered, before we launch far into the flee thing'

Rush says, 'maybe dun always go off'

Rush says, 'oh sorry'

Azeem smiles at LadyAce.

Sandra says, 'I agree with LA about the spamming thing. It'd be nice, but it'd be a really hard blow'

Azeem says, 'maybe make people disoriented if they spam a skill too much in one room'

Azeem says, 'then it would make them move a few rooms and then spam their skill like 5 times..'

Azeem says, 'then move again'

Sandra says, 'it'd be funny if people spamming headbutt randomly fell over tho ;)'

Rush says, 'especially hard on people who accidentally go the wrong direction alla time when kick fleeing'

Rush scuffles her feet around in the dirt.

LadyAce says, 'well, but why do you not like the spamming? :) because it's silly, or ...?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'who likes a spammer!'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Spanish-Flea's head.

Bovine says, 'other muds will pop up a message if you spam a skill to much telling you to stop spamming'

LadyAce says, 'it's like the only defense alot of folks have against mages'

Basara hides from the onslaught of spam.

Kaige says, 'another thing to consider is we've been refunding mana for spells that miss typo'd/not there targets as they're reported too... so kinda the same idea there'

Rush says, 'it doesn't show to the room when you spam kick or something'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Rush says, 'so why does anyone else care?'

Spanish-Flea says, 'not fully though! what if I fail a control weather!'

Spanish-Flea ducks to the ground.

LadyAce giggles at Spanish-Flea.

LadyAce comforts Spanish-Flea.

Sandra says, 'and I think the lag on it is almost none too'

Spanish-Flea watches his mana go from 700 to 0 in one failed cast.

LadyAce says, 'Goddess help you if you fail a control weather'

Sandra giggles.

Kaige says, 'I think you always fail control weather if you try to cast it on a target.'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Spanish-Flea had to control weather to test out chain lightning and realized it sucked.

Bovine says, 'its currently bad enough for pure hitters in pkill without making them lag their skills when fighting, thats just my opinion though'

Sandra says, 'if your cast level is bad, it does suck ;) Fix your cast level'

Ramirez says, 'my create uses control weather he loves it =)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'that's because lightning bolt is the only decent dam create spell'

Azeem raises his eyebrow at Ramirez.

Ramirez says to Spanish-Flea, 'SO NOT true'

Sandra says, 'If you think that, you should get out more =P'

Ramirez nods his agreement with Sandra.

Rush says, 'mages are too confusing'

Spanish-Flea says, 'it is when wet'

LadyAce says, 'Ok, so to refocus us :) did anyone have other comments about the flee lag proposal on discussion? :)'

Rush says, 'gimme a kickfleer anyday'

Tennessee says to Rush, 'amen'

Wimpy and Skill Lag

Sandra says, 'anyway, did we answer the spamming thingie? I wanna go back to the flee thingie ;)'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says, 'take it away, Sandra! :)'

Sandra says, 'ok!'

Rush grins evilly.

Sandra says, 'here's my thoughts on a flee fix type thing'

Lorenzo says, 'seems to be there's a difference between typing flee and fleeing cause of wimpy'

LadyAce says, 'after that tho, we're going back to the queue of hands and stuff :)'

Lorenzo says, 'one's premeditated, the other's totally panicky'

Sandra says, 'Flee should follow skill lag. Currently, it doesn't which allows free attacks.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

LadyAce says, 'and provides the foundation for the kick-flee tactic :P'

Spanish-Flea says, 'i'm 112 rent away from being over eq, and that's after junking all my hellebore, before that an orb would put me overrent'

Spanish-Flea says, 'mistell'

Sandra says, 'since typing flee follows the lag, hitting wimpy should as well'

Bovine says, 'if you were to put a lag on flee, it would overbalance those who do not depend on it, snipers would become like fighters are now, obsalete in pkill'

Kaige says, 'and does for mobs.'

Sandra says, 'Nah'

Kaige says, 'I don't think we need a lag on flee itself'

Rush says, 'that seems like a rather large change'

Lorenzo says, 'but I don't know anything about pk or balance, so I'm not sure my thoughts count for much'

Sandra says, 'a sniper can handle a round of attacks'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

Lorenzo shrugs helplessly.

Ramirez says to Bovine, 'you don't use snipers so much then'

Rush says, 'maybe to balance there could be a skill like dodge'

Sandra says, 'it just needs to follow skill lag'

Rush says, 'that would allow you to wimpy flee without waiting for lag'

Rush says, 'just someoetimes when it goes off'

Ramirez says, 'we have a skill called that'

Rush says, 'whats that?'

Sandra says, 'If there was a skill(there is one btw ), it would be much different'

Bovine says, 'really? think about it, if you go in and kick expecting to flee out and move again, if all of a sudden your skill lagged, your oponet if there worth a spit will own you'

Ramirez says, 'dodge ya dodge attacks gah'

Spanish-Flea says, 'dodge is funny'

Spanish-Flea dodges bullets on his perc/dex.

Kaige says to Bovine, 'kinda like what happens to mobs now.'

Sandra says to Bovine, 'Yea? What about the opponent that's stuck there 2 rounds after a bash?'

Bovine says, 'bash is not in spec either really, imho'

Sandra says, 'IMO, nothing should be free =P'

Ramirez says, 'I think one round skill on wimpy out is logical'

Ramirez nods his agreement with Sandra.

Sandra says, 'oh, 1 round is fine'

Ramirez says to Bovine, 'then you don't think kick is either ?'

Ramirez says, 'ya need a sec to calm or something but *shrug*'

Sandra says, 'but if we're going for following skill lag, then it should follow skill lag'

Bovine says, 'I dont think a lot of things in this fight system are in spec with other things'

Lorenzo says, 'I guess my feelings are predicated on not much caring for the wimpy-based skill-flee tactic... but I don't have a good sense of how much one seriously *needs* to use it, vs. using it as a convenience.'

Bovine says, 'whos not calm, please dont jump to conclusions about me rameriz, you clearly have no idea who I am'

Kaige says, 'technically, it looks like a one line bug fix to me, since I don't believe mobs and players should react differently in the same situation.'

Rush says to Lorenzo, 'this char couldn't solo anything without wimpy flee'

Sandra says to Lorenzo, 'the only ones that seriously need to use it are those with the inability to do anything strategic in their fighting ;)'

Spanish-Flea says, 'yeah, like fleeing is strategic'

Spanish-Flea laughs.

Ramirez says to Bovine, 'well I don't judge your ideas on who you are... '

Rush sniffs sadly.

Sandra says to Spanish-Flea, 'that's what I said'

Lorenzo says to Rush, 'I know characters exist who can't, but... could that be fixed separately?'

Lorenzo says to Rush, 'I have some characters like that. I just don't use 'em much, cause I don't like wimpy'

Ramirez says to Bovine, 'you could be a dead guy, a living guy what ever... I just don't agree because I think it's working fine well more lag on wimpy out would be logical imho'

Bovine says, 'in the end, it would have to depend on how many rounds one is skill lagged from wimpy flee'

Kaige says, 'which mostly depends on what skill you're using, so you have some controll over that'

Sandra says, 'well no, it would depend on the skill you used'

Ramirez says, '?'

Kaige underlines mostly and some in her above statement.

LadyAce says, 'Does anyone else want to comment on the topic?'

Kaige says, 'since some skills used on you also cause you a delay'

Rush says, 'i am still confused'

Ramirez nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says, 'ok, lemme explain it ;)'

LadyAce says to Rush, 'which bit? :)'

Rush says, 'what skill does exactly what a wimpy flee does?'

Sandra says, 'say 'm max wimpy'

Bovine says, 'I just think it should be tested thouroughly before ever being implamented, I just feel there would a balance issue'

Sandra says, 'and I kick RUsh'

Rush goes EEK! in distress.

Sandra says, 'I can't flee until my kick lag is gone'

Spanish-Flea kicks rush in the head.

Rush says, 'right'

Sandra says, 'that's 2 rounds. BUT!'

Sandra says, 'if I bashed her'

Rush nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'that's 3 rounds'

Sandra says, 'that's what makes the difference'

Kaige feels there's ALREADY a balance issue and it's ugly when people kick-flee a mob to death without taking a single hit.

Ramirez nods his agreement with Kaige.

Rush says, 'the part i am confused about is that earlier you guys said there is a skll that does something identical to wimpy flee'

Basara says, 'kick flee? w/o damage? wow... I've never been able to do that...'

Kaige says, 'no.. we said there's already a dodge skill.. that's all.'

Rush nods her agreement with Basara.

Spanish-Flea liked the part about telling imms he could rent to reset agg and snipe a few dozen mobs without losing a single hp and then letting him do it

Sandra says, 'oh! it's not in, sorry. But there is one coded. Retreat'

Kaige says, 'very different in nature from that.'

Bovine says, 'yes, that may be true and it happens all the time, but there are other things to consider'

Ramirez says to Basara, 'with not as much damage'

Rush says, 'oh'

Lorenzo says to Basara, 'I can do it sometimes. I feel embarrassed when I get away with it'

Rush says, 'i was sayng'

Basara says, 'ok'

Rush says, 'if this large a change goes in'

Basara says, 'I just suck.'

Rush says, 'the retreat thing should go in as well'

Grani stops using a small brass lantern.

Basara brutally slays the lagmonster.

Kaige says, 'which also wouldn't kick in until your previous skill lag had gone through.'

Sandra says, 'well, don't think that it'll make fleeing easier, or overrun skill lag, coz it won't :)'

Ramirez says, 'what is retreat about ?'

Sandra says, 'it's fun tho!'

Rush says, 'then its not what i was talking about'

Sandra's been playing with it.

Kaige says, 'controlled fleeing in a particular direction'

Ramirez says, 'ahhhh'

Kaige says, 'not just blind panic to take the fastest way out'

Rush says, 'what i am saying is an automatic skill like dodge'

Bovine says, 'now retreat sounds logical to have skill lag'

Ramirez says to Kaige, 'so retreat is blind panic fastest way out ?'

Sandra says, 'flee is blind panic. Retreat is controlled'

Kaige says to Ramirez, 'no. you have to choose which direction.'

Ramirez nods his agreement with Kaige.

Sandra says to Rush, 'I can tell ya now, we wouldn't ever allow a skill to make less lag from another skill/command ;)'

Ramirez says, 'sorry got confused'

LadyAce gets sudden visions of people retreating from into the DT.

Rush says, 'something that sends you fleeing from the fight at wimpy without skill lag, but not every time, only sometimes, and automatic, you dun get to choose'

LadyAce says, 'at least flee protects you from DTs :)'

Sandra giggles.

Ramirez says, 'can ya be feared into dts btw ?'

LadyAce says, 'in a blind panic, running every which way, you narrowly avoid the giant spiked pit and the nearby cliff. Lucky you!'

Rush laughs.

Sandra shakes her head in disagreement with Ramirez.

Ramirez says, 'but ya can fear people into slay rooms right ?'

Sandra says, 'yea'

Kaige says, 'unless it's got a flag on the exits into it to prevent it'

Ramirez says, 'I can still have fun with fear then'

Sandra says, 'consider dt's NOFLEE exits'

Rush says, 'may i ask'

Rush says, 'what would the point of the kickflee tactic at all'

Ramirez nods his agreement with Sandra.

Bovine says, 'there are also other tatics while using wimpy, dex/con use warcry flee a good deal'

Sandra says, 'you could still do it. You just need to time it better instead of not paying attention'

Sandra says, 'well, any skill/flee'

Rush says, 'doesn't make sense'

Rush says, 'if i kick, tank 2 rounds, flee, come back and kick'

Rush says, 'i may as well have never fleed'

Bovine nods his agreement with Rush.

Kaige says to Bovine, 'I find that's more making the victim flee that's more successful with warcry'

Rush says, 'whats the point of the flee?'

Dolor blinks.

Bovine nods his agreement with Kaige.

Kaige says to Rush, 'all you've done is lose xp'

Rush nods her agreement with Kaige.

Rush says, 'exactly'

Bovine says, 'but, if you can get one special per round instead of two tanking, may as well do that if you can'

Ramirez says, 'so the idea is to make lag after or before ya wimpy out ? and 1 round on retreat ?'

Sandra says, 'tactics! I'm already plotting'

Sandra drools contentedly.

Rush says, 'so this changing the flee thing would effectively eliminate kickflee tactics'

Kaige says, 'which you're still doing, but there's an extremely higher payoff in what you can get by being able to kill more efficiently'

Sandra says to Ramirez, 'no'

Sandra says, 'pay attention boy!'

Sandra giggles.

Ramirez says, 'hmmm'

Ramirez says, 'thought ya were putting skilllag on wimpy'ing out =P'

Sandra says, 'No'

Kaige says, 'no.. simply making it obey the skilllag you already have on you'

Sandra says, 'if I'm max wimpy and I kick you'

Sandra says, 'then I won't flee til the kick lag is gone'

Bovine says, 'I think they were saying keeping you in the fight for the duration of your skill lag before you can wimpy'

Ramirez says, 'ahhhh'

Rush says, 'so why bother fleeing at all?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Bovine.

Ramirez says, 'more logical'

Ramirez bonks himself on the head and looks sheepish.

Bovine says, 'therefor, flee only comes into affect if you dont want to die'

Rush says, 'i mean if you want to remove kickflee from the game'

Lorenzo says to Rush, 'it could still keep the opponent from skilling you before you flee out'

Tennessee looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tennessee says, 'If I may...'

Rush says to Lorenzo, 'only if they bash'

LadyAce says, 'bovine has the next hand, if he still has a question and we're done talking about fleeing :)'

Rush says, 'we are?'

Tennessee says, 'perhaps it might be more advantageous to have mobs respond to the tactic rather than removing the tactic'

Sandra says, 'nah, if they hit you with a skill a round after you hit yours, you're still a round up'

Rush says, 'i am eternally confused, i swear'

Lorenzo says to Rush, 'not only bash'

Kaige says, 'why do we bother setting skill lags in the first place then?'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Rush says, 'i thought kickflee was a wanted part of the system'

Rush says, 'if it's not then making flee obey skill lag makes sense'

Tennessee says, 'I always thought of it as a viable tactic...hit and fade'

Sandra says, 'kick/flee is sort of a wussy way out'

Tennessee wrinkles his nose at Sandra.

Tennessee says, 'Nuh uh!'

Sandra says, 'sure it is. And I use it :)'

Tennessee says, 'Just as much as sniping'

Tennessee chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'kick/flee as it is currently can be done to kill mobs with almost 0 risk'

Sandra says, 'well don't get me started on snipe =P'

LadyAce says, '0 risk is rarely desireable'

Tennessee says, 'Well, then have mobs respond...have mobs incite'

Tennessee says, 'Counter tactics!'

Sandra says, 'some do. But then I'm told my mobs cheat =P'

Kaige says, 'which is why I said it looks like a one line bug fix... making players respect their skill lag as well.'

Tennessee laughs.

Rush says, 'i must suck at this game'

Rush says, 'kickfleeing is SO not no-risk for me'

Lorenzo says to Tennessee, 'I think it's not just mobs, though... seemed like this came up as a pk thing, a response to backstabbing. but maybe I misunderstood... it's happened'

Tennessee raises his eyebrow at Lorenzo.

Bovine says, 'im all for skill lag finishing before wimpy taking affect, because that makes sense, but im not for lag on wimpy itself'

Sandra says, 'I've used it for 8 years, it's the easiest way to kill pretty much everything you can run from'

Sandra says, 'nah we wouldn't lag wimpy'

Tennessee says to Lorenzo, 'Well, there's no excuse in pk...I mean, if you can bind, incite, etc, you can take a kick flee-er'

Kaige says, 'no lag on wimpy or the invoked flee command itself.'

LadyAce says, 'not every char is suited for kick/flee...if you can't kick or flee to save your life to begin with, for example :P'

Lorenzo shrugs helplessly.

Tennessee looks up into the sky and ponders.

Lorenzo says to Tennessee, 'just echoing. I know nada.'

Tennessee says to Lorenzo, 'Assuming, of course, that's the only trick they got'

Bovine says, 'it would make dex/druids a little more inafective in pk'

Sandra says, 'seriously tho, if you're that dependent on skill/flee, you should try different things. That's a bad one to be dependent on'

Sandra nods her agreement with Bovine.

Sandra says, 'ok!'

Rush wrinkles her nose with distaste.

LadyAce hugs Sandra.

Rush says, 'one last thing?'

Rush says, 'yall aren't jus gonna put this in next week right?'

Rush says, 'more talking about it?'

Kaige says, 'it's not in the lineup for next week, no.'

Rush looks scared.

Tennessee says, 'But week *after* next!'

Tennessee winks suggestively.

Long Repops & Skill Lag?

Bovine says, 'my questions are about game speed in general, what is the purpose for extremely long repops? why slow down game dynamics in this way?'

Bovine says, 'or skills like make bandage and rolling bandages'

Rush says, 'oh god yess'

Rush says, 'roll bandage is insane'

Bovine says, 'currently you have to roll each bandage and there is a bit of skill lag, what purpose is there to this?'

Kaige says, 'long repops are generally about supply and balance.'

LadyAce says, 'the idea with long repops for mobs it to prevent the kind of mega killing spree/money spree/eq spree we'd see if everything was always available'

Rush says, 'how the hell long does it take t roll a bandage? not that long! lol'

Sandra says, 'You think it's bad now! YOu shoulda been around when Oonagh and Finarra were only once per reboot!'

Kaige says to Bovine, 'you don't get less size/weight bandages for free. You have to take time to do itneatly.'

Bovine says, 'ok, but an hour rl repop, is this not a little long?'

Sandra says, 'no?'

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce says, 'our idea is not that you sit there for an hour and wait'

Bovine says, 'at what point does game speed and realism take away from simple game fun though?'

Rush says, 'considering there are mobs that take like 8 hours to repop'

LadyAce says, 'it's that you go do something else and come back, or check in whenever later'

Rush says, 'an hour is ok'

Rush giggles.

Sandra says, 'an hour is pretty low. There's lots of trouble to get into in an hour'

Kaige says, 'depends on what you're willing to do in that hoour while you're waiting.. if you're sitting there by yourself... it's gonna suck'

Tennessee says, 'Not always'

Tobias says, 'go explore, find more areas to raid!'

Tennessee nods at a bottle of dandelion wine indicating his choice.

Sandra says, 'get into trouble! Yea! Trouble!'

Kaige says, 'if you're with a group and have things to do/talk about/something to do in the meantime... it'll pass much quicker'

Kaige nods her agreement with Tobias.

LadyAce says, 'talk, chat, rp, xp, explore, figure out a pesky quest....'

Kaige says, 'go kill some of the mobs that didn't get killed ONCE last year...'

Tobias says, 'or just hit a DT. Then you can, um, level while getting your EQ back.'

Rush says, 'clean house, do yer homework ...'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Rush's head.

LadyAce giggles at Tobias.

Sandra says, 'have donuts, take a nap, order pizza'

Tobias says, 'lather, rinse, repeat, and you'll be fifty in no time.'

Bovine rolls his eyes heavenward.

LadyAce says, 'help a newbie, eat a pizza.....'

Bovine says, 'sorry, it just seems like in the case of rolling a bandage, that realism is taking away from just plain fun'

Sandra says, 'seriously tho, an hour isn't long. We don't want mobs with 'good' eq to be fast on the repop. It should be slow'

Sandra says, 'as for the rolling bandage thing, I dunno coz I don't use it ;)'

Tobias says to Bovine, 'if you hunt in areas that aren't frequented so much (there's lots of places), you'll find it easier.'

Rush says, 'on the bandage roll thing, that seems nutty to me'

Kaige says to Bovine, 'it's as small as it can be'

LadyAce says, 'one way to think of the bandage thing -- it's like, the skill you use when you're sitting around the campfire with nothing to do.'

Rush says, 'it takes for freaking EVER to get a couple rolls made up'

Kaige says, 'does not.'

Rush says, 'i'll brb'

Rush laughs.

Tennessee chuckles politely.

Bovine says, 'it takes easily up to 10 minutes rl to roll 5 rolls from scratch if there is mud lag'

LadyAce says, 'I think it feels like a long time, but 30 seconds feels like an eternity if you're using a computer, so....'

Kaige says, 'sorry.. I play a full druid so I know.'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Tennessee says, 'I think the definition of "for freakin' ever" is what is in question here'

Bovine says, 'could there not be a command like roll bandage 7 to roll y bandages a little more quickly?'

Tobias says, 'do it during that repop downtime ^_~'

Tobias ducks to the ground.

LadyAce giggles at Tobias.

Rush says, 'okie'

Bovine says, 'im sorry, I really dont like being made fun of, could you please stop'

Rush says, 'it takes 1-2 minutes ig to roll a bandage'

Rush says, 'thats not as bad as i thought'

Rush says, 'but still'

Rush says, 'come on'

Tobias says to Bovine, 'I'm not making fun of you, don't worry. '

Rush says, 'a piece of cloth, rolled it up, 15 seconds, max'

Tennessee raises his eyebrow at Menion.

Kaige nods her agreement with Rush.

LadyAce says, 'I don't think that's anyone's intention here...we're being perhaps a litle lighthearted about it, but it's not a disparagement of you on any level'

Tobias says to Bovine, 'It really is something to do during that time if you're not out hunting for other stuff to do'

Rush says, 'i have more to say about bandages ... but I'llw ait in line'

Rush giggles.

Bovine says, 'well, im trying something I think is kinda new here, a str/dex hitter with base stats for first aid, I find I am spending more time rolling bandages then I am enjoying the game'

Bovine says, 'but that is just my general feeling'

Sandra says, 'I have one of those! But, then again I have one of everything'

LadyAce says, 'the benefit of rolling isn't so giant that it's worth ruining your play over'

Rush grins evilly at Sandra.. wonder what she's thinking...

Kaige says, 'What I do with my druid is make sure I loot kills with clothing and make them as I need them.'

Kaige says, 'most places now.. very easy to keep up with the need instead of stockpiling too much in advance'

Lorenzo says, 'it does sort of call into question why the * doens't work tho. is that because of skill lag, because all instances but the first are ignored?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

LadyAce says, 'the mobs only see the first'

LadyAce says, 'they can't think as fast as you'

Bovine says, 'in order to roll each bandage, I have to spam it 10 times currently'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'no..'

Kaige says, 'he means so you can't type roll 10*bandage'

Rush goes EEK! at Bovine in distress - isn't Bovine an awful person for teasing?

LadyAce says, 'oh :)'

LadyAce nods to herself.

Lorenzo says, 'is that on the bug list? :)'

Kaige says to Lorenzo, 'what bug?'

Bovine says, 'that you cant type roll 10* bandage and have it work'

Lorenzo shrugs helplessly.

Lorenzo says, 'I guess that was my question'

Lorenzo says, 'it's no big thing I spose, I can /repeat it, but the * action seems like a convenience more than a way to get something for nothing'

Kaige says, 'you can't type #* on anything that has a delay associated with it. not even directions.'

Lorenzo says, 'if I get locked into 7 rolls' worth of skill lag, I'm not gonna complain about it'

Rush says, 'can always clear'

Tobias says, 'if you want to cut down on spam, couldn't you just put them all on one line?'

Tobias says, 'or can you not delimit the commands either?'

LadyAce says, 'they delimit ok for me'

Bovine says, 'ok, so the general feeling is that rolling a bandage is fine as is then?'

Kaige says, 'it's spammy, but it's about as bad as peopel with their damn chalice triggers'

Kaige wrinkles her nose with distaste.

Tobias says, 'you could just buy shirts or somethin.'

LadyAce says, 'I agree that it feels slow, but disagree that it's a problem -- it's forced me to rethink my tactics a bit'

Rush nods her agreement with Kaige.

Rush says, 'no kidding'

LadyAce says, 'for a while I was putting make and roll into my pretyped sets of delimited commands'

LadyAce says, 'I stopped :)'

LadyAce says, 'at least in the fighting sets of commands'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'great thing to do when resting, for sure'

Suresh says, 'its not as bad as get the get chalice pouch, get skin pouch, fill chalice skin, drink chalice, put chalice pouch, put skin pouch people'

Rush giggles.

Tobias grimaces.

Tobias says, 'chalices are for wussies!'

Tobias ducks to the ground.

Rush says, 'just drinking he chalice isn't spammy'

Tobias says, 'real mages just destroy with sticks. Er, wait.'

Rush says, 'what makes people think they have to keep all their crap inna bag?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Suresh.

Kaige shudders.

Sandra nods her agreement with Rush.

Sandra says, 'I hate those damn spam chalice triggers. Makes me wanna kill people =P'

Rush comforts Suresh.

Rush throws her head back and cackles gleefully!

Rush hugs Sandra.

Sandra says, 'that and void triggers where they have to say something or do something other than just type look'

Sandra glares at nothing in particular.

Azeem says, 'well remove the chance of stealing chalices then i will remove my chalice bag trigger'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

Rush says to Azeem, 'why dun you just turn it off ooc??'

Sandra says, 'there's an EXTREMELY easy way to keep people from stealing it'

Tennessee says to Azeem, 'But I can, um, still steal your bag, eh?'

Tennessee winks suggestively at Azeem.

Azeem says, 'not really'

Rush says to Azeem, 'you are one of the worst offenders :P'

LadyAce says, 'it seems worth putting in as a bug/feature enhancement for later kinda thing (the multiplier not working with lagged stuff)'

Azeem says to Rush, 'ohh a little hostile are we'

Kaige says, 'no.. just truthful'

Kaige ducks to the ground.

Sandra says, 'EXTREMELY easy! So easy I could just shoot somebody!'

Rush says to Azeem, 'no, but i know if I am gonna be ooc for a minute i dun stay in the room if youa re there, it's that annoying'

Azeem says to Rush, 'do i got a chalice trigger on ?'

Rush laughs.

Delay Wrong on Some Skills?

Tennessee says, 'Okies, quick like and similar, actually, to skill lag questions...'

Tennessee says, 'It has to do with mending...see, mending has a tremendous skill lag...'

Tennessee says, 'And I understand that entirely'

Tennessee says, 'Mending takes time, etc.'

Tennessee says, 'However (and god help me for pointing this out), why is repair nearly instant if mend has so much skill lag?'

Sandra says, 'is it?'

Tennessee nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'bug it!'

Tennessee laughs.

Rush giggles at Tennessee.

Rush says, 'nice work buddy'

Rush smirks.

Tennessee says, 'I saw that coming.'

Tennessee sulks in the corner.

Tennessee says, 'Okies, I'm done. I got pizza!'

Tennessee gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Sandra giggles.

Make Bandage and Item Size?

Rush says, 'turbans'

Rush says, 'logically, how many bandages should a turban make?'

Sandra says, 'who's turban? ;)'

Tobias says, 'one SUPER bandage!'

Rush says, 'they make either 1 or 4'

LadyAce says, 'depends how huge it is'

Rush says, 'they should make 10, or 15 or something'

Suresh says, 'turbans are huge'

LadyAce says, 'some of those turbans are teeny, some look more like entire extra heads.'

Kaige says, 'we currently have a very limited range for basing how many bandages you get from what size item.'

Suresh says, 'the one from the sikhism school anyway'

Rush says, 'floppy hats used to make 10'

Rush says, 'couldn't turbans be made to be like that?'

Rush says, 'bolts of fabric too'

Kaige says, 'yeah.. we just need a couple different levels in the code to decide how many to make based on the size of the object that's defined by the builder.'

Kaige says, 'more than the 2 we currently have.'

Rush nods solemnly.

Rush says, 'so the 10 lvel thingy was taken out i guess?'

Kaige says, 'also logically, tailor should have to respect the size of the material with the size of the made object too'

Kaige says, 'no makes shirts from bandages and silly stuff like that'

Rush says, 'tailor is weird as hell'

Rush says, 'dun get me started on tailor'

Rush laughs.

Kaige giggles at Rush.

Tobias says, '...get her started!'

Rush says, 'they already heard it all like two weeks ago'

Rush snickers softly.

Rush says, 'what can i say'

Rush says, 'i get a new skill and play with it and have to have it changed to suit me'

Tobias grins evilly.

Moods & Socials?

Tobias says, 'What's the deal with this... mood-emote-stuff? Is there a way to control it per command?'

Rush nods her agreement with Tobias.

Rush says, '[mood] [command]'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Tobias.

LadyAce says, 'same as the says and enters from before'

Rush says, 'to do it on channels its: mood channel talk'

Tobias says, 'oh, neat.'

Tobias says, 'neat!'

Rush says, 'or mood channel emote person object'

Lorenzo cheers wildly!

LadyAce says, 'yup, pretty neat :)'

Lorenzo says to Tobias, 'try excited view social high5 :)'

Kaige says, 'just view s is easier'

Kaige giggles.

Shipbuilding & Lumberjacking

Lorenzo says, 'shipbuilding'

LadyAce chuckles politely.

Lorenzo says, 'so... why do I have to hold a particular pile of wood to make a boat? that seems to limit the utility a lot without really saving anything, administratively'

Sandra says, 'that's another skill I'd like to tear into'

Rush giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'it would be nice if the skill would let us chop trees & stuff, like make staff does'

Tobias says, 'we should make boatmaking and tanning and the like attack skills.'

Tobias nods to himself.

Lorenzo says, 'which is a great skill, btw'

Kaige says, 'that would be lumberjacking.'

Tobias throws his head back and cackles gleefully!

Kaige says the S word.

Sandra giggles.

LadyAce giggles.

Lorenzo says, 'and making a staff encompasses whittling, but it doesn't make anyone blink'

Kaige says, 'much smaller quantity of wood too'

LadyAce says, 'well, just having a few more ways to get the special wood item might ease things in the short term'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'a builder acts kinda thing, not so much a code thing'

LadyAce says, 'make a chop noncommand act, require the person have an axe....'

Lorenzo says, 'it's just sad to see what could be a really nice skill limited almost to uselessness by details...'

Lorenzo says, 'since it's implemented, not a hypothetical skill'

Lorenzo says, 'well, ok. i guess i'm done then.'

Sandra says, 'I would love to fiddle with shipbuilding. But I don't have time at the moment'

Lorenzo smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'maybe once I get more free time :)'

Rush cheers for Sandra - huzzah!

Lorenzo says, 'okay, i was just wondering whether there was any interest in it short of S*T*.'

Rush says, 'and more on tailor too right?'

Rush ducks to the ground.

Sandra says, 'well, there's not alot more we can do with tailor until we get more material types in'

LadyAce says, 'but tree chopping could go in anytime :)'

Rush says, 'just more types?'

Rush says, 'like skirts, blouses, etc'

LadyAce says, 'would be nice if shipbuilding could strip out the type of wood, like makestaff, tho'

Kaige says, 'yeah.. there's that whole forest out by Klein...'

Kaige nudges LadyAce.

LadyAce giggles at Kaige.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Lorenzo says, 'S*T* don't bother me as an obstacle for stuff that's just being imagined, but an extant skill feels more deserving of attention than imaginary ones'

Sandra says, 'I would say that shipbuilding could probably get raw wood, and then work on it some to make it shipbuildable. But I dunno about going out and cutting down trees for it'

Sandra says, 'those 2 bad words'

Kaige says, 'I'm not arguing, as long as I see it as a logical extension of the skill, which I don't'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'too bad the mill is a grain mill, could mill the lumber down :)'

Tobias says, 'oh, that'd be cool ^_~'

Rush cheers for Suresh - huzzah!

Lorenzo says, 'could distill the grain...'

Rush grins evilly at Lorenzo.. wonder what she's thinking...

Wineseller in Britain?

Rush says, 'theres this wineseller guy in roman britain'

Rush says, 'but he dun sell anything'

Rush says, 'and you can't take his wine'

Kaige says, 'ask him about it'

Rush says, 'am i missing something?'

Lorenzo says to Rush, 'he's a wholesaler I guess'

Lorenzo snickers softly.

LadyAce giggles.

Kaige shakes her head.

Rush says, 'i did'

Sandra says, 'he sells!'

Rush says, 'he keeps saying more stuff ... am i just not saying the right thing?'

Sandra says, 'ooh lag'

Kaige says, 'maybe'

Rush says, 'i try again'

Rush says, 'i was pissed last time'

Rush says, 'i think i killed him'

Rush says, 'still couldn't take his damn wine'

Kaige says, 'if you ask him about the types, he'll tell you how much. pay him. he'll give it to you.'

Rush says, 'oh huh i musta never got to how much'

Rush says, 'musta typed the wrong thing'

Rush thanks Kaige heartily.

New Weapons?

Tobias says, 'I heard someone say something about new weapons being implemented, and remember talks a while ago about that - did that ever come to light?'

LadyAce says, 'I think a few reshufflings and such have emerged with all the updates that've gone in'

LadyAce says, 'there wasn't really a wholesale 'new weapons push' or anything like that'

Tobias nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'I know I added a few last summer'

Kaige says, 'just cause the mobs needed something to make them a little tougher'

Kaige says, 'the mobs I put them on, not all in general'

LadyAce says, 'I made a new weapon, but no one's usin it'

LadyAce giggles.

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

Tobias laughs.

Tobias says, 'I guess I'll have to look up the welcome posts sometime and go a-huntin'.'

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'I just don't have the right kinda character! it's a nice weapon though!'

Lorenzo says, 'I envy it, I just can't use it'

Lorenzo sighs loudly.

Tobias says, 'I've always wondered what made BlackBeard's sword so renty, the stats and abilities don't seem to merit the huge cost.'

Lorenzo says, 'I want a weapon that sort of soaks up magical energy, that a mage can configure to cast any spell, but has the rent of a weapon that does twice the damage and a huge lag on reconfiguring it.'

Lorenzo muses idly.

Lorenzo says, 'well, not any'

Lorenzo giggles.

Tobias says, 'I forget what it's called. It's a perc sword.'

Suresh says, 'i'd like a couple of sheathes.'

Rush says, 'ohh'

Tobias says, 'Has a nifty effect that I haven't seen on a lot of weapons.'

Lorenzo says, 'but it'd be fun to attack people to cast detect hidden on 'em and stuff'

LadyAce says, 'maybe you answered your own question, then :)'

LadyAce winks suggestively at Tobias.

Tobias laughs.

LadyAce says, 'other questions out there? :)'

Why Stat Restriction on Mundanes?

Calista says, 'I got a quick question, actually. I q and a'ed it, because I thought I might forget it, but lo and behold, I remember...'

Calista says, 'It regards the help mundane file'

Calista says, 'I don't understand rule #1...'

Calista says, 'Actually, I don't understand the "why" behind rule #1'

Rush says, 'ohhh'

Rush says, 'good question'

LadyAce says, 'the idea behind mundanes is that people use them to make use of the items builders put out there that aren't high stat'

Calista looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'it's a use for items that normally wouldn't see the light of day except as bandages or things to be sold'

LadyAce says, 'a reason to explore, that sort of thing'

Calista says, 'Hrm...'

Calista says, 'Well, take the Paris Expansion, for instance...'

Rush says, 'can you write a coupon that is the same as an in game item?'

LadyAce says, 'the barrier against using them on high-stat or bonus'y type items is so that they can't be used to mislead people about what you're wearing'

Calista says, 'There's a whole heckuvalot of cool items on the mobs in there'

Calista says, 'some of them are +5 stat, though'

LadyAce says, 'if they're +5, no mundane'

Calista nods solemnly.

Calista says, 'But they're cool!'

Kaige says, 'so make something similar'

Kaige smiles at Calista.

Calista says, 'So, the answer is this: we can't mundane them because we want to force people to mundane other stuff'

Lorenzo says, 'oops.is +3 ok or not ok? I forget whether it's > or >= ...'

Suresh says, 'i so, so wanted to mundane the bow of godiva'

Suresh sniffles quietly.

LadyAce says, 'and because we don't want the coupons used to mislead people about what you're wearing'

Kaige quotes, '1. The mundane item cannot have a stat bonus higher than +1 or +2'

Kaige says, 'so that'd be >2'

Calista looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'or selling, for that matter'

Lorenzo nods solemnly.

Rush says, 'so you can't make items identical to in game?'

Lorenzo says, 'ok, i guess I meant < or <='

Rush peers around intently.

Rush says, 'anyone?'

Calista laughs.

LadyAce says, 'you can't make strings that are identical to game items except with a mundane coupon on a low-stat item'

Calista looks up into the sky and ponders.

Rush says, 'what if its an item that no longer exists'

Rush says, 'can i get a coupon and string a rusty knife to a small black mug?'

Azeem says, 'sure you can'

Azeem rolls his eyes heavenward.

Rush says to Azeem, 'hush'

Calista looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says, 'I suppose that'd be ok.'

Rush says, 'i was just having this discussion ... with ... a person who no longer plays here :P'

LadyAce says, 'we steer people away from the old equipment that's high stat and all that, but it's not exactly easy to keep track of it, either.'

Rush says, 'what about like, stringing those ugly boots to starseeds?'

Rush says, 'oj you already answered'

Kaige says, 'I dunno..there's lots of small black mugs in the game still... just not in the database'

Rush nods solemnly.

Sandra says, 'You have to be special to have my name on your boots!'

Rush giggles at Sandra.

Rush says, 'i dted mine'

Kaige says, 'would make a false market for "the genuine article"'

Rush sobs quietly to herself.

Kaige comforts Rush.

Calista says, 'So, we don't mundane those items because we want to encourage the use of other items and we don't want to mislead people'

Calista raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

LadyAce says, 'true...but the prospect of keeping track of items which aren't in the db seems untenable'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Calista.

Calista looks up into the sky and ponders.

Lorenzo says to Calista, 'by golly, I think someone's taken over your mouth!'

Kaige just uses where instead of find.

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Calista giggles.

Calista says to Lorenzo, 'Me..no..control...'

Calista goes ACK TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPTTTTTT!

Lorenzo giggles.

Rush looks confused.

Calista says, 'Actually, I don't understand...'

Calista says, 'I mean..'

Rush says, 'i always feel like i have missed something'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'providing the item is in housing and all that...but it seems like it's much more likely to change day to day, using where I mean'

Calista says, 'Isn't a full set of stung eq just as misleading as a full set of mundane strung eq...'

Calista says, 'You still don't know what they have on'

Calista says, 'Strung, even'

LadyAce says, 'if it's strung, you don't know. if it's strung to look like what it isn't, you think you know, but you're wrong'

LadyAce pats Lorenzo on the head.

Calista says to LadyAce, 'what's the tactical advantage?'

Calista looks up into the sky and ponders.

Calista says, 'Make that strategic advantage...'

LadyAce says, '"oh wait, no use using 'tactic X' on that person, they're wearing 'gear X'"'

Calista peers at herself myopically.

Rush says, 'is there a tactical advantage to stringing?'

Calista says to Rush, 'apparently there could be'

LadyAce says, 'many pkers think so....'

Kaige says, 'makes it harder to cheat newbies out of hard earned cash, by stringing a newbie dagger as a katar and proving what you're selling on auction and all'

Lorenzo says to Calista, 'they'll never know you flamestrike!'

Calista says, 'really?'

LadyAce says, 'they'll restring their eq to anything at all, just to get it hidden'

Calista says to Kaige, 'well that's just bad form'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

Kaige nods her agreement with Calista.

LadyAce says, 'but we'd rather not encourage it'

Calista says, 'My problem is this:'

Kaige says, 'yup, and one we decided to take an active role in preventing'

Rush says, 'people actually used coupons to cheat people?'

LadyAce says, 'especially not with a coupon whose whole idea is to encourage use of under-used or never-used items'

Rush says, 'wouldn't they get more from selling the coupon?'

Kaige says to Rush, 'you're telling me they wouldn't?'

Kaige peers at Rush, looking her up and down.

Lorenzo says to Kaige, 'that's just malicious. the mundane sells for more than a katar'

Calista says, 'There are tons of underused items that have reeeeeal cool looks to 'em'

Kaige says, 'yup.'

Calista says, 'For instance, the six-string guitar, or poetic justice'

Calista says, 'I mean, that's just neato!'

Kaige says, 'and because they're not listed on LegendDB a lot of folks have probably never seen 'em'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Kaige's head.

Calista laughs.

Calista says, 'Exactly'

Rush rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Rush says, 'hey!'

Kaige says, 'yes, a generalization and exaggeration, but...'

Calista says, 'My point is that since they have stats...I can't mundane them'

Rush says, 'i like the db for some stuff'

Calista says, 'And that stinky!'

LadyAce says, 'well, there's an awful lot of items that don't have all those stats which are unlikely to be part of anybody's eq set at all'

LadyAce says, 'items that might very well be part of someone's eq set aren't the sort of items we're trying to encourage people to pay attention to. they'll do that on their own'

Calista says, 'But...but...what if your RP NEEDS that item!'

Calista faints.

LadyAce says, 'make one that's mostly the same :)'

Calista giggles at LadyAce.

Calista says to LadyAce, 'Okies, I understand. I'm just making a stink cause I wanted to hang out more'

Kaige is gonna have to go deal with the munchkin here.

Calista smiles at Kaige.

Rush comforts Kaige.

Ea! waves happily.

Azeem waves happily.

Sandra giggles.

Calista waves happily.

Rush laughs.

Rush waves happily.

Sandra giggles.

Kaige gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

Kaige waves happily.

LadyAce hugs Sandra.

Sandra waves happily.

Additional Topics Answered

Also, some of the builders will often have some feedback on suggestions and typos that get reported with some of their reasoning for why things are the way they are or won't be incorporated into the areas.

General Suggestions/Questions

o Can we have a new option for redeems? Like 3 redeem get you a post-titles, hehe, like pretitle and stuff?

Post-titles are meant to be changed through in-game interactions and quests. It is unlikely they will be a redeem option.

o What is this, "You quietly talk to yourself." stuff?

Somehow you invoked the TALK or SAY commands that directed one of your own keywords, or an abbreviation for them somehow. Possibly you tried to answer a question with something like:

        SAY TO <MYNAME OR KEYWORD> ....

which would be interpreted by the code as you directing it to yourself.

o Tag the bar drinks at the Wild Board Tavern, so we can give them to other players. What's the sense in letting us buy drinks but not give them away? How can we "pick someone up"? this...

Since you can't give things to other players in the OOC as it is,... Paul was given acts for this exact thing several years ago. If you ask him 'help', he replies with the following:

        Would you like to know how to buy things for people? Here's what you
        do: simply say who you want to buy for, the item you want to buy from
        my list, followed by 'on me', 'from me', 'on my bill', or 'on my tab'.
        I'll give the item to them and charge you out of the money you have
        with you.

So, if Bubba wants to buy Buffy a beer, he'd type this:

        ASK PAUL BUFFY BEER ON ME

o It would be cool if there was a way to force charmies to give a status report.

You mean like you get when you use the STATUS command, right? It probably won't be that straight forward because there are several skills and spells already available that give you that kind of information about other characters. If you find there are affects that you cannot tell that they're affected by through use of what's already available, please submit a bug/idea report about it so it can be addressed.

o I would like to see a general message that is area specific for those sitting in the area only when there is a general repop of mobs, if there is such a thing.

There isn't any such thing. While some areas tend to have large sets of mobs/items repop around the same time, many of the mobs on the mud have their own unique repop that is based on when they were killed.

o I'd like to formally kill the rumor that if you hit 125 mill, get the redeem point, lose xp, and hit it again, you get extra redeem points. You don't. Myth.

Thanks!

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