June 14th, 2001

How Do Snowballs Work?

McDougan says, 'May I ashk the firsht queshtion'

McDougan says, 'Item actsh aren't in. Sae how do shnowballsh work?'

LadyAce says, 'they're a special type of object'

Kaige says, 'special code for a specific type of object'

McDougan says, 'Would that be ushable with anything elshe?'

McDougan says, 'that sort o' thing I mean'

Kaige says, 'only if you wanted it to just do this and nothing else'

A water balloon hits McDougan's arm and splatters everywhere!

LadyAce says, 'every single object would need a big bunch of code for it -- it can't be abstracted into an item acts implementation, if that's what you mean'

Emrysia cheers for Kaige - huzzah!

McDougan whimpers softly.

Kaige says, 'not very useful in the long run, I think'

Kaige says, 'except for snowballs and things that would do that.'

McDougan says to Kaige, 'I ne'er knew ye were evil'

McDougan whimpers softly.

Kaige laughs with amusement.

Kaige says to McDougan, 'and HOW long have you been here?'

Kaige giggles.

McDougan says, 'aboot foor, fibe yeersh'

McDougan throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

Overrent Policy

Edric_Wulf says, 'okay, my comment is about the current over rent policy. I have to say, that I do not like the currert policy and i was wondering if it was ever going to be changed?'

Sandra says, 'I don't see what needs changed about it. It's simple - don't go over rent'

Edric_Wulf says, 'since this world is being cursed with crashes left and right'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think we're looking to change that policy right now, no'

McDougan says, 'I believe I have made my thochtsh rather clear on thish.'

LadyAce says, 'you should never be over rent. I know the crashes suck, but all they do is keep you from being able to get away with something you shouldn't do anyway'

Edric_Wulf says, 'well, it makes it difficult to do anything with what ye have, if you pick up a ring that you want, and the mud crashes, boom, there goes everything'

LadyAce says, 'drop something, have a friend with rent hold it, etc.'

Edric_Wulf says, 'well, as with me, it happened as soon as I picked up an item, very bad luck really'

LadyAce says, '99% of the time, if you make sure that a 'good save' is on record, you'll be ok, but the risk is still there.'

Edric_Wulf says, 'I just think that as with DT's, your strings at least should remain'

McDougan says, 'Why not jusht make ye hev one autoshave leeway, but OONLY gif it crashesh?'

LadyAce says, 'the string saving was already a really large concession and act of mercy from the imms....I don't think we're going to go further down that road than we already have'

Edric_Wulf says, 'hmm, that is unfortunate really'

McDougan says, 'perhapsh one autoshave, but oonly gif it crashesh wi'in, shay, fivbe minutesh'

Edric_Wulf says, 'you work hard and one little mistake and everything is gone'

Strike says, 'They're hard to get unless your rich and there hard to keep unless you archive Hmmmm'

McDougan says to LadyAce, 'I musht agree, why not shave shtringsh alwaysh?'

Kaige says, 'McDougan just asking about having a one save leeway... and the answer to that was the reason we don't save any of the objects on a failed save is to eliminate many of the problems of object duping that doing just that creates'

Sandra says, 'why not just stay under rent then you won't have to worry?'

Strike says, 'sometimes Overrent cant be helped'

LadyAce says, 'it can always be helped...'

Sandra says, 'sure it can'

LadyAce says, 'it's your choice to take the risk'

Edric_Wulf says, 'well, we try to stay under rent, I know that I do, but if you want to exchange something or do some work with your gear'

Strike says, 'I picked up something to sell at the merchant and the game crashed and I lost everything'

Edric_Wulf says, 'sometimes you just want to pick up one thing and remove another and drop it'

LadyAce says, 'if I were you, I'd drop some item that you have which you don't care a lot about.'

Ea! says, 'Here's part of the problem. Say we remove that restriction. What's to stop players from entirely ignoring rent and writing a script so they never autorent?'

Strike says, 'It crashed as soon as I picked it up'

Emrysia says, 'sometimes you don't realise you are over rent either.. At least I don't... I've just been fortunate there wasn't a crash when I've picked up one too many herb'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'and guaranteeing they don't have to lose old equipment'

LadyAce says, 'you should type save after you pick up stuff.'

Ea! says, 'Suddenly, rent looses it's important role in the balance of the mud. Those players with such scripts can ignore it entirely.'

LadyAce says, 'if you can't remember, make a trigger.'

McDougan says to Ea!, 'On the other hand, what'sh to make them not jusht have a drop item shave shcript upo failed autoshave?'

Strike says, 'for a druid thats too much spam'

Emrysia shrugs philosophically.

Ea! says to McDougan, 'there's a time period that they're still at risk. '

Emrysia says, 'my theory is there's risk in everything - live with it.. it's only a game'

McDougan says to Ea!, 'What I think would be guid ish if you jusht checked all failed autoshavesh that happened within, shay, two minutesh of a crash'

Strike says, 'and everytime you do get stuff from your corpse thats aloota saves aint that laggy right there'

McDougan says, 'ignored thoshe and thoshe only'

Edric_Wulf nods solemnly.

McDougan says, 'shtill the rishk that your thingamabob - coom-poo-trrr blowsh up joosht efter ye picked up that shkull shtaff'

Edric_Wulf says, 'well, I do not agree, but that is my opion and I will leave it at that'

Strike says, 'And what about me How do I make money without going over rent I cant make a doopple'

Edric_Wulf bows deeply.

Edric_Wulf says, 'good eve to ye'

Kaige says, 'which leads to multiple people trading off an item to both have saves and duping it for crashes...'

Kaige says to Strike, 'group up with someone else, split the rent space and profits?'

McDougan says, 'Dunnae every item have a unique number anyway?'

Kaige shakes her head.

LadyAce says, 'or you could stay a bit underrent, leave stuff in a house, etc.'

McDougan says, 'anyway, you could do that noo!'

Kaige says, 'not persistent across crashes'

Kaige nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Strike says, 'right now at a young level whos got extra rent'

McDougan says, 'jusht hev twa people rading cooponsh'

LadyAce says, 'the carts in the game are supposed to be helpful with that but the implementation we have of them is still a bit rough'

Strike says, 'fix em top priority :P'

Emrysia says, 'carts? I've never even seen a cart (that I know of)'

Strike panics, and attempts to flee.

Emrysia giggles.

Strike says, 'halt skilltrees fix carts'

Strike nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

LadyAce says, 'first we'd have to be rolling on trees :)'

What is a Critical Hit?

Dashiva says, 'in combat, you get a message somtimes that you wound a mob with your critical hit, whats that mean, exactly?'

LadyAce says, 'it means you did some extra damage'

Dashiva says, 'can you tell me how much?'

Ea! says, 'Nope.'

McDougan grins evilly.

Nietzsche frowns.

Dashiva says, 'can I guess and you nod or shake your head?'

Dashiva snickers softly.

Ea! says, 'Imm code of conduct and all that...'

Dashiva says, 'yea yea'

Strike peers at Ea!, looking him up and down.

Dashiva says, 'hide the numbers, I know'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'doesn't also depend on the damage that's done, so we couldn't say exactly if we wanted to?'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'I can't remember.'

Removing Someone From Group?

Strike says, 'Is there a way to get this slave outta my group without renting out or finding him'

LadyAce says, 'ditch him :)'

Dashiva says, 'ditch'

Strike says, 'cant unless same room'

Strike whaps himself across the back of the head!

Double Stun Messages & Shoot?

Strike says, 'and what about the douple stun message when you shoot someone'

Ea! says, 'I thought we fixed the double stun message on shoot -- have you seen it recently?'

Seeing People Riding?

McDougan says, 'Can what ye shee when shomeone ish riding in the room.. well.. actually mek it look like they're riding?'

LadyAce says, 'known bug, I believe'

Gondar shakes his head.

McDougan says, 'when will it be fixit?'

LadyAce says, 'oh, I'm wrong'

LadyAce says, 'the standing in a room thing is different, I'm thinking of the oddities on enter/exit and groupboats'

McDougan says to Ea!, 'get te work'

McDougan says, 'all you see is the normal shtanding, and the animal'

McDougan says, 'Verra inconvenient'

LadyAce says, 'Ea says we decided not to do the 'is riding a blah horse here' thing'

Ea! nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce says, 'I'm not remembering deciding that....but....'

Dashiva says, 'you should have that'

Ea! says, 'Since it would over ride the long description and we didn't want to override longs.'

Dashiva says, 'ah'

McDougan says to Ea!, 'why not do the riding?'

LadyAce says, 'doesn't sound so bad to me....'

Kaige says, 'we do it for vehicles'

LadyAce says, 'it could use shorts'

Gondar nods his agreement with LadyAce.

McDougan says, 'HOW ARE YE shupposhed to kniow if shomeone ish riding, exactly?'

Kaige says, 'makes a big difference if they're riding and use warcry or they're not'

McDougan says, 'remember - if ye attack a mount, the rider will ashisht.'

Kaige says, 'might make a big difference on if you want to try or not too'

Kaige nods her agreement with McDougan.

LadyAce says, 'fun way to get people to attack you, then they realize you're riding an invisible elephant'

McDougan says, 'Which meansh that horshe ye want tae attack may be protechted by that nashty mob, or may not!'

McDougan rolls his eyes, exasperated with Ea!.

Any Progress on Crashes?

Strike says, 'Ive noticed a lot less lag but not a lot less crashes lately'

Strike says, 'just wondering if were getting closer to the truth'

LadyAce says, 'yea, we have a bug that we haven't figured out yet....'

Strike nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

LadyAce says, 'Rufus has been really running the code through the wringer, still nothing'

LadyAce says, 'a few possible leads in the vehicle code...'

Gondar goes ACK TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPTTTTTT!

Strike says, 'I told ya Try Raid it gets the bugs out'

Strike ducks to the ground.

Kaige says, 'yeah,. but doesn't do much good on dholes... they're more persistent'

LadyAce says, 'dholes must be tracked, trapped, and poisoned.'

Strike nods solemnly.

Strike giggles.

Kaige says, 'and then beaten into submission'

LadyAce says to Kaige, 'or really deeply buried'

Why Dex Requirement for Rage?

Gondar says, 'how come there's a dex req for rage?'

Ea! says, 'It takes some dexterity to be that angry and not trip and fall down.'

Ea! says, 'Not a lot, but some.'

Gondar says, 'well, whatever it is, its too high'

Gondar chuckles politely.

Kaige snorts derisively.

Gondar says, 'I got 72str and 93con, and I cant friggin rage!'

Gondar snarls angrily.

Herra says to Gondar, 'are too big'

Kaige says, 'it's below what we consider "average"'

Gondar says, 'even a clumsy person can get pissed'

Gondar chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'but does it make them a better fighter?'

Herra says, 'hehehe'

Kaige says, 'sure.. but they're not going to necessarily do extra damage with it when they can't control their body'

Herra snickers at LadyAce nastily.

Ea! says, 'and it's funny to watch clumsy pissed people, because they trip all over themselves.'

Why Don't All Quests Have WHOIS?

McDougan says, 'Why dunna (quesht in klienshtadt) have a whoish, when (quesht in nottingham) doesh.) Malta hashony queshtsh, sae perhapsh ye cannae gie whoishesh for all, but.'

LadyAce says, 'whoises are basically there if a builder puts them in as the reward.'

LadyAce says, 'it's not controlled centrally, there's no standard for difficulty vs reward for quests other than "seems fair"'

McDougan says to LadyAce, 'aye, but they changed.... '

LadyAce says, 'the answer is what I said before...it's not there because no one put it there :P'

LadyAce says, 'there isn't a deeper answer'

Why Limits on Cause Charms?

XXX says, 'we cause-mages got a limit on charmed mobs. Hmm ok i see there should be a limit, but why couldnt it be a bit higher. now we have 1 charmie for 10min ... so we have a max of 10 charmies.'

XXX says, 'since i always loved to have many (40-50) of them *scuffle* wouldn't it be possible to make a slight change to 1charmie per 5mind ...'

XXX says, 'or to meet in the middle why not 1 charmie per 7.5mind'

XXX says, 'not all of us have 100mind so not all of use could have 10'

XXX waves his lousy 60mind

Herra waves her 90 mind

Wes has 61 mind but is create :P

XXX kisses Herra tenderly.

Herra kisses XXX tenderly.

XXX says, 'and on the contrary the creates doesnt seem to have a limit'

Sandra says, 'I think that the limit on cause mage charmies is ok as it is. Since the cause school isn't really one that *needs* them'

XXX says, 'nor would that change their immense powers'

Sandra says, 'that's my opinion tho'

Chunk nods his agreement with Sandra.

XXX says, 'umm but you know that the create school is a lot more powerful than the cause school .. especially now'

Sandra says, 'not really'

LadyAce says, 'a lot of create mages would disagree there :)'

Chunk says, 'with the big areas without det illusion it is =p'

XXX says, 'of course i have to agree that i never played PKill'

Sandra says, 'I think they each have their good and bad sides'

XXX says, 'but i have a concreate (Andrea) with 870hp and 722mana her group of charmed beeings she can take out nearly any mob'

XXX says, 'a cause couldnt do that wihtout other peoples help'

Sandra'd have to disagree.

Strike has seen Andrea Kill some Mighty big things

Chunk snorts derisively.

Chunk shrugs in response to Strike's words.

LadyAce says, 'well...I don't think we are up for making the change you want.'

XXX says, 'its not that i would wish to get changes done .. i accept the the system as it is .. i just wonder about the reasons'

LadyAce says, 'generally because creates are meant to rely on charmies moer than causes are'

XXX shrugs helplessly.

XXX nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'causes do mostly damage with direct spells, and creates use their agents'

LadyAce shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce smiles at XXX.

Rules Clarification

Chunk says, 'question is about a rule that i would like to be said a bit clearer'

Chunk says, 'you may have heard already about the sl going on atm so ill make it brief'

Chunk says, 'now is it legal for someone to get an agg mob to attack a group by means of fleeing from them then running away'

Chunk says, 'also is it then legal to lock them inside without a way of escaping?'

LadyAce says, 'that doesn't sound legal, no. A complaint has already been filed and is being investigated as we speak.'

Chunk nods solemnly.

Chunk says, 'was just making sure it was against the rules more than likely'

Chunk says, 'im always foggy with those rules because of pk and sometimes pk can be legal and whatnot'

McDougan says, 'I alwaysh thocht the rulesh here were if ye figger ota a way tae kill shomeone who wuid not be keelit otherwishe, yer breekin the rule'

McDougan says, 'unlesh yer pkill'

Chunk says, 'yeah the pkill factor has always made me think hard about which was ok and which werent hehe'

Aztecs & Updates in AreaInfo

McDougan says, 'My queshtion ish aboot aztecsh'

McDougan says, 'Verra few people enter there. I have heard there ish a rarely known quesht there, but anyway,'

McDougan says, 'why not do major updatesh there?'

McDougan says, 'inshtead of hometownsh only?'

Kaige says, 'I'm not doing hometowns only'

LadyAce says, 'I'm not sure what you mean...'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'she updates aztecs regularly. visit, comment, etc.'

McDougan says, 'Well, ish area info shaysh it hash nae changed shinsh nineteen ninetchy four!'

Kaige says, 'no.. that's when it was put into the game'

Kaige tickles McDougan.

LadyAce says, 'first published date is not 'last update''

McDougan says, 'oh.'

McDougan says, 'I thocht major updatesh were alsho lishted?'

LadyAce says, 'sounds like a suggestion -- put that in on idea?'

McDougan says, 'which part?'

LadyAce says, 'for kaige to put the 'last update' date in areainfo in aztecs, and heck maybe everyone should do that.'

Druid Appreciation Day

Manitu says, 'Ok, Can you tell me about the druid day coming up please?'

Manitu says, 'Is that when Kaige had mentioned new herbs and everything maybe?'

Manitu beams delightedly.

Kaige won't have new herb stuff done by then.

Kaige sighs loudly.

Manitu says, 'dang!'

Kaige doesn't think that focus on building and focus on code stuff mix well for her.

Manitu giggles.

Emrysia smiles happily.

Herra giggles at Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'the druid day was originally a small thing but it looks like the Institute is going to get into the act and we'll have a nice event'

Manitu says, 'oh?'

LadyAce says, 'they put some things on news about what they're doing'

Emrysia smiles happily.

Manitu says, 'I better contact them then'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Manitu smiles at Emrysia.

Manitu says to Emrysia, 'fill me in!'

Emrysia smiles at Manitu.

Manitu tugs on Emrysia's sleeve imploringly.

Emrysia points to the news board.

Emrysia giggles.

Manitu says to Emrysia, 'Count me in for making things and having a fun party!'

LadyAce says, 'anything else I can do for y'all?'

LadyAce smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'okie, I guess that's it for the evening.'

LadyAce says, 'take care, everyone :)'

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