April 12th, 2001

Charms & Targetting?

LadyAce says, 'Ok, so, who has a question?'

LadyAce points at Semirhage.

LadyAce says, 'what's your next question? :)' Semirhage says, 'is there any chance this weird ass charmy thing I've seen can be changed or fixed or addressed even'

Sandra raises an eyebrow inquiringly.

Henna says, 'open for questions now?'

LadyAce says, 'can you be more specific about "weird ass"?'

Semirhage says, 'the thing where I have 4 fully agg charmies hitting something'

Jereia laughs with amusement.

Semirhage says, 'hehe, sorry, was trying to figure out how to word it right'

Semirhage says, 'and one dies'

Semirhage says, 'and it hits me'Semirhage says, 'it has to do with prio or something'

Semirhage says, 'I don't know'

Semirhage says, 'it wouldn't be so bad, but creates can't heal, thus the purpose of charmies'

Semirhage says, 'so being hit everytime a charmy dies REALLY sucks'

Semirhage says, 'it doesn't happen all the time'

Semirhage says, 'I don't know what causes it, I figure its some prio thing'

LadyAce says, 'you & 4 charmies attack, mob turns to attack you each time they die?'

Semirhage nods solemnly.

Semirhage says, 'I'm told it hits the first person to hit it'

Semirhage says, 'but theres no way to change where you hit on the list as far as I know'

LadyAce says, 'is wary/agg playing a role?'

Semirhage says, 'I've tried fleeing and reengaging'

Semirhage says, 'no'

Semirhage says, 'okay :P'

Semirhage says, 'heres an example'

LadyAce says, 'is it only particular mobs?'

Semirhage says, 'lets say I'm fighting jim southland'

Semirhage shakes her head.

Semirhage says, '4 homunculi are 3 agg'

Semirhage says, 'I'm 0'

Semirhage says, 'they attack'

Semirhage says, 'I kick or something'

Semirhage says, 'one dies'

Semirhage says, 'and the next round I get hit'

LadyAce says, 'hm, i wonder if it's a keyword thing.'

Semirhage says, 'ane everytime a charmy dies, I get hit the next round'

LadyAce says, 'if you attack with 4 charmies with different keys, does it happen?'

Semirhage chuckles politely at Mikhail's feeble witticism.

Semirhage says, 'I don't have bigger tanks'

Jereia says, 'that doesn't happen to me'

Kae says, 'odd, that never happens to me'

Semirhage says, 'it happens occasionally'

Sandra says, 'I"ve had it happen sometimes'

Semirhage says, 'its not super common'

Myrella nods her agreement with Sandra.

Semirhage says, 'but when it happens you notice and cry :P'

LadyAce says, 'I'm not sure it's a bug so much as a risk when you fight with charmies...'

Semirhage says, 'well'

Jereia says, 'sometimes they turn on me, but if I flee and come back into the room they'll usually just focus on my charmies'

Semirhage says, 'heres why I don't think its very fair'

Kae nods her agreement with Jereia.

Lorenzo says, 'I wouldn't consider that a bug, personally. I rather like smart mobs.'

Semirhage says, 'you've inherently made creates shitty tanks'

Semirhage says, 'and most charmies don't do hardly any tanks'

Semirhage says, 'so all they DO is tank'

Semirhage says, 'therefore if they aren't tanking, whats the point of being create?'

LadyAce says, 'I think that it's random ... and sometimes the dice come up triple 7s and sometimes triple blueberries or something'

Semirhage says, 'hm...I don't'

Mikhail says to Semirhage, 'having every cause beg you for preserve?'

Semirhage says, 'I guess I'll keep testing it'

Sandra says, 'mm blueberries'

Kaige says, 'I hate when it comes up triple dholes.'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Jereia giggles at Mikhail.

Semirhage says, 'huginn said he'd look at it, I just wondered if you had any ideas'

Semirhage pets Huginn lovingly.

LadyAce says, 'if there's a particular pattern to it, like a mob that it happens consistently, we can look at it'

Semirhage says, 'I think its prio'

Semirhage says, 'but I don't know'

Huginn says, 'we talking about the attack thing?'

Semirhage nods solemnly.

Sandra nods her agreement with Huginn.

Mikhail says to Semirhage, 'maybe have an imm watch you have a fight when they have time'

Semirhage says, 'the sucky attack thing'

LadyAce says to Huginn, 'just finished, unless you've been enlightened.'

Semirhage says, 'I did'

Semirhage says, 'huginn watched me die'

Semirhage chuckles politely.

Huginn shakes his head.

XPlay & Warnings

Henna says to LadyAce, 'gotta question here about xplay.'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Henna.

Henna says to LadyAce, 'I know of a person who has an imm alt and they were with their character at the time, but is it considered xplay if they alt to the imm and give out warnings?'

Kaige says, 'she didn't.'

LadyAce says, 'no, it's not against the rules to alt out to give a warning.'

Henna shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'a broken rule is a broken rule.'

Mikhail says, 'aren't imms allowed to be on in two windows with 1 mort and imm'

Henna says, 'nothing like a double standard, I guess. Thanks for answering that'

Kae nods her agreement with Mikhail.

Sandra nods her agreement with Mikhail.

Ryan laughs with amusement.

Semirhage snickers softly.

Sandra says, 'well, if I could have warned her with my mort, I woulda'

Mikhail says, 'musta been the warned char :)'

Kae says, 'probably smartest not to DESERVE warnings'

Semirhage tickles Kae.

Kaige says to Sandra, 'so would have a bunch of other people'

LadyAce says, 'well, I wouldn't consider it a double standard, but since she didn't stick around, I won't make the argument.'

Sandra nods her agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'unless one of y'all is also curious about the consistency there.'

Rosaline says, 'I don't think Mortal rules apply to imms so much in that way, If an imm is working on something that doesn't need constant attention I don't see any reason why that Imm can't be playing a mort as well....'

Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'it is all in the imm help files'

Kae says to LadyAce, 'well, if there are any cases in which an imm should refrain from warning, I am curious :)'

Sabu snickers softly.

Semirhage says, 'an imm can play a mort/imm'

Sabu nods his agreement with Semirhage.

Semirhage says, 'it used to be illegal to play a pkiller at the same time'

Semirhage says, 'but I think that changed with pkok'

Mikhail nods his agreement with Semirhage.

Kae says to Semirhage, 'yeah'

Kaige says to Kae, 'if it's you're mort who's being harassed, try to get another imm to deal with it instead.'

Sabu says, 'and i would prefer if they have to alt do to so.. =p'

Myrella says to Kae, 'you should refrain from warning when its yourself thats breaking the rules'

Myrella giggles.

Kae says to Kaige, 'okay, apart from the inherently obvious scenario you describe'

LadyAce says, 'since imms are OOC, the only time you stop being responsible for our rules are when you're asleep.'

Kae says to Myrella, 'wow, really? Dang.'

Myrella says to Kae, 'not sayin that you do mind you'

LadyAce says, 'our OOC selves are always present.'

Myrella grins evilly at Kae.. wonder what she's thinking...

Mikhail says to Kae, 'or warn yourself :)'

Kae says to Mikhail, 'hey, I did that once I made a mistake :)'

Mikhail says to Kae, 'and with warns logged...everyone knew it too :)'

LadyAce says, 'xplay applies to IC behavior, essentially, and is rude because of the illusion of characters being distinct -- that illusion is a part of the game which we value, and it's rude to disrupt it.'

Kae says to Mikhail, 'well, there's no point in the warning system if its not broadcast to the admin dept'

Rosaline says, 'so can you log on two mort but have one ooc?'

Rosaline ducks to the ground.

Kae says, 'no'

LadyAce chuckles politely.

Rosaline sticks her tongue out at everyone! =P

Kae says, 'not even imms get to play two morts at once'

LadyAce says, 'having a mort in the ooc is not the same as morts being ooc.'

LadyAce says, 'the OOC'ness for imms is not a location or condition, but rather an essential trait.'

Mikhail says, 'I must say, not near as much imm cheating as the old days :)'

Kae says to Mikhail, '"near as much..."?'

Mikhail winks suggestively at Kae.

LadyAce says, 'well, if there's cheating, it should be reported, and it shouldn't be accused without evidence.'

Mikhail says, 'I am not accusing, I just assume some bending of rules happens...you are all human :)'

Group vs a "beckon" social

Sabu says to Ea!, 'bah should just have a new social called beckon to beckon ppl to follow you like i idead =p'

Rosaline nods her agreement with Sabu.

Rosaline says, 'a beckon social would work well for me'

Rosaline points at her long.

Sabu giggles.

Kaige says, 'well now if we want a beckon social we can have one too, and it doesn't have to say, beckons you to follow'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Rosaline beckons you to her.

Haley giggles at Rosaline.

Rosaline giggles.

Guests & Multiplaying?

Myrella says, 'is it considered multiplaying if your on as a guest lose link an relog as another guest?'

Semirhage goes EEK! at Rosaline in distress - isn't Rosaline an awful person for teasing?

LadyAce shakes her head.

LadyAce says, 'you can't reconnect to the guest.'

LadyAce says, 'but if you spam us with guests, we will get annoyed'

Myrella says, 'well that's what i noticed, I use telnet from sometimes to read the boards and it has a crappy link'

Myrella shrugs philosophically.

Tick Timers?

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'you mentioned tick timers going in.. elaborate?'

Sabu says to Sandra, 'bah that one dont count im talking more =p'

Sandra giggles.

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'mainly like the ones i posted as an idea ;) being thought of? looked at even tho its spammy?'

LadyAce says, 'I think that timers are an example of a code change which we're receptive to. There are some interesting threads on discussion, but I haven't read yours.'

Sabu says, 'bah nobody has!'

Kaige read it.

Sabu says, 'and mainly because its long =p'

LadyAce says, 'at this point I've seen the 'AAs forced to accept all other AAs' suggestion SO MANY TIMES my brain goes into meltdown when I see it.'

Mikhail says to Sabu, 'I read first half :)'

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'i said that was bad and said why'

LadyAce says, 'I don't try to do that, but I do. So if that's in there I start to drool a little.'

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'you didnt continue reading ;)'

LadyAce says, 'could very well be. I'm a demanding audience.'

Match says, 'wait.. anyone know what kind of mage frost bolt ll be for?? create right?'

Semirhage says, 'we'll see'

Match nods solemnly.

Sabu says to Kaige, 'so what did you think? any good ones you liked?'

Lorenzo chuckles politely.

Jereia says, 'I have a question'

Sabu tried to find the ppl that have read his post..

Sabu says, 'tries even'

Sabu snickers softly.

Kaige says, 'it was kinda hard to digest, I'd have to read it again... it kinda all ran together, where length didn't bother me'

Jereia nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Mikhail says to Sabu, 'ready part 1 :) skimmed part 2 :)'

Sabu nods his agreement with Kaige.

Myrella says to Sabu, 'I read it, and it was too long and confusing'

LadyAce says, 'I will try to read it and append some comments. It was all so compacted I figured I'd go back to it later or something'

Sabu giggles.

Sabu says, 'my space bar wasnt very friendly that night'

Sabu scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Sabu takes that back.. meant keyboard in general.

Cesare's Ring

Myrella says, 'Hmm can we get Cesare to repop with his ring a bit more? I getting real tired of killing him'

LadyAce says, 'you can suggest that to Leila with idea...'

LadyAce says, 'or maybe there's a way to make it work more consistently, I don't know.'

Fish Pies Banned?

Match says, 'so is this a conference of some sort.. a q and a period?'

LadyAce says, 'yeah, kinda like that'

Match says, 'im just sorta confuesed'

Kae says to Match, 'yeah, your chance to ask us questions you had over the last week :)'

LadyAce says, 'a weekly time for questions and answers and suggestions and arguments'

LadyAce says, 'I try to keep things orderly but they sometimes get a bit tangled.'

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'and badgering! Don't forget badgering.'

LadyAce says, 'ask your question, the first one didn't count.'

Match says, 'why were fish pies **banned** well. not banned but you get it!'

Kaige says to Match, 'just a small bug... '

Match says, 'ah!'

Match says, 'excellent!'

Kaige says, 'you should also be able to bake other kinds of pies if builders allow it'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Kaige.

LadyAce says, 'pies pies pies'

Match thinks of the dinners he has had and will have, made of flounder, **drool**

Kaige bakes a nice ripe apple into a pie--my, it smells good!

Lorenzo chuckles politely at Kaige's feeble witticism.

Sabu says, 'oooooh'

Kaige gives a meat pie to LadyAce.

Sabu beams delightedly.

LadyAce giggles at Kaige.

Kaige says, 'doh'

Kaige says, 'tomorrow'

Kaige snaps her fingers. ATTITUDE!

Sabu says to Kaige, 'bake me apple pies!'

Sandra giggles.

Sabu nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

LadyAce says to Sabu, 'bake 'em yourself :P'

New Spells/Cast Levels/Spellbooks

Jereia says, 'k, if you have the words for a spell for lots of levels, but it gets implemented later, do you still start with like 0 cast level on it?'

LadyAce says, 'late spells like that, we put in spellbooks'

Sandra says, 'Lemme say now before I forget'

Sandra says, 'the spellbook for frost bolt will be a few days late'

Match nods solemnly.

LadyAce bonks Sandra on the head!

P-k says, 'new create spell or cause spell?'

Sandra says to LadyAce, 'wha?'

Ea! says, 'You can find out tommorow.'

Jereia laughs with amusement.

SkullKrusher snickers at Ea! nastily.

Myrella says, 'cause obviously since when does create evr get better? :P'

LadyAce says to Sandra, 'weeee want the spell book nowwwwwww'

Sandra giggles.

Jereia giggles.

Sandra says, 'tough! suffer'

Sandra throws her head back and cackles with insane glee!

Animate Dead Randomness

P-k says, 'may I ask a question?'

P-k says, 'okay, its about animate dead'

P-k says, 'im told by Zandy that its based on level/mind but mostly randomness, is that correct?'

P-k says, 'to get a zombie I mean'

P-k bonks herself on the head and looks sheepish.

Match comforts P-k.

Ea! says, 'It's mostly random.'

P-k says, 'well, will it ever be changed to include more of a mind requirement and take away a little of the randomness, sorta a treat for those who invest in mind gear'

Ea! says, 'I want to do a major overhaul to animate dead, but it's a ways off.'

P-k nods her agreement with Ea!.

P-k says, 'just wondering, cause the randomness aspect is sorta stinky :('

Progress on Hell?

Sabu says, 'how soon can we expect hell!?'

Sabu drools contentedly.

LadyAce says, 'It's not in testing :P'

Kae says, 'that one must be for me'

Sandra says, 'when its done!'

Sabu says, 'bah!'

Kae says, 'let's just say, don't expect to see it go in next week :)'

Sabu says to Kae, 'teeest it already!'

LadyAce says, 'it's not done :P it can't go in to testing til then'

Sabu says, 'make croaker test his hades too darn it all!'

Kae says to Sabu, 'well,w hat'd you rather have, a good area that takes a bit to build or a sloppy job that gets boring in two weeks?'

Sabu says, 'hades is done tho!'

Rosaline nods her agreement with Sabu.

Rosaline says, 'I want hell!'

Match says, 'hell... sounds well.. hellish!'

Match says, 'sounds fun!'

Create Mounts?

Chaykin says, 'I'd like to suggest an idea' Chaykin says, 'I think it would be really neat if creates got a spell where they could summon a mountable mob, like an ethereal horse or something'

LadyAce says, 'sounds like fun, suggest it on idea?'

Jereia giggles.

Jereia smiles happily.

Ea! says, 'Yeah, I like that idea.'

Chaykin says, 'k'

Ryan claps for Chaykin approvingly.

Taco says, 'thats kewl'

Rosaline jumps in the air and slams a thunderous high-5 with Chaykin!

Jereia nods solemnly.

Myrella says, 'Summon dragon mount'

P-k says, 'no horse, etheral elephant!'

An aura of heavenly light appears above Myrella's head.

LadyAce says, 'a pegasus would be neat'

Taco says, 'DRAGON MOUNT'

Jereia says, 'yeah, dragon would be cool heh'

P-k says, 'elephant~'

Sabu says, '2nd circle spell! for horse that is ;) greater mount for 3rd circle!'

Darla says, 'heavenly chariot'

Match sighs loudly.

Sabu nods to himself - he must be getting senile.

Rosaline says, 'Etheral make it pickable by the caster!'

Ea! says, 'Just you wait. I'll make it "summon pony"'

Taco says, 'pegasus or dragon evil that kinda thing'

Chaykin giggles.

LadyAce giggles at Ea!.

Match sighs loudly.

P-k laughs with amusement.

LadyAce says to Ea!, 'how about summon wild ass? :)'

Kae says to Ea!, 'summon infernal mean pony with bad breath'

Chaykin snickers softly.

Match says, 'a surprise'

Jereia nods her agreement with Taco.

Ea! giggles.

Taco nods solemnly.

Zandy summmons an etherial immortal to ride?

Kaige says, 'I was just thinking based on cast level ranges'

Kaige giggles.

Sandra thinks it should be a pink one, with dots.

Rosaline laughs with amusement.

Sabu says, 'eww thats nasty'

Ea! says to Zandy, 'No, I pulled that code.'

Soze nods his agreement with Sandra.

Taco says, 'or evil nuetral good dragon horse thing pegasuss'

P-k says, 'yeah, like the new find familer for AD&D, the higher the level, the bader the animal'

Rage before Combat Round 1?

Sin says, 'Why is it that sometimes I can rage before combat is iniated, but other times I cannot?'

LadyAce says, 'it's all in the pulses'

Match looks at LadyAce questioningly.

Ea! says, 'Rage can't be used to iniate combat. If the combat has already started, you can rage.'

Mikhail says, 'sometimes combat starts before first combat round'Ea! nods his agreement with Mikhail.

Sabu says to Ea!, 'its possible to rage before the round happens though'

Sin nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'if the mud knows you have started combat and you get the rage in before the actual fight rounds pass, you've been lucky'

Sabu nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Sin says, 'Okay'

Sin says, 'Thanks!'

Rosaline says, 'you go Kick rage and if you lucky youll get kick in before the tick is over of something?'

LadyAce says, 'it's kinda like getting ready to go into a whirling jumprope ... all in the timing'

Skill Trees?

P-k says, 'hmmm, may I suggest a new str skill, beserk!'

SkullKrusher says, 'rage :P'

Taco says, 'beserk rage'

Taco nods his agreement with SkullKrusher.

Vandervecken says, 'The warrior begins combat with its contemplation.'

Ea! says to P-k, 'it's in for trees already.'

Sandra says, 'beserk is a skill tree thing'

P-k nods solemnly.

SkullKrusher looks up into the sky and ponders.

P-k says, 'cool!'

Mikhail says, 'so don't hold your breath'

Mikhail ducks to the ground.

P-k giggles.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Mikhail.

Ea! nods his agreement with Mikhail.

Taco says, 'When they goin in??????'

Taco says, 'skill trees'

Myrella says, 'and we all know how long trees take to grow'

Chaykin giggles.

Taco says, '2 3 years?'

Mikhail says, 'skill trees? 3 years ago supposedly :)'

Taco says, ':P'

LadyAce says, 'they're old growth trees :P'

Rosaline peers around the room intently.

Chaykin says, 'the skill trees were planted 6 years ago, so they will still be saplings for a good long while'

Taco says, '?'

P-k says, 'honestly, im told this skills trees thing has been talked about for a long time, is this thing really close to being finished or still way off?'

Ea! says, 'I dunno, whenever we have time to rearrange all of our code from the ground up.'

Taco says, 'when will they be fill'

Chaykin giggles at Ea!.

Vinnie says, 'i first heard bout skill trees after the michigan meet :P'

LadyAce says, 'it's a project we want to do but we're not working on.'

Ea! says, 'Oh, it's basically on the back burner.'

Chaykin says to Ea!, 'sounds like a good weekend project'

Chaykin winks suggestively at Ea!.

P-k nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'so we can't give you a timeline because we're not working on them directly'

Taco says, 'i heard about them 3 years ago'

Ea! giggles at Chaykin.

P-k nods solemnly.

Soze would guess the reason skilltrees are not in is the same as with any other IT-related kind of work, the assignment grows as you make it and the specs change.

LadyAce says, 'we're working on all the things we need to do before we can do them'

Taco says, 'why not there kewl'

Kaige nods her agreement with Soze.

Kaige shudders.

Taco says, 'i think everyone would like it if they came it'

P-k says, 'no complaints here, im still new here and I like this mud so far'

LadyAce points at Match.

Darla says, 'would it be possible to put in more parts of skilltrees as each part is completed?'

LadyAce smiles at P-k.

Ea! says to Darla, 'We already are.'

Darla smiles at Ea!.

Ea! says, 'housing, the xp scale, etc.'

Kae says, 'was going to say, parts are already installed'

LadyAce says, 'geography sections!'

Ea! says, 'The poison stuff I occassionally work on...'

Darla says to Ea!, 'but it's the str skills that are really needed'

Huginn cheers for Ea! - huzzah!

Soze says, 'of course, if you wanted skilltrees that bad my guess is you _could_ have a 500 room mud with skilltrees and no room for custom socials, and custom code allover, no ideas blahblahblah'

Kae says to Soze, 'also known as diku.mud?'

P-k says, 'ohh, yeah.........'

Soze nods his agreement with Kae.

Soze shivers uncomfortably.

Match says, '**ack THHHHHPT**'

Ea! says to Kae, 'Diku *plus* trees.'

Soze giggles at Ea!.

Kae played the original DIKU once. It really does bite.

Darla says, 'treeku?'

Soze was merely pointing something out.

Match chuckles politely at Darla's feeble witticism.

Vinnie pats Kae on the head.

Kae says to Ea!, 'kewl, then we can go kill fidos with trees :)'

Soze says to Kae, 'weee! fidos!'

Taco says, 'hey theres a cat stuck in the mytho skill trees!!!!'

Match never played DIKU.

Kae says, 'I logged into the original DIKU once -- when the imp popped in and gave me 10k gold coins just because a player was actually ON, I dropped link and never came back :p'

New Hometowns?

Match says, 'are there any new places to start in coming up or anything like that?'

Sabu says, 'yeah like new hometowns would be nice before trees..'

Sabu scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Kaige says to Match, 'not before trees I don't think'

P-k says, 'I wanna be from alaska!'

Match says, 'ah.. ok!'

Bridge of Will?

Chaykin says, 'on the subject of spells...I've noticed that once in awhile "new" unimplemented spells will show up. Like bridge of will just appeared very recently, so works seems to be going into some spells, but when will they actually become available?'

P-k says, 'ohh, like resurrect'

Jereia says, 'btw what does bridge of will do, there isn't a help file'

Jereia looks up into the sky and ponders.

Sandra says, 'nothing yet'

LadyAce says, 'Hm, is it actually coded?'

LadyAce says, 'I think we're just saving it a seat.'

Chaykin nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Jereia nods solemnly.

Kaige says, 'coded but not committed, and I don't think it's even keeping that name'

Match sighs loudly.

Sandra says, 'it's showing up in spellbook tho'

Kaige nods her agreement with Sandra.

P-k laughs with amusement.

Taco rolls around laughing at Kae's joke.

Chaykin says, 'well I like that policy of putting it in spellbooks when you know a spell will be going in, so we can set cast levels, so keep it up ;)'

Kaige says, 'well that that one showed up wasn't intentional.'

Kaige chuckles politely.

Chaykin says, 'well hehe...make it a new policy then!'

Strength Fighters Tweaks?

P-k says, 'okay, I am told through a few people that you guys are thinking of tweaking the str fighting system, is this true?'

LadyAce says, 'I don't know of any discussions active on that'

P-k says, 'okay, thats why I asked!'

LadyAce says, 'we'd really like to get out of the balance game for a while if we can'

P-k smiles happily.

LadyAce says, 'get into doing new stuff instead of hammering out tiny dents in old stuff'

P-k says, 'are the dex/con/str fighting skills balanced?'

Kae says, 'prolly going to have to balance all over for trees anyway'

SkullKrusher snickers softly.

Soze laughs at P-k.

Myrella shakes her head in disagreement with P-k.

Ea! says to P-k, 'Depends on who you ask.'

Lorenzo says to P-k, 'Depends who you ask. :p'

Soze says to P-k, 'that depends on who you ask'

Mikhail says to P-k, 'never to everyone's satisfaction'

P-k says, 'wow!'

Darla rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Sandra says, 'hehe'

LadyAce says, 'well, I don't think they're necessarily 100% balanced, but they're not unplayably unbalanced.'

P-k nods solemnly.

Myrella nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Soze nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Rosaline rolls around on the ground with laughter.

Kaige says, 'I've heard that every type of char you can make sucks. so..'

Kaige shrugs philosophically.

Chaykin says, 'I don't think there's much doubt that str does need an iota of help, not a major change but there are issues with it'

Darla nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Kae says, 'actually I have my hardest time on the reputably overpowered dex cause, so :)'

Sandra says, 'I dunno, mind/spi is a little tough for me'

Jereia smiles happily.

Jereia is dex create heh

P-k says, 'mind/spi is the one ,yup'

Chaykin says, 'namely that if you don't have high dex, even with 100 str you normally don't hit for beans :)'

Sandra says, 'I can't damcap every round, so I think it's broken ;)'

Kae snickers at Sandra nastily.

Phoenix says, 'Zeirath can damcap almost every round =P'

LadyAce says, 'well, if you wanna hit, carry a lighter weapon :P'

Lorenzo chuckles politely at Sandra's feeble witticism.

Darla says, 'well, different types are different at different levels. but str does need some help'

Vinnie has issues with his str char.

Sabu says to Sandra, 'bah thats not being fair =p'

Huginn says to Phoenix, 'guess he doesn't need old gear then'

Phoenix says, 'old gear is over rated'

Sabu says to Huginn, 'dont get me going on old gear =p'

Sabu snorts derisively.

Spellbook for Frost Bolt?

Black2Guest says, 'is there going to be a way to get better at frost bolt, like how you could get better with etheric archer'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Black2Guest.

LadyAce says, 'spellbook. Sandra said it's going in a touch late though'

Morph Spell Idea

Taco says, 'i actually have a spell idea i think it would be kewl to have a spell where a person could change a big mob into a smaller mob (MORPH) making it easier to kill and if the mob was already small it would harm it and make it attack'

Taco smiles happily.

Sandra says, 'yes, I can see killing a level 1 skatha would be alot of fun'

Phoenix says, 'ohh for 600 mana?'

Taco nods solemnly.

Chaykin chuckles politely.

Kae says, 'and really worth the mana xp-wise'

Sandra says, 'but don't hold your breath ;)'

Taco says, 'well knock it down half'

Kae nods to herself - she must be getting senile.

Match says, 'it sounds cool.. but it should cost alot of mana'

Taco says, ':P'

Taco says, 'and it wouldnt work for some mobs!'

Rosaline says, 'well since I have no questions i'm going to jet for somewhere less spammy'

Phoenix says, 'a lvl 25 skatha'

LadyAce says, 'I think it sounds too hard to balance'

Phoenix looks up into the sky and ponders.

Taco says, 'like 500'

Match says, 'like sidhes'

Taco says, '500 mana'

Darla says, 'would you get the xp of the big mob or the little?'

LadyAce says, 'it'd be just like ID'

Match says, 'or the cian etc'

Taco says, 'big mob xp'

Kae says, 'well, if you turn a lvel 50 mob into a level 25 mob, you don't get much xp out of that kill'

LadyAce says, 'we can't make it work on the really good mobbies, cuz then it's too easy xp. but if it doesn't work on biggies, why bother?'

LadyAce says, 'etc etc.'

Sandra says, 'I'd require every lvl 50 mob be immune from a spell such as that'

Darla nods her agreement with Kae.

Taco nods solemnly.

Phoenix nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Ea! says, 'I agree with LadyAce on this -- too tricky to balance.'

Taco says, 'well like make certain mobs'

Taco says, 'like snipe tags have them'

Taco says, 'make morph like that'

Match says, 'well.. if you are a few levels from killing alladin and u really need the xp.. i think it would work'

Match says, 'or it could morph you stronger'

Taco nods solemnly.

Chaykin says, 'I wonder why it's even necessary, if it knocks a mob down in levels it would have to knock them down in xp too, and then you may as well just kill something already your level'

Kae nods her agreement with Chaykin.

LadyAce says, 'snipe is another example, big balance pain and frustration for players cuz their skills don't do anything useful'

Match nods solemnly.

Taco says, 'ok knock down xp too'

Kae says, 'only function would be to get the gear, and we have a spellf or that already'

LadyAce says, 'snipe is a little different cuz of the rush risk'

Kae says to LadyAce, 'my sniper likes sniping, tho!'

Phoenix nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Taco says, 'so dont knock down XP'

Match says, 'then theres no point, knok down xp and u might as well kill somfin your own level'

Taco says, 'dont knock down xp just make it a CHICKEN'

Chaykin says, 'plus all the mobs that resist those techniques ;)'

Taco says, 'with insane xp'

Taco says, 'or morph it into a frog'

Taco chuckles politely.

Soze says to Taco, 'you just gave the answer to yourself there'

Why XP values Change?

Myrella says, 'How come mobs like Senor Farrari seem to keep changing xp value?'

Sandra says, 'his xp hasn't changed in a few months, at least' Myrella says, 'yes Well its been a while since I killed him' Kaige says, 'yeah the file itself hasn't been changed since early Feb. =)'

Myrella says, 'I didnt say I killed him often :P'

Sabu giggles. Kaige says, 'but the generic answer is "balance"'

Myrella says to Kaige, 'What kind of character is that myth based on?'

Myrella chuckles politely.

Better ways to gag channels?

Soze says, 'well, basically I wanted to reflect off something I idead yesterday or such'

Soze says, 'about an equevalent of RBL on public channels'

Darla says, 'RBL?'

Ruby says, 'RBL?'

Ea! giggles.

Soze says, 'realtime black hole -- filter'

Soze says, 'ea knows, is my guess'

Darla says, 'oh, so we don't have to listen to potty mouths?'

Soze says, 'something like that'

Chaykin says, 'is that when the mud replaces foul words with junk chars?'

Soze says, 'a gag-feature, that enables people currently in the list'

LadyAce says, 'oh, people would just substitute the letters with 0 or something'

LadyAce says, 'I think you can do it with clients tho'

Match nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Kae says, 'I think what Soze is after is more like a feature that will auto-limit anyone who's gagchanneled by 2/3 the mud -- or suchlike'

Kae says to Soze, 'at least that was how I read you yesterday :)'

Ea! says to Soze, 'You're basically suggesting letting people subscribe to a list of people that's administered by a few people?'

Soze says, 'no, more like, instead of imms just sitting there waiting for them to cross the line, they could be added to a gaglist earlier so people with that gag-feature on wouldnt see it'

Soze says, 'which could be automated too'

Kaige says to Soze, 'well, that's what limit basically is'

Soze shrugs philosophically.

Soze raises his eyebrow at Kaige.

Ruby says, 'Myself I still don't see the problem. We may see the letters. But we can choose to just ignore them'

Soze missed that..

LadyAce says, 'if we limit someone they can't talk on channels'

Soze says, 'I know'

Chaykin says, 'On a website I know of with chat functions, it has a filter that, for instance, replaces the f word with @#$ and the like'

Ea! says to Kaige, 'Well, a way to opt-in to limiting everyone who's been warned for language at all.'

Soze grumbles.

Soze says, 'I can see you are failing to see my point :P'

Kaige nods her agreement with Ea!.

Kae says to Soze, 'elaborate :p'

Soze says, 'umm'

Kaige says to Ea!, 'Yeah, I understood that's what he was saying.'

Soze says, 'imagine having a config foo-filter ON'

LadyAce says, 'who would you filter with your foo filter?'

Darla says, 'I see'

LadyAce says, 'people who've been warned?'

Darla says, 'so there would be different levels of limiting'

Kae says, 'I'm personally all hot for the idea that being channelgagged by 50% of the playerbase means limit until your status changes...'

Ruby says, 'heh My last warning will be 2 years old in 18 days :P'

Soze says, 'people can be added to that filter, and people with the option on, would then be gagged automatically as long as they were in it, people who are less caring about what they see on channels, *before* it gets so much out of hand that limits are tossed at that particular player'

Ea! says to Kae, 'Yeah, but hard to implement without totally rewriting the gag stuff...'

Kae says to Ea!, 'eep'

Myrella says, 'why do we need it though?'

Ruby says to Soze, 'would you mind me picking over your idea a bit?'

Chaykin says, 'I think people should have to be responsible for their own language'

Ea! says, 'The trick, I think, is who is allowed to add to the list...'

Chaykin shrugs philosophically.

Myrella nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Soze says, 'my experience is that people are just waiting for this particular char to step so much out of line that he/she gets her channels taken away from them, but with a huge gaglist it keeps them from gagging'

Soze shrugs philosophically.

Ea! says, 'If it's anyone, then people would use it as a way to attack their enemies -- so we wouldn't want that...'

Kae says, 'err, no, limiting based on whether we like person a or person b is bad'

Ruby says, 'Personaly I realy do not see any point. If you don't like what is said on chat then you deal with it. Don't have immortals spend there time coding in something that is very apt to being abused'

Myrella nods her agreement with Ruby.

LadyAce says, 'well, you can suggest it via idea, and see if anyone picks it up'

Soze says, 'I did'

LadyAce nods solemnly.

Soze says, 'abused, how?'

Soze raises his eyebrow at Ruby.

Ruby says to Soze, 'by what ea just said'

Ruby says to Soze, 'say Arsene comes on...'

Ruby says, 'He could add people to the list'

Darla says, 'I like the idea of preventing bad language and other things on chat, becuase I think a lot of people here are prone to suggestion, and will act out merely because other's are'

Tarn says, 'I think limiting should be an imm responsibility - too easy for players to abuse. For a start most players don't have the same understanding about language and PG rating.'

Chaykin says, 'people don't use gagchannel much anyway I don't think. I don't, just because I don't like missing anything'

Soze says, 'I didnt say it *had* to be that way, I said it _could_'

Darla nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Kae says, 'I worship that feature myself, at least I only have to listen to certain people as me ;)'

Sabu recalls a few players talking dirty on channels in front of imms and nothing was said..

Sabu shrugs helplessly.

Kae says, 'Language is not only Soze's problem, at least not to judge from the number of complaints about it that I see.'

Soze says to Ruby, 'obviously you didn't really hear what I said, so I'm wasting my breath'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Kae.

Tarn says to Sabu, 'you can see imms tells to players?'

Ruby says to Soze, 'I'm not the only one in the room so your not wasting anything'

LadyAce says, 'If we had a lot of gagchanneling going on, it might be worth creating the filters to make it work better'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'well when they continue to talk about sexual acts and the likes for an hour without anything said on public i figure they arent being told nothing'

Chaykin says, 'I think the line has moved and some people have a problem with that. Stuff that may not have been acceptible in the past seems more prone to just being ignored now'

LadyAce says, 'but with no one using individualized gagchanneling, I don't think they'd jump on mass gagchanneling'

Soze says, 'well, the reason I idead this is because I personally have been using gagchannel ALOT lately'

Soze says, 'and it's a pain to administer the lists'

LadyAce says, 'well, we do monitor the uses of it...if it becomes more common, we'll take a look.'

Match says, 'well... if people keep trak of thier language then there should be no problem'

LadyAce says, 'if you object to something being said, you should say something'

Ruby just doesn't view it as a big problem...

Darla says, 'but people don't'

Match says, 'i was warned for swearing on a long past deleted character'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'not saying it offended me but saying it wasnt appropriate... and especially not for the period of time it was talked about'

LadyAce says, 'the presence of a visible imm doesn't indicate acceptance.'

Match says, 'the system works!'

Chaykin says to Match, 'heh that's easy for us to say, but try to convince the person mouthing off of that'

Myrella says, 'the real problem is every player has a different view of what is acceptable or not'

Tarn says, 'we don't want to look like wowsers, especially when several people are doing it.'

Soze says to Match, 'you can always improve a system'

Phoenix says, 'well i was'

Darla says, 'a lot of people play drunk, god knows why, and they really can't control what they say'

Ruby grins evilly at Darla.. wonder what he's thinking...

Lorenzo says, 'Part of the trouble with saying when language bothers you is that the overwhelming response is "just get off chat if it bothers you".'

Sabu nods his agreement with Lorenzo.

Ruby says to Darla, 'playing drunk adds challenge'

Ruby ducks to the ground.

Soze nods his agreement with Lorenzo.

Darla laughs with amusement.

Lorenzo says, 'That attitude needs to be discouraged.'

LadyAce says, 'well, if a chatted protest doesn't get you anything, talk to an imm.'

Taco says, 'i hate drunk rp i cant understand people'

Taco chuckles politely.

Chaykin says, 'some of those chars should have died of liver disease years ago'

Tarn says, 'but the one that personally upsets me, suicide stuff - I usually send them a tell and say why it bothers me. That often pulls them up.'

Darla says to Chaykin, 'I mean players'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Darla.

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'i did that once.. but it was looked at as me being an idiot or having an attitude ;)'

Lorenzo says, 'my question related to this topic.'

Lorenzo says, 'er, relates'

Match says, 'mine is related to an earlier topic.. and its a quick answer yes or no!'

Bonus for 100 stats?

Sabu says, 'ok this was tossed up a few times i was wondering if it can be looked into more'

Sabu says, 'my idea is this: if you have a 100 in your main stat.. is it feesible to say you could hit better with your weapon so in essence give you a bonus to your hitroll or something??'

Myrella says, 'how would you define main stat?'

Ruby thinks the mud is trying to get away from people having to have 100 in there main stat

Sabu says, 'fightin stat'

Chaykin says, 'the mud doesn't know what your fighting stat is'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Ruby.

Kaige says, 'you already get a bonus for a 100 in your main fighting stat with your weapon'

Huginn slowly fades into thin air.

Ruby looks at Kaige, boggled.

Ea! says, 'We don't want 100 to be all that much different than 99.'

Ruby says to Kaige, 'Really?'

Kaige says, 'ok so you have to actually learn your proficiencies skills too.,.but who doesn't?'

Lorenzo says to Ea!, 'Me neither.'

Lorenzo smiles happily.

Sabu says, 'yeah but it would seem like you could hit better with your weapon if you were fully statted'

Sabu says, 'and some dont have the luxery of having high dex for hitroll'

Ea! says, 'Why? It's just slightly more than having 99. Why should it be so much different?'

Ruby says to Kaige, 'but there is a boost for having 100 in your main stats?'

Kaige says to Ruby, 'the higher the stat for your weapon/prof the more swings you get, which increases damage and to hit'

Chaykin says, 'hitroll isn't everything'

Sabu says, 'yeah but i use a staff.. i should be better hitting with a staff then a dex fighter with a staff'

Lorenzo says to Sabu, 'I d, but I don't have the luxury of high str. That's why I carry damage equipment.'

Myrella says to Chaykin, 'But it sure helps'

Mikhail says to Sabu, 'you will be cause of fight skills'

Chaykin says, 'it mainly helps if you are using a weapon with only a few attacks'

Ruby says to Sabu, 'I'm 100% sure you hit better with a staff than i do'

Sabu says, 'dex would be because of hitroll'

Ruby says to Kaige, 'but I thought you said there was a bonus for 100?'

Ruby says to Kaige, 'you don't get any more attacks from is it... ah 92 to 100..'

Kaige says, 'well, not a _separate_ one... but it's more than you get for having 80 or 90'

Darla says, 'why should 100 be a bigger difference from 99 than 99 is from 98?'

Chaykin says, 'I don't think it is'

Ruby says to Kaige, 'well I think I just misunderstod you.'

Sabu says, 'dunno.. just thought having a full stat should give a bonus and i figured hitting would be the most fair way'

Tarn says, '99 is one more point of hit or dam than 98 (if dex or str)'

Lorenzo says, '100 shouldn't be some kind of grail if getting from 95 to 100 costs you the same as getting from 90 to 95.'

Myrella says, 'from what I recall Rufus once mentioned having 100 in a stat was about 3% better than 99'

Myrella shrugs philosophically.

Mikhail says, '100 should only have a bonus if it was hard coded that no toher stat could be above 89 or something'

Sabu shrugs philosophically.

Tarn says, 'I think Sabu's point is that some of us are happy with 91 in our fight stat, especially if we're fitting in mage stats ... maybe there should be something for people who go for 100'

Ea! says, 'There is. On average, they'll do more damage.'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'dont think they understand me =p'

Tweaks for Dex?

Chaykin says, 'you told P-k there are no changes to str being talked about. I remember a couple months ago you guys mentioned a package of changes to dex being talked about/worked on sometime in the not distant future, is that still going on or is it'

Chaykin says, 'still another back burner type deal?'

Ea! says to Chaykin, 'It's still on the list. Haven't worked on it.'

Chaykin nods solemnly.

Ea! says, 'But it's still there.'

LadyAce says, 'that's backburner, but not as far backburner as trees'

LadyAce giggles.

Kae giggles.

Chaykin chuckles politely.

Chaykin says, 'k'

Darla says, 'backburner, but not put in the pantry'

Chaykin says to Darla, 'try the back yard'

Myrella says, 'so whats on the main burner then?'

Mikhail says, 'pk thanks to everybody :)'

Mikhail ducks to the ground.

Chaykin says, 'yeah right'

Ea! says to Myrella, 'Mainly I've been bug hunting and doing wierd pk tweaks.'

Myrella says, 'yeah well pkillers whine all the time, what else is new'

Ruby says to Ea!, 'I got a bug to report btw'

Ea! says, 'I'm hoping to get to some more bug hunting and then back to poisons.'

Chaykin says, 'it isn't just whining, there are issues and there is some intelligent dialogue going on'

Chaykin grumbles.

Chaykin hates it when people summarily dismiss pkillers as whiners.

Ruby nods his agreement with Chaykin.

Myrella says to Chaykin, 'I know I like pkilling'

Ruby says, 'yeh sure pkers whine alot.. about 2% of them anyway'

Myrella says, 'just annoying that it dominates so much'

Chaykin says, 'if people want to talk about non-pk issues they should'

Chaykin says, 'but mostly they don't'

Tarn says to Chaykin, 'we still see on the board 'lets go back to old pk' ... if that's not whining, when we know its pkok or no pk, what is?'

Chaykin says to Tarn, 'wrong'

Ruby says, 'pk keeps alot of people here. without it I know many many people that would just up and quit legend'

Chaykin says to Tarn, 'like one person is saying that'

Myrella nods her agreement with Ruby.

Chaykin says to Tarn, 'all the rest are suggesting stuff to help out pkok'

Tarn says, 'well it seems to take up a lot of board space.'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'bah read my posts =p even tho they are spammy i hate that suggestion and point it out'

No Repair Quest Items

Chaykin says, 'I'd like to lodge a complaint about quest items being no_repair, I've encountered several such things and I think when you can only get an item once, it should bloody well be fixable :) that is all'Chaykin giggles.

Benaiah chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'hrm, I didn't know we had any quite like that.'

Tarn says, 'winged cap'

Kae says to Chaykin, 'Might want to hit bug/idea with that in individual cases, it sounds like a valid point'

Chaykin says, 'there is one such in Tudor, one in PIsles'

Benaiah nods his agreement with Tarn.

Chaykin says, 'two in PIsles'

Chaykin nods his agreement with Kae.

Myrella says, 'winged cap isn't one time only though is it?'

Sabu says, 'nope its not one time only'

Tarn says, 'I thought it was?'

Chaykin says, 'the item in tudor is definitely one time only'

Sabu says, 'oops i didnt mean to say that aloud!'

LadyAce says, 'hrm. tell to us later about 'em?'

Chaykin says, 'k'

Tells to get strings

Match says, 'ok.. cool.. i was wonderin if i needed a string attatched should i pray or will you get pissed **you as in immorts**'

Rusalka says, 'tells work'

LadyAce says, 'you should send a tell to an imm'

Rusalka says, 'prays annoy us'

LadyAce says, 'if there's a PR, tell to the pr.'

Tarn says, 'not when there are none vis.'

Match says, 'ok.. long as i know'

LadyAce says, 'if no pr, full admins next'

Match bows deeply.

Soze prayed by mistake and got a thorough beating.

LadyAce says, 'none vis, a string isn't an emergency, so wait :)'

Sabu says to Rusalka, 'but i like to pray!'

LadyAce comforts Soze.

Tarn says, 'it is if you're over rent and have to leave.'

Sabu says, 'praying is a bad thing here which is kinda funny ;)'

Kae says, 'well, hit someone without string and they'll tell you they can't do it...'

LadyAce says to Zandy, 'a lot of people who think they need strings...they actually just need restring'

Kae nods her agreement with LadyAce.

Rusalka says, 'restrings are much eaier'

Chaykin says, 'maybe there could be a command to let morts -only- restring items onto zips, that would eliminate the overrent problem'

LadyAce says, 'a lot a lot a lot'

Sabu does pray and chat lots when he is overrent and nobody vis..

Sabu scuffles his feet around in the dirt.

Kae says, 'even asst builders have restring'

Chaykin says, 'if there are no imms on'

Rusalka nods her agreement with Chaykin.

Rusalka has suggested that

LadyAce nods her agreement with Rusalka.

Sabu says, 'speaking on that topic i got a question!'

More on Better Gagchannel

Lorenzo says, 'On the subject of gagchannel:'

Lorenzo says, 'I suggested a while back that gagchannel be able to gag only specific channels, or to exclude certain channels from gagging.'

Lorenzo says, 'Any thoughts on that, and does that meet Soze's (for example) interest?'

Mikhail is a gagchannel lightning rod as of yesterday :)

Soze nods his agreement with Mikhail.

LadyAce looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce doesn't know the answer to how easy it is to do that.

LadyAce suspects it is nontrivial.

Lorenzo nods solemnly.

You do a slow fade as Soze whines at LadyAce, hoping he won't get to you too.

Soze ducks to the ground.

Mikhail says to LadyAce, 'ask that coder fellow one computer down :)'

Tarn says, 'cos sometimes you don't want to hear the garbage people chat on chat, but they might be selling the item you really want on auction.'

LadyAce says, 'I don't think the code has a lot of structures to know the differences between different channels in particular'

Ea! says, 'I think it's partially a matter of interface issues and time...'

Ea! says, 'And of storage...'

LadyAce says, 'I guess we could code it as a feature of the channel in and of itself'

LadyAce says, 'not sure if it'd work clientside as easily as serverside'

Mikhail says, 'maybe add and argument, like gagchannel chat'

Lorenzo shudders.

Ea! says, 'Since channels are dynamically created, we need a way to handle removing the list if the channel no longer exists...'

Soze looks up into the sky and ponders.

Ea! says, 'Do we remove it, or do we leave it there? If we leave it, we waste memory for a channel that may never exist again...'

Lorenzo says, 'I would dread setting this up in my client. And it only *needs* to apply to permanent channels.'

Soze says, 'umm, gagging with a wildcard or gag seperately... *pshrug*'

Mikhail says to Ea!, 'you should set main three as non-dynamic'

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'by clientside, i mean player-as-client, sorry'

Ea! says, 'well, perm. channels aren't *really* permenant.'

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'Ah'

Lorenzo looks up into the sky and ponders.

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'i.e. a big matrix of who you wanted to hear on what channel, individualized'

Ea! says, 'And the code handles them entirely the same, except for one bit and a few ifs.'

LadyAce says to Lorenzo, 'as opposed to gagchannel = don't hear on channel foo and bar'

Chaykin chuckles politely.

Ea! says, 'So it's a fairly complicated change, but not one I'm adverse to making if we can find a good way to implement it.'

Soze nods solemnly.

Lorenzo says, 'My interest was mainly with regard to distinguishing chat/info from auction and, say, trivia.'

'Lorenzo says, 'Lots of people I gag from chat, but it wouldn't be fair for me to ignore their bids, for example.'

Ea! looks up into the sky and ponders.

Tarn nods her agreement with Lorenzo.

LadyAce says, 'sure it would :P'

Chaykin says, 'why not? they shoulda thought of that before they mouthed off :P'

Lorenzo chuckles politely.

Soze chuckles politely.

Lorenzo says, 'OK, fair, maybe, but it stirs up trouble'

Soze says, 'perhaps the most hurting part is when it is the other way around'

LadyAce says, 'then it actually has a negative affect on their life :P'

Chaykin says, 'let em complain'

Chaykin shrugs helplessly.

Soze says, 'when *you* want something someone who mouthed off is selling'

Soze shrugs helplessly.

Chaykin says to Soze, 'I'd wait for the next one'

LadyAce says, 'why would you want to buy from a jerk?'

Soze nods his agreement with Chaykin.

LadyAce says, 'your hard earned gold in their grubby hands? Why bother?'

Chaykin nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Ruby says, 'heck I'd buy a rune-circle ring from Arsene or Landy :P'

Soze says, '*I* wouldn't'

Tarn says, 'well, if you've been asking on auction for 3 days for an item, and the jerk is selling it ...'

Sabu laughs with amusement.

Sabu says to Ruby, 'ill get ya one'

Ea! says, 'Well, it's a feature set that I wouldn't mind having, it's just that I'm not sure how to best implement it.'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with Ea!.

LadyAce says, 'well, to me it's worth more to make people pay for their antisocial behavior than to get some eq :P'

Soze still loves screenwidth!!!!!

Soze gives Ea! a great big smooch!

LadyAce giggles at Soze.

Lorenzo says to Ea!, 'OK, that's sort of what I expected.'

Lorenzo says, 'thanks'

Ea! giggles at Soze.

Ea! says, 'Yeah, it was a good idea.'

LadyAce smiles at Lorenzo.

LadyAce smiles at Ea!.

Tarn says, 'I'm used to about 8 or 10 players online at the same time, it can be hard to get items sometimes.'

Soze says, 'I can acutally tail p my logfiles for what is important now'

Lorenzo says, 'I just wanted to bring it up since it might address Soze's concerns, too.'

LadyAce says, 'you and Lorenzo do wacky client things. You should talk :P'

Lorenzo chuckles politely.

LadyAce says, 'go have a wacky client things party together :)'

Soze sinks his teeth into LadyAce's flesh.

Changes to HP/MA/MV

Soze says, 'when you changed the hp/ma/mv formula'

Soze says, 'you did that in mind to benefit those with high stats right?'

Soze says, 'like high con should have high hp, and mind/mana etc'

Soze says, 'or did I miss something?'

Kaige nods her agreement with Soze.

Soze says, 'oook'

Soze says, 'here comes the whining? part'

LadyAce says, 'I'd say to boost non-low con, not to boost high con.'

Soze says, 'it seems to me that it's a linear curve of cons/hp and mind/mana'

LadyAce nods her agreement with Soze.

Soze says, 'I had hoped it more of a logorithmic scale, but perhaps it already is, and I just missed it'

Soze reports: 12/389 hp 25/687 mana 405/444 mv.

Match comforts Soze.

Soze says, 'that's 41 cons with no hp-gear'

LadyAce says, 'well, curvy lines don't make nice round numbers.'

Chaykin says to Soze, 'oooh, go run around a lot and see if you can get all three of them red'

Soze says, 'shouldn't people with 100 cons and with hp-gear be able to get more than 800 then?'

LadyAce says, 'the code doesn't like fractions, it doesn't understand decimals.'

Ruby says to Soze, 'they can'

Sabu reports: 756/756 hp 339/339 mana 714/723 mv.

Chaykin comforts Sasha.

Sasha giggles at Mikhail.

Soze says, 'not a lot'

Sabu says to Soze, '100 con and some hp gear'

Soze says, 'and that would require a _LOT_ of hp-gear'

Ruby says, 'take a look at sabu'

LadyAce says, 'the idea was to give a little boost to people who don't have low con.'

Ruby says, 'throw on two of them nice rings and he gots 80 hp'

Soze says, 'leaving you with 950 hp, and 50 str and 50 dex or something'

Sabu says, 'sabu is missing up to 130 gear he could be using for hps'

Soze says, 'which isn't really boosting'

Soze shrugs philosophically.

Sabu reports: 756/756 hp 339/339 mana 714/723 mv.

LadyAce says, 'it was designed as a pretty small change overall.'

Sabu says, 'i could hit 900 if i wanted to'

Soze nods solemnly.

LadyAce says, 'not a revolution'

Soze says to Sabu, 'I know you can, that is not the issue'

Soze says, 'well, basically it just seems to me that you benefit those with 70>cons more than those with more'

Soze says to Sabu, 'and you do that, and your char will suck'

Any New Guns Coming?

Match says, 'ok i was wondering if any new guns were coming anytime soon AND ALSO'

Ruby is completely boggled.

Ruby says, 'new guns? heck we don't need them we need new bows! :P'

LadyAce says, 'new items come in (usually) with new areas...so not really on the horizon. there's a lot out there already tho'

Lorenzo nods his agreement with LadyAce.

Level restricted channel?

Match says, 'it might be a good ide to have level oriented chat line things cuz im a lowbie and i get al ittle pissed about all the people saying pd and sl and stuff!'

LadyAce says to Match, 'level oriented chat line?'

Sabu giggles at Match.

Sasha says to Match, 'ooh, I like that'

Mikhail goes EEK! in distress.

Mikhail says, 'maybe a channel just for setting up high level runs'

Sasha says to Match, 'I just use gossip though, cause most lobies don't have chat on'

Sabu says, 'thats nasty tho.. then we couldnt help the newbies'

Ruby says to Mikhail, 'but high lvl runs can use lvl 25's also'

Sabu says, 'the true newbies =p'

LadyAce says, 'well, we can always create a channel for stuff yanno'

LadyAce says, 'just ask and we'll make one'

Ruby says to Mikhail, 'a lvl 25 surgeon is always welcome intoa group of 10 lvl 50's'

Mikhail says to Ruby, 'so call it 25+ runs'

Match says, 'ok i might'

Match says, 'or 30+ thats more likey'

AT Getting Tougher

Tarn says, 'and maybe AT should have the same level reqs, cos all of a sudden there are a lot of AT runs.'

Ruby says, 'personaly I don't like the lvl recs'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'at isnt as hardly as much xp in there tho'

LadyAce says, 'lotsa lowbies levelling up in AT?'

Ruby says, 'poor surgeon's get screwed over by them'

LadyAce says, 'I'll just make more aggy mobs and traps :P'

Match says, 'really?? id like to!'

Soze says to Sabu, 'it is for the low levels'

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'and even trying to lead'

Kaige giggles.

Sabu says to LadyAce, 'not like they were with pd but the are leveling using at'

Tarn says, 'don't know, but it's very popular lately. Maybe someone learnt how to run it recently'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'yeah a few have ;)'

Tarn says, 'and they're testing out their new knowledge'

Ea! says, 'I think that the mobs should take the attitude of "attack the people who aren't fighting". After all, they're probably not fighting because they're either weak or wounded.'

Lorenzo says to Soze, 'I'll be sure to let you know if I find one. No suggestions I've heard to date pan out.'

Ea! says, 'And as a mob, your chance of survival is best if you lower the numbers and take out the healers.'

Tarn says to Ea!, 'or they may be the healers'

Mikhail says to Ea!, 'the Cruzeiro effect?'

Chaykin says to LadyAce, 'just make it like the rest of your area. You can't get in unless you've done, hmmm...the bellydancer quest'

LadyAce says, 'well, I now have some evil ideas :)'

Ruby says to Ea!, 'you only feel that way because your as evil as the Dark Lord himself'

Tarn says, 'hey, level reqs was all I asked for :)'

Sabu says, 'bah darn you all'

LadyAce says, 'I don't like level reqs'

Ea! says to Ruby, 'Hey, my algin is -987, not -1000.'

Lorenzo says to LadyAce, 'Oh, good! :)'

LadyAce says, 'I like slaying newbies.'

Ruby nods his agreement with LadyAce.

LadyAce winks suggestively at Match.

Sabu says, 'at isnt as bad as pd was for low level leveling =p'

Chaykin throws his head back and cackles with insane glee!

LadyAce says, 'only ones who need slaying, I promise.'

Sabu goes ACK TTTTHHHHHPPPPPPTTTTTT!

Ruby says to Ea!, 'ow better go slay someone with angels then :P'

Kae won't mention what she's going to be doing in Hell.

Tarn says to Sabu, 'not yet'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'the xp isnt good enough to powerlevel lowbies in at'

Tarn says to Sabu, 'but I see it on chat ... someone suggests PD then some lowbie says how about AT instead.'

Sabu says to Tarn, 'my alt got 7k a fight in at at level 15'

Ruby says, 'looks like I gota go stop a multi'

Sabu shrugs helplessly.

LadyAce says, 'anything else I can do for y'all?'

More clones for quest items?

Tarn points at a diamond stud.

Tarn says, 'when clones came in for quest items we were told that all one time items would eventually have clones ... is that still on the cards.'

Chaykin says, 'yeah, you can make the clones no_repair and the real ones repairable ;)'

Tarn says, 'that question doesn't get an answer?'

LadyAce says to Tarn, 'I don't know the answer to it'

Tarn nods solemnly.

LadyAce says to Tarn, 'I was waiting to see if anyone else knew :)'

Sabu says, 'ok nm i just remembered the answer :)'

Sabu flops about helplessly.

LadyAce says to Tarn, 'It's a head builder issue, I would say -- and Sandra had to leave.'

Kaige says, 'sandra'd be the best one to answer that one'

Timer for Looting

Ruby says, 'shouldn't you have a tick timer if you loot someone's corpse?'

LadyAce says, 'you're force-accepted to them'

Ruby says, 'well yeh'

Ruby says, 'but shouldn't you have a ooc tick timer also?'

Ea! says, 'Probably...'

LadyAce says, 'hrm, dunno. Looting is so rare :P idea it?'

Ruby says, 'well there isn't one cuz I just looted a newscroll recalled and went ooc'

Ruby chuckles politely.

Soze says, 'heh, you used the item and now you can basically reject?'

Ruby nods solemnly.

LadyAce giggles.

Soze says, 'how about dropping it in the agrabah dump and then rejecting'

Soze says, 'that's bad'

Ruby says, 'big deal though.. it was a new scroll. so HARD to get and all :P'

Soze wrinkles his nose distastefully.

LadyAce nods her agreement with Ruby.

Ruby says, 'oh poo'

LadyAce says, 'who else has questions?'

Ruby says, 'poowy Merc's always asking me for help after they called the Dark Lord a fake'

Ruby grumbles.

LadyAce says to Ruby, 'make them swear he's real and spiffy before you help'

Kaige says, 'on channels'

Kaige snickers softly.

Kaige says to LadyAce, 'we done then?'

LadyAce says, 'if no one else has questions :)'

LadyAce smiles happily.

LadyAce gives a big hug to everyone in the room.

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