March 2nd, 2000

Code Changes

'Kaige did that one,' LadyAce says.

Visi says, 'That ought to make being a healer way easier.'

'You know who to heal :),' Visi says.

Viagra says, full of spite, to Ea!, 'Love the wall changes, though ;).'

'I think Huginn did those,' LadyAce says.

'Wow, he did that for me,' Viagra says spitefully.

Random Stats

LadyAce says, 'Totally random.'

Visi says, 'So a 4-5 item is 50% of the time 4 and 50% 5?'

LadyAce says, 'Yes.'

'If it's set to do stats 100% of the time,' LadyAce says.

'Then it's just my luck that needs adjusting :),' Visi says.

PK Timer

'Well, technically the idea was to make it so that people couldn't sit out the pkok timer in a safe room and the two things use the same timer,' Ea! says.

LadyAce says, 'But the two things go together, safe rooms make you less attack'able than your houses do.'

Viagra says, full of spite, 'Much easier to recite a new scroll from a safe room than a closed, locked door.'

'That's not to say that the rent timer and the pkok timer are equivilent in value, only that they use the same data structure,' Ea! says.

Sandra says, 'Well, depends on the safe room.'

Sandra says, 'And the house ;).'

'Speaking generally, most safe rooms are recallable,' Viagra says spitefully.

'Any way you can code a way that there is a 'tick timer' after you die in pk so you can't get attacked anymore?' Trish says. 'Basically no multi's.'

'After a certain time that is,' Trish says.

LadyAce says, 'It's possible but not something we're looking to do right now.'

'I'd love to see that,' Viagra says, full of spite, to Trish.

Trish nods solemnly.

'I think that it'd wait until after pkok goes in to see if pkok fixes the problem...' Ea! says.

Trish nods her agreement with Ea!.

'Okay,' Trish says.

'Got a timezone on pkok?' Viagra says, full of spite.

Ea! shakes his head.

Viagra nods solemnly.

'Of course ;),' Viagra says, full of spite.

Ea! says, 'When we deal with steal.'

Viagra nods his agreement with Ea!.

Clan Halls

LadyAce says, 'We actually were trying to make them less safe. So sounds like it was something of a success :). The reason for that was to integrate the clan halls with the rest of the mud, rather than something artificial hanging out in space somewhere -- and allow for the elimination of the 'taunt from clan hall' syndrome that annoys everyone.'

'But how does it make sense if your clan hall is where you gather to meet like in a war, the barracks of one of the sides is protected from enemies,' Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly.

LadyAce says, 'If that's where you gather, then you should invest in some good protection, and attack any who violate your sanctum. Great opportunity for RP, etc.'

'But it could be done from indus safe-room too,' Vendetta says fluently.

Visi says, 'It'd be neat if there were a door type that needed two people to try and break it at once.'

'But whit aboot the individuality o' the auld clan haulsh?' McDougan says, slurring every word. 'The lady o' the lake and aul, or the very individual typesh.'

LadyAce says to McDougan, 'Those were a necessary casualty of making the clan system purely player-controlled.'

'Weel, cannae they be added back in shoomhoo?' McDougan says, slurring every word.

LadyAce says, 'It also forces clanhalls to be reasonable IC.'

'For a large bit o' rent?' McDougan says, apparently drunk.

LadyAce says, 'We were very intentionally getting out of the business of doing anything "special" for clans.'

'Ick?' McDougan says, apparently drunk. 'Och! Weel, lashie! I tink hevin a large flock o' sheep in m'garrrrrden ish appropreet feer me ash a shephed but I cannae hev un! Wheresh m'shjeep then? 'Gie me m'sheep! And we all ken ye want them.'

'Obtain them the same way everyone else does,' LadyAce says to McDougan. 'Buy them or steal them.'

'They willnae shtay!' McDougan says drunkenly to LadyAce. 'And I cannae get them oop the wee cliff.'

Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly, 'It doesn't matterm if they stay houses but it is possible to make the clan halls unbreakable.'

'If you want an unbreakable door, buy one...' LadyAce says.

Vendetta says in a courtly fashion, 'Those don't exist, do they?'

LadyAce says, 'Unbreakables do, yes.'

Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly, 'What about unpickable?'

LadyAce says, 'No unpickables.'

'Buy a good lock?' Chunk says playfully.

Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly, 'Tell me that does not discriminate against all STR fighters.'

'It does, but then it's thieves and such who should be breaking into houses,' LadyAce says to Vendetta. 'We had to give houses some kind of weakness, that's the one we chose.'

'It's still not easy with a good lock,' Visi says.

Vendetta says fluently, 'But back to the clan hall idea, shouldn't clans have something that normal people don't?'

Lemming says, 'Why?'

Ea! says to Vendetta, 'Clan channels. roster command...'

'No,' Nepon says, apparently exhausted.

'Ability to share a banka ccount for the hall/house,' Sandra says.

Vendetta says in a courtly fashion to Ea!, 'Not to sound mean but both of those do not do a great deal of a lot.'

Vendetta says in a courtly fashion, 'Well now that everyone is against me.'

'True, they're not a huge ingame advantage,' LadyAce says. 'But then again, why should they be? The primary benefits of being in a clan are created by the people who are in the clan.'

'No, I dont think 'clans' should be elevated over the rest of the mud, thats all,' Lemming says.

Nepon says, 'Nor do i.'

'Yeah, having a bunch of friends who can help you when you need a hand is really nice,' Ea! says.

Vendetta says fluently, 'Well then why have clans at all?'

'If its not to your liking, why be pkill at all?' Nepon says.

'Its players' choice to make clans, we give the option for them to do so,' Sandra says.

'I do however miss old clanhalls too,' Chunk says playfully.

'They're a fun feature for people who enjoy such things,' LadyAce says. 'Some assistance in organizing a group.'

Ea! says, 'My clanned characters will go out of their way to help a clan mate regardless of whether they've met the person before.'

Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly, to Nepon, 'I am not complainig about PK only.'

'They're more of a social thing than something to get you ahead,' Visi says.

''course, I trust my GM's tastes in clan mates,' Ea! says.

Rent Values

'A very large and annoying formula,' LadyAce says.

Visi says, 'There's a file on that somewhere on legend's thing.'

LadyAce says, 'Each +stat point has a value, each disadvantage on the item has a - value, etc. A certain amount for weapon quality, a certain amount for +parry, sneak, a discount for align restricts, etc.'

McDougan says, slurring every word, 'Then ye add ash miooch ah ye feellike tae dae buggery tae the ladsh wha ushe it.'

Visi says, 'Plusses cost a lot more than minuses pay.'

'Oh and discounts for being quest items too,' LadyAce says.

Nepon says, 'Where can i read about this formula? .'

Visi says, 'ftp://ftp.legendmud.org/pub/Docs/mortmud_docs/3obj.sample'

'If you come across an item which has a rent you think is unfair you can tell us about it and see what we think,' LadyAce says.

Building An Area

LadyAce says, 'Why are you doing that? You don't think any of us could have any ideas to help you along the way? :P.'

'Ooooo, dont do that,' Lemming says.

'Because its an area i have wanted to see here for several years,' Nepon says.

'Some old copies of the imm docs are up for ftp, as Visi noted,' LadyAce says. 'But I really recommend against creating it before applying :).'

Ea! says, 'Maybe it's missing for a reason? It's always good to talk to Sandra first...'

Nepon says, 'Hehe and it gives me something to do.'

Sandra says, 'It's really best to let me know what you plan to propose so that I can ok/not ok it before you spend tons of time working on it.'

LadyAce says, 'The last app deadline was March 1, the next one will most likely be Sept 1.'

Ea! says to LadyAce, 'Yeah, but I'd hate to see an area built with areafile v1 format... I'm not even sure if we can still load it...'

'I mean create it not actually build it,' Nepon says.

LadyAce says, 'All areas are simmply text files :) It's best to do your research, propose, then write the file.'

'Why shae frrr aprrt?' McDougan says drunkenly to LadyAce.

'Talk with me about the area idea before you get too into it,' Sandra says to Nepon.

'It takes about that long to get people really acquainted and part of things,' LadyAce says to McDougan.

'I'd be running orientations and training people constantly if i didn't have a 6 month break,' LadyAce says to McDougan.

McDougan says drunkenly to LadyAce, 'Oh, ye mean shae ye dunnae hae immertalsh in varioush shtagesh o' trainin?'

Sandra says, 'And so those of us training don't get worn out ;).'

'Well, if you've ever hired new employees, you know it simply takes a while to do,' LadyAce says to McDougan.

'Wad ye accshept ladsh afterward wi' guid eshcushesh?' McDougan says drunkenly.

LadyAce says, 'No, the deadline is firm. They need to be interviewed, considered, voted on, taught how to be imms, etc We still hafta get our own imm work done, and very little gets done for the month or so that we're dealing with apps.'

'When's the list getting posted of who applied?' Visi says.

LadyAce says, 'I have a draft posting being circulated. Should go up later today or tomorrow, I hafta talk more with Zandy.'

Animal Training

'Well, that's part of pets...and it's not clear when that'll be done,' LadyAce says. 'Rufus started on it and found it was just too hard for the code we have.'

'Hoo long feer the airliesht pet incarrrnation?' McDougan says, slurring every word, to LadyAce.

'So it's put off for a good amount of time,' LadyAce says. 'No one's even working on the project atm.'

'Boot I'm a shepherd!' McDougan says drunkenly.

'Find sheep that will follow you,' LadyAce says.

'If I get a sheep tae mgarrden, will it shtay theer o'er thoshe foony reboot thingsh?' McDougan says, slurring every word.

LadyAce shakes her head. 'But we don't reboot all that often,' LadyAce says.

Housing Ideas

'It's something we'd like to add, but it's not being worked on right now,' LadyAce says.

'And another thing is there anything to type that tells you were your clan hall is?' Vendetta says in a courtly fashion.

'Booby traps that go off when someone fails breaking in would be nifty too,' Visi says.

Sandra says, '"clan hey, where's our hall?" ? ;).'

Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly, to Sandra, 'It doesn't work when none of your members know where it is.'

Sandra giggles. 'Someone has to know!' Sandra says.

Imm Applications

LadyAce says to Chunk, 'Yes.'

Zips

LadyAce says, 'Yes.'

'Cool i want some zips later ;),' Chunk says, with a playful tone.

Secret Exits

'Help exits :),' Visi says.

Vendetta says fluently to LadyAce, 'Just 20minutes ago I found a secret invis entrance down.'

LadyAce says, 'High perc, or just trying it. Often the room description indicates the location of secret exits. Or the look desc.'

'Ok. Unfortunately people have more important things to do than go to every room in the mud and look every direction and try every direction,' Vendetta says, in a voice smooth and courtly, to LadyAce.

LadyAce says to Vendetta, 'Well, then they have more important things to do than find out everything about an area, I'd say.'

Chunk says playfully to Vendetta, 'You havent explored an area fully til you have hit its dt!'

Mob Naming

'Nothing, really,' LadyAce says to Lemming. 'But if the person permas they won't be able to restart.'

'Okay. not to get ahead of myself or anything ;),' Lemming says.

'We don't try to do it, and avoid it when we can,' LadyAce says. 'But if your name is Samurai and we're building an area about samurais, well...'

'Not likely if I do actually get accepted,' Lemming says. 'Lots of people have names that, uh..yeah.'

'So hurry and make the character Samurai?' Straussy says.

'On the other hand, I named one of my invisible control mobs Ishtar, but did it in a way that didn't get in the way of the Ishtar char,' LadyAce says.

Klein Update

'Well, I sure hope so :) lotta my time used up if not,' LadyAce says to Theseus.

Theseus chuckles politely.

'It's coming along, i mostly need to do housing and finish up the repops for the mobs,' LadyAce says.

Theseus says matter of factly, 'Ahh.'

'Is there actually gonna be a Knight clanhall in there?' Theseus whispers matter of factly to LadyAce.

LadyAce says to Theseus, 'They can build it if they want to.'

'But it's not gonna be in the code?' Theseus says clinically to LadyAce. 'I overheard that from the knights.'

'No, it's not going to be in the code,' LadyAce says.

Chunk says playfully, 'Yeah that would be fair =P.'

'I want an area built for me too then!' Chunk says playfully.

'Not only won't it be in the code, it won't be in the area, either,' Ea! says.

Charmed Mobs & Crashes

LadyAce says, 'We'd have to be able to predict when the mud will crash :). If we could do that well, we'd fix whatever the problem was instead.'

Visi says, 'I mean have each charmie have a little tag on them of when they were made, and have it lower the number on its tag each tick.'

'Does the new system take longer to boot up?' Theseus says neutrally. 'The last reboot took over 20mins.'

'The last one booted like 5 times but kept crashing,' Visi says.

LadyAce says to Theseus, 'It actually takes much less time, like 1 minute.'

'That was the one I blew all my mana right before :P,' Visi says.

'Cuz I tried logging in for about 10 mins,' Theseus says clinically. 'I got past the password screen, and, at the menu to enter the game, I lost the connection.'

'Kept crashing because of a code problem that had to get fixed,' Sandra says.

New Liquids

LadyAce says, 'Like 10 different things.'

LadyAce says, 'White wine, mead, orange juice.'

'Och!' McDougan says drunkenly to LadyAce. 'Ye finally added mead!'

'Lotsa neato stuff,' LadyAce says. 'Sandra wrote the code for it.'

Visi says, 'Will they be in right away or wait on an area?'

'White wine!' Chunk says, with a playful tone.

Sandra says, 'Vodka, rum, mead, tequila, mt dew, ginger ale, root beer, cider, white wine, orange juice.'

'Liquids need an object for you to drink them out of,' LadyAce says.

McDougan says, slurring every word, to Sandra, 'That shoondsh familiar. 'Hey! I prooposhed tha!'

LadyAce says, 'I'll be putting some of 'em into OOC tho.'

'It's actually Cheyla and Charity's list of ideas,' LadyAce says.

Visi says, 'I mean I can buy a jug of ale or a skin of wine, but nowhere sells oj yet I know of.'

'Weel, I proposhed shoom o' them,' McDougan says drunkenly to LadyAce.

LadyAce says to Visi, 'The code update hasn't happened yet, either.'

Visi says, 'I mean my question was to get oj do we need to wait for a new area that sells cartons of oj, or will it be added to some existing shops?'

'We can put it in existing items,' LadyAce says.

Sandra says, 'I'm leaving it up to the builders as to what they want to add/change.'

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