Posted by Barabas on 08/30
Not posting this as an append since its
long.
My thoughts on what I've heard of pkok:
I've pkilled for a fair amount of time and
have fought alot of the "current pkill community".
Most of you I've got alot of respect for. You're
good at killing and you know where to draw the line.
The rest of you are assholes. I don't know if it's
because you're still mentally immature, don't get
your medication on a regular schedule or are just
damn selfish egotistical people who only care about
their own enjoyment. And I don't care.
Now then.. some of you have pointed out that
this will "destroy the pkill community".
Nope, I don't believe that for a second. I think
it will lessen the surprise factor for snipers and
some mages.. but overall I think more people are
going to try pkill and see that it's just not that
bad. It'll allow people who want to rp pkill to
do only that which will ruin a hunting ground
for some pkillers but so what? Those people
don't want to play with you anyway. And so
you're going to get upset that you can't ruin
their enjoyment to make yourself feel empowered?
From: Barabas
Saturday, August 28, 09:21PM
Is this system abusable? Yes. More so than
normal pkill, No. You'll be responsible for your
actions more than you are now. Currently is you're
an asshole (and you know who you are) then you know
you can abuse people alot but as long as they're
getting something out of pkill they'll put up with you.
And even when they decide to quit, they have to
either throw away more than 80 hours of invested
time or do alot of mob killing. (And we know how
much pkillers like mob killing). With the new system,
if you're an asshole then nobody plays with you.
It seems to me that the only people who are
truly going to be pkill crippled are the assholes.
To the argument that "I'm so good nobody will
enable against me", maybe but I doubt it. Most of
the hardcore veterans will keep their lists
pretty broad. I expect new members will eventually
get good and will broaden their lists as they
gain confidence. The day I see people like Craven,
Nothing or Dune shut you out because they're
_afraid_ of you is the day I'll believe the
"I'm so good .. " argument.
From: Barabas
Saturday, August 28, 09:22PM
Which brings up another point.. retirees. Alot
of you have killers that you've retired. Don't
you want a chance to bring out the old killers
and see how they'd do in the new crowd? Pkillers
constantly complain that things change and screw
them over.. now, so what? You can have multiple
characters and try different things. I look
forward to fighting Agni again and would love
to break every one of Poetry's little bones
one more time.
As for the crossplay problems and things
of that nature, yeah they'll be there if people
can't grow up. You deal with them now. And either
1) You'll ignore it and try to have fun
2) you won't kill with that player or 3) that
player won't have any characters left because they'll
be warned and eventually deleted. Let the admin
staff handle those problems if they get that bad and
just concentrate on having fun with the game. Its
what you're here for..
Barabas BoneCrusher
From: Barabas
Saturday, August 28, 09:24PM
Now that said, I personally think it'd be cool to have a
"pkok check" command that would tell you if someone was
enabled against you ( possibly your group or your clan as well).
The command would be invisible to all but someone with real
high perception. So snipers could still "check" before aiming
and would also know when someone was looking to beat them down.
Barabas
From: Ronnie
Saturday, August 28, 09:53PM
Stated well. If you have a habit of being a cowardly dink who would
rather grow mildew in his hall waiting for someone to die to something
or you tend to pick on the weak, you wont have much fun. It could
effectively cure some of the assholes who are pricks just for the
sake of being pricks. I do have some questions tho, as to how looting
would be handled, and whether level limits would still apply?
-Ronnie, looking forward to killing some of his ex-wives -halo-
From: Davien
Sunday, August 29, 03:07AM
Nicely summed up Barabas.
I would also point out that most of the objections raised so far
are to points that have a remarkably remote chance of ever being
implemented. Even if they are, there will almost undoubtedly be
features to remove them or penalise the users. Plus people who do
abuse the system can be 'turned off'. I mean, they only get to do
it once right. I bet those 'assholes' in agreement with Barabas
will feel real good being the best player in a game of one. Maybe
they could arm a doppel and fight it?
Davien Holyoake.
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