Posted by Roark on 08/12
This post is a response to a number of events I have witnessed or
been involved in recently. For those who don't know, I am a third circle
cause mage pkiller, and one of our fundamental spells is immolate.
the problem is, in pkill, imho, it simply does way too much equipment
damage. For example, when I killed Cecil, I used 4 immolates. This
scrapped a colour strung kraken belt, and took over a dozen items to
minorly/moderately or worse. In my opinion this much damage actually
amounts to a disruption of gameplay, because one pkill fight of this type
effectively caused so much eq damage that the char would have been
pretty much unplayable until they got tf. For this to come from one fight
is, I think, a major problem. I know of another cause mage who scrapped
someone's earring in 2 rounds. The list goes on. We all know stories
of this kind.
Now I love the immolate spell, and as said, it is a basic pkill weapon
for me. I do not feel that I should have to back off from using it
because of the inordinate amount of eq damage it causes. But I do not
like scrapping people's eq at all, let alone hard earned strings. For
all these reasons, I would suggest that fire damage in pkill is looked
at with a view to reducing the level of damage it does to equipment.
I would be very interested to hear other people's opinions on this.
Howard Roark, who likes to burn down badly designed houses.
From: Cecil
Friday, July 16, 05:49PM
This is an ongoing problem, especially when strings are involved.
I didn't duel with Roark in order to get my equipment damaged that
bad, or to lose a string. I dueled him to have fun, why should i lose
equipment and strings in a duel?
Cecil, the Dark Knight
From: Kae
Monday, July 19, 05:33AM
I do believe it was my pkiller who had the unusual experience
of watching earrings go poof in one (not two) immolates.
Personally I think that fire damage needs to be looked at as well,
though it is probably among the more difficult things to balance
out. On one side, it is a very efficient spell, especially in
pkill. On the other hand, it's no fun being forced to lie low
until you can convince somebody to fix your gears. I won't even
start to think of how annoying it must be to lose strings to it.
It seems to me that, as Roark suggested, it is not the damage
that the character receiving the immolation gets that needs
adjustment, but the damage which it does to equipment. I'm not
certain how exactly the code differentiates between equipment
damage and person damage, but I'm sure our competent coders can
work something out.
-Kae
[Standard disclaimer regarding personal views, not speaking for
the staff officially, yada yada yada].
From: IggyPope
Monday, July 19, 10:56PM
Ok, let's see here, you fight a kick-butt fire-flinging 3c
cause mage, he tosses a super-burrito-with-extra-jalapenos fireball
at your head, and you think your quip's not gonna get wasted?
Frankly, there's one solution to this: Don't fight 3c mages
who are firebugs. Youse plays wit' fiyah, ya's gonna gets boined.
-wink cecil-
BURN!!
From: Stewart
Wednesday, July 21, 01:58AM
i just gotta mention my opinion on this
my last pkiller was a 3c cause mage. immolate was one
of his main weapons in pkill.
i may get flamed (bad pun i know) for say this, but...
scaping eq is fun!
i once scraped two senoi earrings and a boarshead
helmet in one fight. 3 once in a life time items!
anyway...
Stewart
From: Lancelot
Thursday, August 12, 05:29AM
Yeah scraping equ may be fun when you dishing it out
but try let it happen to you, its not very fun
I have seen a strung phantoms tattoo get scraped with two immolates
fire damaged really needs to be fixed
Lancelot, -hides his equ from nasty immolates-
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