Hello fellow Citizens of LegendMUD! =)
I write to you today about something that has been troubling me
a lot these days in the hope we can have a discussion without too
much emotion and defensiveness, here goes -crosses fingers-:
Lately I have witnessed repeated advertising by clan members (perhaps
even GMs for all I know) asking people to join their clan, or at times
just announcing their clan's name, in bright colors and often all CAPS.
While I enjoy the clever use of characters and color schemes, the ads them
selves bother me a great deal. The reason for this is that I feel the boa
rds themselves would be a more appropriate place for an advertisement.
Now I know I have opened myself up for flaming here, call me a snob if you
wish, but at least hear me out first please. We all need to get along her
here even, and respect each other. The Immortals have been trying their
best to get PK and non-PK to mesh better. Most of the ads I see on chat
come from PK clan people, and we non-PK (I hope I can speak for
a few non-PK people on this) do not really care to see your advertisements
If a non-PK character is a low enough level to be able to join the PK
community, there is a lot of reading available about becoming PK and
plenty of discussion on the War Board as well. If a PK character is
looking for a clan to join, would they not be reading the War Board regula
rly already? If they don't they are probably not even experienced
enough to be joining a clan anyways. The better PK characters read
the War Board at least once per time playing. Now if a clan were
to put together a very well thought out advertisement, with neato colors
and a great banner, would they not want to display it for everyone to see?
Not just the people on at the moment? The War Board is a great semi-perma
nent place to display your clan pride!
Ok, I step off my soap box now and once again humbly ask that anyone
who has been using chat for recruitment, please stop. Put your talents
in color usage to some all-encompassing beneficial use, make a pretty
one-line friendly message gretting your fellow citizens! =) You have the
talent, now be a friendly citizen and let's all get along. I also ask tha
if there is ANYONE at all reading this that agrees with me on any point
please append now. I feel alone on this issue and I need your support. I
ask that if you intend on slamming me about this issue, please drop me
some hate-mud-mail. I will read it and respond to your well thought out
arguments in person, and in kind.
Thank You to anyone who has read this, and happy palying everyone =)
Sibwarra
humble Druid/Create Mage
citizen of LegendMUD
p.s. yes I also have a PKill character on the MUD
From: Elisa
Saturday, July 03, 12:46AM
I agree with Sibwarra for the most part. While the spam does not annoy me
(except the obnoxious right red), I don't think that the clans are
serving the purpose of advertising very well. Unless they are trying to
show us that their clan's purpose is to spam chat! However, the use of
colorful one line messages to greet eachother does seem rather fun.
Elisa the urchin
From: Elisa
Saturday, July 03, 12:51AM
I meant to say they are NOT serving the purpose of advertisement very well
-blush-
From: Buren
Saturday, July 03, 01:06AM
I for one don't think chat is the greatest spot for ads, but they only
really get to me when half a clan has triggers set up to spam the same thi
thing (often in different colors) whenever a clanmate does so.
This leads to 5-10 lines of spam. Although my screen shows 50 lines, it's
almost enough to fill a screen between the spam and the prompts afterwards
I think the best solution is to keep ads to boards and to save the
loudness for greeting each other. This serves the purpose of recognition
while preventing the dreaded 10-line chain reaction (followed by spams
from opposing guilds then spams to protest the spam)
Take with a grain of salt and a glass of water
-Buren
From: Barabas
Saturday, July 03, 09:08AM
I can see how you can get annoyed. Let's make a deal, we'll
stop spamming chat with ads when non clanned folks stop
spamming info with trigger messages. Deal?
Barabas
From: Cassia
Saturday, July 03, 11:27AM
Trigger messages on info are usually appropriate to the context of
somebody dying or levelling at least. The clan ads usually have no
relationship to anything going on in the game.
I don't think theres anything wrong with promoting a clan over the
channels now and again but the allcaps spam is getting out of hand.
The last I heard, using allcaps was against the rules. I realize a
message in caps might pass if its short, but I personally find it
irritating and it wouldn't encourage me to join a clan that needs to
use a cheap attention grabbing technique or spam to get attention.
From: TheThing
Saturday, July 03, 11:31AM
well Barabas, I can assure you i will never spam info. I can't
even get online long enuff to get exp without dying
i think agreements like what you state are good, comprimise is what
this MUD needs more of, ke can kill each other and still get along, right?
From: Gaidal
Sunday, July 04, 09:57AM
Well I'm very sorry of people are getting annoyed but....
The advertising worked very. We get at least one new app a day. Also,
last I heard the channels were for everyone to use not just the non
clanned players. If you dont want us to use them because it does not
pertain to you I dont want to hear you chatting unless your talking
directly to me either. It just doesn't work that way. As far as spam
goes I can understand why you dont want so many messages at once.
However if you hadn't noticed it about half of the spam now comes from
non clanned players that made triggers to emulate ours. I am not
going to say we are completely innocent. We have repeatedly hit our
triggers in the past and I apologize for the spam it caused. I will not
stop using my clans greeting or our advertisement however since I know
of no rules that it breaks and it is a great benefit to my clan. As
long as we don't do it every 5 minutes I think that you can all handle a
line or two of color every once in a while.
Gaidal Cain
From: Ryu
Sunday, July 04, 02:50PM
My clan is NOT PK and it likes to advertise its banner.
And we also do NOT use bright colors, they are very dark.
If you are going to criticize clan banners, at least do it right.
Ryu, GM of Unholy Alliance
UNHOLY ALLIANCE
From: Cecil
Friday, July 09, 01:17AM
I think the last time I actually sat down and read the warboard was before
America was discovered, so I hardly read it every time i play, it's too ti
time consuming and i'm lazy :p
Cecil.. the Dark Knight
