Posted by Jonathan on 07/02
I'm writing on here because i think the reason behind my ban is
more than pathetic. I'm sure they could have come up with a much
better reason than why i am banned at this time. The reason i was
first givin was that i whined to much about the multi wars i had
with tanzer. Seeing now that the multi war was over hear-say i
feel it could have been prevented. Nonetheless i permad to stop
the war and then i was told i am banned. Why not tell me before
i chose to perma to end a messy war then telling me after i
remade a character? have no clue...
In fairness i have had a bad last year in pk but not bad enough
in my eyes to be banned for it. Yes i am guilty of whining about
a multi war so sue me. Dont ban me for it though. Everyone has
times where they just get frustrated enough to whine in pk, and
yes it happens to us all. Even as of late a lot of pkers have
been remaking because of things happening around here. So why let
them remake and not i? have no clue...
Yes i admit to also having an ooc problem a year ago. It wasnt
all my fault either. I had a player want to kill me because of
a marriage ic. The only thing i could do about that was talk to
immortals in which i guess is whining too. And i had another time
where i was in trouble with a mortal over what they had said on a
public board about me and i went after that player for it. For
some strange reason it was harassment to kill a player talking
bad about me on a public board. If that is also against the rules
then yes im guilty of that too.
Just because some players i have hung around lately have been
a little on the "jerk" side doesnt mean i act this way all the
time. I should be given my chance to prove i am not this way all
the time too. Not just banned for "whining", it can be justified
by letting me prove myself and show that it wasnt me but the
reaction of frustration with certain players at those times. I
would like this looked into and would like feedback from anyone
who would like to put it in better words than i have if you can.
I just think being pk banned for whining while others are doing
much much worse or could be is a bit out there.
since i never can really write and say excatly what i mean ill
append later.....
Jonathan
From: Sandra
Wednesday, June 30, 09:12PM
Let me correct a few things that you seem to have conveniently forgotten,
Jonathan.
First, you were given a 'last chance' already. You were told that you
needed to straighten up your act, or you wouldn't be allowed to pkill
anymore. In fact, you were banned from pkill until you proved that. It
didn't last though, did it? No, it didn't.
Your behaviour was fine for a while, and then it went right back to what
got you in trouble the first time.
No, you weren't banned for whining. You were banned because you can't seem
to handle the problems you create within that aspect of the game.
Therefore, you are no longer able to be involved in that part of the game.
Starting, or being involved in ooc/ic problems, multi-wars, perma-wars,
what have you, and then crying out for the staff to come and dig you out
is not going to get you anywhere.
The simple fact is this, if you can't play within the spirit of the rules,
then you can't play. Over the past year, you've proven that you can't do
that.
You were told, repeatedly, that you were no longer allowed to enable. You
were told when I removed your pk privledges the last time, that the next
time it would be permanent.
-Sandra
From: Jonathan
Wednesday, June 30, 09:18PM
This 'last chance' i was givin is true yes. But it takes more
than i to get myself in trouble. And trouble came to me i didnt
go lookin for it thanks. Just because things in the "spirit of
the rules" happens to get the short end in my pk lives doesnt
always mean it was my fault. Things came to me and i tried to get
immortal help to stop them but it seems all you wanted for was me
to fail and have more of a reason to ban me. Either you just dont
like me or you just rather punish me since i was on a last chance
effort to prove myself.....
From: Sibwarra
Wednesday, June 30, 09:48PM
I would like to know how the immorts can tell when a player
starts a new character that it is them other than trying to use the
same Character name over again. I have concerns about some Character
activity that I would like to see them banned from, but my concern
reaches to the player level and if they would just do it again with anothe
character.
er character.
Sibwarra
the often-clusless
clueless that is (and a bad speller to boot)
From: Goldberg
Thursday, July 01, 04:32AM
how can you ban someone from pkill permanently?
what makes you judge, jury and executioner in this matter?
deletions i understand ... but peramanently banning someone
from pkill? i can't even begin to comprehend that
Goldberg
From: Danar
Thursday, July 01, 08:22AM
Just envision it as a siteban, Goldberg, except half as much.
Danar
From: Diamond
Friday, July 02, 05:32AM
Err, Goldberg, in case you didn't know, the imms run this place.
Not in a bad sense, but they are, as you call them, Judge
Jury and Executioner. And you agree with that every single time
you log on. I fail to see why you are surprised, as I see very
few alternatives to handle matters.
Diamond
From: Amadio
Friday, July 02, 06:12AM
Judge, Jury and Executioner? I thought that was Tanzer's desc?
Hrm, unless...-gasp-...Tanzer and Sandra are the same person! And she
gave herself lots of warnings for fun!
But, um, seriously, like Diamond said, Sandra's head admin,
so I'm not sure why people are getting so bent out of shape about this.
What she did was within her right. It's interesting, I think if she had
merely -deleted- the character or sitebanned him for a month
or something, there wouldn't have been an issue, but heaven forfend
she not let someone pkill.
If it were up to me I would probably not let a lot more people pkill,
but that's another story entirely :p
Amadio
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