Posted by Wanderer on 05/05
ive been thinking about quoting for a while now..
i've made it clear before that posting with quoting is easier
then paraphrasing i've also made it clear that i've responded to
quoted messages that were quoted in a similar fashion to mine.
however, things i didn't really go into is that, yes, it's harder to
respond to a message that uses a lot of quotes. going over this
in my head, i've come to the conclusion that perhaps quoting
isn't such a great solution, at least in large quantities. for this
reason, i'm going to try to quote a fair amount less- sentences,
but not paragraphs type of thing.
From: Ghandi
Tuesday, May 04, 02:33PM
Something I never mentioned as it wasn't really the main
problem but it would be a lot more readable if you used
the standard method of quoting such as...
:blah blah blah blah blah...
:blah blah blah blah blah blah.....
:blah blah blah blah blah...
rather than
Not a big deal but you'd hear less complaints from me.
From: Wanderer
Tuesday, May 04, 03:15PM
since i'll be quoting a fair amount less, i think your bigger complaints w
since i'll be quoting a fair amount less, i think your bigger complaints
with me will vanish and you won't care much about the smaller details.
personally, i don't like reading the ":" and since i read my posts to
sometimes (to see if i've already made this or that point somewhere so i
don't have to tell someone what i've already told someone else.) i'd
rather do it with my little arrows. anyways :-p.
From: Amadio
Tuesday, May 04, 03:44PM
Man, I'm starting to think you have more character than I do.
From: Amadio
Tuesday, May 04, 03:44PM
Mmm, nifty typo there. That should be "characters."
From: Cianor
Tuesday, May 04, 09:13PM
The quoting was only a very minor issue for most people. I didn't
even really agree with the big outcry about it, seeing sometimes its
pretty helpful. Most people were generally annoyed by the content of
the posts. From my perspective, it seems that Jean, and all of his
assorted alts posting to this board live in their own little world
well and truely removed from anything that a 'normal' person would
live in. While the philosophers out there point out this can be said
of anyone who has individual perceptions (ie, humans, not some insects)
Jean's one is slightly further removed from the mainstream than most.
My humble opinion of course, but in the entire length of his posting
I saw a negligible number of instances where he accepted someone elses
arguments over his own. When asking why rent was as it is, he was
given the reasons, based on debate over the years from the 15+
(closer to 30 I know, plus all the ones who have left) immortals who
have shaped this MUD. At this point he simply said that he thought
these reasons were no where near as good as his and that his ideas
should be implemented immeadiatly. This attitude of "I am always
right" is to me what was offensive. I am sure that most of the player-
base agrees here.
A little research would have found that very few ideas are being
implemented at present as the limited resources of the coders are
being used to promote the skilltrees idea. Further research would
have revealed that this is going to be a fundamental change to the
way that the MUD is played, and that a very good time for the this
issue to be raised would be in the time after skilltrees are
introduced, and the system is being fine-tuned.
I have no trouble with people posting to this board, nor really
with quoting as long as its constructive, nor even with argument here.
Some of Jeans ideas were actually quite good, but the attitude
of the responses to the reasons that things are the way they are
isn't. They got this way because it has been found to work over the
years. They are proven and true. While this does not mean that
they are right, or should not be changed, it does mean that the
game works they way they are, and we can survive until all of the
major improvements to the game are completed. Who knows, these
other matters may even render the proposed changes obsolete.
Cianor.
From: Lethargio
Tuesday, May 04, 11:46PM
the most annoying thing that I found of the quotes was because Jean
responded to individual sentences, picking on how they were wrong
rather than responding to the 'idea' of the post.
It wouldn't have been so bad if he responded to what the person was
saying, but because he was bickering on individual phrases it seemed
as if he was almost ignoring the whole point of why the person
was posting in the first place. (Well, that what it seemed to me,
anyway.)
From: McDonald
Wednesday, May 05, 12:05AM
Agree leth.
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