Posted by Thyme on 04/26
ok, I'm a bit annoyed by this. I found out today my door is phasable.
I have no real problem with that, my prob is with spending over 300k
to purchase this house, and paying near 5k per day when there
was no option to find out about what kind of door this house
came with in the first place. and the fact that I have
yet to see or hear about any type of aftermarket door, unlike
locks, which you can buy damn near anywhere. I think this gives
a GREAT advantage to one char type.
I have tried (with 100 dex) to unpick locks again and again.
out of about 200 tries (seriously), I've succeeded once.
if people can buy locks that prevent me from picking, why can I
not buy a door to prevent them from phasing? again, you
are shafting snipers, and putting them at a MAJOR disadvantage.
I would like to see all doors that are succeptable to one of
the three ways of getting in them, that way there is this
little thing called balance. it's not like mages don't already have the ad
advantage already.. wfw is insane, but I won't even start
on that subject, I'm too pissed ATM.
Thyme. (just wants pk balance)
From: Yi
Monday, April 26, 05:33PM
Hrm, when housing went in, I remember people saying that snipers
were going to be overpowered because house doors couldn't be
phased/broken. Now that they apparently can be, I guess the tides
are turning. I'm not denying that clanhall doors should be more
pickable than they are now. I'm also not denying that they should
be phasable and breakable. -But- how can you claim that pk balance
is so infinately screwed up, considering a few things. First, it's
still incredibly risky for mages to try to phase into a house.
If the mage loses the fight, chances are decent he won't get his
eq back. And I haven't heard of too many mages that can cast
phase naked. Second, consider that it's still easier to get into
houses now--no matter what type of char you are--than it was to
get into clanhalls before housing. Then, unless you had a traitor
in the clan, there pretty much wasn't any way you were getting in.
Now, it -is- possible, although unlikely. And I think it should
stay unlikely, otherwise, what's the point of having a house at
all?
Just a few disconnected thoughts.
Yi.
From: Marauder
Monday, April 26, 05:38AM
Your point is about little mages being able to phase in, and little sniper
people being able to pick locks. Wow, now I want to complain about second
circle mages not being able to get into houses, also, my druid cant, and l
lets not forget tanks, and surgeons, and etc etc...
At your rate, everyone should be able to break into houses to create a sen
se of "balance". First, I'll augment the door, then, I'll operate on it..
yada yada, balance schmalance, TWO charac types can break in... wow...
Marauder - The Ramblings of Madness
From: Mac
Monday, April 26, 06:45AM
I can imagine break door works as well as phase on these
particular doors, a good deal of character types can use
that. I don't think the problem is balance though, who
can or cannot get in. If any types can get in, there
seems no point in having a house. I'd rather rest in
a safe room. Pick lock may work but very rarely, I feel
safe enough behind 2 100/100 doors to rest up while AFK.
From: Ishtar
Monday, April 26, 10:05AM
I am also concerned about this change to doors, and the lack of
information regarding the ability to purchase protection against
phasing and break door. I don't really believe this is a balance
issue. I am a mage and have found that I can apparently phase
through a phasable house door on the first attempt with 100% success.
The welcome board message does imply that there are levels of
phasability but I would like some info on whether this is a fixed
feature which comes with the house (and if so, it should be possible
to find it out beforehand) or can be changed buy purchasing a better
door. I hardly see this as a change 'favouring mages' since mages
now have to worry just as much about the consequences of other mages
being able to walk through their doors as though they essentially
aren't there.
As to the point about the risk faced by a pkenabled mage phasing into
a house; well its pretty much the same risk faced by a lock picker,
since the time taken for a second successful pick is probably about
equal to the time it would take a mage to gather the gear they need to
phase ;). However, this assuems that people only try to get in during
a fight. I'm more concerned about the fact that somebody can phase in
to an empty house or clanhall at any time when the owner/s are not online
and help themselves to whatever is there (in the case of pkill) not to
mention reading the clanboards, in complete saftey. A phasable door may
as well be left open for all the good it does. I do see one function of
a clanhall as providing at least a moderate degree of security for
posessions and private clan messages; while it should not be completely
safe, it should take a very concerted effort to raid a hall and should
be, as was stated, unlikely.
This might be pegged as another pkill whine, however, I imagine many
unclanned also don't want mages strolling casually through their locked
doors and snooping around out of idle curiosity either, again making the
door virtually redundant. I hope this isn't going to be the case, and
would appreciate some more information about this change.
Ishtar
From: Thyme
Monday, April 26, 11:10AM
hrm, that's twice I've appended to the wrong board #.
please see board 35, appends one and two, I don't
feel like rewriting them.
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