Posted by Lessa on 04/14
It seems a little odd to me that the warning given for OOC harrassment is
more severe than warnings given for lewd behaviour and sexual
harrassment.
So saying, 'You are obviously just an immature kid releasing your teen
angst on Legend' is WORSE than saying, 'Hey baby, you sexy -expletive-
I wanna -expletive- you in your -expletive-!'
It seems a little unbalanced to me. Thoughts?
From: Sandra
Monday, April 12, 02:58PM
Not hardly.
Reread it:
OOC harassment(rude comments against the player of a character, a pattern
extreme rudeness against a specific char or player that carries across
chars, real life threats against a player).
and
general harassment(sexual or leud comments, sexual or
racial slurs), intentionally placing someone over rent, multiplaying,
swapping equipment
Though depending on the comment, a 'sexual harassment' could be constitute
as OOC and punished accordingly.
From: Luna
Monday, April 12, 03:27PM
Those people should be kicked of Legend altogether!
From: McDonald
Monday, April 12, 11:55PM
But they are only hypothetical people Luna :P
From: Luna
Tuesday, April 13, 03:14AM
Nuke em all! =P
From: Diamond
Tuesday, April 13, 07:46AM
Since the talk is about warnings anyway, I would like to
ask if it would not be appropriate with a small rule
change. It is illegal to swear on channels and in yells, but
not in the room one is in. That doesn't seem to make much
sense. Shouldn't it be changed, so swear words is illegal
no matter where they appear?
Diamond of Kleinstadt
From: Mac
Tuesday, April 13, 09:49AM
It depends on the individual what punishment is dished out.
When I decided to quit I harrassed a couple of people and was
site banned and had all my characters deleted.
When I was caught exchanging eq between characters both were
deleted. Some people get warnings, some get shafted, it's
just the way it is. -shrug-
From: Sandra
Tuesday, April 13, 11:26AM
No, most get the same punishment unless they're repeat offenders.
We're not going to just slap you on the wrist each and every
time we catch you doing something illegal.
From: Mac
Tuesday, April 13, 01:06PM
I still missed out on my slap on the wrist! I was given
a good whooping (ie. deletions) the first and every other
time I broke the silly rules.
From: Mice
Tuesday, April 13, 02:33PM
In response to Diamond's post (since noone else has responded to it):
I disagree wholeheartedly. I can be sitting in a room with someone I
know well - possibly talking ooc, and, just as an example, am extremely
angry with someone. We're talking in says and talks (maybe to use
moods), and are swearing. Both of us are comfortable with the profanity
but then you walk into the room and are "subjected" to some of these
"harsh" words. What then? If profanity were to become illegal via
talks and says, it would then go to being illegal in group tells,
and gosh, there have been times where I've been SO extremely upset,
I would then be rendered unable to explain my feelings except with a
couple of pathetic screams and ARGHs. Really doesn't help me vent my
anger at that point when all I may need to say is a single 4-letter
swear word.
As in tells, you can simply ask the person to refrain from using that
sort of language, or - if it's somewhere YOU don't need to be - leave
the room. We've got enough restrictions regarding language as it is, why
implement more? Why can we not be mature about the fact that profanity
gets used whether we like it or not and either a) live with it and turn
your head when it is used and let it slide by, or b) remove yourself
from the situation?
Mice's player
From: Diamond
Tuesday, April 13, 03:23PM
I agree with you, Lady Mice, except that very young
people play on this mud too. And instead of saying "Hey, you
just need to leave the room", why not stop profanity?
It is easier, it is more polite, and noone will argue if
someone uses it in private tells. Why do people need to
say it out loud, when a thing like tells or gtells exist?
I can easily imagine young people being disallowed to be
here due to the language, if for example their parents wants
to see what a mud is, and all they see is profanity.
If you think it is to be allowed in rooms, how come you do not
think it needs to be allowed on channels?
It is kinda the same thing. And noone said anything about
grouptells, as long as all parties in the group agrees
that profanity is being used.
And since "being mature" has come up...Why can't people just
be mature enough to avoid profanity?
Diamond of Kleinstadt
From: Craven
Tuesday, April 13, 06:10PM
Maybe to some people "profanity" isn't immature. Personally its just
another way to express myself, and I laugh at anyone who is offended
by it. Yea, I'm not very old, I'm 18, and ya know what? I knew
all the swear words I know now when I was 7. Its not like they've
never heard them, and like Mice said, if you don't want to hear em,
leave. I personally am sick of all these whiners that bitch at the
slightest thing. Its freakin swearing, and your bitching about it
disrupting the game and being immature blah blah blah. I have one
thing to say, I don't impose my views and opionons on your and I damn
sure am not going to accept you imposing yours on me. The server
is based in the good 'ole USA, and in the USA, EVERYONE'S rights are
considered, not just yours. When you can easily remove yourself or
ignore it instead of trying to live in a fantasy land where everyone
is a happy little elf and no bad ever happens, I think you should
just ignore it or move. You have your freedom, stop trying to take
mine. (and anyone else who swears)
-Craven
From: Mac
Wednesday, April 14, 02:28AM
Well yeah, I doubt it offends anyone but some seem concerned
about young ppl seeing it and others don't want their parents
to see it. I fall into the 2nd category which is why I don't
let them near the computer. :)
From: Diamond
Wednesday, April 14, 09:39AM
Agreed, Craven, you have a right to say what you want. But
is there some kind of major problem involved in typing "tell"
or "gtell" instead of "say" or "talk"? Swear words can cause
young people to abandon the mud/being forced off by parents or
whatever, so why not just avoid it?
You never thought about why news-speakers don't swear like
you do? Having the right to do something is not the same as
abusing that right.
Diamond of Kleinstadt
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