Posted by Mandrake on 04/14
I was just thinking (after trying to go OOC with
detect hidden), wasn't the original idea regarding
OOC and spell affects etc to stop people taking
this route to avoid dying to bleeding or poison?
I mean, having to rent to read certain boards
seems silly, especially since these spells are
of no use OOC (apart from perhaps invis and hide).
Who cares if you can detect invis/hidden/illusion
or even fly OOC. -shrug-
From: Sandra
Thursday, April 09, 05:55PM
The reason that spells like those aren't allowed ooc is because
people were using ooc to preserve spells, which isn't what ooc is for.
From: Mandrake
Thursday, April 09, 06:40PM
Hmm, but what's there to gain from that?
Ie. preserving spells where you can't do anything.
Sure it allows you to go AFK without wasting
spells/time etc but that's more of a convenience
than anything else.
From: Himura
Thursday, April 09, 07:50PM
if that's the case, you shouldn't allow ppl to come ooc who have
timed eq.
i mean, it does seem rather harsh to prevent a whole mess of ppl from
entering ooc, but those that gain most from the stuff you want to stop
are those with timed eq who can't afford to sit around in the open.
From: Oxalis
Friday, April 10, 03:51AM
Keep the timer ticking on equip while in ooc, and justify it in
terms of realism by a mob which takes it and places it in a locker
before allowing you to enter, and gives it back when you leave =P
From: Solomon
Friday, April 10, 10:41AM
Certain spells were prohibited from ooc because pkillers were spelling
themselves up with magic sinks, armor, etc and then waiting ooc until
somebody came on they wanted to kill, then swooping in for the kill.
This was especially easy when it was possible to see the whole who list
while you were ooc. You could sit in ooc invisibly and just lie in wait,
which was an abuse of the ooc area. This is why you can't go ooc with
certain spells on you.
From: Himura
Friday, April 10, 12:44PM
you can STILL go ooc with sink and armor, and whois somebody STILL works i
n ooc.
invis doesnt work, see invis doesnt work, but you can simply still wait th
e spells on you.
i don't see how you meant to fix it when the main spells you gave as
sons are the ones that still work
From: Mandrake
Friday, April 10, 12:52PM
Yeah, seems the only spells you can go OOC with are
ones you say are meant to stop you going OOC, all
arguments so far have been flawed but still, I
probably shouldn't have brought it up as you're
most likely to disallow all spells despite their
being little sense in it.
From: Ishtar
Saturday, April 11, 04:36AM
There would be problems with stopping us going ooc with some spells.
For example, some mages cannot move without a strength spell on. You
would not be able to move around ooc to read the boards.
Some go around all the time with sink and armor as a precaution. I do
not know if this is why they are allowed, but there would be a serious
problem if spells not being removed by renting out is implemented as
you would have to choose between not being able to use ooc for
legitimate reasons or not wearing your defensive spells (for clanned I
mean).
The ones people usually wear all the time are usually the 2nd circle
ones that last a relatively long time and have lower mana cost. 3rd
circle spells often cost more mana and last less time due to poorer
cast levels so they are the ones people would cast for special purposes
and want to preserve. Maybe it should be kept that 3rd circle (and
druid equivalents) are the ones not permitted ooc?
Ishtar
From: Laurana
Saturday, April 11, 11:24AM
It shouldn't be necesarry for a mage to use strength to move arounf ooc ma
From: Himura
Saturday, April 11, 11:32AM
I don't know of many people who cast 3rd circle spells for pk purposes,
that can be cast onto them for special reasons, with the possible exceptio
of stoneskin, which probably doesnt happen too often anyway.
(forgot vanish, but that could just as easily be brewed)
Anyway, i see how ooc prevents you from sustaining life while bleeding,
poisoned, etc, but it's silly that spells like fly are not permitted while
armor/sink/strength/bless etc are all allowed in ooc.
The way i see it, those are the spells ppl would most likely want to
preserve, since unless you time those spells meticulously, you'll always
end up with less than full mana when you recast them.
I think, for the spirit of ooc not turning into a spell-freeze arena, as
well as a huge old-style bag, might as well ban ANY magical effects and
timed eq from ooc.
Or make it like the plains of ill-luck, where you can lose hps, lose ticks
but not regain anything.
From: Wraith
Saturday, April 11, 12:33PM
Currently, it is not possible to check for all spell effects before
transferring characters into the OOC lounge. Once we are able to, I'm sure
this problem will be rectified.
- Wraith
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