Posted by Mavado on 03/16
Just a thought here, don't want to seem like I'm whining.
But if I can't abuse winpy max with kick, I don't stand
a chance in pk as a dex anthing. It's a vital part of
everything dex stands for, quick and accurate, but
never hitting hard.
Anyway, guess I'll convert to str for now, or archive.
Reminds me of taking away spam gear, honestly.
Chars will disappear from this, alot of dex chars.
In all honesty, I can't see a single reason to make a dex
char at this point. Dex can't be expected to stand toe
to toe with someone who hits twice as hard, or someone
who has three times the hit points.
Just my two cents.
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From: Xylander
Sunday, March 16 2003, 04:46AM
I dont think it will make too much of a difference in the long run to a
lot of people, con snipers and the like will live with this change just
fine, what it WILL do is kill the subclass types..
i.e surgeon snipers, aiding snipers, 2c dex druid types
basically any dex person who relied on fleeing then healing due to their
incredibly fragile hit points.
But as Craven has said, things come in waves, this change will oneday
be superceded by a change to make create mages totally useless and
something else invincible.. perfect balance is a myth.
Bite the bullet and adapt time AGAIN i guess.
And yes Im bias as all hell because im a 2c Dex Cause Druid so I have
tiny hit points and relied on wimpy :p
But like Craven I play almost everything, just time to play them more.
love,
Xylander.
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From: Wraith
Sunday, March 16 2003, 04:53AM
It seems to me that many people are using strategy when they mean
tactics. Strategy is when you kill all the trans mobs and then begin
stalking your prey in PK. Tactics is deciding whether to stun your
opponent or kick them while they are down.
There was a suggestion on the discussion board last year or the year
before to change the way skill lag is distributed. It seemed like a
good idea at the time since it would make combat more interesting.
Characters could take a skill lag before their attack so that they
would be able to flee more quickly afterwards. Or, combine two skills
to make a quick and brutal attack; having two rounds of lag before
the first skill, no lag before the second and two more rounds after
the second. If I remember correctly, though not entirely on topic.
It was suggested on the news board that instead of downgrading PC
abilities, they be upgraded instead. What kind of upgrade would have
been more appropriate than this change to fleeing? If there is a downward
spiral, something I don't believe, then wouldn't there also be the
reverse? PC abilities continually spiralling upwards until every task is
too easy?
- Wraith
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From: Heart
Sunday, March 16 2003, 05:39AM
Not easy, but rather changes to add some fun into a sub-class, instead
of taking it away.
Since as Xylander pointed out, the sub-classes that rely on fleeing
then healing in pk, is pretty much toasted. It pretty much forces
people to abandon those classes for pk, or even mobkillings.
Then again, I could never understood what wimpy is good for beside using
it when you are extremely lagged. Since as it was pointed out before, if
you are clear the skill lag, typing flee will save you one round of being hit.
hit
It would have made more sense to cut the skill lag down to half if one
uses wimpy. But then again, bad changes never go away...
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From: Sana
Sunday, March 16 2003, 06:47AM
Yeah upward spiral might get kind of boring if it goes too far. But I
would rather be mad that my dex druid kills blackbeard too easy than be
made that at least five of my characters including the two ive been
leveling these last weeks are pretty much going to need massive eq changes
and even then are going to suck because their stats were distributed
inappropriately to be con freaks. But then again I don't mobkill for fun
and I already have a con-create ready and waiting for pkill soooooo. Guess
I don't care TOO much, other than sniper(real sniper, hp capping at 300 :P)
) has always been my favorite character type..
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From: Greshym
Sunday, March 16 2003, 09:16AM
someday I need to realize why this change is bad for anyone
honestly I don't feel a thing - yes I am a create but I'm a
dex create I still use my wimpy and stuff like I used to use it
but what do I know :)
- Greshym
ps: as said live with it and never rely on one thing :)
(also doing this one thing you solely rely on is boring :) )
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From: Drakkon
Sunday, March 16 2003, 12:37PM
i just think with this big blow to wimpy, snipers should have been
given something else, instead of just ripping it away and saying
adapt, they should have given us some kind of tool or something so
that we can still survive at least somewhat
as of now i've been attempting to adapt but lost about 1.5 mil xp
in the process... i guess this adapting thing is a lot harder than
i expected it would be
-drakkon
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