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Posted by Nelson on 12/03

I was sitting there trying for-freakin-ever to phase into this chumps house and it occured to me that it would be nice if the ticks to try your door bypassin skill (phase break pick whatever) again were uh, lowered some? Like a 100 mind person needs 2 ticks to try again, not 8 or 10 or 100, whatever it is now, same for str and break dex and pick 'cause houses really shouldn't be the end all last word to a fight when someone runs to a house as is you might as well just rent and take a nap...and if its gonna take 50 tries to get in it might as well not be 10 minutes a try...well whatever this only really affects pkill anyways since it wouldnt matter if you picked the lock of someone who accepts nobody...pft. Anyways not whining for your chances of success to go up just yanno, i'd like to finish a fight while I am still under 30. Oh and uh, lets say however many ticks it is now is what it would take at 60 mind/str/dex and then it goes down for every 5 points or something |U6

From: Rowane Wednesday, November 27 2002, 02:09AM Why not whine for chances to go up. It makes sense. If you're fiddling away at a lock with your picks, the more time you spend at a door, the chance should increase that you will pick it. The same should go for break door and phase door. If you're slamming away at a door, the strength of the door to withstand your assault, whether magical or physical should decrease as you spend more time. But I say |15increase the time it takes to pick,break,phase|U6 between failed attempts but each time you try, increase your chance of success. People with natural bonuses for break,pick,phase should have the highest chance of success. A limit should be placed on how high sucess rate should be. A person with the highest potential for a successful pick,phase,break would have let's |U6say 40% but their first attempts would be somewhere around the range of 10-20% rate of success. Then based off of that, some formula could be developed to accomidate those with medium or low potential for a successful pick,phase,break. I think a person with a low talent for any of these should never have more then a 20% chance. This could only be for pkill enabled players. Maybe the point of all this is to stop people from using housing as a safe-room. The imms already enforce this by having ticks stop counting down in housing, but why not go further. It would mean a change in lifestyle for some , keeping valuables would be very dangerous for pkill enabled and with that, it might be abused by some pick,break,phase bot. Something to think about. |U6

From: Stygian Wednesday, November 27 2002, 08:13AM fill chalice jug drink chalice yeah i think this should be changed, break door never works even with 100 str, it never breaks doors. People that are that strong should break through things like tanks. |U6

From: LadyAce Wednesday, November 27 2002, 02:26PM Is the "never works" feeling coming from doors at full break resistence, or are they actually unbreakable doors?

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From: Stygian Wednesday, November 27 2002, 06:40PM Well what is the klien gate? Cause my alts with 100 str hardly ever break that door. 10 times and they still breaking their shoulder. |U6

From: Teki Thursday, November 28 2002, 07:39AM One would think that Klein's gate was just a SMALL amount larger than your average door! |U6

From: Mandarb Thursday, November 28 2002, 11:27AM I'm sure it is, but breakdoor is the worst of the 3 ways of getting through a locked door. It fails more often then not, and it is the only one that costs hp and stuns you for a while. Not very fun. My strength fighters tend to learn pick lock with 40 dex and just ignore break door because its a waste of time. |U6

From: Paranoia Friday, November 29 2002, 01:14AM Yeah, break door freakin' sucks. What also sucks, I say is that that 40 dex char seems to have the exact same chance of successfully picking a lock as a 100/100 dex/perc sniper. Do dex/perc effect success rate on this skill at all? Sneak succeeds -=SLIGHTLY=- more often for my sniper chars than my 80dex fighter, and WAY more often than should happen, I will fail 5 to 10 sneaks in a row as a SNIPER. Just wonderin if dex/perc actually do something more than give you the option to learn the skill. Err.. I know the sneak skill actually works better for high perc/dex, but the success rate is fully rediculous. Jesus H tap dancing

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From: ing Christ, 9 failures before a sucess for a char with dex/perc as prime stats? ? Kick is quite similar along those lines as well. Why does it miss so much at 100 dex? But back to the door thing. 10-20% chance to suceed for a skilled char?! I don't know about formuals and stuff, but seems to me that's about the same chance ya got right now. If the tic counter till you can attempt again was lowered I wouldn't mind the chance to succeed bein' so crappy, or vice versa. From inside should be MUCH easier to pick/break/phase out, too. Which side of the door your on dosn't seem to affect it right now. And if it does, whoever made it so sucked at it! |U6

From: Akai_Hayate Tuesday, December 03 2002, 02:13AM I'd prefer to see the time limits lowered rather than your chance increasing after every try even tho that makes more sense, maybe they can do both, lower the timer to start and it raises as your chances raise so by the time your up to 40% or whatever the max would be, you are waiting waiting the same amount of time as you are for one chance now... but mainly, I don't feel like sitting outside some jerks house for 108 ticks anymore, it's just not fun. The way pk fights go these days anyways I don't know if I could take the excitement of a 2 hour wait.. Anyways Idealy I would like to see a 100 dex 100 perc yanno, God among thieves types, have like 80% to pick :P But I suppose that would be way too much since its so easy to get 100's here. Maybe we could just make a quest or config that gives you the HAS_ADD flag, and people with that could walk throu walls, or reverse recall thier opponants... |U6

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