Posted by Aegir on 10/05
ok, i have a prob with ring of fire spell.
well not so much a problem with the spell as is, per se, but in how
unfair it is to str fighters. one of the bonus' str fighters get is
weapons with multiple attacks (fork-tongue etc) and using something
like the hook, where damroll plays a large factor in damage done
so, when fighting a 3C cause mage they need cast 1 spell and stand there
to win. ya ya i know what your going to say, "blah blah don't fight
them then"
however, what about (yes more coding for Ea!) a
From: NEW
From: config option
that allows a player to turn off extra attacks for themselves. just like
the auto-rush flag.
each attack round, before the extra attack(s) go off, check the flag, if
its on skip over the extra attacks. this will allow a str or any other
char who wants to not use the extra attacks. again, options are good.
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From: Kaige
Wednesday, October 02 2002, 07:41PM
Might wanna consider finding a way to deal with fire for any
attack against you...
-Kaige
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From: Aegir
Thursday, October 03 2002, 08:02AM
maybe if there were some decent +stat / resist fire items in game.
which makes me think, why is resist/suscept always 33%? what about
a system where an item could have 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 25% first/cold/slash
whatever resist, and in your display it would add up all your resists
like your stats are added up, and then do the math:
you are slashed for 50 damage, but have 20% slash resist, you take
50
From: .8 = 40 damage
seems simple
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From: Herbert
Thursday, October 03 2002, 06:56PM
Ok as a user of ring of fire, i have used it in total perhaps 3 times
in a PK situation before, because trying to trap someone in a room,
before combat is initiated as is required by the spell, AND keep
the target there is next to impossible unless they are a 0 dex
person, in the case of multiple attacks if they ARE a 0 dex
person they need to re-evaluate their life anyway.
But the point I really want to make is this, its the hitters
CHOICE to use multiple attacks, there is nothing saying they
have to, they choose to use cheesey multi attack items and
weapons to get more damage and good for them, but they dont
have to, my hitter still uses an SSS and no hook and still
damcaps consistently.
Stop following the crowd and make your character the way you
want it not how you see everyone else make theirs.
If you want to fight 3c Cause mages then use a single attack
weapon or suffer the consequences, not that its going to
happen because the spell is near on useless in PK.
bah why the hell am I even bothering,
Herbert - Is Disgusted.
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From: Be'lal
Thursday, October 03 2002, 07:04PM
I agree with herbert with most, but ring of fire is very useful in
pk and I use it on people with multiple attacks constantly. Its
a choice you make, just like its a choice I make to use a piercing
weapon knowing stoneskin exists. Don't use if it you don't want
to. But, ring of fire is very useful, I use it constantly, so don't
be confusing the newbie herb :P
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From: Aegir
Thursday, October 03 2002, 09:53PM
i didn't suggest changing ring of fire, i suggested a config
option to turn off extra attacks. you say 'blah blah use a single
attack item' but with the rent on str weapons its not like you could
carry 2 around,
a 3c cuase mage can stand in a room, ring of fire and out tank
almost any tank by chain casting firestorm/watery death. whats
the point of being a tank if you can't tank?
also, when posting, plz try to refrain from first stating a spell
has little use and that you don't use it, and then say you think it
should not be changed, you only make yourself look foolish and/or
deceptive.
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From: Sandra
Thursday, October 03 2002, 10:00PM
I can say with a certainty that any such config won't go in. Why, you
ask? Well, aside from items that reduce damage from fire damage, you
can easily avoid ring of fire by NOT tanking.
Why would we code a config on weapons that you have a choice to
use or not, when you can simply flee a room away and nullify
the spell they're trying to use?
-Sandra
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From: Herbert
Friday, October 04 2002, 03:37AM
I never said I dont use the spell I said I dont use it
that much in PK, please check your facts.
I use ring of fire CONSTANTLY in mob kill because so
many mobs have multiple attacks and as a con cause i
would be mental to not use a great spell that is ONLY
effective against things with multiple attacks.
Which is why it shouldnt be changed, it was designed
for use against things with multiple attacks and is
used against them, and its only in recent times that
players have needed to worry about it being used on
them since the mass transition to cheesy weapons and
items.
Deal with it.
H.
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From: Craven
Friday, October 04 2002, 04:36PM
again...deceptive. It may only go off once a round, but at an average
of 10 or 15 a round, that adds up fast, even just once a round. you
don't have to have multiple attacks for it to be useful.
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From: Herbert
Friday, October 04 2002, 09:33PM
at 45 mana, id rather just immolate thanks
H
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From: Craven
Saturday, October 05 2002, 12:32PM
I'd rather just ring of fire, then immolate :P 4 rounds or more
and you've paid for it, and you didn't have to waste a fight round
for it either!
- Craven
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