Well, ya know, it seems that a lot of people feel that us pkillers
are the minority. Well I would admit that the majority of characters
logged in at any time are no accept all. However, if you look at the
characters in the Hall of Legends or whatever its called now, hmmm,
they are almost all pkillers. What does this tell you? Augustus,
Merc, Lori, Limerick, Morphine - I mean you are talking about not just
pkillers but epic pkillers.
If the game is deemed un-balanced (big if) then it should change. If
you cannot see that, then you are being selfish. I know that not
all stat configurations can be balanced, but the major types can
(and should be).
This is a social game, a role-playing game and a competitve (pk) game.
If you remove the pk or gimp it in such a way that its not fun then
the pkillers are going to leave. Maybe some of you want this? I
don't know. I think if all the pkillers left, and deleted all their
non-pk, rp-based characters that the game would suffer.
Look at what A. Kosminski said, he talked about a change to healing
while your pk timer is active. How does this affect you if you do not
ever pk? I just don't get it.
Ming the Merciless
From: Cumference
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 06:31PM
aggre'd
From: Zaba
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 07:19PM
what cumference said
From: Vampyr
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 08:31PM
pkillers rule the mud! -=duck=-
well almost :P
From: Blackthorne
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 09:10PM
Thats kinda funny. Maybe I dont have your type of mentality
but there is no way in hell i would ever try to convince myself
or try to convince others by making a comparison to Mercenary, Lori,
Morphine, or any other of the "epic pkillers" I think a majority of
them were from a different pkill system and it was back in the day
when pkill and rp went hand in hand. But then again Im not that
great of a pkiller so maybe its just my silly view ^_^
From: Vampyr
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 09:30PM
hahahaha a pkiller rp'ing?!?! Mercenary rpi'ing? morphine rp'ing?
i don't know lori... but i'm pretty sure neither of the above
mentioned rp'd with their pk :P
From: Ren
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 09:50PM
It's apparent you knew nothing of Mercenary if you think he didn't
rp. His rp was constant, and never broke until his death.
From: LadyAce
Wednesday, January 10 2001, 11:35PM
I wouldn't necessarily characterize -all- of the 'famous' people from
the old days as pk'ers. A lot of the ones who didn't do HOL became
imms, for one thing :). Also, I think players who are around enough
to develop characters are the sort who become famous, and they're also
the sort who tend to try every feature of the game. And just because
they were pk'ers, doesn't mean they were pk'ers like -you- :P
-LA
From: Bruson
Thursday, January 11 2001, 05:05AM
Just about all of those people had very specific RP, Vampyr. You
should take lessons from them.
Bruson et al.
From: Ming
Thursday, January 11 2001, 02:32PM
the point of my post was to get people to think about stuff from
another perspective. Cap Vand put up a post saying that balancing
the fight system for pkillers was going to 'hurt' his character.
well, in and of itself that is kinda selfish, but apparently he
was not the only one thinking it.
thats fine, like i said on chat, lets just change the old gear of
chars that are pk-enabled, let him keep his gear, let people
de-enable right before the p-files are changed, and make it so
the old gear becomes NO_DROP, NO_GIVE. and, if at a later point
you decide to pk-enable your char gets run through a script to
adjust your old gear.
i could care less if someone has 999 damroll and 999 hitroll and
2000 hp if they are not pkilling. i say great they can be the tank
hahah! but as soon as we are going to fight each other it
must be, it in fact has to be on a level playing field.
Ming the Merciless
From: Israfel
Monday, January 15 2001, 07:29AM
I haven't been an active pkiller in a while, so I won't touch that
topic.
I agree with Angharad that in mobkill, at least, experience and
knowing your capabilities is one of the most important things to being a
class A munchkin. I DT'd all my old gear a while back, I don't miss it
much, and I can still do all the same things my old-gear setup could.
I am NOT a majorly scary character -type-, but I do play what I am
quite well.
As for the characters that can solo SL/PD whatever. Heh. People get
kicks in different ways, Poetry. Hold the punches a moment and consider,
to me, pk could be tic-tac-toe with a computer, and figuring out
how a character with a certain combination of skills could solo SL (I
did actually get bored enough to do that) could be just my cup of
tea.
I've ditched old gear in favour of new on a few of my alts (mostly pk)
and made quite a few more with all new gear across a range of char-types.
(Many of these low dex) Yes, they still work. But for me at least,
many of them are not as -fun-. On the other hand, I'm one of those
people who get their kicks from seeing 6 consecutive damcaps, yes,
even I can get a sense that that's overpowered, but I like it anyway.
I suppose what I'm saying is that though I wouldn't object to the
sources of in-game healing being reduced, I dislike the idea of ALL
healing being reduced. I see a lot of extremely boring sleep-to-heal
if that happens. And sleep-to-heal is one of the reasons I could never
bring myself to make a pure fighter or sniper type. It isn't just the
lack of options. It's the sheer boredom involved in healing.
I'm also not sure I like the hit/dam/hp changes, but then, that could
and probably -is- just the near uncontrollable munchkin side of my
personality speaking, so...
Israfel
From: Israfel
Monday, January 15 2001, 07:39AM
Of course after all these years I haven't learnt to type. This append
is to the previous 'vocal minority' post.
