Posted by Dune on 10/20
Now that the "strength bug" is fixed, and everyone
that posted about it is satisfied.. (Sammael, Mandarb,
Craven, etc) lets get rid of OLD hit/damage eq!
I got rid of all mine, you guys could suck it up and do it too.
Dont you feel like a lamo when you beat someone
that doesnt have the huge advantage that you do? I
sure would... so POOF! The moment eq was changed, I
trashed all the old crap. I am a secure pkiller....
I dont need crutches, like all of you guys that
CLING to your old eq:)
So this is a calling to arms... lose the crutch and
start winning cause your good, not cause you can
wfw someone with 100 mind, hit with 100dex.. and
still have the damage advantage given to 95 strength.
And guess what? If hps eq gets changed.. the WHAM
Ill junk it all.
Dune (a real pkiller)
From: Bonk
Thursday, October 19 2000, 01:01PM
Nobody's gonna dump their hit/dam when they don't even
hit well with old eq. Dex mages can still tank str of
any sort when the str char is so full of hit/dam eq
they can't even use a chalice or rent vials.
See while old eq still exists, balance isn't going to
be adjusted to the current eq, you'll have to try and
convince all those that don't pk to junk their stuff too.
From: Dune
Thursday, October 19 2000, 02:28PM
my understanding is that strength now hits correctly...
is that correct Mandarb? I seem to remember you chatting
about how its all fixed.. or much better.
If thats the case.. then lets get rid of the old damage eq
Dune
From: Mandarb
Thursday, October 19 2000, 04:37PM
Its better then it was. After some more testing, I still don't
believe its "perfect" but its definatly not as bad. APperently
dodge was screwed up and thats why strength couldn't hit dex. But
today sandra and myself found another bug, so its a multiple problem.
It seems to me like bash is whats broke, but I'm told its not. It seems
to ME, that when I'm sitting I don't take near as much damage as I
should, but when I'm stunned man does it hurt :P I don't know, I just
know that its better. I'm willing to play my strength fighters in this
system, if that means anything. Even though he somehow gets wfw'd by
mages every fight. :P
From: Cumference
Thursday, October 19 2000, 11:37PM
wowowowwoowow str got adjusted? kewliez!!
From: Archmage
Friday, October 20 2000, 02:25AM
what's wfw? it seems so great...wish i did some of that. =P
Archmage Archmage
From: Shaidar
Friday, October 20 2000, 03:49PM
no way, I still only decimate on a stun headbutt with 49dam
there is somthing wrong there, especially when some
dex person runs up behind me and and hits harder on a standing
person than I do, i dunno, Im a little worked up atm
from dying to cian cuz I can only massacre or decimate
with almost the max amount of hitting power.
From: Ambria
Friday, October 20 2000, 07:13PM
I dunno, I seem to do fine with my 49 damroll. Ask Craven. ;)
From: Mandarb
Friday, October 20 2000, 07:53PM
the problem is basicly that strength has always been random, apperently
you people just have really short memories. If you have 50 damroll,
your not guarenteed to rip on a stun, your not even guarenteed to
decimate. just the odds of getting less then a decimate are real
low.
Look at it mathematically. With a strength weapon, normal one that
is, you hit 5 times for 1-18 damage on each hit. You then have
damroll factored in which is lets say 50% extra damage with 50
damroll. but if you roll a 4, 10, 3, 12, and 2 on your attack hits,
and we're going to assume you hit them all -snicker-, thats 31 damage
before bonus's, after wards 46 or 47. Thats still only a decimate. If
you got even lower rolls, your average is going to be even worse. And
you have to remember in pk that you do less damage. So basicly my
point is this. Strength always has been and always will be extremely
random. While I don't necessarily agree with it, thats the way it is :)
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