Posted by Kaige on 05/28
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PKOK & HEALING ISSUES
[PROBLEM ] You can't heal person who is only accepting you...
[RESPONSE] Fixed in the next code update. For the purposes of healing,
the code will assume you accept yourself.
[QUESTION] Must I accept the person I'm healing?
[RESPONSE] No. You have to accept the people the patient is accepting.
[QUESTION] I'm a pk druid, if I want to heal a clanmate, must I be on
his opponent's accept list?
[RESPONSE] No. The people on the person to be healed's accept list
have to be on yours. You might wind up on their accept list if they
decide they don't like what you're doing.
[QUESTION] Are they going to like me healing who they fight? Not likely.
[RESPONSE] We had a case the other night, where the person on the
other side decided they didn't want to attack the person healing
because they felt it would be suicide. But that was their choice.
[PROBLEM ] I got a 48 tick timer for healing, and i'm trying to reject
someone in no way related to the healed damage.
[RESPONSE] We don't track damage done in that manner. With the next
code update, healers will be able to heal patients without accepting
all after 10 ticks instead of 48 ticks. The healer's timer to will
also be set to either the patient's timer or the patient's clan's timer
(which ever is higher) rather than to a flat 48 ticks.
[QUESTION] I can heal anyone, as long as the person who did the damage is
accepted by me, correct? I can see that being abused.
[RESPONSE] Sort of. As long as you are accepting the same people as
your patient is you can heal them, or 10 ticks have passed since
their timer was rest.. We don't track damage done in that manner.
Before that 10 ticks, you also get a restrictive timer set on you for
healing a patient with a restrictive timer.
[IDEA ] Allow healers to heal, but automatically set their pkok
list to be the same. It would be too confusing to have to configure
pkok to leap to someone's assistance.
[RESPONSE] By having to configure it manually, the healer has a better
idea of exactly what risks he is taking. Healers will also be able to
heal patients without accepting all after 10 ticks instead of 48
ticks.
[QUESTION] Someone said healers basically had to be accept all?
[RESPONSE] They don't, but that may be the quickest and easiest way
to lend assistance before the 10 tick timer is up.
[IDEA ] If I reject someone, they shouldn't be able to heal my
opponents within 10 ticks of combat.
[Response] If you don't like that person healing your opponents, you
should accept and slaughter them or find someone who can. We don't
want to make it harder for people to heal in general.
[QUESTION] Do healers get a pk timer initiated when they heal someone
who is using pkok?
[RESPONSE] Yes. Unless it has been more than 10 ticks since their
patient's timer was reset. If the patient does not currently have a
restrictive timer, then the healer doesn't get one either.
[QUESTION] So if I heal a pk'er, whether I am healing mob damage or pk
damage, it effects MY timer?
[RESPONSE] If the patient has a restrictive timer greater than 10
ticks, yes.
[QUESTION] Instead of "pk damage" it's now "you have a timer?"
[RESPONSE] Since we do not track "damage" at all beyond the duration
of combat, it has always been if the patient had a restrictive timer.
[QUESTION] What about this scenario: There is a fight, one party logs
out for two days. He comes back with a timer that is greater than 10.
I heal him, so I get a timer, too? On top of the 10 ticks you can't
change from typing accept?
[RESPONSE] First of all, timers reset. They are not cumulative. But
yes, healing anyone with a restrictive timer will affect yours if
their has not counted down 10 ticks from when it was reset.
[PROBLEM ] I could go invis and heal, most people would never even
know who it was as detect invis isn't mandatory to carry with you.
[RESPONSE] They might become so if enough people use that kind of
tactic, and people who do will probably be found out and removed from
accept lists if it's not acceptable to people.
[PROBLEM ] It seems a pk healer will be too much of a pain to play.
[RESPONSE] We're working on making it less painful. Much of the next
code update is addressing these sorts of issues.
[QUESTION] If I heal myself after a fight, will my timer go up?
[RESPONSE] Nope.
From: Annika
Thursday, May 18, 06:40PM
I have two questions related to healing.
1. What if you want to heal someone immediately, without accepting all,
and they have accepted your alt. With the offline accepts being coded,
will be able to accept our own alts, for the purpose of healing?
2. In oldstyle pk, I would heal my opponent after the fight. It would be
nice to be able to do this, if you inflicted the dam, without having
to accept your opponents accepts.
Annika
From: Algeron
Friday, May 19, 12:51AM
how will empathy work with pkok?
From: Tarod
Saturday, May 20, 02:45AM
Empathy DOES work with PKOK. -Beam spell- I've wanted it to work for
so very long.
From: Kaige
Tuesday, May 23, 02:17PM
RE ANNIKA (these two were also answered at the 5/18 Q&A:
1. What if you want to heal someone immediately, without accepting all,
and they have accepted your alt. With the offline accepts being coded,
will be able to accept our own alts, for the purpose of healing?
Yes. The trick is if you log them on at the same time, you will get in
trouble for multiplaying.
2. In oldstyle pk, I would heal my opponent after the fight. It would be
nice to be able to do this, if you inflicted the dam, without having to
accept your opponent's accepts.
We don't track who did the damage beyond the duration of the fight. So by
then we don't know who did the damage. After 10 ticks though you can heal
them without having to accept all. Otherwise, same rules apply. Mob
combat does not set or reset the timer, so if they haven't participated
in pkill prior to the mobkill, you can heal immediately too.
If your opponent is only accepting challenges from you, we fixed the bug
that prevented you from healing them because you can't accept yourself.
RE ALGERON: 1. How will empathy work with pkok?
Empathy currently checks to see if you can fight the target of the spell.
With the next code update, we will be changing this to check that you can
fight them and that it is ok to heal them.
-Kaige
From: Siachet
Sunday, May 28, 08:46AM
Ok, I have been away while pkok was installed, and
I'm feeling completely lost here. How do you accept all
that somebody else is accpeting?
How do you know who they are accepting? How do you know if
they have a pkill timer on or not?
What are the general rules about pkill interference and
the penalties? I have looked at the help files, but there
isn't that much specific information about how this affects
the rules. Perhaps the rules have been changed too, but
it would be helpful from the point of view of somebody
who wasn't around when all this was discussed if there was
a specific list of changes relating to pkok put up rather than
just q & a - which seems to assume some existing
knowledge of the system in order to ask questions.
Just don't want it to turn into one of those things where
you have to have been around at the right time to be able
to know whats going on - which has happened with changes in
the past.
Sia
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