Posted by Fear on 03/21
ok, you guys are whining.
first of all, no char has the versatility of a
3c mage, period.
secondly, it's a sad day when you look around,
and nearly every dominating force is a 3c mage.
what you people fail to realize is that in
many years of playing here, I can only think
of one person to play a 3c mage the way they were
meant to be played, that being Skar.
mages aren't suppose to have high fight stats,
thier fight stat is mind, they already have so many options
they don't need to rip and damcap to be sucessful.
but now, we're so used to playing 3c mages "our"
way, because the code has let us, that we're
going to bitch and moan and complain?
lets look at meditate..
again and again I hear people wanting a 40 spirit req
on meditate. well tough, I say. at 40 spirit you are
giving up nothing for the privledge of rapid mana gain.
I think it should still be the old req, honestly.
chalices..
hmmm, maybe cut down the ratio that it gives you mana.
maybe in half, my mage used a chalice and meditate,
together thier just sickening. and in testing, I've
found that you get around the same mana in the same
amount of time, with the mind that I had.
anyway, pull out meditate, pull oput chalices, and
pull out the god damn shaman, I'
I'm tired of hearing you all whine that an obviously
overpowering char type isn't good enough.
-Fear
From: Sammael
Monday, March 20, 09:19PM
I'm not even going to justify your post with a response.
From: Poetry
Tuesday, March 21, 08:17AM
I dont think overpowered is the word. What I think is that a good
player would rather play a mage that has more options to get
creative with, rather than a fighter type that just headbutts headbutts
headbutts. I can at least speak for myself in that I would never make
a pure fighter type, simply cause their options are so limited.
Its all so the experienced player that could make a decent mage. Start
looking at the strength of mages that way, and then you could understand
their apparent "dominance" in pkill. Its really just the appeal of more
options, and more fun to experienced players.
Poetry
From: Fear
Tuesday, March 21, 10:31AM
ok Poetry, you do seem to make alot of sense,
and I feel your right, for the most part.
however, there is one small thing you overlook.
not everyone can pkill at the level of Poetry,
Sammael, Manticore, and a few others.
it simply shouldn't lean towards complete
dominance for the more experienced player, and
since backstab was downtoned, it has, in my
opinion.
now, maybe the imms are trying to change that.
maybe they want to see pure druids have a fighting
chance in pkill, who knows, who cares why
they do the things they do, I'm tired of
worrying about it.
when backstab was downgraded, snipers suffered. to
the point that they were nearly not worth playing.
people whined, people bitched, backstab still isn't the same.
when the xp scale came in, replacing the 100k dun mobs, etc.
people whined, people bitched, and it took a very long
time to get the scale to a nice medium.
changes take time, imms likely won't base
desisions on change based on a few fights between
poetry and sammael.. or change something because is
(it rather) makes you, and a few others, a worse char.
maybe I'm crazy, maybe I'm stupid. but I
think your all being quite selfish. I
don't hear non-pk whining that much about
meditate, face it, your desperate for any
stat point you can find, because for the first time,
you actually have a weakness in your char.
done for now.
From: Poetry
Tuesday, March 21, 11:23AM
I think it should lean towards complete dominance for the
experienced player.
I guarrentee you that if newbies can beat experienced players in
pkill consistantly enough, that the experienced player will get
frustrated and the randomness of it all, and leave.
"face it, your desparate for any stat point you can find, because
for the first time, you actually have a weakness in your char."
What are you talking about? meditate? Im more powerful than ever
because of the change to meditate. You know why? Because
chalices allow me to get the same regenning effect.. only while Im
running around.
Think about what you are asking for. Whining for a lower
meditate req, and no chalice will definately weaken us if anything.
Poetry
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