Posted by Poetry on 02/18
Im just wondering.. but if you have 2 characters... one with a 8kg
strength weapon at 100str 30dex 60con... and one with a
8kg dex weapon at 100dex 60con 30str.. and they fought with no
specials... would they do the same about of damage at the same ac?
Im just wondering if this was they way that the balanced system was
SUPPOSED to be working. I could take this a little further and give
the str character 50 damageroll and 20 hitroll.. and the dex character
50 hitroll and 20 damageroll.... would these come out even? Are they even
supposed to be even?
Im asking cause it seems that extra damageroll to a str fighter
does a lot more damage... and extra hitroll to str fighter makes them
hit ALOT more.. however... extra hitroll or damageroll to dex fighter only
seems to make minor changes. Maybe Im just getting confused cause
hitroll doesnt really matter on stunned people while damageroll seems to
really multilply on stunned...
And of course a lot of people with damageroll have sacrificed hitroll for
some sort of stunning attack that usually has other benefits too... (mana
or hps). I dunno, I do fine, but I still wonder about the damage that
people with low low hitroll seem to do. Makes me feel silly when Im
a full dex fighter and I hit less than some dude with 50 dex.
Just wondering,
Poetry.
From: Asterix
Monday, February 14, 06:55PM
Incidentally, did you read those appends on your last post?
From: Poetry
Monday, February 14, 08:46PM
I did, but somehow, nothing stands in my memory as useful
informations. No imms addressed it, and it seemed like a bunch
of players saying how they "think" works or it should work.
I guess Im wonder what the true word is.
Poetry
From: Lagmonster
Monday, February 14, 09:53PM
Personally tried Con weaponry, they do a LOT more damage a LOT
more consistantly under the same hit/dam circumstances than dex
or str, with an 8kg weapon. (I've never capped as consistently
with a str or dex weapon, regardless of weight, as much as it
seemed like a freak incident).
From: Splat
Monday, February 14, 10:25PM
The biggest factor is skills, with 47 hit and 19 dam, I decimate
about 1/8 rounds, the rest are pulverize, demolish, hit hard etc
This is in pk btw.. I'd like to know how much hitroll is required
to be equivelant to sitting or stunned, is that a 50% bonus?
Is there a damage bonus on top? This's also why I asked about
agg/wary to not reset when sitting as we lose a bunch of hitroll
when bashed.. Actually come to think of it my con mage with
less hitroll and just a couple more dam did a lot better damage
when sitting.. Perhaps there is a problem with dex weapons
after all.
From: Rufus
Tuesday, February 15, 04:22PM
I'm running a statistical test right now, I'll let you know how it goes.
I had to up the secondary stat (dex, str) to 40 so they could each wield
the 8kg weapon you mention.
-Ruf
From: Rufus
Tuesday, February 15, 05:33PM
Here's my results, the first set is done at:
STRENGTH: 100str, 40dex, 60 con
DEXTERITY: 40str, 100dex, 60 con
both have 8kg, 9maxdam weapons
the second set:
STRENGTH: 100str, 40dex, 60 con
DEXTERITY: 40str, 100dex, 60 con
dex weapon is 8kg 9max (best dex weapon)
str weapon is 17kg 18max (best str weapon)
STRENGTH: Avg: 34, High 67, low: 3, < 10: 14, > 50: 54, numtimes: 600
DEXTERITY: Avg: 40, High 66, low: 15, < 10: 0, > 50: 87, numtimes: 600
STRENGTH: Avg: 40, High 94, low: 0, < 10: 18, > 50: 64, numtimes: 300
DEXTERITY: Avg: 40, High 65, low: 20, < 10: 0, > 50: 38, numtimes: 300
Average is the average damage, high, the highest dam hit, low is the
lowest dam hit, < 10: - number of times damage was less than 10,
> 50: - number of times damage was over 50 points.
-Ruf
From: Lagmonster
Tuesday, February 15, 10:06PM
darn ruf, should've done a test for 100 con 40dex 40str too!
From: Raz
Friday, February 18, 10:22AM
Rufus-
I know this is all random, but the results seem real strange
for dex weapons. Can you explain why the number of
times dam was over 50 points was 87 times with the first
weapon and only 38 times with the second? It seems
that the dex weapon is identical (9 att 9 maxdam). Does
it have to do with any other factors? Such as parry, ac?
+Raz
From: Cheesy_Poofs
Friday, February 18, 02:27PM
It's probably because the first weapon he tested 600 times
Second only 300
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